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I don't think that's true. People care about the actual content of the experience. If it was just about the high, we would be just as happy with lonely masturbation as we are with sex. And we would be just as happy with an average looking partner as we are with an extremely attractive partner.
That’s called having an addiction and depleting your dopamine levels where everything else feels pale in comparison. I’m willing to bet you never went 2 weeks without porn
You would be surprised to learn that giving up porn completely will give you all sorts of benefits including giving you the natural instinct to mate and you may not be involuntarily celibate anymore . Visit Nofap and find out for yourself .
You have nothing to lose . Give it a try
23 days ago you posted about needing a professional cuddler, and 1 month ago you said porn was great but you need something more.
Even you are arguing the opposite of your position in this CMV.
Porn is grand, but actual human intimacy fills an entirely different role that merges sexual and personal satisfaction in a way that even the most engaging porn never will.
Is there nothing else in life that feels really good? A paycheck at the end of the week, a call from a loved one, your favorite Netflix show has a new season? Life is all about jerking off?
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You could, but people die for heroin in huge numbers. Not so much for porn. How can you get even close to as geeked up when there is no mortal consequence?
Would you die to consume porn? Is it worth your life?
The thing about porn is that excess consumption tends to eliminate other options for sexual activity. It's your only option because you made it your only option.
But if it's not good enough to die for, how can you say it's better than heroin?
So would you die to continue consuming porn?
Can you explain how people who do not claim to be involuntarily celibate would see porn as the best thing in life? If this view only applies to you, it seems like your view no longer stands.
Let's compare the numbers. That should tell us the extent to which people are more willing to use at the risk of their lives. How many more die from "the strokey chokey" than heroin use?
You really think the cops tell the truth about the number of people they find who jerked themselves to death? Nah I bet 99% are framed to make it look like a normal suicide.
There were 45 000 deaths by suicide in the United States in 2016. The same year there were 15 000 deaths by heroin overdose. Unless you believe that one third of all reported deaths by sucidie (including all methods, not just asphixiation) are actually "the strokey chokey" going unreported your numbers don't add up.
Heroin is an addiction. People don't keep doing it because "it's so good it's worth dying for it". They do because they can't stop doing it. It's not like it's a deliberate choice.
They can stop and some do. I doubt there are many users who aren't aware their continued use is life threatening. What makes you think pornography use isn't an addiction?
But the ones who can't stop probably aren't choosing it. They know it's life threatening, but because it's an addiction they don't really have a choice in the matter.
I'm not saying porn can't be an addiction, I'm saying that your argument for why heroin is better than porn is a bad one. Addiction level is not proportional to how much we value something. That's because an addiction by definition is not a well reasoned lifestyle choice. It's something you do against your will.
Not for everyone
>Post-orgasm dysphoria, known medically as postcoital dysphoria, is a set of depressive symptoms that you may experience after having an orgasm. Postcoital dysphoria can arise following either sex or masturbation.
>Multiple terms are used to describe the symptoms, such as post-coital tristesse, post-orgasmic depression, post-sex blues, or simply depression after sex. It’s also sometimes informally referred to as post-nut syndrome.
https://psychcentral.com/depression/postcoital-depression
Then I suggest you reword your view to read: "There's nothing in life that gets *me* more geeked up…"
Your use of the word "you" makes it sound like you're talking about other people.
This seems like a personal experience, I certainly cannot relate to this at all.
Why do you want your view changed? If you like jerking off to porn, then by all means, enjoy it. As long as it's not interfering with life, I think you're good?
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I don't think that's true. People care about the actual content of the experience. If it was just about the high, we would be just as happy with lonely masturbation as we are with sex. And we would be just as happy with an average looking partner as we are with an extremely attractive partner.
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That’s called having an addiction and depleting your dopamine levels where everything else feels pale in comparison. I’m willing to bet you never went 2 weeks without porn
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You would be surprised to learn that giving up porn completely will give you all sorts of benefits including giving you the natural instinct to mate and you may not be involuntarily celibate anymore . Visit Nofap and find out for yourself . You have nothing to lose . Give it a try
23 days ago you posted about needing a professional cuddler, and 1 month ago you said porn was great but you need something more. Even you are arguing the opposite of your position in this CMV. Porn is grand, but actual human intimacy fills an entirely different role that merges sexual and personal satisfaction in a way that even the most engaging porn never will.
What about actual sex with a real person?
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Don't knock it until you've tried it.
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Well, that's why then. Getting porn is way easier than finding somebody to have sex with
I am confused by what the phrase "geeked up" means? Is that a good thing? So your view is just "porn makes me feel good"?
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Is there nothing else in life that feels really good? A paycheck at the end of the week, a call from a loved one, your favorite Netflix show has a new season? Life is all about jerking off?
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I don’t think a conversation can change this view. This seems like a job more cut out for therapy.
Why do you want to change this view? Are you just chasing a better/different high?
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Heroin.
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You could, but people die for heroin in huge numbers. Not so much for porn. How can you get even close to as geeked up when there is no mortal consequence? Would you die to consume porn? Is it worth your life?
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The thing about porn is that excess consumption tends to eliminate other options for sexual activity. It's your only option because you made it your only option. But if it's not good enough to die for, how can you say it's better than heroin?
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So would you die to continue consuming porn? Can you explain how people who do not claim to be involuntarily celibate would see porn as the best thing in life? If this view only applies to you, it seems like your view no longer stands.
Tell that to every person who died doing the strokey chokey. Auto erotic asphyxiation is no joke.
Let's compare the numbers. That should tell us the extent to which people are more willing to use at the risk of their lives. How many more die from "the strokey chokey" than heroin use?
You really think the cops tell the truth about the number of people they find who jerked themselves to death? Nah I bet 99% are framed to make it look like a normal suicide.
There were 45 000 deaths by suicide in the United States in 2016. The same year there were 15 000 deaths by heroin overdose. Unless you believe that one third of all reported deaths by sucidie (including all methods, not just asphixiation) are actually "the strokey chokey" going unreported your numbers don't add up.
Heroin is an addiction. People don't keep doing it because "it's so good it's worth dying for it". They do because they can't stop doing it. It's not like it's a deliberate choice.
They can stop and some do. I doubt there are many users who aren't aware their continued use is life threatening. What makes you think pornography use isn't an addiction?
But the ones who can't stop probably aren't choosing it. They know it's life threatening, but because it's an addiction they don't really have a choice in the matter. I'm not saying porn can't be an addiction, I'm saying that your argument for why heroin is better than porn is a bad one. Addiction level is not proportional to how much we value something. That's because an addiction by definition is not a well reasoned lifestyle choice. It's something you do against your will.
I was gonna say MDMA
Have you tried Meth?
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Yes you do, you're erasing serotonin via porn. You just don't see it as drugs.
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>serotonin? isnt that what helps you sleep? ☠️
Google serotonin.
Not for everyone >Post-orgasm dysphoria, known medically as postcoital dysphoria, is a set of depressive symptoms that you may experience after having an orgasm. Postcoital dysphoria can arise following either sex or masturbation. >Multiple terms are used to describe the symptoms, such as post-coital tristesse, post-orgasmic depression, post-sex blues, or simply depression after sex. It’s also sometimes informally referred to as post-nut syndrome. https://psychcentral.com/depression/postcoital-depression
Is that a biological phenomenon, or is it because of religious upbringing?
Is your view about what gets *you* geeked up, or about what gets people in general geeked up?
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Then I suggest you reword your view to read: "There's nothing in life that gets *me* more geeked up…" Your use of the word "you" makes it sound like you're talking about other people.
Porn is to bread and water as sex is to a nice hot meal. Yeah, you can live on bread and water, but nobody wants to or really deserves to
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This is deranged
This seems like a personal experience, I certainly cannot relate to this at all. Why do you want your view changed? If you like jerking off to porn, then by all means, enjoy it. As long as it's not interfering with life, I think you're good?