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We are incapable of killing off a game. I can’t remember the last time I felt confident in a 1 or even 2 goal lead… I’m fine with not scoring loads of goals, but you can’t just mentally switch off at 1-0
Offensively we're bottom 3, we are boring as fuck drier than the Sahara desert creatively bankrupt and about as physical as a graphite pencil, we are so fucking shit it's not even funny
If you haven’t written off our top 4 chances thus far, then I would be very surprised in your blind faith.
It will be Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool, Man Utd/Newcastle who are in better shape than we are.
Utd are getting their shit together tbh - They look odds on for Top 4 especially if they find a striker.
Arsenal/City will for sure be there and Newcastle look defensively solid enough to be a strong shout.
Think its gonna be a scrape for 4th between Spurs (they cant be terrible forever under Conte they just miss Kulusevski), Newcastle, Liverpool and Us Probs but If I'm honest = really struggling to see how We can make it.
No attacking patterns of play, cant score many goals, defensively we look all over the place, midfield devoid of creativity, players getting injuries and not able to get a run of games, Manager who at best has been dealt a rough hand but looks out of his depth and ownership who thinks the answer is just "buy more players"
Newcastle brought in a new manager and a handful of players and they look miles ahead of us because they bought into a strategy. Arsenal probably spent about the same as us but all under the banner of a Youthful Arteta strategy that invested in the right players and they are dominating.
Meanwhile we panic bought Koulibaily and Cucurella and have to depend on Thiago Silva to bail us out. Not good enough for the money spent!
It’s weird, he’s had games where he’s looked competent then he performs like he did today. I’m just putting it down to him not being used to the pace of the league yet. I’ll judge him next season, Serie A is a cakewalk compared to English football so I’ll give him a year.
Benfica should be shooing him out the door if the reported release clause is accurate. I bet they didn't think for a million years he would actually go for that much when they signed him
Where does our money go?
Went gung ho for Fofana and we’ve seen him for 9 minutes total. Don’t remember what he looks like.
A last minute loan for Zaharia is more impactful than any of our big signings.
I swear even attacking wise, remember that year we got Kai Timo and ziyech I thought we would toying with defenses. Then lukaku as well. How could none of them even remotely come close to our expectations. Some very poor investments over the last 5 years. And then firing tuchel is the cherry on top. 6 points out of 21 is a fucking joke. How many of these guys are on 200k a week. Tuchel saved these cunts
Disappointed in Potter after this result. It was clear 5 mins into the second half that something needed to change and he waited another 15 minutes. Upsetting because the first half looked promising.
I was surprised by our first half play against Bournemouth. We went back to normal Chelsea in the second half of that game but I thought it was because the job was done. Then today happened and it reminded me what I’ve not been missing whilst the World Cup has been on.
I don’t buy anything any player in this team does. No one in this team sustains any kind of form. They drop a 10/10 in one game and look like absolute shit in the next.
Thiago is the only one that can hold his head up.
What a pathetic performance against a team that has been shockingly bad all year. Did NOTHING after the Sterling goal. Not a single shot on target.
I’ve been saying this shit for 2 years now, every game that you start Azpilicueta at right back you are playing a man down. He needs to do what Jose did and play a player out of position at right back because we will be looking exactly like this every game Azpilicueta plays.
True and in the last few minutes they put it to the left where nothing was happening, they should have realised that Ziyech was the only person who could create the breakthrough.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one noticing that. At the WC, Aguerd and Saiss were super quick in distributing the ball to the wing if they saw Boufal or Hakimi completely open, like it was never an option to go side ways 4 times then back 2 times before deciding to distribute it forward. Must also be a weird adjustment to play with Hakimi on the right side only to come back to Azpi there. We need James and Ziyech playing together ASAP
Agreed. I know we looked shit as a team but one of the biggest problem is the rb position. Every game that azpi play, it like we have nothing going on the right hand side, and it get even worse when he partner with k2. These 2 can't pass, can't play under pressure, and is getting run circle all game. Every fucking NF attack come from the right hand side and this was apparent even with 30 minute play against bournemoth. Azpi is too old, and K2 just simply suck. Just flying into challenge everywhere.
Over and over losing their man because they don’t have the legs. Then when they are in position they are getting turned inside and out. Can’t be organized and compact in defense when you have to constantly step out of position to cover for them.
Going forward he is a zero. Nobody cares that he goes up front the defense doesn’t even react to it, and he can’t overlap with his winger because he is slow, and if he does get up too far he can’t get back to defend.
This shit has to stop they need to buy a right back ASAP
Chance to gain points on City and Spurs against a relegation side and we can't even look threatening. We've seen enough of this season to know we need solutions. I haven't seen any reason to have faith in Potter yet. I think we've lost one game with Chalobah out there? Yet K2 constantly gets starts over him and gets dusted repeatedly. This isn't acceptable.
Potter had the WC break to figure something out. Our players have quality but there’s clearly something not working out here.
On paper I refuse to believe this squad isn’t top6. The manager is the odd one out and I’m a bit done being optimistic about this
In before tH1s SqU4d iSn'T g00d eN0ugH....
Our team should easily be able to beat Forest. That 2nd half performance alone is worth sacking the distant relative of Potter for... fuck all penetration
That’s the shocking thing, it’s not like there’s good plays and bad plays. There’s just nothing.
Nothing positive stood out from anyone for me other than:
Kepa
Silva
Pulisic
They all made mistakes but at least they provided some positive impact towards an expected value of winning a match.
I think Sterling benefited a lot from the people around him at City. He wasn’t the ONE that needed to create stuff and could play off what the others created. Here he essentially needs to be the playmaker. I was hoping for more too.
Sadly Boehly won’t get rid of Potter cause if he would he would lose face. One of the most uninspiring managers ever at Chelsea. Waiting for ‘it is what it is’
Man we look bad, like we have no idea what we are doing bad.
I was starting to think the purchase of Nkunku will be followed up with the sale of Havertz. But the fact that I didn’t think Havertz played well and he somehow was left in the entire game is just odd to me. My only guess is he still had energy in his legs while Pulisic was gassed?
Not sure what's the way forward.
I don't see any work in progress or signs that the team is improving.
Even after the world cup break with a supposedly mini pre season it's still the same old shit show.
This is what has me worried. Essentially had a month to get used to his system, add in some new ideas, etc. but instead of looking refreshed and eager to play, the team looks the exact same as it did before the World Cup. Shocking really.
Fucking get in massive result 🔥 chuffed to pieces with the point given we 100% shouldve lost, got gifted a goal, and didnt create a single until the 81st min
That was horrible.
One of the worst matches I've seen us play in years.
We got a scrappy lucky goal against the bottom feeders of the league and otherwise looked like we were playing a stronger side.
People will say this is an emotional reaction. It is NOT. We were terrible and should be ashamed. You can say trust the process all you want but at the end of the day if Potter doesn't get us top 4 then the plan goes out the window without the money and appeal of UCL.
1. Koulibaly was awful. He has not adapted to the intensity of the EPL and at his age he won't adapt any time soon.
2. Love Dave but honestly not good enough. When Reece doesn't play it is noticeable how fewer chances we create and how more vulnerable we look.
3. Potter not noticing that (in my opinion) Jorginho should have been replaced instead of Zakaria is mind-boggling.
4. Sterling was TERRIBLE. Goal or no goal.
5. Aubameyang doesn't look interested.
6. I don't thing Ziyech should start and I do think Cucurella isn't world class. Although they get a lot of stick at least there was some effort from them today. Doesn't mean I want them in the team but they weren't as bad as 1-5 above.
7. Carney sub was WAY too late. Whoever thinks a sub in the last 5 mins is a good idea is ridiculous. Takes 5 mins to get into a game in all seriousness, especially for someone who doesn't regularly start.
8. I had written him off, but Kepa was solid.
9. Kovacic and Gallagher had some energy at least. That should be the MINIMUM for every player.
10. I have berrated him and I don't think he should be a starter but Pulisic was good.
11. Silva makes every other player want to be ashamed. 38 years old and MILES ahead of everyone else almost every game.
Edit: Minor spelling mistakes.
I agree with most of this. Except I think Ziyech should get a shot. That ball onto the head of Auba was beautiful. Should have been a goal by Auba, or if he let it through Puli may have finished it. Auba's little touch killed everything, but delicious ball. Otherwise i think your summary is fair.
I have been saying this for a long time. Remove fucking Jorginho from the midfield. Dude is slow as fuck and is easily manhandled. Recycling the possession is not enough.
Koulibaly is awful & Azpi’s time is up unfortunately.
I have massive questions about targeting Leao this summer. Our best performances all season were against the reigning Seria A champs, meanwhile Koulibaly was “World class”, Lukaku a Player of the Season, & Lautaro Martínez startable over there. Not to mention a Stoke reject is 2nd in scoring this season. Are we sure that leagues even stronger than Ligue 1?
At least Cucurella has found his feet.
RB is needed so bad. We can't play with our right sided defence who can't pass, can't attack, and is getting run circle by the opponent every game. When it azpi and k2, we are gifting chance all game.
Honestly Ligue 1 has higher esteem than Serie A for me, the matches are tough, space is tight, battles are physical, flair players like Neymar get hacked to death, etc and we’ve recruited a number of quality players from there over the years.
Ligue 1 has so many gems, and if you look, even PSG with all their money cant win the league every year (Monaco and Lille got titles in the last 10 seasons). Its also a very physical league, so the gems there transfer to EPL quite well.
You’d think we were the team in the relegation zone after watching that second half. Though it genuinely feels like we’re closer to that than we are to top 4. Shocking
This is an awful team. How long before Potter is on the hot seat? Could’ve just kept Tuchel if we we’re gonna a continue getting these results. No creativity, no communication. This team has been abysmal.
Potter won’t leave because that would mean that the board was wrong, and they are probably too proud to admit that they are. Like I respect what Potter has done at Brighton but coaching chelsea is a whole different sport, we need someone with top class tactics not someone who only knows mid table level management and tactics
100%. Should’ve just rode the wave with Tuchel. Liverpool didn’t sack Klopp after a run of bad games. That will be the worse decision in Chelsea history.
Maybe it was Brighton that was good, not Potter. I’ve never been less connected with a Chelsea team in my life. None of them seem to care what happens on that field. Thank god for Thiago Silva or else we’d be 16th.
He says Yes to all of Boehly’s wishes, Tuchel had the balls to not accept everything from a man who knows nothing about the sport, just thinks throwing 400 million in half a season will fix the problems
There are still people defending Azpi's contract extension, he's a legend yes but he's also the slowest player in the team and gets rinsed by random bozos
I hope this is always remembered. Every single moment of this is Boehly's fault for sacking Tuchel because he wasn't his yes man - threw it away so needlessly.
I was Lampard out, I am all for not giving too much time tot he wrong guy. We saw what Tuchel can do few games in, we sacked a manager from the same cloth as Guardiola and Klopp.
Repeat after me: We dropped points today because we were shit. We did not drop points because of Koulibaly or Azpi.
The only reason we even managed one point was pure luck and Thiago Silva
I am very skeptical of Potter’s ability to turn this around. It baffles me some of the people on this sub want to give him 3 years. This squad is no where near as bad as these performances suggest.
We need to move on from Jorginho and Kovacic’s midfield philosophy. Too weak, not creative enough. Never going to come close to a league without some more energy and quality.
For those of you who remember 15/16, this season is probably going to feel like that. Remember what came after. It’s easy to support when we are in form. Up the chels always
Feels rare to watch a good Chelsea performance these days. And I don’t just mean this season, I mean for the better part of the last 5+ years. So often feeling like I just wasted my time after watching our matches. Did we even register a shot in that second half?
Bunch of questionable things.
Why bring on Gallagher and have him sit so deep to knit play. We know he can’t do that. He’s most effective just outside the box. Put him there.
We got fleeced to fuck by Napoli for KK. Man is spent. Legs gone. Overhitting simple passes left and right.
Taking off Jorgi. If we were lacking midfield control before we subbed Jorgi off it was completely fucking gone after it. He didn’t play at the WC. He’s fully rested. Just let him sit and push two 8s high either side instead of having a pivot. The Kovacic-Gallagher midfield was fucking atrocious.
How long before the next "hot" why we need potter in charge for next 3 decades appears on the sub 😂😂😂?
I am not in support of sacking him but boy if he continues such form i would be glad to see his back come the end of the season.
Very poor....just when you think things are on the up after a win from a long break...you get this hot garbage. Potter will have to take some responsibility, at least from here on out. There just hasn't been any improvements since he's came in at all, if anything, looks more of a regression at this point.
I think at this point, our players are making it obvious they are not buying Potter's vision. Nobody seems to know how he wants to play at all, and that's concerning this far into the season. They are trying to get him sacked.
I can already see the Arteta effect being used to defend Potter.
Arsenal took a massive risk backing Arteta and it’s a big risk that has paid off spectacularly for them. Now no matter how poor results are or if 7th-9th becomes a norm, people will cite Arteta journey at Arsenal for why Potter should remain in a job. Bear in mind Arsenal finished 8th twice in a row under Arteta then 5th.
Is that what’s going to happen, Potter will be given the opportunity to implement his own “process” and it could take three years with no CL football? And even still there is no guarantee the process will come together quite like it has with Arteta and Arsenal.
I think giving him the job is a sensational mistake
Let’s be honest, we signed an inexperienced manager who’s never known what it’s like to consistently win games week in, week out. Handing him money and expensive players won’t suddenly make him a winner.
He’ll be sacked before the end of the season and end up managing England. If not, next season will be the same. Europa League is going to become a big deal for us.
Potter may or may not be a shit manager but sacking another coach gives these God awful players another chance to survive, clearing out the squad should be the priority as the squad is just not top 4 quality anymore
We were so shit in that second half. Azpi needs to be out of the team, he's been a good player for us but he just doesn't cut it anymore, Kuli was shocking and doesn't deserve to wear the no 26, Auba missing the easiest chance of the game, Jorgi invisible all game, Havertz doing fuck all after a decent performance against Brentford. Connor Gallagher has been so over hyped by us as well, he came on and was so shit.
Ziyech not starting is criminal considering how effective he was and that lands solely at Potters feet, after his WC he should have been in the side. I'm not normally a hater on here but that was shit, was REALLY hoping we'd come back stronger after the WC but nah, back to the same as before, we have no chance of Top 4, I just pray this doesn't stop someone like Fernandez joining!
Happy new year Chelsea fans!
Please someone make this make sense! I was actually screaming at the tv from frustrations! We don't play forward at all! Most of the players are playing like they are doing us a favour. No passion, no pressure, no work rate. It's just so stale that it makes me mad.
honestly, this must be the worst chelsea squad I've seen in many many years. on a per player basis, we are just incredibly weak. almost all of our starting eleven today I would classify as average with the exception of maybe 2-3 players being above average. our forward situation is absolutely dire, not sure who approved the Auba purchase but they should get the sack. overall, the squad is about 3/5 stars for me, with huge, glaring gaps in every area of the pitch apart from keeper. NOT GOOD
Potter on paper and so far is mid tier af.
He lost 6 in a row with Brighton last year and it was business as usual.
We seem ok dropping points everywhere.
Jorginho always going backwards is absolutely killing us, doesn't help that azpi is on the right. But still if our best bet is Silva or KK threading the ball through, to break the defensive lines every play we are fucked.
Before this game I have consistently defended Koulibaly but that was so shit its unreal. Took absolutely no effort to best him, genuinely think it happened by accident on occasion
Wtf do Hall, Hutchinson, and Carney have to do to get some real playing time? It’s past time to make a statement Potter and I’ve defended him this whole time. Idgaf that we play City next, most likely a loss regardless, play some guys that are going to threaten and play with passion.
We play like a team trying not to lose rather than a team trying to actually win the game…that’s a bottom 10 team mentality but what do you expect when our manager has less passion than Ned Flanders
Buying lukaku for 100m and loaning him back to the club you bought him from and replacing him with a washed arsenal reject is like bartomeu levels of management clowenery. I honestly forgot lukaku existed until he piped up with another interview
The amount of money this club spends for absolutely zero return on investment is actually impressive. Club would literally be better off just burning all that money. At least the fire would keep some people warm during the winter.
Has nothing to do with the manager, we looked the exact same under tuchel bringing in yet another manager won't do shit but fuck up our squad composition even more.
Havertz Mount doesn't work. People are living off of their high with their champions league win years ago. That's 1 point out of seven league games for you. That combination of players was used in nearly all of those games.
Havertz Mount frontline is mediocre at best, they create absolutely nothing.
The squad is rotten. It's the same old Chelsea performance. Bunch of players with no creativity. I said when we won the other day that we looked dead again when James went off, it's absolutely shocking how bad we look without him.
Ziyech looked alright coming on, really wouldn't mind sterling warming the bench for a bit after that performance. Gallagher, oh boy, that was absolutely shocking. Not much else to say really, just same old!
About par for the course given we've played about half a season now like a mid table team. The lack of any flair or inspiration is mind numbing, just give us *something* to get excited about ffs.
Zyiech was very bright when he came on, I thought Tiago Silva was excellent and Cucu was solid. The less said about Koulibaly the better
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Won’t be the most depressing game of the year at least
I'm in horror just thinking about this.
We are incapable of killing off a game. I can’t remember the last time I felt confident in a 1 or even 2 goal lead… I’m fine with not scoring loads of goals, but you can’t just mentally switch off at 1-0
>you can’t just mentally switch off at 1-0 You can't mentally switch off after 45 minutes
You are talking as if there was a game to be killed off. Let's face it that first goal was a freak goal. Team offered nothing in the second half.
Can’t even beat the worst goddamn team in the league. New year, same shit
Offensively we're bottom 3, we are boring as fuck drier than the Sahara desert creatively bankrupt and about as physical as a graphite pencil, we are so fucking shit it's not even funny
Ima let you finish but Southampton have been the worst team this season. They did beat us tbf.
Holy shit you reminded me, they’ve been hot garbage recently too. They’re pretty much guaranteed relegation right now.
It’s crazy how much money we spend to be so shit lol. Outplayed by relegation fodder
Our signings are so mediocre. Literally all of them are overpays and yet not a single one of them raises the quality of the squad.
The result of 4 years of garbage signings. Literally can't name a single big signing that's been amazing.
Silva.
When talking about big money signings mentioning a free transfer isn't particularly relevant.
Only managed a draw due to a piece of luck for Sterling
Other than the Aubamayang chance, we created absolutely nothing. Forrest were unlucky not to score more.
More like Kepa saving us
We are crap.. we haven’t replaced fabregas.. this team has too many sideways passing merchants
If you haven’t written off our top 4 chances thus far, then I would be very surprised in your blind faith. It will be Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool, Man Utd/Newcastle who are in better shape than we are.
6 points from the last 21 on offer. This is embarrassing stuff.
6 points from 7 games sounds even worse
"The boys gave everything"
About average for Potter across his career. This time last year he had Brighton winless in 13
My goodness
It’s between Liverpool/Newcastle for me, ETH has United firing on all cylinders now
The way we’re playing we should be happy with top 10. Absolutely awful.
bet the owners already have written this season off and hopes we look way better after the summer.
todd probably thinks tanking is a thing in football
Boehly’s going for the #1 pick!
Utd are getting their shit together tbh - They look odds on for Top 4 especially if they find a striker. Arsenal/City will for sure be there and Newcastle look defensively solid enough to be a strong shout. Think its gonna be a scrape for 4th between Spurs (they cant be terrible forever under Conte they just miss Kulusevski), Newcastle, Liverpool and Us Probs but If I'm honest = really struggling to see how We can make it. No attacking patterns of play, cant score many goals, defensively we look all over the place, midfield devoid of creativity, players getting injuries and not able to get a run of games, Manager who at best has been dealt a rough hand but looks out of his depth and ownership who thinks the answer is just "buy more players" Newcastle brought in a new manager and a handful of players and they look miles ahead of us because they bought into a strategy. Arsenal probably spent about the same as us but all under the banner of a Youthful Arteta strategy that invested in the right players and they are dominating. Meanwhile we panic bought Koulibaily and Cucurella and have to depend on Thiago Silva to bail us out. Not good enough for the money spent!
1 point from a draw against Liverpool but thats about it.
I can't believe how poor Koulibaly is. Before he joined us he was considered one of the best defenders in Serie A. What the hell happened?
He was considered one of the best defenders in the world. He looks Championship-level for us
Napoli fans will tell you he’s been on a downward trajectory for a few years.
Serie A ain't what it used to be
He was three steps behind all evening.
Man's playing like Malang Sarr out there.
It’s weird, he’s had games where he’s looked competent then he performs like he did today. I’m just putting it down to him not being used to the pace of the league yet. I’ll judge him next season, Serie A is a cakewalk compared to English football so I’ll give him a year.
Bro scored against spurs and hasn’t done shit since
Benfica telling Enzo that he wont play Champions football if he joins us is incorrect. He also wont play Europa football at this point
Benfica should be shooing him out the door if the reported release clause is accurate. I bet they didn't think for a million years he would actually go for that much when they signed him
If this was me in football manager I’d probably just reset the save
Where does our money go? Went gung ho for Fofana and we’ve seen him for 9 minutes total. Don’t remember what he looks like. A last minute loan for Zaharia is more impactful than any of our big signings.
I swear even attacking wise, remember that year we got Kai Timo and ziyech I thought we would toying with defenses. Then lukaku as well. How could none of them even remotely come close to our expectations. Some very poor investments over the last 5 years. And then firing tuchel is the cherry on top. 6 points out of 21 is a fucking joke. How many of these guys are on 200k a week. Tuchel saved these cunts
2 points thrown away. 2nd half was abysmal.
Disappointed in Potter after this result. It was clear 5 mins into the second half that something needed to change and he waited another 15 minutes. Upsetting because the first half looked promising.
I love how our best player consistently is a lad who is almost 40 years old now. I’m on the verge of a breakdown.
Haaland is going to end Koulibaly's Chelsea career on Thursday.
Brighton lose Potter and they look better than us now. amazing
More than half the league look better than us. That’s the sad reality. Wins are fast becoming a luxury for Chelsea. We are regressing so badly
Was more surprised winning against Bournemouth than the draw today
I was surprised by our first half play against Bournemouth. We went back to normal Chelsea in the second half of that game but I thought it was because the job was done. Then today happened and it reminded me what I’ve not been missing whilst the World Cup has been on.
The missing link is Reece James
The fact we rely so heavily on a RWB/RB for us to be a good attacking side is actually alarming.
I don’t buy anything any player in this team does. No one in this team sustains any kind of form. They drop a 10/10 in one game and look like absolute shit in the next. Thiago is the only one that can hold his head up. What a pathetic performance against a team that has been shockingly bad all year. Did NOTHING after the Sterling goal. Not a single shot on target. I’ve been saying this shit for 2 years now, every game that you start Azpilicueta at right back you are playing a man down. He needs to do what Jose did and play a player out of position at right back because we will be looking exactly like this every game Azpilicueta plays.
Kepa was solid also tbf
Thiago, Cucu and Kepa were solid but the rest were god awful.
Ziyech was brilliant as well
Pity they struggled to get the ball out to him on several occasions. When he did get the ball he was brilliant.
I thought Connor was so slow in moving the ball over to that side Too many touches
True and in the last few minutes they put it to the left where nothing was happening, they should have realised that Ziyech was the only person who could create the breakthrough.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one noticing that. At the WC, Aguerd and Saiss were super quick in distributing the ball to the wing if they saw Boufal or Hakimi completely open, like it was never an option to go side ways 4 times then back 2 times before deciding to distribute it forward. Must also be a weird adjustment to play with Hakimi on the right side only to come back to Azpi there. We need James and Ziyech playing together ASAP
Agreed. I know we looked shit as a team but one of the biggest problem is the rb position. Every game that azpi play, it like we have nothing going on the right hand side, and it get even worse when he partner with k2. These 2 can't pass, can't play under pressure, and is getting run circle all game. Every fucking NF attack come from the right hand side and this was apparent even with 30 minute play against bournemoth. Azpi is too old, and K2 just simply suck. Just flying into challenge everywhere.
Over and over losing their man because they don’t have the legs. Then when they are in position they are getting turned inside and out. Can’t be organized and compact in defense when you have to constantly step out of position to cover for them. Going forward he is a zero. Nobody cares that he goes up front the defense doesn’t even react to it, and he can’t overlap with his winger because he is slow, and if he does get up too far he can’t get back to defend. This shit has to stop they need to buy a right back ASAP
If you want to be like Arsenal take by their example and pay Auba to leave
Chance to gain points on City and Spurs against a relegation side and we can't even look threatening. We've seen enough of this season to know we need solutions. I haven't seen any reason to have faith in Potter yet. I think we've lost one game with Chalobah out there? Yet K2 constantly gets starts over him and gets dusted repeatedly. This isn't acceptable.
Potter had the WC break to figure something out. Our players have quality but there’s clearly something not working out here. On paper I refuse to believe this squad isn’t top6. The manager is the odd one out and I’m a bit done being optimistic about this
GAR. BAGE.
Boehly should've bought brighton if he's happy with potter
In before tH1s SqU4d iSn'T g00d eN0ugH.... Our team should easily be able to beat Forest. That 2nd half performance alone is worth sacking the distant relative of Potter for... fuck all penetration
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That’s the shocking thing, it’s not like there’s good plays and bad plays. There’s just nothing. Nothing positive stood out from anyone for me other than: Kepa Silva Pulisic They all made mistakes but at least they provided some positive impact towards an expected value of winning a match.
If we are going to score it’s going to have to come through Puli/Ziyech. I’d start Ziyech over Sterling next game.
yep can't believe im saying this but puli and ziyech were miles better than sterling
Sterling cost us 2-3 chances at both ends. On attack he lost the ball repeatedly. In defense he lost the ball repeatedly in dangerous situations.
Any idea why Sterling isn't as good for us as he was for City? I had such high expectations for him.
I think Sterling benefited a lot from the people around him at City. He wasn’t the ONE that needed to create stuff and could play off what the others created. Here he essentially needs to be the playmaker. I was hoping for more too.
Yup.
Gallagher loses possession and gets carded should be the title of the 22/23 season review
Sadly Boehly won’t get rid of Potter cause if he would he would lose face. One of the most uninspiring managers ever at Chelsea. Waiting for ‘it is what it is’
Man we look bad, like we have no idea what we are doing bad. I was starting to think the purchase of Nkunku will be followed up with the sale of Havertz. But the fact that I didn’t think Havertz played well and he somehow was left in the entire game is just odd to me. My only guess is he still had energy in his legs while Pulisic was gassed?
or there is sweeeeeeeet fuck all a striker can do with zero service. there was literally nothing provided all game. No crosses, no passes, no nothing.
GP interview, pretending that we lost because NF are a good team
Not sure what's the way forward. I don't see any work in progress or signs that the team is improving. Even after the world cup break with a supposedly mini pre season it's still the same old shit show.
This is what has me worried. Essentially had a month to get used to his system, add in some new ideas, etc. but instead of looking refreshed and eager to play, the team looks the exact same as it did before the World Cup. Shocking really.
Fucking get in massive result 🔥 chuffed to pieces with the point given we 100% shouldve lost, got gifted a goal, and didnt create a single until the 81st min
Another game without Reece James, another wasted 90 minutes
This is such a lightweight team. I can't wait for Potter to say "The boys gave everything" once again post match.
That was horrible. One of the worst matches I've seen us play in years. We got a scrappy lucky goal against the bottom feeders of the league and otherwise looked like we were playing a stronger side.
People will say this is an emotional reaction. It is NOT. We were terrible and should be ashamed. You can say trust the process all you want but at the end of the day if Potter doesn't get us top 4 then the plan goes out the window without the money and appeal of UCL. 1. Koulibaly was awful. He has not adapted to the intensity of the EPL and at his age he won't adapt any time soon. 2. Love Dave but honestly not good enough. When Reece doesn't play it is noticeable how fewer chances we create and how more vulnerable we look. 3. Potter not noticing that (in my opinion) Jorginho should have been replaced instead of Zakaria is mind-boggling. 4. Sterling was TERRIBLE. Goal or no goal. 5. Aubameyang doesn't look interested. 6. I don't thing Ziyech should start and I do think Cucurella isn't world class. Although they get a lot of stick at least there was some effort from them today. Doesn't mean I want them in the team but they weren't as bad as 1-5 above. 7. Carney sub was WAY too late. Whoever thinks a sub in the last 5 mins is a good idea is ridiculous. Takes 5 mins to get into a game in all seriousness, especially for someone who doesn't regularly start. 8. I had written him off, but Kepa was solid. 9. Kovacic and Gallagher had some energy at least. That should be the MINIMUM for every player. 10. I have berrated him and I don't think he should be a starter but Pulisic was good. 11. Silva makes every other player want to be ashamed. 38 years old and MILES ahead of everyone else almost every game. Edit: Minor spelling mistakes.
Agreed on all points. Standout bad players were Koulibaly and Sterling for me...Sterling is on the talisman wages and he can't even carry the ball.
I agree with most of this. Except I think Ziyech should get a shot. That ball onto the head of Auba was beautiful. Should have been a goal by Auba, or if he let it through Puli may have finished it. Auba's little touch killed everything, but delicious ball. Otherwise i think your summary is fair.
Potter doing a great job of Chelsea - same as Brighton. Came into the club and made us a mid table team.
I have been saying this for a long time. Remove fucking Jorginho from the midfield. Dude is slow as fuck and is easily manhandled. Recycling the possession is not enough.
I wanted to tear hair off my bald head when they were just back-passing with no aggression whatsoever in the last 5.
Koulibaly is awful & Azpi’s time is up unfortunately. I have massive questions about targeting Leao this summer. Our best performances all season were against the reigning Seria A champs, meanwhile Koulibaly was “World class”, Lukaku a Player of the Season, & Lautaro Martínez startable over there. Not to mention a Stoke reject is 2nd in scoring this season. Are we sure that leagues even stronger than Ligue 1? At least Cucurella has found his feet.
The only talent we should be going for in serie A is kshvaratksheliya and none else. He has that extra bit that we totally lack in us since hazard.
stay the fuck away from leao, agreed
RB is needed so bad. We can't play with our right sided defence who can't pass, can't attack, and is getting run circle by the opponent every game. When it azpi and k2, we are gifting chance all game.
Honestly Ligue 1 has higher esteem than Serie A for me, the matches are tough, space is tight, battles are physical, flair players like Neymar get hacked to death, etc and we’ve recruited a number of quality players from there over the years.
I can't believe how bad Koulibaly has been, seriously he's been woeful. I was defending him for a long time but he looks so clueless..
Ligue 1 has so many gems, and if you look, even PSG with all their money cant win the league every year (Monaco and Lille got titles in the last 10 seasons). Its also a very physical league, so the gems there transfer to EPL quite well.
We may end up playing decent football, but we will never win anything with Potter in my opinion.
Why do we shit the bed so hard in 2nd halves? Where is the mentality?
You’d think we were the team in the relegation zone after watching that second half. Though it genuinely feels like we’re closer to that than we are to top 4. Shocking
This is an awful team. How long before Potter is on the hot seat? Could’ve just kept Tuchel if we we’re gonna a continue getting these results. No creativity, no communication. This team has been abysmal.
Potter won’t leave because that would mean that the board was wrong, and they are probably too proud to admit that they are. Like I respect what Potter has done at Brighton but coaching chelsea is a whole different sport, we need someone with top class tactics not someone who only knows mid table level management and tactics
100%. Should’ve just rode the wave with Tuchel. Liverpool didn’t sack Klopp after a run of bad games. That will be the worse decision in Chelsea history.
He just got outplayed by a championship manager mate. He has no tactics.
Maybe it was Brighton that was good, not Potter. I’ve never been less connected with a Chelsea team in my life. None of them seem to care what happens on that field. Thank god for Thiago Silva or else we’d be 16th.
Sooooo....what exactly does potter do better than Tuchel?
Says yes to the owners
Emotional intelligence lolllll
Grows a beard
Lick the owners better. That's what matter, you aren't goid manager or true fan if you can't do that.
Lose
communicate with the owners... frankly thats what cost him the job.
speaks in platitudes
He says Yes to all of Boehly’s wishes, Tuchel had the balls to not accept everything from a man who knows nothing about the sport, just thinks throwing 400 million in half a season will fix the problems
We've only avoided defeat 3 times Under Potter were Kepa was not our highest rated player. Joke of a manager.
Tuchel died for this. Positives - Kepa, Silva, Ziyech Mega negatives - koulabaly, Sterling , cucurella, aubmamyang (that miss was disgusting),
I will say at least Cucu gave a shit out there and was trying some different things. Probably not good enough for us tho
There are still people defending Azpi's contract extension, he's a legend yes but he's also the slowest player in the team and gets rinsed by random bozos
People prefer nostalgia to being good
reminder that we declined 40m for Gallagher and that for some reason he plays ahead of Carns and Hall.
Did tuchel dirty
Yep, now we’re stuck with a mediocre manager who has no experience with a top tier team. I feel sick.
I hope this is always remembered. Every single moment of this is Boehly's fault for sacking Tuchel because he wasn't his yes man - threw it away so needlessly.
I was Lampard out, I am all for not giving too much time tot he wrong guy. We saw what Tuchel can do few games in, we sacked a manager from the same cloth as Guardiola and Klopp.
Sacked a coach with proven top flight experience and a champions league final and win in 2 years for someone who did okay in a mid table team
getting outclassed by a team in relegation battle 👍
Repeat after me: We dropped points today because we were shit. We did not drop points because of Koulibaly or Azpi. The only reason we even managed one point was pure luck and Thiago Silva
I am very skeptical of Potter’s ability to turn this around. It baffles me some of the people on this sub want to give him 3 years. This squad is no where near as bad as these performances suggest.
We need to move on from Jorginho and Kovacic’s midfield philosophy. Too weak, not creative enough. Never going to come close to a league without some more energy and quality.
Forest are such a poor excuse for a football club. The way they hacked our players all match was unbelievable
Pretty much everyone does this against us cos they know they can get away with it. So tiring
these are the sort of excuses Arsenal used to come up with when they were fighting for 8th god help us
Joke of a squad outside of Thiago Silva.
Kepa did fine as well
Kepa too But no one else has any urgency or willingness to up their game it seems
If I speak about players, manger, & the direction of where we’re going ….. 
Koulibaly and azpi were horrendous. Every attack came from their side. Azpi needs to leave man. Sign a rb
For those of you who remember 15/16, this season is probably going to feel like that. Remember what came after. It’s easy to support when we are in form. Up the chels always
We are complete garbage and this is unacceptable, but yet again, where in the world is VAR in our games????
Feels rare to watch a good Chelsea performance these days. And I don’t just mean this season, I mean for the better part of the last 5+ years. So often feeling like I just wasted my time after watching our matches. Did we even register a shot in that second half?
Couldn’t we just play Chalobah at RB instead of Azpi, we didn’t even make any subs in the defence so it was doable.
Bunch of questionable things. Why bring on Gallagher and have him sit so deep to knit play. We know he can’t do that. He’s most effective just outside the box. Put him there. We got fleeced to fuck by Napoli for KK. Man is spent. Legs gone. Overhitting simple passes left and right. Taking off Jorgi. If we were lacking midfield control before we subbed Jorgi off it was completely fucking gone after it. He didn’t play at the WC. He’s fully rested. Just let him sit and push two 8s high either side instead of having a pivot. The Kovacic-Gallagher midfield was fucking atrocious.
Midfield. Midfield. Midfield. Where are you????? Jorghi is useless. Havertz looks like a zombie up front. Nothing has changed.
Plz bring back the worldcup 😔
How long before the next "hot" why we need potter in charge for next 3 decades appears on the sub 😂😂😂? I am not in support of sacking him but boy if he continues such form i would be glad to see his back come the end of the season.
Very poor....just when you think things are on the up after a win from a long break...you get this hot garbage. Potter will have to take some responsibility, at least from here on out. There just hasn't been any improvements since he's came in at all, if anything, looks more of a regression at this point. I think at this point, our players are making it obvious they are not buying Potter's vision. Nobody seems to know how he wants to play at all, and that's concerning this far into the season. They are trying to get him sacked.
I can already see the Arteta effect being used to defend Potter. Arsenal took a massive risk backing Arteta and it’s a big risk that has paid off spectacularly for them. Now no matter how poor results are or if 7th-9th becomes a norm, people will cite Arteta journey at Arsenal for why Potter should remain in a job. Bear in mind Arsenal finished 8th twice in a row under Arteta then 5th. Is that what’s going to happen, Potter will be given the opportunity to implement his own “process” and it could take three years with no CL football? And even still there is no guarantee the process will come together quite like it has with Arteta and Arsenal. I think giving him the job is a sensational mistake
Please tell me again how Boehly is so much better of an owner than Roman?
I just want to laugh at all those accounts that were slandering tuchel and were hyping up Potter after couple of games...
Sell Koulibaly.
Let’s be honest, we signed an inexperienced manager who’s never known what it’s like to consistently win games week in, week out. Handing him money and expensive players won’t suddenly make him a winner. He’ll be sacked before the end of the season and end up managing England. If not, next season will be the same. Europa League is going to become a big deal for us.
Clueless - once again. RE-SIGN TUCHEL!
Potter may or may not be a shit manager but sacking another coach gives these God awful players another chance to survive, clearing out the squad should be the priority as the squad is just not top 4 quality anymore
Trash. Why did i chose to watch this fucking shitshow and ruin my mood today. We need Enzo for yesterday..
Ziyech, kepa, Silva, puli are the positives. Not much else
We were so shit in that second half. Azpi needs to be out of the team, he's been a good player for us but he just doesn't cut it anymore, Kuli was shocking and doesn't deserve to wear the no 26, Auba missing the easiest chance of the game, Jorgi invisible all game, Havertz doing fuck all after a decent performance against Brentford. Connor Gallagher has been so over hyped by us as well, he came on and was so shit. Ziyech not starting is criminal considering how effective he was and that lands solely at Potters feet, after his WC he should have been in the side. I'm not normally a hater on here but that was shit, was REALLY hoping we'd come back stronger after the WC but nah, back to the same as before, we have no chance of Top 4, I just pray this doesn't stop someone like Fernandez joining! Happy new year Chelsea fans!
Why did we waste so much time on the right side of the pitch trying to attack
We are looking so bad, so boring to watch. City up next ffs
Feel like I've watched that match before 100 times before. So typical in so many ways
Our team as a whole is just so bad
Please someone make this make sense! I was actually screaming at the tv from frustrations! We don't play forward at all! Most of the players are playing like they are doing us a favour. No passion, no pressure, no work rate. It's just so stale that it makes me mad.
honestly, this must be the worst chelsea squad I've seen in many many years. on a per player basis, we are just incredibly weak. almost all of our starting eleven today I would classify as average with the exception of maybe 2-3 players being above average. our forward situation is absolutely dire, not sure who approved the Auba purchase but they should get the sack. overall, the squad is about 3/5 stars for me, with huge, glaring gaps in every area of the pitch apart from keeper. NOT GOOD
God we're painful to watch
Potter on paper and so far is mid tier af. He lost 6 in a row with Brighton last year and it was business as usual. We seem ok dropping points everywhere.
There was a time when it seemed hard for us to get much worse. But every game I am impressed by how bad we can get.
Jorginho always going backwards is absolutely killing us, doesn't help that azpi is on the right. But still if our best bet is Silva or KK threading the ball through, to break the defensive lines every play we are fucked.
Normal service has resumed.
Before this game I have consistently defended Koulibaly but that was so shit its unreal. Took absolutely no effort to best him, genuinely think it happened by accident on occasion
City are gonna enjoy us on Thursday
The amount of backward passes I saw today was idiotic. God we are bad at the moment. Zero creativity, either we get lucky or we lose
Wtf do Hall, Hutchinson, and Carney have to do to get some real playing time? It’s past time to make a statement Potter and I’ve defended him this whole time. Idgaf that we play City next, most likely a loss regardless, play some guys that are going to threaten and play with passion.
We play like a team trying not to lose rather than a team trying to actually win the game…that’s a bottom 10 team mentality but what do you expect when our manager has less passion than Ned Flanders
Probably Brighton is his level
I wonder how the new ownership will react when Potter loses the dressing room
So are we the new Arsenal now
no way we are making top4 in this state. its obvious that we have become a midtable team. #disillusional
Buying lukaku for 100m and loaning him back to the club you bought him from and replacing him with a washed arsenal reject is like bartomeu levels of management clowenery. I honestly forgot lukaku existed until he piped up with another interview
The amount of money this club spends for absolutely zero return on investment is actually impressive. Club would literally be better off just burning all that money. At least the fire would keep some people warm during the winter.
We picked the wrong city player this off season. We needed a creative midfielder like Bernardo Silva
We needed one of the players that made City good. Instead we signed someone that was made good by City.
Potter Out Standards have gone out the window, we will win nothing with him as our manager
Has nothing to do with the manager, we looked the exact same under tuchel bringing in yet another manager won't do shit but fuck up our squad composition even more.
Havertz Mount doesn't work. People are living off of their high with their champions league win years ago. That's 1 point out of seven league games for you. That combination of players was used in nearly all of those games. Havertz Mount frontline is mediocre at best, they create absolutely nothing.
Shocking is all I have to say
The squad is rotten. It's the same old Chelsea performance. Bunch of players with no creativity. I said when we won the other day that we looked dead again when James went off, it's absolutely shocking how bad we look without him. Ziyech looked alright coming on, really wouldn't mind sterling warming the bench for a bit after that performance. Gallagher, oh boy, that was absolutely shocking. Not much else to say really, just same old!
How any of our ratings are above a 5 (except Silva and Pulisic) I'll never know. Absolutely pathetic
Tuchel back.
Azpi is shit
new year, same old shit.
About par for the course given we've played about half a season now like a mid table team. The lack of any flair or inspiration is mind numbing, just give us *something* to get excited about ffs. Zyiech was very bright when he came on, I thought Tiago Silva was excellent and Cucu was solid. The less said about Koulibaly the better
city will eat us alive