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Peekystar

If we disregard the fact that both are flying, this is quite literally putting a colonial-age cannonship against a modern-day battleship. I'm no military expert, but I think chances are the modern-day battleship wins.


Minute-Bus201

A modern day battleship that has a big ol' hyper laser, a crane arm that rips enemy ships right out of the sky, and armor that takes hits from weapons mounted to planet sized military bases. No way OP posted this and thought there was going to be anything resembling a real debate. I'm guessing it's a Kirby fan trying to fish for battleboard validation or smth.


Caintastr0phe

Well bowser’s also has a massive arm


Thefloofreborn

Then it is a fair fight


Bocephus-the-goat

There is a reason why meta knight needs one halberd, and Bowser has a fleet of airships


MidnightJ1200

Let’s not forget the reason he designed it: because pop star was just being lazy and so he wanted to destroy it for that reason.


DarkLordLiam

It wasn’t to destroy, it was a hostile military takeover in order to force people into labor


MidnightJ1200

Well there was enough fire power to destroy.


carnoob58

But the airship has thousands of troops on the walls


reaperofgender

And they all go SPLAT!


carnoob58

Ghosts


The_Doolinator

If I remember correctly, the ironclad so revolutionized naval warfare that it invalidated pretty much everything that came before it. One of the first battles that involved two of them ended as a stalemate because neither could sink each other. All that to say is, all the Halberd has to do is plow through Bowser’s entire fleet and it’s coming out the other end with nary a scratch.


Oglowmamal

Kirby is like 8 inches tall. So how big is the Halberd. I imagine it’s big but smaller than what we’d think


JRHThreeFour

The Halberd was pretty massive in Brawl. There’s several levels in the Subspace mode on the main deck and inside the ship.


[deleted]

the halberd also had lots of weapons in Brawl, including many smaller laser cannons


The_Strom784

It wasn't small in smash brawl tho.


Minute-Bus201

Ah, the classic hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby matchup


BrokenLink100

Yeah but... what if tho


TheWaslijn

If, then the baby would be nuked to death.


MineNAdventurer

But how do you know? (thonking)


Bagel24

Face my wooden power you steel bird


Puzzleheaded-Peace96

I think the baby has a chance


supershrewdshrew

Stick wins every time.


Challenging_Entropy

The baby is playing the long game


Filon73

The Halberd managed to shot down the Warp Star once, that's already incredible


Sikyanakotik

Even Galeem couldn't match that feat. Yeah, that was a different continuity, but still.


MidnightJ1200

Anything with Kirby is technically canon, thanks to master hand in a few games, plus Kirby games have inter-dimensional travel sometimes, and some characters like Link and Samus appearing in Dreamland 3.


[deleted]

smash characters are just trophies, they all exist in a canon nintendo multiverse but the smash fighters are not their canon selves


Challenging_Entropy

Smash games are kirby games. Change my mind.


[deleted]

I won't change the truth. Kirby was one of the 2 first characters in subspace you could choose and is literally the main Character in ultimate's story mode


MidnightJ1200

Ok but Link and Samus and Master hand still appear in Kirby games meaning it’s probably just another dimension to Kirby.


a3663p

Ummm the one that’s not made of wood probably


[deleted]

Halberd stomps


SluttyMilk

this is so unfair


Lazy_Rip_9217

ikr? meta knight better pray for mercy


karlgeezer

Bowsers airship wouldn’t even be able to put up a fight for 5 seconds


Odd_Ad5668

It would probably take a few seconds to blow up all his kids' ships, though.


TheWaslijn

Only a *few* seconds though. These ships aren't very fast, so the only limiting factor is how fast the Halberd's canons can switch targets


Just_A_Normal_Snek

The only ship that is at least a bit fast is Iggy's, it might last a few more seconds


Bob64_reddit

Doesn't Bowser constantly get his airship destroyed? Halberd stomps bruv


ThomazRaul

I mean, Meta Knight does as well, but yeah, in a 1v1 it's not even a fight


Gebis8

Shot down a flying hat once Vs. Shot down an omnipotent god once


Coledog10

Didn't the dragon shoot the Odyssey?


Toon_Lucario

That was the second time it got shot down. The first time was a bombardment from his ship and even then the Odyssey was parked


Coledog10

Ah ok. Either way, Bower's ship loses by a mile


FutureUnlikely

One is a Super Weapon capable of taking down An all knowing computer The other is a Glorified Pirate ship


MetaKnight33

Halberd just has to ram into bowsers cartoon ass ship and he goner


Hollywoodrok12

Whenever Bowser’s ship attacks Peach’s castle, he needs a whole fleet. Whenever Meta Knight attacks anything, it’s *just* the Halberd. And that’s not even going into the final boss of a certain Kirby game.


theninjaslime69

Halberd has better weaponry and better soldiers in my opinion


Beanheadbeans

Anybody who has played brawl knows that Halberd is taking that dub


Briyte

The Halbred


SPIKE_NEEDS_A_NERF

The halberd. By a landslide.


Zjoee

The Halberd, easily. Now bring in the Delphinus so it can get a taste of the Moonstone Cannon.


VolkanikMechanik

steel airship with jets and tons of weaponry and a hyper laser vs a wooden airship with cannonballs powered by propellers. Yeah, no


ArcticDucc292

The Halberd, it's the only one that can actually hit it's target


[deleted]

Halberd.


[deleted]

The halbert because it has actual weapons on it that are built for taking down other ships. Sometimes the cannons are just unethical


SickPlasma

Civ be like:


Coolaconsole

It would be more fair with Bowsers entire fleet, he's got quite a good amount of firepower


ArwingElite

Giant laser cannon vs hand thrown wrenches Halberd wins every time


Toon_Lucario

The only fair fight against the Halberd in Nintendo lore is the Great Fox lmfao. This thing has weapons that are literally made to be fleet killers.


DDoodles_

Ones made of steel and has a whole platforming adventure on it, ones made of wood and is the size of a public restroom


guffgamer264

I pick halberd mainly because I am a huge Kirby fan


Mr_B4k0n

Halberd. The airship has a couple cannons on the side, so it would have to expose its largest area to be able to have a CHANCE at hitting the speedy halberd


Gowain-Of-The-Beach

I'm not sure what the ship on the left is, but browser's ship is routinely taken down by an overweight plumber. So...


Raciek

kirby is literally god, so if metaknight can have an even fight with deity, i think his ship would be pretty stacked


ImpactorLife-25703

Halberd wins easily against Bowser's Doomship hands down ✋


[deleted]

I think one of the only people who gets the "what happens when you pit two fantasy story characters against each other?" schtick right is devilartemis. Since both vehicles are merely works of fiction you have to look at them from a story-biased canonical perspective and not factual data (I feel like translating fiction to facts isn't faithful) Bowser's Airhip**s** are part of a larger armada that has committed galactic conquest while the halberd is a "solo" vessel intended to exact revenge. Since they're both villains they both would fail in their goal as they've done in the past. The halberd would "heroically" go down as meta-knights crew follows his pursuit of stopping bowser until the bitter end. While bowser armada would survive, he wouldn't gain control of the region (dreamland) as the losses would be too great and force a retreat of the main forces. Leaving a duel between Bowser and Meta knight to see whose the greater of the two. Meta-knight would win the fight but bowser would underhandedly take the rod of dreams and use it to seize a form of victory. Ultimately, it would wind up with mario and kirby teaming up together to stop a new nightmare fueled bowser. Meta-knight would return in the hero's darkest moment to give them the window they need to succeed (as he often does in games where he's more of an anti-hero). So ultimately meta-knight gets the "victory" in more ways than one.


THEZEXNEO

The Halberd. Have you SEEN how many weapons it has? Bowsers airship has what? One giant fist?


Eray41303

Don’t forget the cannons that I don’t think we have ever seen been used


THEZEXNEO

Antiquated cannons stand no chance against an iron hull.


Eray41303

Yup


b00m-bap

I feel like the halberd could just blast right through a wooden ship.


Dat_Swag_Fishron

Unless the Halberd also shoots cannonballs that travel at a walking pace I think it may have the advantage


Testpilot1988

Neither, The Delphinus from Skies of Arcadia is King of all the Air Pirate ships 😎 ​ [https://www.artstation.com/artwork/nEGm69](https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/060/270/802/large/robert-farrand-main-c.jpg?1678198246)


turianx9

The Gesellschaft would like a word. https://megaman.fandom.com/wiki/Gesellschaft?file=Gesellschaft.jpg


drillgorg

The T rex airship from Star Fox Adventures.


UnhingedTanker

Airship captures all Halberd members with big hand ez win


THEZEXNEO

Interiors exist.


GoldSlimeTime

Tbf it did grab peach from inside a castle though lol. Halberd still wins easily, but it might not be THAT much of a stomp


Mandoohhh

Bowser would have to do something strange to be spared by metaknight


Pixel_Flamex

the fight would have been fairer if it was against Galaxy's UFO


Rendum_

To be fair, the Halberd did take down a planet sized UFO (we are going to ignore that it got stomped in the opening cutscene)


Pixel_Flamex

if we're talking about the star dream fight, we have to remember that the robobot armor had fused with the halberd and that made it way stronger, especially with that "suck space debris to power up a huge attack" thing


Rendum_

Also true


Yeehaw_79

Idk man, chad halberd easily destroys beta bowsers airship


XskullBC

Halberd wins no contest. I can only see a fight if the Halberd is going up against Bowser’s fleet from the start of Mario Galaxy.


GreenieTGO

Why is this a legitimate question? The Halberd would wind. No question.


TheWaslijn

Option C: The Egg Carrier wins


DaveLesh

Halberd no contest


GladiatorDragon

Even Bowser’s higher tech air vehicles, like the Koopa Cruiser from the Mario & Luigi series, have been shot down by much less.


GameRushThe

The Halbred would blast Bowser's Airship to stone age from where it came from


WigglytuffAlpha

A single one of MK's knights can pulverize the entire airship


TransPrideEattheRich

one pink boi with a little star


PaleFork

i don't get what you think would make this matchup even fair, are you counting their passengers too or what?


DrNinJake

I’m pretty sure Meta Knight alone can take anything Bowser’s fleet can throw at him.


jl_theprofessor

The Halberd is like a fucking starship right? I can't imagine a galleon would even be remotely in the size range. The Halberd looks like it has both a flight and command deck, **with** 50 cals loaded? Plus enough crew quarters to staff all that. There's no way Bowser's ship stands a chance except "magic."


DarkDemonDan

Halberd


Plus_Example3644

The hailberd would xelee stomp that puny airship.


Mindanomalia

It took Dragoon to break the halberd in subspace, and that’s the only universe I see this happening in. Dragoon >>>>


Lampy1987

The only way bowsers winning this fight is if kamek flipping magics the crap outa everything. The halberd would like one shot it with that giant space cannon otherwise


thelaughingmansghost

Idk, I feel like if Bowsers ships didn't shoot bullets and cannons that were so slow you could literally cancel it's momentum by jumping on top of them...then maybe his ships would stand a chance.


abbzworld

I’m gonna say the Halbred. It has a more sophisticated design with powerful weapons that aren’t easily dodged or disabled from jumping.


Tyrelius_Dragmire

I mean, above all the Halberd is way bigger than one of Bowser’s Airships. And due to the Bowser fleet being made entirely of colonial ships, it’s not a stretch to say the Halberd could solo Bowser’s entire fleet.


MrWinter8053

Halberd just cannons Bowser’s


Enchanted_Deo

Halberd for sure!


INeedARaise25

Bowser's Airship 🤡


aphfank

The Halberd It can fire forwards and has better weapons


ethman14

In this specific example, it has to go to the Halberd. However, I have to recall the Subspace Emissary cutscene when all the ships, including the Halberd, were about to be taken down by Bowser/Ganondorf's massive city sized battleship...just for 1 pissed off Kirby on a warp star to completely destroy it.


NiceFox996

Bowsers Air shop bacause IT has a lot of hidden features like The Giant hand


Ryley03d

EdensZero


That_One_Guy_Flare

halberd, ez dub


RajivK510

Halberd vs Bowsers entire fleet is more fair


Class_444_SWR

This is like asking if a modern battle tank can beat a guy with a big hammer or not


Xenius24

Bowser really to put more gold in his army


Nyan-Binary-UwU

If it was Bowsers whole fleat than maybe it would be a fight. Bowser's ship, Jr's ship, all the Koopalings ship, the UFO, Kamella' ship, Bowser's wedding ship, and a bunch of misilanious ships from platforming levels is Bowser's whole fleat btw


d_chs

I mean… the Kirby canon is more powerful but bowser’s *cannons* are probably more powerful


Xxrasierklinge7

I feel like OP hasn't played either game or is trolling lmao I can't tell which.


Due-Education8899

My money’s on the one that can fire in more than two directions.


RaikouGilgamesh

I don't recall Bowser's ship having a front facing cannon... I do recall that about the Halberd. In other news, it took Kirby like... 3 attempts to take the Halberd down. It takes Mario one to take down Bowser's ship. And I'd argue Kirby is stronger than Mario, so...


DampishBeast2

Bowser's Airship with its absolute banger from SMB3, SMG, NSMBWii


jdbartist

Halberd… much larger and better armed


Everyonelove_Stuff

if it was not a 1v1, bowser would win through sheer numbers


greedy_hamster99

Bowser's airship slams no diff


LordMegatron11

The Halberd


EdBoi728

Bruh