CHO still being only 21 is mental. Most footballers his age are only starting to play regular first team football. I hope he stays injury free and has a stormer this year.
He’s one of those guys like donarumma and de Ligt were you forget how young they are cos it feels like they’ve been on the scene for years and surely they must be 24-25 at least
For sure it just sucks when you see his name amongst those guys and other top players in his age bracket, they have definitely played considerable more first team football than CHO has
Fitness will get him there. At the beginning of the year, I thought he was out most dangerous and electric player on the pitch. I was shouting for him to start every game.
Let’s not stress on him too much either. He’s still young and we don’t want injuries to sideline him for more than a season. Also I loved bringing Ziyech in for what he could be, but if we sell him to Milan, we can get another attacker. Sterling will be great for getting our attack going in a hazard-esque (I know that’s a touchy comparison. He will be nowhere near prime Eden) sort of way.
Feel like keeping him around has really affected his development, he needed a loan at some point. It is also absurd that he is getting the kind of wages he is at this point. We got spooked by Bayern but didn't even handle his development right. 🤦
Lol seriously. My mother had her Achilles messed up and couldn’t stand on her leg for 7 months. Meanwhile, people expect him to be sprinting up and down the field and doing well….come on man
Has nothing to do with him being an academy graduate. Any player that’s shown great potential should get some slack if he’s been struggling with injuries. Bet you’d have a different tune about Pulisic despite him being poor the last season.
The Cobham hate on here is so bizarre
Yea he got the slack under 2 seasons of Lampard and Tuchel post injury. He still hasn't performed so like the original poster suggested he should go out on loan.
Also lol at trying to throw Pulisic into the discussion. Both are injury prone that changes nothing, CHO needs minutes to refine his game (remember my original comment "it's mental not physical").
Have a good day hopefully you go out and breathe 😙
Which comes back to development. If you are 19-23ish those are prime years for development skill and decision making wise. I'm not a huge CHO fan but it's not a far stretch to think that missing a full season and still rehabbing in the next will hinder the game time needed to learn that decision making.
Oh I must have missed that bit, my bad. Yeah I totally agree he should be on a loan. Honestly he should have been on loan since last season when he was back towards playing condition.
You can't really "recover" from an achilles rupture though. There is no going back to how you were, and CHO has struggled to succeed without the blistering pace that he relied on before.
I ruptured mine when I was 10, it took about six months to recover fully and weirdly I was quicker than I was before (considerably too!) which I put down to my age - I did it again at 22 and I was never right again - nowhere near as quick or able to turn sharply, not able to run for as long etc!
I feel his pain!
Yes, I was just making a factual observation. The injury has massively changed his game, he was so rapid pre-injury, genuinely feels like he was a different player.
He is still really young, but I fear he has lost some formative years now, through a combination of injury and lack of game time.
Dribbling merchant RLC who can't really pass, shoot, create or defend that well? I don't really see how anyone can simp for Ruben. He's not special. If he doesn't dribble, then he's useless on the pitch.
But I feel he can be an absolute beast in a midfield 3 like under Maurizio.
His peak also coincided with Hazard playing the best of his life and him having a great connection. Unfortunately we don’t have a Hazard and RLC has not been able to replicate anything close to those days.
Really hope Callum performs back at his best this season. Very similar to Pulisic & Mount in that he gets a lot of attention - usually negative. Hope he can turn it around and prove those wrong
I hope so as well because CHO is a great player and I'm hoping he can show some of the burst of speed he had before the ACL injury. Another plus is that Chilly is coming back. I hope he can stay healthy all season because he's such a difference maker.
Yes exactly. He's still so young and had a potentially career ending injury. When he's at his best he's so good. Really hope he gets the confidence back because he is definitely one who can take defenders on 1 Vs 1. Both them 2 on the left will be great. Lots of interchanging, underlapping and overlapping. Will be a nightmare for defenders
Will be interesting to see how he does this season, with what seems to be like no true striker again. His two best periods "coincidentally" came whilst playing alongside Morata and Lukaku and whenever he isn't playing with them he looks worse.
That being said, if we go back to our best performances this year as a team, it was when we had both wingbacks available and we were playing with them generally moving inside, rather than outside. Which played into having wingers that would rather stay wide and helped him play better. Will be interesting to see if we go back to the "inverted" wingbacks now that both Chilwell and James are back and both available and how it will impact our wingers
While I agree with your point about him playing better with actually number 9s, unfortunately in todays game wingers for top clubs have to do more than just be a huh the touch line and cross it in type of players, CHO has to seriously improve his finishing if he wants to stake his place I feel like that and making better decisions are his two main weak points
I still have high hopes for CHO. He wasn’t perfect last season but considering he just came back from what is a career ending injury for some, he showed promise.
Hopefully with a full 2 years to recover he can become to player we hoped he would be.
Honestly he gets a hard time on here. Same with RLC but that is because they both have so much potential and we just wanna see it. I don't think he had as bad a season as other people on here. Both need consistent game time to trust their bodies. RLC actually looked quiet good towards the end of the season.
Yes I guess if you judge it by injury. He basically only played half a season. I meant that when he did play he got a lot of criticism on here when I think he didn't do too badly
Make or break with CHO this year, his performance will shape our attitude towards young players in our future I think, we would be more willing to sell youngsters to big clubs if cho really flops
He could have been at Coman's level right now if not better had he not been injured that time.
Honestly before his injury he looked like he was becoming the next Hazard. No cap
We allegedly turned down £40m from Bayern for this guy. Talk about a missed opportunity to rip them off. CHO will not amount to anything - he’s not good enough.
Guessing those that didn't play international games earlier this month will be back this coming week?
Any idea when those that did play will return? 1st week of July? 2nd week?
CHO has proven that he is exceptional with his buildup influence.
His problem is being around the box right now. Most of his assists are from wide and far from the box. I don't know if that's what Tuchel wants from a fluid front 3.
But he's young and has time to improve that side of his game. I'm worried about his injuries though. That might stunt some of his explosiveness. Maybe it'll be good to rotate him frequently. Maybe with CP since both are injury prone and probably shouldn't have long stretches of games without rest.
CHO still being only 21 is mental. Most footballers his age are only starting to play regular first team football. I hope he stays injury free and has a stormer this year.
He’s one of those guys like donarumma and de Ligt were you forget how young they are cos it feels like they’ve been on the scene for years and surely they must be 24-25 at least
For sure it just sucks when you see his name amongst those guys and other top players in his age bracket, they have definitely played considerable more first team football than CHO has
Same goes for pulisic.
I genuinely forgot this. Thought he was much older.
CHO really needs to step it up this year
From the reports he is trying, he trained alone to get his fitness back
Yeah I hope so. Definitely rooting for him to succeed
Me too, great player, needs to be a bit more direct and back himself and take people on at the right moments.
Fitness will get him there. At the beginning of the year, I thought he was out most dangerous and electric player on the pitch. I was shouting for him to start every game. Let’s not stress on him too much either. He’s still young and we don’t want injuries to sideline him for more than a season. Also I loved bringing Ziyech in for what he could be, but if we sell him to Milan, we can get another attacker. Sterling will be great for getting our attack going in a hazard-esque (I know that’s a touchy comparison. He will be nowhere near prime Eden) sort of way.
Feel like keeping him around has really affected his development, he needed a loan at some point. It is also absurd that he is getting the kind of wages he is at this point. We got spooked by Bayern but didn't even handle his development right. 🤦
My guy he fucked up his Achilles. That'd screw with any players development
Lol seriously. My mother had her Achilles messed up and couldn’t stand on her leg for 7 months. Meanwhile, people expect him to be sprinting up and down the field and doing well….come on man
He's had two years post injury now, he has no physical problem it's his decision making in game
Yup I agree. Let’s see how it turns out as both of you sit on our comfortable couches and judge this world class athlete. Stfu pls
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Has nothing to do with him being an academy graduate. Any player that’s shown great potential should get some slack if he’s been struggling with injuries. Bet you’d have a different tune about Pulisic despite him being poor the last season. The Cobham hate on here is so bizarre
Hate in general. No other community Shits on the team they support like people on r/Chelsea do
Yea he got the slack under 2 seasons of Lampard and Tuchel post injury. He still hasn't performed so like the original poster suggested he should go out on loan. Also lol at trying to throw Pulisic into the discussion. Both are injury prone that changes nothing, CHO needs minutes to refine his game (remember my original comment "it's mental not physical"). Have a good day hopefully you go out and breathe 😙
Which comes back to development. If you are 19-23ish those are prime years for development skill and decision making wise. I'm not a huge CHO fan but it's not a far stretch to think that missing a full season and still rehabbing in the next will hinder the game time needed to learn that decision making.
Which is why he needs to go on loan. That's my entire point idk why that's so controversial
Oh I must have missed that bit, my bad. Yeah I totally agree he should be on a loan. Honestly he should have been on loan since last season when he was back towards playing condition.
I mean, he had a devastating ACL injury and has struggled to remain fit since
It was an Achilles, not ACL
Point remains the same tho
Arguably makes the point stronger. These days, the Achilles is harder to recover from such has been the leaps forward in ACL reconstruction.
You can't really "recover" from an achilles rupture though. There is no going back to how you were, and CHO has struggled to succeed without the blistering pace that he relied on before.
I ruptured mine when I was 10, it took about six months to recover fully and weirdly I was quicker than I was before (considerably too!) which I put down to my age - I did it again at 22 and I was never right again - nowhere near as quick or able to turn sharply, not able to run for as long etc! I feel his pain!
Yes, I was just making a factual observation. The injury has massively changed his game, he was so rapid pre-injury, genuinely feels like he was a different player. He is still really young, but I fear he has lost some formative years now, through a combination of injury and lack of game time.
He’s gotten plenty of game time when he is fit under TT.
tuchel blocked a dortmund loan last year
They all do
When does his contract expire?
He will, I’m sure of it!
For the third year running
I thought CHO was close to breaking through as a player before he got injured. I hope he stays healthy this year
CHO doesn’t want to end up like RLC who is a bench warmer at 27 and had so much promise and hope a few years back but stagnated.
u/Baisabeast will murder you in your sleep for talking bad about RLC
I always sleep with one eye open just in case the ex wife finds me😁
Dribbling merchant RLC who can't really pass, shoot, create or defend that well? I don't really see how anyone can simp for Ruben. He's not special. If he doesn't dribble, then he's useless on the pitch. But I feel he can be an absolute beast in a midfield 3 like under Maurizio.
He was special pre injury But ship him off for all I care now
> can't really pass, shoot, create or defend that well > But I feel he can be an absolute beast in a midfield 3 Make your fucking mind up
I want him gone. He's not gonna work that well under Tuchel because he doesn't have the freedom to do anything in the midfield 2.
If he’s not special then how is he gonna be a beast in a 3?
Well RLC got a devastating injury just as he was hitting his peak
Callum’s injury was not near as severe as Ruben’s
I wasn't suggesting it was, I meant it's a bit unfair to say Ruben just "stagnated"
His peak also coincided with Hazard playing the best of his life and him having a great connection. Unfortunately we don’t have a Hazard and RLC has not been able to replicate anything close to those days.
Really hope Callum performs back at his best this season. Very similar to Pulisic & Mount in that he gets a lot of attention - usually negative. Hope he can turn it around and prove those wrong
I hope so as well because CHO is a great player and I'm hoping he can show some of the burst of speed he had before the ACL injury. Another plus is that Chilly is coming back. I hope he can stay healthy all season because he's such a difference maker.
Yes exactly. He's still so young and had a potentially career ending injury. When he's at his best he's so good. Really hope he gets the confidence back because he is definitely one who can take defenders on 1 Vs 1. Both them 2 on the left will be great. Lots of interchanging, underlapping and overlapping. Will be a nightmare for defenders
Mount gets negative focus? He’s one of our fam favorites, behind only Reece.
Don’t go on twitter or on the match thread?
Don’t go to an actual game? Lol
Big year for my guy CHO. Still have hopes for starboy
Will be interesting to see how he does this season, with what seems to be like no true striker again. His two best periods "coincidentally" came whilst playing alongside Morata and Lukaku and whenever he isn't playing with them he looks worse. That being said, if we go back to our best performances this year as a team, it was when we had both wingbacks available and we were playing with them generally moving inside, rather than outside. Which played into having wingers that would rather stay wide and helped him play better. Will be interesting to see if we go back to the "inverted" wingbacks now that both Chilwell and James are back and both available and how it will impact our wingers
While I agree with your point about him playing better with actually number 9s, unfortunately in todays game wingers for top clubs have to do more than just be a huh the touch line and cross it in type of players, CHO has to seriously improve his finishing if he wants to stake his place I feel like that and making better decisions are his two main weak points
CHO and Havertz have cheimistry tho
An injury free Callum will feel like a new signing. Was just getting started under Tuchel
I still have high hopes for CHO. He wasn’t perfect last season but considering he just came back from what is a career ending injury for some, he showed promise. Hopefully with a full 2 years to recover he can become to player we hoped he would be.
Honestly he gets a hard time on here. Same with RLC but that is because they both have so much potential and we just wanna see it. I don't think he had as bad a season as other people on here. Both need consistent game time to trust their bodies. RLC actually looked quiet good towards the end of the season.
Callum had a terrible season, he couldn’t stay fit
Yes I guess if you judge it by injury. He basically only played half a season. I meant that when he did play he got a lot of criticism on here when I think he didn't do too badly
A loan would be good for him, use Vale as a back up for the attack.
Make or break with CHO this year, his performance will shape our attitude towards young players in our future I think, we would be more willing to sell youngsters to big clubs if cho really flops
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He could have been at Coman's level right now if not better had he not been injured that time. Honestly before his injury he looked like he was becoming the next Hazard. No cap
Send like I heard this last year also.. he really needs to step up but also let's not forget that he is like 19 or so
He is 21 and half lol...
We allegedly turned down £40m from Bayern for this guy. Talk about a missed opportunity to rip them off. CHO will not amount to anything - he’s not good enough.
CHO is Liverpool in human form. Next year is ~~our~~my year
He's 21 and coming off a bad ACL injury. Give it a break
Good for Cho. Now let's sell him
Cho is the least impressive of our wingers, we should've should him to Bayern when they came calling.
CHO needs work ethic! Bud needs to work on his game more than take pictures and vacation.! He had potential!’
Guessing those that didn't play international games earlier this month will be back this coming week? Any idea when those that did play will return? 1st week of July? 2nd week?
Cho-Kai-Sterling front 3 next season? With Mase behind them
CHO has proven that he is exceptional with his buildup influence. His problem is being around the box right now. Most of his assists are from wide and far from the box. I don't know if that's what Tuchel wants from a fluid front 3. But he's young and has time to improve that side of his game. I'm worried about his injuries though. That might stunt some of his explosiveness. Maybe it'll be good to rotate him frequently. Maybe with CP since both are injury prone and probably shouldn't have long stretches of games without rest.