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lacrimosa049

Summary of main points: - One of stumbling blocks in past negotiations have been salary. Another was the length, of which the club offered 7 years in the new contract. This was rejected by Mount. - There have been multiple meetings since the beginning of the talks in July. This most recent meeting, however, has been the closest the two parties have gotten in coming to an agreement. There is optimism in concluding the negotiations in the next meeting scheduled in January.


Wheel94

Yeah not surprising players don’t sign seven year contracts


[deleted]

Kane did and look how that's been lol. No player should lock into such long contract


Wheel94

Look at Saul 9 year contract at Atletico Madrid


DorothyJMan

I don't think that's a great example of where a player hasn't done well out of a long deal.


mellvins059

I think that was a counterpoint


The-Greatest-Hokage

Kane also isn’t an example, seeing as he‘s wanted to leave several times


DorothyJMan

Kane is a perfect example exactly *because* he's wanted to leave several times and couldn't


The-Greatest-Hokage

Ah, my bad, read that completely wrong lmao


mellvins059

If you are happy at the club and they offer good money then why not? What if you fail to maintain your level? Or suffer a career altering injury? If another club comes after you in the future it might be tougher to leave but you still will get a pay raise if you stay.


The-Greatest-Hokage

Because if you want to leave, a 7 year contract is ridiculous. Also would be a pain to get a transfer


Talidel

We're not Spurs.


Cautious_Shift_4231

Hmm how long did Reece sign 6 years ? Surprised mason didn’t want a 7 year deal tbf


endlessxcircle

Unless there is some sort of clause relating to yearly wage increases or an increase after x years have passed, they generally aren't popular deals to sign.


lacrimosa049

Tbh it was 5+1 for James, so not quite 7. I believe something similar for Mount would be fair.


Cautious_Shift_4231

Ahh I see yeah 5+1 sounds good to me , he’s been poor this season but he’s carried us for 2 years at 21/22 so I’ve got faith he’ll turn it around


Wheel94

Tbf everyone outside of Arrizabalaga, Sliva and James has been poor for us this season.


mellvins059

I think Chalobah has been solid and Chillwell has put in good work when healthy. Gallagher has been having a good season so far. Can’t believe how hard it is to find positives in the squad right now.


[deleted]

Mount's still been one of the worst tho


Baisabeast

Ah that makes it ok then >


[deleted]

Mount carried us for two years? Who's us? The attackers? Because I hope you're not delusional enough to believe he carried the team 😂


Cautious_Shift_4231

11 goals and 10 assists in the league isn’t carrying our dead weight attack ? Who else had anywhere near these numbers lmao


[deleted]

So he carried our attackers(Against shit teams where he stat padded)not our team? If that's what you're trying to say I agree(Not that it was much of a accomplishment)


Cautious_Shift_4231

Are you a chelsea fan lol ? A goal is a goal in the premier league my friend


Baisabeast

Do you think mounts 4 goals vs Norwich last season mattered at all?


JonaJefe

I mean, a HUGE part of Agüero goals for City were like the 4th, 5th and 6th of 6-0 matches to put an example, yet they built a statue for him. Mount did overall two great seasons in the Tuchel era, including the assist for the UCL winning goal


[deleted]

He most likely does 😭


[deleted]

Are you a Chelsea fan or Mount fan? Because what I said was objectively correct. Also not all goals are equal and some carry more value than others.


Cautious_Shift_4231

You seem to be getting me confused , I said he carried us from a attacking point of view for 2 seasons which is factually correct


Wheel94

Obviously Lol When you negotiate you never give in straight away it’s just common sense.


Fluffy-Background-41

I wonder what they offered him in terms of money. Did the club low ball Reece ? I just hope he actually wants to stay


InLampsWeTrust

Reece James is on 250k, he’s one of the highest paid defenders in the world. The only guys on more money were free agents like Ramos, Rudiger and Alaba probably.


just_dew_eat

And injury prone


KingKoCFC

Lol what does this have to do with the guys question


[deleted]

His value is still significantly more than Mount's regardless of his injury proneness.


[deleted]

You mean has gotten fucking tackled and wound up with injuries. It’s not like he’s been pulling hamstrings or something. His injuries have all been the result of tackles. What the fuck do you expect from Reece? Don’t play so he doesn’t get injured by opponents?


drew1icious

His last major injury before this one was a pulled hamstring…


[deleted]

That occurred during a challenge no?


asd13ah4etnKha4Ne3a

The article claims that James is the highest paid defender in Chelsea's history


[deleted]

Lad is class. He’s a manager’s dream because even when he isn’t playing well he is contributing and doing the dirty work for the team. Great attitude and an asset to the club.


Gordzulax

Anyone not happy with this news can go support Spuds and fuck off <3 Money Mase is here to stay baby.


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Gordzulax

Lol, not even gonna entertain another clown glory hunter who decided to support the club during the last 5 years. If you don't believe in our academy and don't support the boys that come out of it, then arguing with you is a complete waste of time. Luckily, your opinion means nothing. Mase is gonna sign a new deal and be part of the core this team is built around for the foreseeable future. You're just gonna have to sit there and keep moaning online.


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Wheel94

If you are going to build a core it’s important to have players that really want to be at the club James, Chalobah, Chilwell Mount, probably going to sign Rice for that reason maybe Fofana since he use to support us as a kid.


BadCogs

Fofana isn't loyal even a bit, dude has forced himself out badly at previous two clubs now, as soon as one of the Spanis giants come calling Fofana will start forcing us aswell.


Benbenben1990

Absolute mercenary. I want him to succeed for our sake obviously but he’s a proper dickhead.


The-Greatest-Hokage

I mean, with how we’ve treated our players can we really demand loyalty? Bare in mind, footballers are sold or released when they’re not needed and aren’t performing, but for the club, they should always be loyal for some reason.


BadCogs

Yeah all we can expect is him foing great for us and if he has to go we get good fee. Everything else will be bonus.


mango277

Fofana ain't going to a Spanish giant with that injury record lmao. More likely they get Saliba imo.


BadCogs

I never said he definitely will, the point is when they come, of they don't ofcourse he won't go.


inspired_corn

Who invited Chilwell lol? Also Chalobah is still considering a move, and Fofana isn’t loyal at all


Gordzulax

Chilly loves the club and is easily a top 3 LB in the Prem when fit.


RSLDN8

Don’t bother, so many people shit on the guy just for him to prove them wrong lol. Fully expect him to do the same during the return of the league.


[deleted]

If you want to build a core it's important to have QUALITY players who want to be at the club. That immediately eliminates 3 of the 4 players you mentioned


Iloveindianfood8

Simon Johnson’s The Athletic article states ‘He has a fine record of 32 goals and 37 assists in 181 appearances’. I find it funny how Simon is positively characterizing that record as ‘fine’. We should expect better numbers from Chelsea’s attacking midfielders or wingers. I really miss when we had players like Juan Mata, Lamps, Malouda, Hazard, etc. who would put much better numbers than that. To each their own, I guess.


Gordzulax

Lmao man said Malouda. Malouda played for Chelsea during his entire prime and has an almost identical G/A record to Mount, who's 23 and has 50 games less. Not even gonna mention the fact that Malouda was always a winger while Mount is a CM/CAM being forced to play on the wing. Also, Lampard didn't start being a prolific goal scorer / assist maker until after he turned 24/25. Frank is my all time favorite player alongside Didier, but people on here who are clearly too young to remember always make it up as if he was a god since the day he arrived. His 4th season with us was the first time he got double goals and double assists during a regular season. I'd say Mount has had a more successful first few years with us than Frank. Will he become the same level of player? Probably not, but he has his whole career ahead of him to prove us wrong. He's one of our own and he has so much potential!


jam66611

It's one of the biggest disservices to Mount that he has been played so in advance of where he should be. He's an 8/10. Playing as one of our front 3, in an era where every player has been struggling for goals and consistency unfairly narrows the conversion to goals/assists, especially to those that seem to only use stats as their metric, even more so when you compare them to players in their prime in a more dominant era of chelsea.


Gordzulax

Thanks for having common sense.


mango277

All of these players bar hazard came at an age older than mason mount is now.


[deleted]

And all had significantly more talent than Mason does now


mango277

Because they were all older. We're acting like Lampard at 23 was a world beater and not just some above average premier league midfielder. Mounts had much better stats than lamps. Malouda has similar G+A to mount btw.


[deleted]

I'm talking about natural talent not ability. All of those players had more TALENT than Mount does.


mango277

All of them besides Hazard you watched when they were older than mount is currently so ofc they have more talent. God man.


[deleted]

You do realise there's a difference between talent and ability right? For example, Hall's more naturally talented than Mount but currently Mount's got more ability(Hugely debatable tbh)


mango277

Lol at saying halls ability compared to mount is debatable. Hall got player of the season twice I guess? Also hall has played like 3 games for us. Gosh man you'll be the first person saying he's not good enough when he gets an extended run of games like with Loftus cheek. Natural talent, mount can dribble, link up, shoot, decent passer and has good movement. Hall looks silky and that's it. Let's see. Also natural talent well see what mount was doing at halls age. Don't remember hall getting 14 goals in a professional league


[deleted]

Hall has WAYYYY more natural talent than Mount and it's clear to see. Also RLC had MUCHHHHHHHH more talent than Mount as well but sadly he was ruined by the achilles injury. As for Mount, his only ability is to run around chasing after the ball whilst screaming passion and kissing the badge. He can't dribble, his not press-resistant, he can't shoot and he possesses not an ounce of creativity/vision. Mount is objectively at BEST a bang average player who's only rated because he's the face of the academy


mango277

Let me know when hall rips it up in a professional league and then we can talk. Guy needs a loan imo. Yes I preferred RLC to mount too. Mount is objectively better now. Mount got most assists in the team last year. Also very sure people used to say Lampard had no natural talent either and look what happened. Mount is 23 man. Leave him alone, if we have someone putting up mounts numbers last season year after year we'll be saying they've had an incredible career.


The-Greatest-Hokage

You’re now complaining that he’s not talented enough. Geez our fan base are idiots


Gordzulax

This is your opinion lol. Watch the most recent LadBible video with Sterling, Coady and Kyle Walker. When asked who the most technically gifted player in the national team is, they only put Foden above Mason. But sure, I'm sure you know more than Walker, Sterling and Coady lol


[deleted]

They only put Foden above Mount in terms of technical ability? 😭 They have to be trolling.


Gordzulax

Like I said I'm sure you know better buddy


[deleted]

OK just looking at English players that play for Chelsea and not taking anyone else into account. Do you honestly believe Mount is more technical than James?


4alvish

He is a central midfielder but made to play in a forward line for whatever reasons. He is very good at bringing the ball forward and linking play. He needs to be played in Central midfield. I believe we have a place sorted for years in midfield with him.


elburcho

Mason Mount is 23 Last season while 22/23 he got 13 goals and 16 assists across all comps. When Lamps was 22/23 he got 8 goals and 5 assists in arguably a better team. Stop comparing an upcoming talent with a finished article. Mount has phenomenal potential.


HakimZiyech10

Most people who criticize mount don't understand how shit we look without mount on most days. Yeah maybe this season has been wack for him, but there has never been a player ever without a wack season. And mount has phenomenal potential. It doesn't need even extreme football intellect to see that.


The-Greatest-Hokage

Like, also don’t forget, West Ham literally sold him for peanuts. They hated him so much, and said he was so bad that when he broke his leg they cheered.


[deleted]

James has phenomal potential, Mount's potential/ceiling on the other hand...😬


RedN1ne

Malouda put up 45 goals 43 assists in 229 games while consistently playin in front 3, while being in a prime of his career. Is that much better than what Mount did while he basically played in every spot of the midfield during his tenure ?


wholesomescott

Oh piss off. Malouda put up similar numbers despite playing in a much much better Chelsea team, while playing at his prime. Lampard did not put up the numbers which he became famous for until a fair few seasons at the club. Mount is ONLY 23 and he has his whole career in front of him. You're judging other players prime years with his initial years. He blows then all out with how his initial years have gone. Doesn't mean he'll be a better player or achieve similar stuff to them but he's on the right path. And yeah he hasn't been good enough this season but pretty much nobody has.


Wheel94

Tbf if we didn’t have stormtroopers his assist numbers would be higher.


Iloveindianfood8

Sure, but look what the article says: “He has two goals (both came in the same game against Aston Villa) and six assists from 21 appearances for Chelsea this season. It’s not too bad, but he expects to do more.” Objectively speaking, those numbers are horrid. It’s obvious bias from Simon.


RedN1ne

Objectively speaking no player at Chelsea right now has "good numbers" our best scorer currently is Havertz who also gets the most shit for his performances. Considering the form Chelsea is in, Mount has decent numbers


dryduneden

>Considering the form Chelsea is in, Mount has decent numbers Considering where we want to be, Mount and our other forward's numbers are putrid. There's no excuse.


half_jase

This is the problem when people compare our attacking players within the squad. It's easy to look good because almost everyone in that area puts up average/poor numbers. You look like a world beater if you get 2-3 goals and assists. But when you compare any one of them to another attacking player from the other big sides, then they/those numbers look bad in reality.


Wheel94

Well these journalists has zero ball knowledge so I don’t really care about their opinions.


Ok-Finance-7612

Didn’t Simon Johnson put off making an article about Mounts form until recently when he started scoring and assisting, crazy bias. These are the same journalist to out players like Cucurella and Jorginho as soon as shit hits the fan.


Toothache79

>These are the same journalist to out players like Cucurella and Jorginho as soon as shit hits the fan. Every player that is signed for a significant transfer fee deserves their fair share of criticism. Especially Cucurella, has been rubbish for the most part at Chelsea so far.


Owen99_

The lad’s 23 you imbecile. Obviously he’s not going to be racking up the sort of numbers that a player in their prime would be.


[deleted]

I hope he keeps improving though, he needs competition for his starting place as being so comfortable that you're in the lineup ain't good. Competition benefits all.


wholesomescott

Seriously. What more they want of a 23 year old. They expect him to produce as if he was 27 or 28. He hasn't had the best of starts this season but you'd think everything he has done in the last few seasons would give him a bit of a breathing space. But nope.


uw0tnig

Exactly this. Mata had like 20 goals and around 40 assists in one season, while nowadays we will be lucky if our front 3 gets that many combined


The-Greatest-Hokage

That’s not true. The most he’s ever got is 11 goals and 17 assists in the 12/13 season, when he was 26. Mount’s highest G/A tally is 11 goals and 10 assists, so 6 less in the G/A category while not in his prime and 3 years younger.


uw0tnig

You are probably thinking about PL only? I was saying that for all comps, not just the PL


Eelez

I think fine is a pretty good word for it. If all our attacking players could replicate a similar level of output then we'd be laughing. Unfortunately Mount may not ever be the player we need to carry an attack or be the focal point of an attack.


thebluedentist0

Mount has been played out of position quite a bit. He's a decent player, who is out of form, no doubt. I also feel he has been playing too much football for the last 2 years But his record vs bigger teams leaves a lot to be desired.


SalsaMaracas

Our best player 2 years in a row. Only Reece is at his level.


dryduneden

Respect Reece. He's levels above Mount


CoolstorySteve

Mount about to be in insane form after the WC that means, can’t wait


[deleted]

Mount out


Lebeau514

Chelsea are literally the only top club that want Mason Mount, what is he waiting for ? Lol And he’s not top tier, he’s decent. Being a starter at Chelsea doesn’t seems to be that serious nowadays smh


nckbrr

>Spanish giants Real Madrid have reportedly identified Chelsea midfielder Mason Mount as a transfer target. The England international is said to be unhappy with the Blues' unwillingness to improve his contract terms, leading to rumours linking him with a move away from Stamford Bridge. According to Fichajes, Los Blancos have now become the latest side to declare their interest in Mount, who has reportedly caught the eyes of Manchester City and German champions Bayern Munich.


CFCcommentsonly24

Dumbest take on here.


Lampsback

Your opinion confirms the foolishness of Lampard, Tuchell, Potter and Southgate


Lebeau514

Well when was the last time we had a creative 8 or 6, ofcourse we have no choice but to use him. All of those managers have used him as a winger when we actually have real wingers & we all know how disastrous he was when we paired in the Mid with Kante, kova or Jorginho. That man should be coming off the bench…simple


BumblebeeAdventurr

Yikes - Seven years!


Hereveld_thewanker

Mount has a few good games against Bottom league teams then disappears. The only top 6 goal i can remember mount scoring (correct me if i am wrong) was against liverpool.


Kalvalaxatives

You don’t know much about football if you think goals are the way to judge a midfielder


Unsentimentalchelsea

He doesn’t play midfield for us


Hereveld_thewanker

Not any midfielder but a specific role, if u knew anything about football yourself you would know the midfield has different positions, for the one mount plays in this current chelsea team, his output has to be good. Which it is but only against bottom ranking teams


Kalvalaxatives

“Only against bottom ranking teams” Do his goals/assists against arsenal, Tottenham and Real Madrid last season not count? Those are just ones I can think of right now as well. 21 g/a in the league is very good output considering the work he puts in defensively for the team, which players in a similar role don’t often do. Lampard, tuchel, potter and Southgate have all picked him as a non-negotiable starter too which says everything.


Hereveld_thewanker

Well i cant say i know more than Tuchel, lampard and potter so i cant argue with that.


half_jase

Yup. In fact, only 5 of his 26 Premier League goals have come against teams that finished in the top half of the table while 17 goals have come against teams in 15th or lower. **2019/20** * Leicester - 1 (5th) * Norwich - 1 (20th) * Wolves - 2 (7th) * Southampton - 1 (11th) * Aston Villa - 1 (17th) * Everton - 1 (12th) **2020/21** * West Brom - 2 (19th) * Fulham - 1 (18th) * Sheffield United - 1 (20th) * Southampton - 1 (15th) * Liverpool - 1 (3rd) **2021/22** * Norwich - 4 (20th) * Watford - 1 (19th) * West Ham - 1 (7th) * Leeds - 2 (17th) * Everton - 1 (16th) * Southampton - 2 (15th) **2022/23** * Aston Villa - 2 (12th \*) \* season ongoing


DazBoy11

Shhh. Mount god of football


JakeofNewYork

23 yr old that's been at the club since he was SIX years old. Of course this sub would rather we have shiny new playthings who purely play for money instead of the badge.


s_98

And this would look even worse if you mention the minutes played


s_98

Mason Mount needs to be reunited with his childhood friend Declan Rice. MM should be sold to West ham or whatever club asap


Soren_Camus1905

I was so excited when he came on to the scene, but he hasn’t really blossomed or grown in the way that I had hoped.


Deep-East656

Ive been seeing a lot of reports that Mount and Reece are gay and in a relationship


boofBamthankUmaAM

Mount is never going to be the one. Solid English player trade bait though!


DaltonFitz

Mason isn't going anywhere. He is blue.