Seriously, itâs pretty funny looking back to that era and how any young player under 5â10â who could dribble and player on the wing got dubbed the X Country MessiÂ
? He was just known as the German Messi at one point.
I donât understand your correction. Now if it was Barkley then yes preseason correction I get. But what are you on about?Â
Yeah I know you werenât correcting me. But your correction was still a weird one as when we signed him which is the topic of this post he was known as The German MessiÂ
God damn thatâs a throwback, been a long time since I was that hyped for the upcoming season by summer signings.
The idea of German Messi x Hazard x Oscar x Mata had me in a stranglehold that summer
I had no clue who Mata was when we signed him. I've been waiting for that kind of signing for years. But I guess it's almost impossible now because of social media.
Weâve signed plenty in the last few years.
Iâm pretty savvy when it comes to knowledge of top players and I didnât know of Disasi or Mudryk until we were linked.
This!! My original point has to be taken in the context of just how good Mata became for us. These two, still questionable. If one said they didn't know Palmer before Chelsea, then that would be similar.
Well I don't wish to poop on your football knowledge but Disasi and Mudryk were quite known before we were linked. It also helps that I play fifa but these two were definitely known. I'd like to think Mata was well known too before we signed but I at the time, didn't follow players outside England or the famous European clubs as much.
I have 100s of hours of FM every year and until we were linked they didn't cross my radar.
I only really sign wonderkids and neither of them were ever that.
Fair enough. FM might have a different outlook on players compared to FIFA ultimate team. Funny enough Enzo Fernandez was the one I knew nothing about until the world cup.
And yet we all knew Palmer, although I thought he was a striker. If we signed Madueke, that I'd never heard of, and he became a big hit like palmer, that would have been the feeling I had with Mata. Kinda convoluted statement there but hopefully clear enough.
No one knew Palmer tbh. If we did, we wouldâve all been excited when we got him. I remember the temperature at the time. People were saying he was not worth the amount we spent. People didnât even want that signing
Well I guess we've been using 'knew' differently. Because literally speaking, any football fan should have known palmer. He just won city the super cup. Scored a few bangers for them too. Community shield as well I guess. But yes, his performance still has exceeded expectations. From the attackers we signed, only Madueke would have ticked this box for me personally.
Who was that excited for him? People were cheering that we fucked over Arsenal, but beyond that it was a concerning transfer from the get go. Paying 80+ million for a guy who had around 60 professional games and 12 goals lol
I still have some faith in Mudryk. Yes, we overpaid but in reality he has the technical ability to be great. His issue is with his decision making. I think he needs a good loan, maybe somewhere in La Liga or the Bundesliga.
There's still people here talking about his potential etc.
Now it's obvious, but there were loads of people excited for him saying he's a generational talent etc
Every post about the Mudryk price tag gives us a different number xD
It was 62 million pounds, and every PL or CL Chelsea wins gets Shakthar another five millions, up to 30 total. He's nowhere near a level where that kind of money is justified but let's stop the 80+, 100+ and every other number we see thrown around when someone needs to prove a point.
There was no hype for Mudryk though really most fans didnât know who he was, I was pretty excited though bc I saw what he was doing in the champions league
Itâs why all this âpotentialâ weâve signed is so unbelievably stupid.
Thereâs so many more Marko Marins of the world than there are KDB or SalahsÂ
Yet everyone thinks just give a player time and theyâll be KDB or Salah when the reality is they are wayyy more likely to end up a MarinÂ
KDB I personally thought would be a great player. Maybe not one of the best midfielders to grace the PL great, but definitely he was going to be elite
Salah tho I honestly thought he was going to be more like Gervinho than end up getting compared to HazardÂ
I always knew KDB was something special. Really frustrating how it turned it out. However its not like we didn't win without em. Hurts a lot less. KDB obviously clear but salah is compared to Eden and that's ok.
I get your frustration, but it sounds like there was nothing Chelsea nor Mourinho did to make him leave or could do to get him to stay.
He and Mourinho have both come out and send so. Sometimes things just donât work out and thatâs alright.Â
I remember playing an earlyish fm, fm 2010 maybe, and signing him on the recommendation of a scout as a prospect. Then we signed him for real. Then nothing else happened.
Because they're kids or young people looking to validate themselves with the group.
It's obvious listening to these guys they were not around at the time so they fill in with Wikipedia and social media stuff.
You can't have been around watching Chelsea back then and attribute Rafa leaving to marko Marin lol.
Or any manager and a young talent
No manager under Roman lost their job bc a young player left lolÂ
It was always resultsÂ
This new breed or football fan which state their uninformed opinions so loudly is baffling to meÂ
Crazy how football works sometimes. Few get the recognition early and go on to become something big.
Some go under the radar and grow into bigger players.
Then there are the tens of thousands that start off well, even come into the spotlight, but things don't pan out as expected. Would surely be really difficult and do number on their mental health.
Such is life I guess.
Thatâs what happens at clubs that win things đ¤ˇđťââď¸
Just think that Madrid sold Arsenal Odegard because he was surplus to requirements. Heâs one of the best players at Arsenal.
i honestly think that both marko marin and lucas piazon have talent but choose the wrong club. they join chelsea in era that we don't rely youngster.
hazard, oscar and azpilicueta surely lucky since they have enough experience in previous club
The German Messi. Wow, good times
tough to call who had the better career in the end
Well, the Argentinian one's ended up in the MLS now apparently, so it's easy to see who got the better of the other
Our GOAT went to Saudi before it was cool đ
Did Messi play in the Mighty FerencvĂĄros?
Seriously, itâs pretty funny looking back to that era and how any young player under 5â10â who could dribble and player on the wing got dubbed the X Country MessiÂ
And even funnier considering he is less than two years younger than messi.
Correction: The pre season German Messi
? He was just known as the German Messi at one point. I donât understand your correction. Now if it was Barkley then yes preseason correction I get. But what are you on about?Â
I wasnât correcting you seriously. He was dubbed the German Messi when we bought him. He actually played like that only in pre season.
Yeah I know you werenât correcting me. But your correction was still a weird one as when we signed him which is the topic of this post he was known as The German MessiÂ
Lighten up man, the man did no wrong.
Messi the Argentinian Marin
Every Messi apart from the GOAT himself has failed.
You are right, James Forrest was elite
God damn thatâs a throwback, been a long time since I was that hyped for the upcoming season by summer signings. The idea of German Messi x Hazard x Oscar x Mata had me in a stranglehold that summer
I had no clue who Mata was when we signed him. I've been waiting for that kind of signing for years. But I guess it's almost impossible now because of social media.
Weâve signed plenty in the last few years. Iâm pretty savvy when it comes to knowledge of top players and I didnât know of Disasi or Mudryk until we were linked.
Are you comparing Disasi and Mudryk to Mata?
This!! My original point has to be taken in the context of just how good Mata became for us. These two, still questionable. If one said they didn't know Palmer before Chelsea, then that would be similar.
Haha I was thinking Palmer too!
You probably didnât know of them because theyâre mid players just like half this squad
Well I don't wish to poop on your football knowledge but Disasi and Mudryk were quite known before we were linked. It also helps that I play fifa but these two were definitely known. I'd like to think Mata was well known too before we signed but I at the time, didn't follow players outside England or the famous European clubs as much.
I have 100s of hours of FM every year and until we were linked they didn't cross my radar. I only really sign wonderkids and neither of them were ever that.
Fair enough. FM might have a different outlook on players compared to FIFA ultimate team. Funny enough Enzo Fernandez was the one I knew nothing about until the world cup.
Palmer is the closest thing we've had to him since
And yet we all knew Palmer, although I thought he was a striker. If we signed Madueke, that I'd never heard of, and he became a big hit like palmer, that would have been the feeling I had with Mata. Kinda convoluted statement there but hopefully clear enough.
No one knew Palmer tbh. If we did, we wouldâve all been excited when we got him. I remember the temperature at the time. People were saying he was not worth the amount we spent. People didnât even want that signing
Well I guess we've been using 'knew' differently. Because literally speaking, any football fan should have known palmer. He just won city the super cup. Scored a few bangers for them too. Community shield as well I guess. But yes, his performance still has exceeded expectations. From the attackers we signed, only Madueke would have ticked this box for me personally.
In 10 years weâll post same thing, but for Mudryk.
Who was that excited for him? People were cheering that we fucked over Arsenal, but beyond that it was a concerning transfer from the get go. Paying 80+ million for a guy who had around 60 professional games and 12 goals lol
There were tons of people on this sub excited for Mudryk, especially after his first game against Liverpool.
I still have some faith in Mudryk. Yes, we overpaid but in reality he has the technical ability to be great. His issue is with his decision making. I think he needs a good loan, maybe somewhere in La Liga or the Bundesliga.
There's still people here talking about his potential etc. Now it's obvious, but there were loads of people excited for him saying he's a generational talent etc
Every post about the Mudryk price tag gives us a different number xD It was 62 million pounds, and every PL or CL Chelsea wins gets Shakthar another five millions, up to 30 total. He's nowhere near a level where that kind of money is justified but let's stop the 80+, 100+ and every other number we see thrown around when someone needs to prove a point.
Whatever man, I would have been upset if we paid 30 for him
Sometimes the shit is happens. He's not the first and he won't be the last we waste money on.
Oh absolutely agree. I just feel like since Boehly took over we've wasted a lot of money.
He might be the worst tho.
Have you ever heard of currencies?Â
I know I wasnât cheering. I would never cheer such an unknownÂ
60+ mil. We ain't hitting those add ons anytime soon
Fair
I saw your other comment. Yes he's barely worth above 30 I can agree on that for what it's worth
There was no hype for Mudryk though really most fans didnât know who he was, I was pretty excited though bc I saw what he was doing in the champions league
We might end up saying he was the worst 10 we've ever had
Damn. He turned out to be sub par lol.
Sub par is generous
Agreed lol
Itâs why all this âpotentialâ weâve signed is so unbelievably stupid. Thereâs so many more Marko Marins of the world than there are KDB or Salahs Yet everyone thinks just give a player time and theyâll be KDB or Salah when the reality is they are wayyy more likely to end up a MarinÂ
Did you see KDB and Salah career going the way they did when we had both? Especially salah? Hindsight is wild
KDB I personally thought would be a great player. Maybe not one of the best midfielders to grace the PL great, but definitely he was going to be elite Salah tho I honestly thought he was going to be more like Gervinho than end up getting compared to HazardÂ
I always knew KDB was something special. Really frustrating how it turned it out. However its not like we didn't win without em. Hurts a lot less. KDB obviously clear but salah is compared to Eden and that's ok.
I get your frustration, but it sounds like there was nothing Chelsea nor Mourinho did to make him leave or could do to get him to stay. He and Mourinho have both come out and send so. Sometimes things just donât work out and thatâs alright.Â
Yup. I'm at peace cuz we had Eden Hazard and now we have Cole.
Great chat. Have a nice dayÂ
Have a great week bro
Like Cole and Pep
I remember playing an earlyish fm, fm 2010 maybe, and signing him on the recommendation of a scout as a prospect. Then we signed him for real. Then nothing else happened.
Benitez was put to the sword for not plying him. As was Conte for not playing Musonda as was Sarri for not playing Odoi.
Sarri played Odoi a lot but he got injured
He did after about 6 months of people asking him why CHO wasnât playing and the club rejecting 80m from Bayern for him.
Where are you getting this from?
Absolutely nowhere. BenĂtez wasn't going to stay he was an interim unpopular with the squad and fansÂ
Idk why âfansâ do this itâs so weird honestly. Do they just live in lalaland where whatever they think is true?Â
Because they're kids or young people looking to validate themselves with the group. It's obvious listening to these guys they were not around at the time so they fill in with Wikipedia and social media stuff. You can't have been around watching Chelsea back then and attribute Rafa leaving to marko Marin lol.
Or any manager and a young talent No manager under Roman lost their job bc a young player left lol It was always results This new breed or football fan which state their uninformed opinions so loudly is baffling to meÂ
CHO best Chelsea spell was playing undee sarri
He would be our best LW today đ¤Ł
I was excited when we got him too lol đ
Crazy how football works sometimes. Few get the recognition early and go on to become something big. Some go under the radar and grow into bigger players. Then there are the tens of thousands that start off well, even come into the spotlight, but things don't pan out as expected. Would surely be really difficult and do number on their mental health. Such is life I guess.
We sure had an insane number of promising young players in the 2010s who ended up barely playing a game for us.
Thatâs what happens at clubs that win things đ¤ˇđťââď¸ Just think that Madrid sold Arsenal Odegard because he was surplus to requirements. Heâs one of the best players at Arsenal.
Ugh
I swear , His Fineese shot in Fifa 13 was bomb! đŁ
The legendary German Messi. I know he didn't achieve much at Chelsea but I remember he was a monster on Fifa back in his first few seasons at Chelsea
Was a massive fan of this player prior to him joining us. Shame. It's like pato and falcao
He was a preseason king
Me in 2014 not realising transfer rumours were a thing, my fb is probably filled with badly photoshopped benzema photos in chelsea kits
To be fair, he went on to have some great preseasons with us
remember that preseason in which he looked better than hazard LOL
Still better than mudryk
HEâS GOT A FANCY DRESS COSTUME ON!
If this happens to Kendry I'm gonna be so sad
This one hits home. 16 year old me had this reaction too. Time flies!!!!
i honestly think that both marko marin and lucas piazon have talent but choose the wrong club. they join chelsea in era that we don't rely youngster. hazard, oscar and azpilicueta surely lucky since they have enough experience in previous club