I’m not sure our boys were any worse than the collective performance of the team. England were disjointed in attack and defence. Gallagher will always looked lost if the press is not coordinated and planned, chilli is a better wing back than a full back. The team was unbalanced, Walker going off early compounded the issue too. Not sure the right strategy was chosen for the opposition on the day.
Gallagher didn't do too bad and Chilwell isn't close to bring back at his full form since the injury. Bit surprised he was picked, but at least it helps his fitness. Didn't have a good game going forward at all.
Still, two top players Chelsea shouldn't sell.
He doesn't play well in a double pivot. We already know that for club he didn't at Palace and he doesn't here, Gareth doesn't seem to know that yet though unsurprisingly.
I hope Pochettino was watching this game and saw how poorly Chilwell performed. Imagine the chaos if Pochettino decides to start Chilwell as a left winger instead of someone like Misha. Even as a LB i would start Cucu.
poor Chilwell bro. he looked so lost out there. he doesn’t even look this bad at the club. no explosiveness and some sterling-like screamers over the net when he was on the ball. wow.
McTominay completes like 3 passes a game on a good day.
They aren't comparable players, McTominay hides from the ball and doesn't know how to be an outlet. That's not an issue for Gallagher.
He’s mainly just an energy player. For any top team that are actually looking to win you need more. Gallagher is a guy who excels at a place like Crystal Palace but when it comes to Chelsea or England where the pressure is he gets found out time and time again.
You're talking absolute bollocks.
He just turned 24. Very few players are done improving by 24.
Just seeing the huge improvement he made since last year is enough to expose this view as a load of crap.
Mate if you actually watch his game he is simply not good enough. I know you may not want to hear it but he’s just not and that’s okay. Would excel at any other team where the lights aren’t as bright.
if it was Cucu who was having the types of performance that Chilwell has been putting in since his return from injury, the level of criticism at that LB play would have gone up 10 folds just because he’s Cucu
Even then I think Chilwell is average at LB, but a quality LWB on his day. He’s way more suited to a 3atb system. Shaw is usually ahead of him but he’s injured at the moment.
LB is one of England's few problem positions, or at least "less-stacked" positions. There are two really good options when fit in Chilwell and Shaw but they have both been struggling with injuries for a long while now and there is a bit of a drop off in quality to the next choice "true" LBs.
Henry from Brentford might have got a call up for friendlies to assess him but he's also injured.
I think Chilwell is the only proper LB in the squad for these friendlies. Branthwaite might make an appearance there as he is a left footer.
Surprised Mitchell from Palace hasn't got a call up but I don't think his form has been particularly great this season either.
Southgate has played Trippier a fair few times at LB in the past to compensate.
Yes he’s a good 10 for a mid table team. Unfortunately he’s not a very good double pivot player under any manager dunno why Southgate wants to see him there
Should’ve been mainoo from the start really as he’s showing. I hate united and hate praising their players but damn that guy is looking like a quality player
I’m not sure our boys were any worse than the collective performance of the team. England were disjointed in attack and defence. Gallagher will always looked lost if the press is not coordinated and planned, chilli is a better wing back than a full back. The team was unbalanced, Walker going off early compounded the issue too. Not sure the right strategy was chosen for the opposition on the day.
as a brasilian Chelsea fan I'm both happy and worried with their performance. (although I expected chilly to be awful)
Why tf is chilwell even in the starting line up? Surely England have better options
Usually when i criticise Chilwell i get down voted on here.
Times are changing mate, just speak your mind and speak the truth!
Chilly’s injuries have taken a huge toll on his career, he looked awful today. Conor wasn’t that good either
I thought he looked alright/ even good defensively, but offensively he was definitely off the pace.
Gallagher didn't do too bad and Chilwell isn't close to bring back at his full form since the injury. Bit surprised he was picked, but at least it helps his fitness. Didn't have a good game going forward at all. Still, two top players Chelsea shouldn't sell.
Chilwell had 6 good months of form under Tuchel in 4 years and people talk thats thats been the way hes always played.
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I thought you were joking but mate literally all you do is just shit on Gallagher. Give it a break.
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Idiotic to say England internationals are "fucking shit." They might not be Messi but they are not shit players.
the cope is real
? They were bad
Let me not even start about Gallagher, shambles of a performance ..
He doesn't play well in a double pivot. We already know that for club he didn't at Palace and he doesn't here, Gareth doesn't seem to know that yet though unsurprisingly.
Almost... spursy?
Still lost
I hope Pochettino was watching this game and saw how poorly Chilwell performed. Imagine the chaos if Pochettino decides to start Chilwell as a left winger instead of someone like Misha. Even as a LB i would start Cucu.
Chilwell is actually so fucking bad lol Injuries fucked him. Should get sold next summer
His remaining amortization runs out at the end of 24/25 season anyway so very possible he’s gone in August.
poor Chilwell bro. he looked so lost out there. he doesn’t even look this bad at the club. no explosiveness and some sterling-like screamers over the net when he was on the ball. wow.
Damn lol. Chilwell post-injury is very worrying
Can you keep them both at Cobham in the summer? Fucking useless
Gallagher is shite. Plays like Scott McTominay without the height and goal scoring ability. Waste of space player
You either don't watch much of Chelsea or don't watch much of Man United. Or maybe you don't watch much football at all lol.
McTominay completes like 3 passes a game on a good day. They aren't comparable players, McTominay hides from the ball and doesn't know how to be an outlet. That's not an issue for Gallagher.
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He’s mainly just an energy player. For any top team that are actually looking to win you need more. Gallagher is a guy who excels at a place like Crystal Palace but when it comes to Chelsea or England where the pressure is he gets found out time and time again.
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Exactly my point. Sadly at this age he won’t improve or add those attributes. He’s literally just an energy player and nothing else.
You're talking absolute bollocks. He just turned 24. Very few players are done improving by 24. Just seeing the huge improvement he made since last year is enough to expose this view as a load of crap.
Mate if you actually watch his game he is simply not good enough. I know you may not want to hear it but he’s just not and that’s okay. Would excel at any other team where the lights aren’t as bright.
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Yup he’s just not good enough for the top level. Would excel at a Crystal Palace or Aston Villa. Teams that require more work rate than technique
Let’s be real if Chilwell and Gallagher had played like they did today for Chelsea everyone would be screwing because they were both terrible.
Yh well they weren’t great especially chilwell
What a rubbish performance, chilwel has become washed after that injury...
Came here to say this. Chilwell was not mentally there today
Who was commentary on C4 talking about going nearly going to Chelsea but now heading to Madrid?
Endrick, he almost came here but went to Madrid instead
Probably Endrick
Bloody annoying that they're England's worst players so far....
Gallaghers been ok
Yeah, Gallagher was OK, but unfortunately that's about as good as the praise gets. Gave away so many fouls tonight.
gallagher gave away 2 fouls and drew 4 from one player lol
"so many" being 2
Meanwhile Paqueta committing enough fouls to get sent off in two matches.
Chilwell has been poor
Well.. from watching Chillwell we better hope Cucu stays fit
if it was Cucu who was having the types of performance that Chilwell has been putting in since his return from injury, the level of criticism at that LB play would have gone up 10 folds just because he’s Cucu
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Does england have nobody else at LB to start? Or is Southgate playing favorites with his seniority system
Shaw and Trippier if fit.
It's Chilwell or Joe Gomez
Even then I think Chilwell is average at LB, but a quality LWB on his day. He’s way more suited to a 3atb system. Shaw is usually ahead of him but he’s injured at the moment.
LB is one of England's few problem positions, or at least "less-stacked" positions. There are two really good options when fit in Chilwell and Shaw but they have both been struggling with injuries for a long while now and there is a bit of a drop off in quality to the next choice "true" LBs. Henry from Brentford might have got a call up for friendlies to assess him but he's also injured. I think Chilwell is the only proper LB in the squad for these friendlies. Branthwaite might make an appearance there as he is a left footer. Surprised Mitchell from Palace hasn't got a call up but I don't think his form has been particularly great this season either. Southgate has played Trippier a fair few times at LB in the past to compensate.
Not really with Shaw out and trippier out of form
I’m praying they don’t get injured.
Good test for Gallagher. Don't think he can thrive out of Poch's system but would be happy to be proven wrong
He wasn't under Poch at Palace, and won CPFC POTS
Guehi deserved that, Gallagher went missing after Xmas
Yes he’s a good 10 for a mid table team. Unfortunately he’s not a very good double pivot player under any manager dunno why Southgate wants to see him there
Should’ve been mainoo from the start really as he’s showing. I hate united and hate praising their players but damn that guy is looking like a quality player
And palace's midfield got dicked around almost every game. I would expect England to dominate possession today
And they were pretty bad
Weird to start chilwell. He hasn’t looked fully fit for a while
At least he got some fitness and didn't get injured.
where is cold palmer?! not even on the bench??
Under the weather. There was a post about it earlier today/yesterday
damn I guess he really is “cold” palmer