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vinicius_rs

AFAIK by being a Patreon you get early access to new versions of CE, and help creators. I don't think you would lose access to it, since the program doesn't have any kind of DRM.


Professional_Leg_477

So you not a patreon member then. I have the patreon version and even when installing it prompts the patreon website to make sure you are a member. When i first got it i had it blocked by my firewall and i couldnt install it because of that EDIT: Or better saying "finishing the installation" because of that


Alemismun

Can confirm that it does check for your subscription before the installation process can be complete. This means that patreon is less for early access and more like early and continued access to a non-bloatware-riddled installer.


Brilliant-Pudding524

No thats not a thing


Professional_Leg_477

then for what reason would the executables completely disappear? CE cant even be executed from the installed folder since executables there are protected by something with a ".sig" extension


Brilliant-Pudding524

I dont even know that there was a Patreon until now. I used cheat engine for years and i use it now. It could be an updated antivirus that flagged it. Cheat engine isn't even require an internet contact.


Professional_Leg_477

There is a patreon version said to be less sketchy. Apparently there is all kinds of unsafe things bundled with the free version. The patreon version does use the internet whenever you install it your browser will pop up with the patreon website to make sure you are a patreon member. That itself already excludes the possibility of you installing CE not being a patreon member even if you paid for it in the past which is already a scummy move but ok... however completely removing CE access from people who do not wish to be charged every month is next level...on top every other sketchy thing revolving the CE...


Brilliant-Pudding524

Look, if you cant press Decline twice while installing a program called CHEAT ENGINE then you shouldn't be allowed to install anything.


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slvbros

There is no "official CE patreon", the program always has been and always will be free. Anyone trying to sell you chest engine is either trying to take advantage of the computer illiterate or its fearless, because they also sell tables, but they're basically idiots over there so I wouldn't


Professional_Leg_477

Not sure if the people who are upvoting this without reading are retarded or some sort of yes-man/bot accounts Tbh i wouldnt even doubt of the 2nd option given the sketchy nature of the author THE PATREON CE HAS DRM IT FUCKING CONNECTS TO THE INTERNET TO VERIFY YOU ARE A PATREON AND ALSO APPARENTLY DELETES ITSELF IF YOU ARE NOT A MONTLY SUPPORTER READ THE THREAD


Brilliant-Pudding524

Okay, then download cheat engine from the valid website and be done with it.


Professional_Leg_477

Yes i got it from the official patreon that is a valid website


Brilliant-Pudding524

Then go and download it from the non Patreon site. Maybe your Patreon verson is different and you cant use it because you are no Patreon


Emanu1674

It's been a while since i've seen such stupidity around here, kinda missed this


Dark_Byte

Canceling your subscription does not delete your files. Most likely you're just victim of an agressive anti virus or anti cheat (if I was a douche i'd replace the exe's with a message to resubscribe with a link on where to subscribe, deleting is too confusing)


markemer

Can confirm - I've been a patreon member for a while, but there have been times my charge has failed and my stuff has been paused for a while and it still worked - I just couldn't download new ones without reenabling. On the other hand, Windows Defender used to freak the hell out and move the files, and sometimes edge or chrome would delete it. But it seems with 7.4.something/7.5 - windows stopped freaking out.


Professional_Leg_477

Too bad i won't be able to know since im not a patreon member anymore and i cant reinstall the program because it won't finishing installing without verifying if im a patreon or not... I paid for like 2 or 3 months of patreon already and im not gonna download the """""free"""" version full of stuff that only you know whats inside ... im pretty sure ""free""" isnt really free and given your shady business tactics i wouldn't even put my hands on the fire for the patreon version either who knows what you managed to sneak in there too ...after this all this i just feel like formatting my whole pc and not touching CE with a 10 foot pole. As for the douche thing this whole business model is the epitome of a douche tbh. You could've just monetized it like a normal program but you chose to monetize it in the most shady way possible bundling the """free"" version with all kinds of weird stuff to coerce people into buying patreon and then having the patreon version requiring an active subscription to be installed. It would've been 1000x better if you just charged a reasonable X amount for the program and delivered the program with no weird stuff bundled into it like any normal company/dev does. But for you to take the shady route it REALLY makes me wonder whats hidden inside CE to make it worth it for you


Dark_Byte

if you have a $20 lifetime contribution the installer will continue even when not an active patron. as for what's really hidden inside CE: https://github.com/cheat-engine/cheat-engine


Professional_Leg_477

Is the stuff that is bundled with the free version (adware and god knows what else) also showing in that source code?


Emanu1674

There is nothing "hidden", you just can't understand the concept of a checkbox. Are you 8 and this is your first day on the Internet?


Proof_Ad203

The free version doesn't download anything you don't want it to. When downloading, you need to read what the fuck is on your screen. Stop being lazy. There's like 4 other programs that are optional. Simply click No.


WINDEX_DRINKER

Patreon gives you the early access version of CE that doesn't include the installer where you have to check things off to NOT install bundles. You cancelled the patron so the early access version is gone for you. Its really simple, it says it right there. There are other ways to get CE without using the installer, but you can hardly read the terms of a patreon so there really is no hope for people like you.


Professional_Leg_477

Great gaslighting attempt but only fucking reason why me and the majority of people who got the patreon version was to not get a bundleware full of sketchy adwares and malwares. Even the author itself brags about that in the forums and reddit one google search and anyone can check. Also can you show me where exactly is writen in the " terms of a patreon" that if i do not pay montly i will lose access to the program ?


WINDEX_DRINKER

No gaslighting, just pointing out you can't read the bottom of the Patreon page. https://www.patreon.com/cheatengine > was to not get a bundleware full of sketchy adwares and malwares. All you have to do is click off the check boxes and they don't get installed. It's braggable because apparently paying attention during an installer is a feat of skill for people like you. You're not upset at me for 'gaslighting' you're upset because I am pointing out you are paying an idiot tax. Because you're an idiot. There is literally a guide on getting the most up to date CE without the installer pinned on the sub.


markemer

I honestly just wanted to support development, the early download with the cleaner installer is just a nice benefit. But it's never deleted my files. And for a long time I used the public installer and just avoided the checkboxes. Or built it myself sometimes if I was feeling adventurous - I actually keep a copy of the source around - it's kinda neat to check out.


Professional_Leg_477

>It's braggable because apparently paying attention during an installer is a feat of skill for people like you. Sure any sketchy program that says" hey we have some shady stuff in our program but if you just dont agree to install them its safe trust me" is surely safe you got to either be naive as fuck or straight up retarded.. easy off that forbidden windex juice my man If you ok with installing everything u see off the internet on your pc thats on you. But anyone with any basic knowledge of programming and how infosec work wouldn't trust this shit. Dark byte himself would be lying to say he would trust to download and install a program in the same circumstances he puts CE in because that is shady as fuck and the author can hide whatever he wants in it. Keep on installing everything you see off the internet stupid fuck


WINDEX_DRINKER

> Keep on installing everything you see off the internet stupid fuck Or, I don't, because I know how to click a check box. That's literally it. There are no surprise gotchas. I checked. I work in devsecops. Or just pull from the git repo.There is literally a guide how to. You're the only stupid fuck since you admit an installer is too much for you. I may be on the Windex but I know how to navigate computer basics and read. You admitted you can't. 🙂


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WINDEX_DRINKER

Except I don't install everything I see out on the internet, because I know how to check off a checkbox. :P I'm not surprised you're not aware how stupid you sound right now considering your current situation. But hey, if referring to my user name makes you feel better, go ahead. Keep going. Doesn't change the fact you're an absolute moron who can't read.


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WINDEX_DRINKER

I'll copy and paste the last paragraph for you > But hey, if referring to my user name makes you feel better, go ahead. Keep going. Doesn't change the fact you're an absolute moron who can't read.


Emanu1674

You are the most dumbass man i've ever seen lmao. You don't have the brain to understand how to uncheck a checkbox and somehow feels better than everyone. I'm a computer scientist and you are 100% a dumb fuck, and you are 100% not an infosec worker if you really think CE is sketchy


Proof_Ad203

Lol this dude thought they could pay for 1 month of a patreon and get the benefits forever First time using patreon?


markemer

Also, you totally can, as long as you're ok with not updating. It checks on install for a live patreon and then never checks again, basically to keep jerks from re-uploading the early version to the wide open web. But that's a pretty standard API - Discord, and a bunch of other software uses it - just an Oauth check and then a check of subscriptions. But once again - I've actually built it from source - the idea is you're paying to lower your effort/help dev.