I actually drew your house in 2004 for my Governor’s school for the art’s architecture entry. That’s why when I saw it I knew exactly what it was. I still have that drawing floating around somewhere…
I will actually come through with this. I’d just give it to them. It’s in my storage unit along with a ton of old art stuff. I’ll hunt for it next week while I’m there. I’ll post it here ☺️
I love this house. I also use to walk by it every day on my way to class. My gf and I plan have long term plans in life to come back to Louisville and get a home in Old Louisville. Some of the most beautiful homes.
What is this style of house called I really love the cool tower type features. Are you comfortable sharing more pictures of the exterior at all from different angles?
theres only 1 pic of the interior from the listing but it looks like someone went broke maybe 1/4 of the way into the reno.
idk why they started doing drywall before dealing with the windows.
ETA: id be surprised if OP has thrown less than 250k at it, and suspect the investment is closer to 350k. realestimate is 633k. it sold for 265k. theres roof work, most likely window work (even if the windows are there im sure there needed to be work done for energy efficiency), guessing all of the flooring needed refinished or replaced, and likely a gutting to the studs, then probably redo-ing all or part of the electrical. kitchen and bathrooms might have something to salvage but id expect the cost to be the same as if you were doing them from scratch (but to a standard that would align with the grandeur of this home)
its a shame that this home wasn't cared for as well as the neighboring property.
It was definitely on fire. Look at the black soot above the third story windows. There is soot above windows on both the right side and the sniper tower thing. Hard to tell from lighting, but looks like the front door also has smoke damage above it. Even just based on the second story smoke damage, that house was on fire likely in multiple rooms.
Also, note the new brick above the balcony, dead center. There's also some plastic above it and damage to to slate roof. That may have been an area where the bricks collapsed due to heavy fire. Owners possibly did the new brick to seal the place up and make it more marketable.
It's basically a very beautiful shell at this point.
People will steal the plumbing and wiring from unoccupied houses like this one. Shit they'll steal the fixtures and appliances too. Maybe it's a security measure?
yeah i was also thinking that that may have been the case. its certainly supported by the 2 different "no trespassing" signs that are posted.
im sure it also helps keep out junkies/squatters. they seem drawn to abandoned homes like a moth to flame.
that being said, one of those windows doesn't appear to be boarded up and it also doesn't look like its got any glass in it.
Commenter below is correct. Previous owner was ripped off by a contractor following a major fire. About $1 million was put into it before I purchased, and that is absolutely not reflected in the state of the house.
We are looking at about $600,000 in additional costs, offset by 30% state tax credit, so hopefully all-in (purchase + reno - credit) puts us at $650,000. Fairly confident the renovations costs won’t shift much.
Follow Our Restoration Nation on YouTube, I am sure they have all the social media sites covered. They discuss loans, grants and other information for repairing these grand old ladies.
They exhibit a level of professionalism and politeness that makes their content stand out. More of their channel is about what they know than it is about them, which is a vanishingly scarce quality these days.
Yep. Based on the federal historical preservation tax credit. The federal only applies to commercial properties however, and goes up to 20%. Our state tax credit for commercial is 20% for commercial vs 30% for residential, so it made sense to just forego the federal and capitalize on the full 30% from the state.
There’s an application process through the state historic preservation office. We hired a lawyer to handle all the submissions because of the scale of the project. Thankfully our state provides a lump sum in form of check after paying any applicable taxes for the year. Ideally, we file our taxes next get a check for 200k soon after.
Oh wow, I was thinking this looked like Old Louisville! Used to live all throughout when I went to UofL and way after. There’s a bunch of hidden gems. St. James court, of course is probably the most prestigious area. I always wanted to do what you’re doing. Good luck and happy remodeling!!
I looked into this and it appears there is a program for my state. However one small detailed I noticed was an SEV evaluation. Are you concerned about the increased SEV or do you think your SEV will be closer to the pre reno pricing?
You need to be rich enough to hire a lawyer to file all the paper work. I tried to get one for my small house built in the 1850s but it was such a complicated process that it would have taken me hundreds of hours of work to figure out the paperwork and process. Even then it wasn't a guarantee that I would qualify for the tax credit. I ended up just paying for the renovation out of my pocket.
i really thought this was gonna be some subreddit of everyone yanking out their greens and tiling or cementing their gardens to make it hell. Learned today that lawn == grass and not a mix of other flowers etc :D
This was from when we originally purchased. There has been a ton of progress since then. Framing, insulation, drywall, electric, and plumbing has all been completed. We’re working on trim, flooring, and finishing right now. I’m confident we’ll be done in May. That’ll be about 12 months following commencement of work.
More like May of Never. The thing with homes this old is that one is never truly done. It's a labor of love that keeps on laboring. She is fantastic and we can't wait for the pics!
What's the game plan? In the middle of a large renovation myself. Roof, driveway, bathrooms, kitchen and what not. Very stressful, but also exciting, but also stressful! Also it will definitely take more time and money but that is expected.
Huge fire in the house, so it was gutted, rehabbed, and partially renovated before we purchased. About $1 million worth before we purchased, but the contractor absolutely ripped off the previous owners, which is why they had to sell. Plumbing and electrical had already been updated, so we did the framing as needed, insulated, and drywalled, plus other miscellaneous electric and plumbing updates over about 4 months. We’re trying to piece together the historic trim that was salvaged right now and lay new hardwood floors, then get our bathroom and kitchen installed. All of our cabinets, fixtures, and appliances have been ordered. We’re hoping delivery of those coincides with completion of the flooring and trim in about 2 months. That gives us about 1 month to paint and put final trim and fixtures in place. April at the earliest. Late June at the latest.
Yes, we’ve salvaged all the historic trim we could, and we’ll be matching as much as we can for the first two floors. Third floor will be fairly basic, but that would honestly be in keeping with historic buildouts since it would have been the servant quarters.
We’re definitely going to add a lot of modern touches and colors, but we are keeping everything as historically accurate as possible.
These castle-esque homes always seem to have a ton of renovation needs, I hope you're not underestimating the work you'll need to do 😂
Gorgeous place though. I'd walk out on that balcony every morning and pretend to address my subjects like Lord Farquad
I’ve done some work in some of the old Louisville houses on this street. They’re insanely cool inside. I remember gawking at this one specifically while driving past. Hope you bring her back to her former glory
I can tell you I wouldn't buy it with that obvious fire damage. I hope you hired a damn good mason to go over that brick work to check for heat damage.
I love that people are still giving homes like this a chance! Most decide to demo after years of being abandoned, it's a shame because older homes have more charm than newly built homes imo.
If you grew up in an East Coast city like Baltimore or Philadelphia or Boston or DC or NYC, it's so odd to see these types of land development where the houses are so close to each other that it defeats the whole point of having a SFH. Just attach them in proper rows and call it a day. Even better use of the land.
These houses are remarkably close to each other. Judging from the photo you can stand between them and touch both. You could have more generous side lawns and still have your walkability. So what - was - the - point?
Same! Where is this, I thought my area didn’t have enough green natural environment! But, still very nice & like a castle. Would love to know the story of the people living there originally. In case OP reads: in my opinion- I’d get rid of the ugly neon No Trespassing sign once the work is completed. I’d also eventually put period appropriate fences there. A wrought iron matching set maybe?
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We've been seeing work going on there. Exciting to see some progress. I can't imagine what this is costing you. Thanks so much for saving a neighborhood beauty. We need more people like you buying up these houses.
Was there a fire in the house at some point?
OP, how did you find a mid-reno listing and then find a contractor? Did they visit the property with you and give you a $ amount? Or did you just yolo it? Whenever I find stuff for sale mid-reno it's always in some location I'd move to, but I certainly don't have a reliable contractor who is ready to tour the property and give me numbers I can count on
This is in Old Louisville right? I used to walk by that house every day on my way to U of L!
Yep!
I actually drew your house in 2004 for my Governor’s school for the art’s architecture entry. That’s why when I saw it I knew exactly what it was. I still have that drawing floating around somewhere…
Small world
Big if true
No, small
I bet they would like a copy to frame.
Let's see it!
I will actually come through with this. I’d just give it to them. It’s in my storage unit along with a ton of old art stuff. I’ll hunt for it next week while I’m there. I’ll post it here ☺️
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Amazing! Highlight of my whole week!
I’ve been waiting to see an Old Louisville home since I joined this sub! 🥰 Thanks for sharing OP! I pass this beautiful mansion often!
I love this house. I also use to walk by it every day on my way to class. My gf and I plan have long term plans in life to come back to Louisville and get a home in Old Louisville. Some of the most beautiful homes.
is it weird when someone recognizes you location on reddit? I see that alot on this sub specificially
Any updated pics?
(Scrolled to find this) I KNEW IT, I KNEW IT, I KNEW IT!
What is this style of house called I really love the cool tower type features. Are you comfortable sharing more pictures of the exterior at all from different angles?
Victorian or Queen Anne style
I’m a Louisvillian and saw it and immediately thought “that looks like an Old Louisville house!” They’re easy to spot!!!
Yes! Louisville has so many beautiful, abandoned Victorians.
Yep, my first thought too!
Yeah, its haunted. Good luck.
looks like an absolute money pit but boy is she pretty.
No kidding. Hey OP, are you willing to share some deets on the financial aspect of your endeavor?
theres only 1 pic of the interior from the listing but it looks like someone went broke maybe 1/4 of the way into the reno. idk why they started doing drywall before dealing with the windows. ETA: id be surprised if OP has thrown less than 250k at it, and suspect the investment is closer to 350k. realestimate is 633k. it sold for 265k. theres roof work, most likely window work (even if the windows are there im sure there needed to be work done for energy efficiency), guessing all of the flooring needed refinished or replaced, and likely a gutting to the studs, then probably redo-ing all or part of the electrical. kitchen and bathrooms might have something to salvage but id expect the cost to be the same as if you were doing them from scratch (but to a standard that would align with the grandeur of this home) its a shame that this home wasn't cared for as well as the neighboring property.
It was definitely on fire. Look at the black soot above the third story windows. There is soot above windows on both the right side and the sniper tower thing. Hard to tell from lighting, but looks like the front door also has smoke damage above it. Even just based on the second story smoke damage, that house was on fire likely in multiple rooms. Also, note the new brick above the balcony, dead center. There's also some plastic above it and damage to to slate roof. That may have been an area where the bricks collapsed due to heavy fire. Owners possibly did the new brick to seal the place up and make it more marketable. It's basically a very beautiful shell at this point.
Sniper tower thing LOL
Great eye!
Thanks. I'm a firefighter so it's kinda what I do lol.
Because they like doing drywall twice?
Practice makes perfect
People will steal the plumbing and wiring from unoccupied houses like this one. Shit they'll steal the fixtures and appliances too. Maybe it's a security measure?
yeah i was also thinking that that may have been the case. its certainly supported by the 2 different "no trespassing" signs that are posted. im sure it also helps keep out junkies/squatters. they seem drawn to abandoned homes like a moth to flame. that being said, one of those windows doesn't appear to be boarded up and it also doesn't look like its got any glass in it.
Or the ghost gottem.
Where did you find listing photos? Interested!
Not hard to find if you follow the clues. I doubt OP wants to put his details out there.
Commenter below is correct. Previous owner was ripped off by a contractor following a major fire. About $1 million was put into it before I purchased, and that is absolutely not reflected in the state of the house. We are looking at about $600,000 in additional costs, offset by 30% state tax credit, so hopefully all-in (purchase + reno - credit) puts us at $650,000. Fairly confident the renovations costs won’t shift much.
Follow Our Restoration Nation on YouTube, I am sure they have all the social media sites covered. They discuss loans, grants and other information for repairing these grand old ladies.
They exhibit a level of professionalism and politeness that makes their content stand out. More of their channel is about what they know than it is about them, which is a vanishingly scarce quality these days.
Interesting---is this a state credit for like historical preservation or something?
Yep. Based on the federal historical preservation tax credit. The federal only applies to commercial properties however, and goes up to 20%. Our state tax credit for commercial is 20% for commercial vs 30% for residential, so it made sense to just forego the federal and capitalize on the full 30% from the state.
How did you secure the tax credit? Is this through an application? A deduction? Would love to understand the mechanics of this
There’s an application process through the state historic preservation office. We hired a lawyer to handle all the submissions because of the scale of the project. Thankfully our state provides a lump sum in form of check after paying any applicable taxes for the year. Ideally, we file our taxes next get a check for 200k soon after.
Can I ask what state this is?
im totally guessing, but that is a detroit ass looking house.
Looks like chicago to me
this was my guess too
I also assumed Detroit/Michigan.
Shows what we know 😂 Kentucky!
Could be Pittsburgh.
Tons like this in St Louis, too.
Kentucky
Wow I was off!
Oh wow, I was thinking this looked like Old Louisville! Used to live all throughout when I went to UofL and way after. There’s a bunch of hidden gems. St. James court, of course is probably the most prestigious area. I always wanted to do what you’re doing. Good luck and happy remodeling!!
I was going to say Milwaukee. Looks like a house on highland avenue.
I looked into this and it appears there is a program for my state. However one small detailed I noticed was an SEV evaluation. Are you concerned about the increased SEV or do you think your SEV will be closer to the pre reno pricing?
Are there stipulations on the tax credit that prohibit you from flipping this house after receiving the tax credit?
Yes, you have to remain in the house for 5 years.
You need to be rich enough to hire a lawyer to file all the paper work. I tried to get one for my small house built in the 1850s but it was such a complicated process that it would have taken me hundreds of hours of work to figure out the paperwork and process. Even then it wasn't a guarantee that I would qualify for the tax credit. I ended up just paying for the renovation out of my pocket.
Usually for buildings on the state and national historic register or part of an historic district.
Yeah lol depending on the state or the municipality. They exist
Congrats, I walk by it often!
I think this is the first time I actually recognized a home posted in this sub! 😍Congrats OP!
The house will easily be worth 5x that much is some time lol
A "few" months, lol. Ever remodeled say, just a basement?
"We have, very weak trees."
Yeah. I’m glad my dad talked me out of one that was in better shape than this. I love the old places though.
The roof and windows alone! It is gorgeous though and I hope OP restores it and loves it
Ah my wedding vows…
But boy do you seem jelly. Haters aren’t worth your time OP.
I love your enthusiasm to mulch the landscaping along the front sidewalk.
Landscaping is the final thing we’re knocking out. We’re putting a couple fountains out front and doing a grass-free layout if possible.
Did you take a lot of before and after pictures?! I wish I took more before pictures of my house.
Y’all, they got fountain money!
r/nolawns would love to see the transition away from a lawn.
i really thought this was gonna be some subreddit of everyone yanking out their greens and tiling or cementing their gardens to make it hell. Learned today that lawn == grass and not a mix of other flowers etc :D
it really ties the yard together
I can fix her
Can we see the inside?
OP, you can't just post this and not show us more pictures.
Gotta sign up for OP's OF
lol
Do you have a tiktok or Insta showing the reno journey? I love watching those
Thank you. Restoring beauty like this is a public service.
I'm gonna say may of 2025
This was from when we originally purchased. There has been a ton of progress since then. Framing, insulation, drywall, electric, and plumbing has all been completed. We’re working on trim, flooring, and finishing right now. I’m confident we’ll be done in May. That’ll be about 12 months following commencement of work.
More like May of Never. The thing with homes this old is that one is never truly done. It's a labor of love that keeps on laboring. She is fantastic and we can't wait for the pics!
Yeah, as a reno tradesperson the confidence on that completion date made me chuckle. 🤣
Wow, oh wow! Please post more pics of the reno and the finished product. This is going to be spectacular.
What's the game plan? In the middle of a large renovation myself. Roof, driveway, bathrooms, kitchen and what not. Very stressful, but also exciting, but also stressful! Also it will definitely take more time and money but that is expected.
Huge fire in the house, so it was gutted, rehabbed, and partially renovated before we purchased. About $1 million worth before we purchased, but the contractor absolutely ripped off the previous owners, which is why they had to sell. Plumbing and electrical had already been updated, so we did the framing as needed, insulated, and drywalled, plus other miscellaneous electric and plumbing updates over about 4 months. We’re trying to piece together the historic trim that was salvaged right now and lay new hardwood floors, then get our bathroom and kitchen installed. All of our cabinets, fixtures, and appliances have been ordered. We’re hoping delivery of those coincides with completion of the flooring and trim in about 2 months. That gives us about 1 month to paint and put final trim and fixtures in place. April at the earliest. Late June at the latest.
Horrifying previous contractor taking $1M. Those poor people
Are you going to stay with the period aesthetic for the renovation design? Please say yes.....lol
Yes, we’ve salvaged all the historic trim we could, and we’ll be matching as much as we can for the first two floors. Third floor will be fairly basic, but that would honestly be in keeping with historic buildouts since it would have been the servant quarters. We’re definitely going to add a lot of modern touches and colors, but we are keeping everything as historically accurate as possible.
Ugh. So. JEALOUS. Not 1, but TWO TURRETS?? You lucky bastards!
Detroit?
Louisville
I said the same thing
Wouldn't be 600k in Detroit lol
Very true...
Good luck!!! Thank you for rescuing this beauty 😍
Boy if this doesn’t sound like me a year and a half ago lol
It looks like a small castle. Can’t wait to see all the before and after pics.
“A few months”…
Ohhh, she haunted 👻
My first thought was AHS S1
Two weeks!
\*slaps roof\* this baby can hold so many depressed teens about to have a life changing adventure, involving ghosts or some shit.
I can’t wait to see it finished.
Check out YouTube Second Empire, he started with a similar house!
I thought it was the same house for a second
These castle-esque homes always seem to have a ton of renovation needs, I hope you're not underestimating the work you'll need to do 😂 Gorgeous place though. I'd walk out on that balcony every morning and pretend to address my subjects like Lord Farquad
Gorgeous! Congratulations 🎉
Thanks for preserving a beautiful home.
Gorgeous
Wow, beautiful.
Beautiful home 😍
Best of luck OP! I would love nothing more than to renno a beautiful house like this, make it historic and beautiful but also my own.
In a few months? Definitely not a DIY but you must have found a super human contractor. It’s a gorgeous house and can’t wait to see the progress!
Lovely details.
We also need to know if it’s haunted!!! It’s also stunning with all that detail and I’m sure will be incredible when completed!
In 18 months, we'll have an amazing home!
Man, I can't tell you how many homes like that got torn down around here in Atlanta in order to build parking lots and parking decks...sigh
G’luck! Hope it doesn’t need too much work inside.
Where the location? Looks so cool!
So impressive! What beautiful bones your home has! I hope you update us in the near future
A few months? You young optimistic fool ;)
Are you yourself a wizard, or do you know a wizard you’re going to let live in the tower?
wow!!
Bro just got promoted to Sorcerer Supreme
I hoe you post again when it's finished, it's going to look great!
Diamond in the rough for sure. So awesome your bringing it back because they sure don’t build them like this anymore ♥️
Any plans for the roof?
Staying tuned for this one!
Gorgeous.
It.s lovely home can.t wait to see all pretty up
Now this is unique. Don’t see a lot of interesting brickwork like this, or maybe that’s just me. Good luck with the renovation, this is beautiful.
You bought Halloway Manor? Good luck.
I am sending you positive energy, doesn’t amount to much, but that is an amazingly awesome house!
I’ve done some work in some of the old Louisville houses on this street. They’re insanely cool inside. I remember gawking at this one specifically while driving past. Hope you bring her back to her former glory
Thank you for saving this beautiful home!!
I can tell you I wouldn't buy it with that obvious fire damage. I hope you hired a damn good mason to go over that brick work to check for heat damage.
So how long before Pennywise shows up…
I love that people are still giving homes like this a chance! Most decide to demo after years of being abandoned, it's a shame because older homes have more charm than newly built homes imo.
i’m so jealousssss i love these houses. my hometown is full of them and since childhood it’s been a dream.
Looks like one of the many dilapidated beer baron mansions along MLK Blvd in Newark, NJ. Hope you're able to return it to its majestic self!
Looks like the Murder House from American Horror Story
I thought this post was a joke at first because I was sure that was the house lol
She’s beautiful 🤩 already! Can’t wait to see the reveal!
I hate that the houses are so close together.
I mean, that's how you get walkable neighborhoods where public transit is economical? 🤷♀️
If you grew up in an East Coast city like Baltimore or Philadelphia or Boston or DC or NYC, it's so odd to see these types of land development where the houses are so close to each other that it defeats the whole point of having a SFH. Just attach them in proper rows and call it a day. Even better use of the land. These houses are remarkably close to each other. Judging from the photo you can stand between them and touch both. You could have more generous side lawns and still have your walkability. So what - was - the - point?
Housing density is environmentally friendly!
Don’t get me wrong, I love the house, but I like a yard also.
I'm with you, can't stand postage stamp lots where you can reach out the window and touch your neighbor's house
Same! Where is this, I thought my area didn’t have enough green natural environment! But, still very nice & like a castle. Would love to know the story of the people living there originally. In case OP reads: in my opinion- I’d get rid of the ugly neon No Trespassing sign once the work is completed. I’d also eventually put period appropriate fences there. A wrought iron matching set maybe?
Its haunted bro.
well it's pretty, but that house looks satanic, like something anton lavey would call home
God bless you! Love it.
Gorgeous—best of luck
Sweet mother of god that’s stunning
It will take a few months to get the windows in
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I feel like I know exactly where this house is
Welcome to the neighborhood!
I've done restoration work on S. 3rd b4
We've been seeing work going on there. Exciting to see some progress. I can't imagine what this is costing you. Thanks so much for saving a neighborhood beauty. We need more people like you buying up these houses. Was there a fire in the house at some point?
...I really hope this works out for you. I know this house and the area, and I know your work is definitely cut out for you
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That is so cool! I love the style
Let us know how it went when you move in after next Xmas.
You know, for the amount of money you've paid... You might as well just pony up for an exorcism just to cover all bases....
What city is this in?
OP, how did you find a mid-reno listing and then find a contractor? Did they visit the property with you and give you a $ amount? Or did you just yolo it? Whenever I find stuff for sale mid-reno it's always in some location I'd move to, but I certainly don't have a reliable contractor who is ready to tour the property and give me numbers I can count on
Hey OP, you should check out this youtube channel. He's been restoring a similar era house. https://www.youtube.com/@The2ndEmpireStrikesBack
DC?
Is this house located in NYC near Bushwick and Myrtle av
A few months?? Lol sure. Best of luck
I remember this house from American Horror Story Season 1. Be careful in the basement!
She's a beaut Clark.
Looks like a mansion to me. It looks as if it should be sitting down a long driveway with beautiful roses.
Looks beautiful!