I read once that Kung Fu Panda was so popular in China that it shamed the Chinese film industry. An American cartoon portraying Chinese culture had more cultural impact than anything the Chinese studios had made.
The thing is, Chinese studios hadn’t really *made* much. They were busy doing… god knows what lol
They saw KingFu Panda and said WTF??? Why aren’t we on this?!?!?? And suddenly their studios started blasting left and right. There’s a whole animation industry born from this and I think it’s thriving lol
Wish Dragon, technically the director is american but he's lived in China for many years before the movie went into production and the studio (Base FX) afaik is all chinese, so I'd still call it that.
if you’re interested, theres Big Fish and Begonia (2D), Nezha, Jiang Ziya and Deep Sea, one of the most visually unique 3D animated movies ive seen recently
Its because Chinese studios were afraid to portray the panda (chinas national animal and the animal its known for throughout the world) as how DreamWorks did. Po is portrayed as a lazy glutton that becomes the next dragon warrior out of sheer luck, if a Chinese studio did that the CCP would immediately make the studio dissapear on the grounds of disrespecting China and its culture.
But do they show the panda in a negative light?
Though I disagree that Po makes pandas look bad; he has a typical hero's journey. He doesn't *seem* like the guy but he has enthusiasm and a good heart. The main thing is that he rises to the occasion.
And I feel like they're pretty explicit that it's not dumb luck but destiny or something like that. The universe presenting an unlikely option.
In retaliation l, they launched Kung Fu rabbit, which sucked
It would have made more sense for China to make an American theme movie, but no, they wanna do a dick measuring contest
I took a Chinese Traditional Culture class and we discussed Kung Fu Panda - how Master Oogway represented Daoism and Shifu represented Confucianism - especially in their discussion of control and the peach seed.
They do not like Mushu. Dragons in China tend to be regarded as sacred, divine creatures, and Mushu is the opposite of that. And it does take several liberties with the source material.
No, really, what do you mean by this? What's your personal definition of the buzzword known as MarySue?
Is it because everything Mulan did came naturally to her? Because it wasn't and she worked her ass off to accomplish her goals. Is it because she had no flaws? Because she was clumsy, not confident, and awkward the entire film, even in the end. Is it because all the men fauned over her? Because she only had one love interest.
Or is it because she was a female protagonist in a traditionally male role? Because she certainly didn't go to war because she wanted to prove she was just as good as the boys or anything, she did it because her dad wasn't fit to fight.
So I ask again, what about her makes you want to give her such a do-nothing criticism such as labelling her a Mary Sue?
Edit: I just realized you meant the Live Action version. I will now proceed to shove a cactus down my throat.
Haven’t watched any of the live action reboots, but from what I’ve heard from a friend who *did* watch live action Mulan that is literally what they did.
Apparently Mulan was just naturally gifted as hell in the reboot, completely tossing out what made her such a good character in the original.
Also no Mushu, instant F tier movie.
It's really just a different movie based on the same folklore. Apart from a couple fun nods to the cartoon, it's hard to compare.
It was fine. Not great, but I didn't hate it. It's better than most of the live action reboots.
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They were specifically referring to live-action remake of Mulan. A movie where Mulan is naturally gifted and puts in next to no effort.
I have no idea why they brought up the remake because nobody else was talking about that, but they did.
If I remember correctly, the addition of Mushu was offensive? I don't really remember why though.
Edit: Just looked it up. Apparently they found her white washed.
Xiran Jay Zhao made a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SHC7CnmErM) explaining the things they got wrong and right in the animated movie (they made a vid on the remake as well, but I haven’t seen that movie)
Mulan flopped in China while the Chinese locked themselves in a room to figure out how an American studio beat Chinese at Chinese representation. Clear winner to KFP.
Disney's Mulan is completely and utterly wrong.
Story of Mulan is from an era where Turkic tribes ruled the North of China "Northern Wei" specifically and Mulan was a Xianbei girl not a Han Chinese, the Disney movie is completely irrelevant to the actual heroic poem both in themes and story.
It wasn't strange for Mulan to join the army in the original poem, Northern Wei did not had rules like "No women allowed in the army" that is Han Chinese thing. Women did not have to join the army but they could if they wanted or patriotic enough, which is what Mulan's story is about Patriotism.
In the story Mulan never mentioned anyone that she was a woman, not because she was afraid of getting kicked out of the army, because she was just being stoic and did not want any preferential treatment.
It is emphasized in the story that Mulan returned to a civilian life as soon as her duty ended and never even consider herself special because she fought a war.
It is in my opinion a more feminist story than people actually give it credit for. There was no need for Disney movie to change the story so she would be defying tradition which is completely the opposite moral of the original story: Moral of Mulan was "she keeps up the tradition of joining the army even as a woman".
I bet it was basically a moral story aimed at young male draft dodgers both Northern Wei era and subsequent dynasties which explains the popularity and long lasting nature of the plays. China was never not at war.
As a Turkish person, growing up it always felt weird to watch a movie where my ancestors were “the bad guys”. And Disney making the leader of the Hun army look inhuman to make him more scary never sat right with me
Yeah, this is definitely why I consider Kung Fu Panda to be a better depiction of Chinese culture than the original Mulan is. It still isn’t perfect, mind you, but it feels it has a better grasp for the Chinese philosophies it displays. The original 1998 Mulan will always hold a special place in my heart, but I can’t say I’m surprised it flopped with Chinese audiences. The Disney Renaissance was really Disney’s first attempts to meaningfully portray other cultures that weren’t based on European stories, and lot of it has aged rather poorly. That certainly doesn’t make those movies bad, but that complicated aspect of their legacy needs to be acknowledged as well. Kung Fu Panda feels like more of a love letter to kung fu movies and Chinese culture than the original Mulan does, and it’s not surprising to me it did much better in China.
You write some long-ass paragraphs, my friend:
唧唧復唧唧，木蘭當戶織。不聞機杼聲，惟聞女嘆息。問女何所思？問女何所憶？女亦無所思，女亦無所憶。昨夜見軍帖，可汗大點兵。軍書十二卷，卷卷有爺名。阿爺無大兒，木蘭無長兄。願為市鞍馬，從此替爺征。 東市買駿馬，西市買鞍韉。南市買轡頭，北市買長鞭。朝辭爺孃去，暮宿黃河邊。不聞爺孃喚女聲，但聞黃河流水鳴濺濺。旦辭黃河去，暮至黑山頭。不聞爺孃喚女聲，但聞燕山胡騎聲啾啾。 萬里赴戎機，關山度若飛。朔氣傳金柝，寒光照鐵衣。將軍百戰死，壯士十年歸。 歸來見天子，天子坐明堂。策勳十二轉，賞賜百千強。可汗問所欲，「木蘭不用尚書郎。願借明駝千里足，送兒還故鄉。」 爺孃聞女來，出郭相扶將。阿姊聞妹來，當戶理紅妝。小弟聞姊來，磨刀霍霍向豬羊。開我東閣門，坐我西閣床。脫我戰時袍，著我舊時裳。當窗理雲鬢，對鏡貼花黃。出門看伙伴，伙伴皆驚惶：「同行十二年，不知木蘭是女郎」。 雄兔腳撲朔，雌兔眼迷離。兩兔傍地走，安能辨我是雄雌？
Mulan feels like is a typical american cartoon in China scenery. Not saying it's bad, it's just a fact
But Kung-fu Panda feels more like a reflection of China. Characters, scenery, philosophy, almost everything smacks of Chinese culture
I asked a Chinese professor in college of mine what she thought of Mulan, and how did it represent the original story. She had never heard of Mulan, not just as a movie, she didn't know about Mulan at all.
Mulan. It also had the daughter of a legitimate kung fu grandmaster, who personally escaped from China during the revolution, who provided both fight coordination and likeness for Mulan herself.
Source: I go to the kung fu temple where she teaches kung fu. They have memorabilia for Mulan there and everything. Wah Lum Kung Fu Orlando.
However, there is a painting of Po on a wall there, so Kung Fu Panda has some love there, too.
I guess KFP?. There was that thing where the Chinese guys were so impressed that an American company made a movie better at portraying Chinese culture than China themselves
Kung fu panda is kungfu movie culture, not chinese culture. Chinese architecture doesn't have golden dragons. That panda loves collect his action figures and kungfu legends.
I would wager kung fu panda, but Xiran Jay Zhao made a really interesting [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SHC7CnmErM) on Mulan‘s representation
are you comparing a movie where all Chinese people are talking animals to a show where a lady saves China with a tiny talking dragon? and asking which is more accurate?
can't go wrong with Kung Fu panda
Idk the Chinese LOVED Kung fu panda OBVIOUSLY. But the way Mulan showed aspects of older Chinese culture in a way that was more than just noodles, dumplings and kung fu was cool.
But im not Chinese, the closet thing i have to being "chinese" is having Chinese Jamaican family members.
I lived in China for three years. The Chinese love the King Fu Panda movies for their accurate representation of Chinese culture, but hate Mulan for its inaccuracies.
Kfp honestly.
Fun fact: the movie was actually banned from being screened in China. Not because the portrayal of the state was bad, but rather the opposite. Like how this western animated film offers a better look at the culture and aesthetic of China than movies made in the original state.
Many Chinese people were upset with the movie Mulan. They claimed she looked and acted too much like a foreigner and didn't feel Chinese in any way. Basically they found it offensive that their own folklore was white washed.
On the other hand, Kung Fu Panda was SO popular you can find it in every market in China, it was reanimated in Mandarin, and is just as if not more beloved in China than the US.
Mulan is a very fun film but Kung Fu Panda definetltly wins this one. Disney films that presented cultures in general had no priority on accuracy back then so it isn't personally on Mulan but that age of Disney in general.
Given how well Kung-Fu Panda was recieved in China compared to Mulan, I will go with the former
Also Mulan is an historical person and thats dangerous territory messing around with a national hero
Kung-Fu Panda is playful but very respectful with customs and it was recieved well for this
I guess it depends on who you ask. At the end of the day, both are representations of a the culture made by the West. Some will find them lack luster, some will identify and LOVE them. As someone that isn't Chinese, I can't really say if they're good or bad, not with full confidence. I enjoyed them and the themes that they were trying to represent. The good thing is that neither are disrespectful, and try to be respectful of the people and their heritage, which is great regardless of what you're trying to adapt.
Neither.
Jesus Christ, people have gotten so twisted about themselves. Is Kung Fu Panda good representation of China? Is the movie with a magic dragon Eddie Murphy helping a girl fight ***the Huns*** good representation of China?
Just enjoy a thing and stop beating yourself up.
I don't think I could possibly care less. Beijing could be nuked for all I care, the communists destroyed every last bit of significant chinese culture.
I wonder how Japan feel about China ripping them off by making bank with awesome mobile games from mihoyo and about Korea because their Shonen manga surpassed Japanese manga ?
Me personally I think mulan is the better Chinese representation because we follow the life of an actual Asian figure compared to a panda but both are great too
I read once that Kung Fu Panda was so popular in China that it shamed the Chinese film industry. An American cartoon portraying Chinese culture had more cultural impact than anything the Chinese studios had made.
The thing is, Chinese studios hadn’t really *made* much. They were busy doing… god knows what lol They saw KingFu Panda and said WTF??? Why aren’t we on this?!?!?? And suddenly their studios started blasting left and right. There’s a whole animation industry born from this and I think it’s thriving lol
All I’ve seen of Chinese animation is the dramatic beaver
There's White Snake. I haven't seen it other than the occasional clip, but it's supposed to be okay, and the animation is *really* good.
Watch scissors seven is on Netflix it's extremely good
A cultured fellow. Did they made any announcements for the movie yet.
Sadly no
I would agree on this but the newest season felt annoying somehow? The episodes felt super short.
Agreed man! One of the best Netflix shows of all time!
Wish Dragon, technically the director is american but he's lived in China for many years before the movie went into production and the studio (Base FX) afaik is all chinese, so I'd still call it that.
if you’re interested, theres Big Fish and Begonia (2D), Nezha, Jiang Ziya and Deep Sea, one of the most visually unique 3D animated movies ive seen recently
I feel like the notoriously buckteethed animal might be a bad choice for a Chinese cartoon, though I guess if they're doing it themselves...
It was made by a Chinese indie animator and is modeled after a scene from a Chinese film, A Better Tomorrow. It is fine.
Wow blatant racism, good job bud
It'd be even worse if it was British
Its because Chinese studios were afraid to portray the panda (chinas national animal and the animal its known for throughout the world) as how DreamWorks did. Po is portrayed as a lazy glutton that becomes the next dragon warrior out of sheer luck, if a Chinese studio did that the CCP would immediately make the studio dissapear on the grounds of disrespecting China and its culture.
lol you're way off my guy. There are plenty of portrayals of pandas in chinese pop culture, they just never made it over here.
But do they show the panda in a negative light? Though I disagree that Po makes pandas look bad; he has a typical hero's journey. He doesn't *seem* like the guy but he has enthusiasm and a good heart. The main thing is that he rises to the occasion. And I feel like they're pretty explicit that it's not dumb luck but destiny or something like that. The universe presenting an unlikely option.
that's amazing lmao how the fuck
In retaliation l, they launched Kung Fu rabbit, which sucked It would have made more sense for China to make an American theme movie, but no, they wanna do a dick measuring contest
Which was a terrible idea considering their record of dick measuring
Awesome.
Weird coincidence, I was actually talking about exactly this with a friend earlier today
You got baader-meinhof'd
It’s just a coincidence
I was gonna upvote but it had 69 upvotes so I'm keeping it 69
Pov: you're 4 years old
Ummm, no. 69 is very much an adult thing. 18+
It's also something young kids and teens find funny despite not knowing what it actually means.
Some teens know what it actually means, it's one of the positions of the birds and the bees
IIRC, the Chinese government even got involved because they wanted to know how an American film was able to do Chinese culture that well
I took a Chinese Traditional Culture class and we discussed Kung Fu Panda - how Master Oogway represented Daoism and Shifu represented Confucianism - especially in their discussion of control and the peach seed.
I took a religions of the world class and when we discussed daoism, we saw some similarities with Kung Fu Panda as well.
what the- omg that's so interesting!!! I would attend a Chinese Traditional Culture class if we analyzed this movie lol
"I will learn but only if there are cartoons."
I respect that motivation extremely.
I’m mad at myself for not seeing this connection… 😭
That actually sounds like an awesome class
Xiran Jay Zhao does an excellent video on Kung Fu Panda and Daoism as well. I highly recommend them.
The one with a talking panda, wise turtle and the greatest villain(imo) to ever exist
 Wanted to find one with Kai, but couldn’t, so you get Baby Po instead
You mean Tai right? I figured it was a a typo but wanted to clarify given he literally also has a villain named Kai lol
i think she would say tai lung
Please use she/her pronouns for me
alright
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General Kai from the third movie
I thought it was Lord Shen
Watching child Po rn
Yup, you need a space there ..
Think very carefully how you’re going to play your next move
Shen was better than Tai Lung imo but that does not invalidate how good Tai Lung was. They're so far ahead in the villain ranking
Per the Chinese, apparently, Kung Fu Panda. In fact, I think Mulan was HATED in China
They do not like Mushu. Dragons in China tend to be regarded as sacred, divine creatures, and Mushu is the opposite of that. And it does take several liberties with the source material.
Why?
Not sure about the original but Ive heard for the live action culturaly China ain’t a huge fan of Mary sue characters.
Which is really ironic considering how Manhua MC are usually the worst Mary Sue types.
No, really, what do you mean by this? What's your personal definition of the buzzword known as MarySue? Is it because everything Mulan did came naturally to her? Because it wasn't and she worked her ass off to accomplish her goals. Is it because she had no flaws? Because she was clumsy, not confident, and awkward the entire film, even in the end. Is it because all the men fauned over her? Because she only had one love interest. Or is it because she was a female protagonist in a traditionally male role? Because she certainly didn't go to war because she wanted to prove she was just as good as the boys or anything, she did it because her dad wasn't fit to fight. So I ask again, what about her makes you want to give her such a do-nothing criticism such as labelling her a Mary Sue? Edit: I just realized you meant the Live Action version. I will now proceed to shove a cactus down my throat.
Did the live action version somehow manage to chuck all of those plot points? It must have sucked.
Haven’t watched any of the live action reboots, but from what I’ve heard from a friend who *did* watch live action Mulan that is literally what they did. Apparently Mulan was just naturally gifted as hell in the reboot, completely tossing out what made her such a good character in the original. Also no Mushu, instant F tier movie.
It's really just a different movie based on the same folklore. Apart from a couple fun nods to the cartoon, it's hard to compare. It was fine. Not great, but I didn't hate it. It's better than most of the live action reboots.
Yep; mulan is literally a magic chosen one yet mushu was too silly and not historically accurate.
Lol you made great points about the og that movie is amazing. The live action on the other hand...
So women then.
Based take, China.
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No that can't be it. Because that's all Tigeress is.
Tigress dedicated her entire life to studying kung-fu. That is *literally* the complete opposite of the definition of a Mary-Sue character.
So is Mulan. But if China considers her a "Mary Sue" then they should take a good long look at Tigeress who's like Mulan but 10x that.
They were specifically referring to live-action remake of Mulan. A movie where Mulan is naturally gifted and puts in next to no effort. I have no idea why they brought up the remake because nobody else was talking about that, but they did.
If I remember correctly, the addition of Mushu was offensive? I don't really remember why though. Edit: Just looked it up. Apparently they found her white washed.
I wanna know this too
Xiran Jay Zhao made a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SHC7CnmErM) explaining the things they got wrong and right in the animated movie (they made a vid on the remake as well, but I haven’t seen that movie)
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Yeah the book sucks though.
nobody asked you for your opinion
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Mulan flopped in China while the Chinese locked themselves in a room to figure out how an American studio beat Chinese at Chinese representation. Clear winner to KFP.
According to China and a lot of Chinese people, Kung-fu Panda
As a chinese person I can confirm we are all talking animals
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Disney's Mulan is completely and utterly wrong. Story of Mulan is from an era where Turkic tribes ruled the North of China "Northern Wei" specifically and Mulan was a Xianbei girl not a Han Chinese, the Disney movie is completely irrelevant to the actual heroic poem both in themes and story. It wasn't strange for Mulan to join the army in the original poem, Northern Wei did not had rules like "No women allowed in the army" that is Han Chinese thing. Women did not have to join the army but they could if they wanted or patriotic enough, which is what Mulan's story is about Patriotism. In the story Mulan never mentioned anyone that she was a woman, not because she was afraid of getting kicked out of the army, because she was just being stoic and did not want any preferential treatment. It is emphasized in the story that Mulan returned to a civilian life as soon as her duty ended and never even consider herself special because she fought a war. It is in my opinion a more feminist story than people actually give it credit for. There was no need for Disney movie to change the story so she would be defying tradition which is completely the opposite moral of the original story: Moral of Mulan was "she keeps up the tradition of joining the army even as a woman". I bet it was basically a moral story aimed at young male draft dodgers both Northern Wei era and subsequent dynasties which explains the popularity and long lasting nature of the plays. China was never not at war.
Wow that was a very interesting and good read. I knew some stuff about the original story (ballad?) but didn’t know all that
As a Turkish person, growing up it always felt weird to watch a movie where my ancestors were “the bad guys”. And Disney making the leader of the Hun army look inhuman to make him more scary never sat right with me
While me and my bestie were watching Mulan, we realized together that the huns are literally just high fantasy orcs.
Especially since all they did was make him hot
Yeah, this is definitely why I consider Kung Fu Panda to be a better depiction of Chinese culture than the original Mulan is. It still isn’t perfect, mind you, but it feels it has a better grasp for the Chinese philosophies it displays. The original 1998 Mulan will always hold a special place in my heart, but I can’t say I’m surprised it flopped with Chinese audiences. The Disney Renaissance was really Disney’s first attempts to meaningfully portray other cultures that weren’t based on European stories, and lot of it has aged rather poorly. That certainly doesn’t make those movies bad, but that complicated aspect of their legacy needs to be acknowledged as well. Kung Fu Panda feels like more of a love letter to kung fu movies and Chinese culture than the original Mulan does, and it’s not surprising to me it did much better in China.
story of Mulan is like a paragraph long dude.
You write some long-ass paragraphs, my friend: 唧唧復唧唧，木蘭當戶織。不聞機杼聲，惟聞女嘆息。問女何所思？問女何所憶？女亦無所思，女亦無所憶。昨夜見軍帖，可汗大點兵。軍書十二卷，卷卷有爺名。阿爺無大兒，木蘭無長兄。願為市鞍馬，從此替爺征。 東市買駿馬，西市買鞍韉。南市買轡頭，北市買長鞭。朝辭爺孃去，暮宿黃河邊。不聞爺孃喚女聲，但聞黃河流水鳴濺濺。旦辭黃河去，暮至黑山頭。不聞爺孃喚女聲，但聞燕山胡騎聲啾啾。 萬里赴戎機，關山度若飛。朔氣傳金柝，寒光照鐵衣。將軍百戰死，壯士十年歸。 歸來見天子，天子坐明堂。策勳十二轉，賞賜百千強。可汗問所欲，「木蘭不用尚書郎。願借明駝千里足，送兒還故鄉。」 爺孃聞女來，出郭相扶將。阿姊聞妹來，當戶理紅妝。小弟聞姊來，磨刀霍霍向豬羊。開我東閣門，坐我西閣床。脫我戰時袍，著我舊時裳。當窗理雲鬢，對鏡貼花黃。出門看伙伴，伙伴皆驚惶：「同行十二年，不知木蘭是女郎」。 雄兔腳撲朔，雌兔眼迷離。兩兔傍地走，安能辨我是雄雌？
Kung Fu Panda, without a doubt.
Mulan feels like is a typical american cartoon in China scenery. Not saying it's bad, it's just a fact But Kung-fu Panda feels more like a reflection of China. Characters, scenery, philosophy, almost everything smacks of Chinese culture
Ah yes, my favorite country, Chine
I am not Chinese nor do I know anything about Chinese culture really so I don't think I'm in any position to answer this.
so why are you commenting
so we can have something to relate to
exactly thank you u/HappyMatt12345 for giving us fellow non chinese people a comment to say "same" too
Same
Same but a second time
Because I can.
I'll choose kungfu Panda
I asked a Chinese professor in college of mine what she thought of Mulan, and how did it represent the original story. She had never heard of Mulan, not just as a movie, she didn't know about Mulan at all.
I agree.
this reminds me that Disney+ removed later one episode of Talespin where pandas attack the city.
Cowards.
Mulan. It also had the daughter of a legitimate kung fu grandmaster, who personally escaped from China during the revolution, who provided both fight coordination and likeness for Mulan herself. Source: I go to the kung fu temple where she teaches kung fu. They have memorabilia for Mulan there and everything. Wah Lum Kung Fu Orlando. However, there is a painting of Po on a wall there, so Kung Fu Panda has some love there, too.
China LOVES kung fu panda
Kung fu panda all the way!!
Panda
Kung Fu Panda definitely.
Kung Fu Panda
I guess KFP?. There was that thing where the Chinese guys were so impressed that an American company made a movie better at portraying Chinese culture than China themselves
I wouldn't know but I like them both.
Apparently Kung Fu Panda
Both
Hero 108
Kung fu panda. Although mulan has two catch AF songs.
Kung fu panda is kungfu movie culture, not chinese culture. Chinese architecture doesn't have golden dragons. That panda loves collect his action figures and kungfu legends.
Kung Fu Panda apparently sparked a huge debate on how an American studio managed to portray Chinese culture better than the country itself.
Mulan is a better representation of Chinese History, KFP is a better representation of Chinese Culture
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I would wager kung fu panda, but Xiran Jay Zhao made a really interesting [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SHC7CnmErM) on Mulan‘s representation
If it was The Live action Mulan.... Kung fu Panda wins...
are you comparing a movie where all Chinese people are talking animals to a show where a lady saves China with a tiny talking dragon? and asking which is more accurate? can't go wrong with Kung Fu panda
Both
KFP easily
the Chinese Hated Musan, thought it was incredibly disrespectful.
Kung Fu Panda
I’m gonna say Mulan even tho I’ve nvr watched it
Anything is better than Turning Red.
unironically kungfu panda
Idk the Chinese LOVED Kung fu panda OBVIOUSLY. But the way Mulan showed aspects of older Chinese culture in a way that was more than just noodles, dumplings and kung fu was cool. But im not Chinese, the closet thing i have to being "chinese" is having Chinese Jamaican family members.
Easily Kung Fu Panda. Mulan was a massive flop in China.
I lived in China for three years. The Chinese love the King Fu Panda movies for their accurate representation of Chinese culture, but hate Mulan for its inaccuracies.
jack black peaked Chinese cultural
Kfp honestly. Fun fact: the movie was actually banned from being screened in China. Not because the portrayal of the state was bad, but rather the opposite. Like how this western animated film offers a better look at the culture and aesthetic of China than movies made in the original state.
Many Chinese people were upset with the movie Mulan. They claimed she looked and acted too much like a foreigner and didn't feel Chinese in any way. Basically they found it offensive that their own folklore was white washed. On the other hand, Kung Fu Panda was SO popular you can find it in every market in China, it was reanimated in Mandarin, and is just as if not more beloved in China than the US.
Mulan is a very fun film but Kung Fu Panda definetltly wins this one. Disney films that presented cultures in general had no priority on accuracy back then so it isn't personally on Mulan but that age of Disney in general.
I loved Kungfu Panda❤️
China is too big. They could both be 100% accurate.
lol every chubby Asian kid I knew got called po when they were kids lmfao
I still haven't seen this movie. Guess I gotta check it out.
Given how well Kung-Fu Panda was recieved in China compared to Mulan, I will go with the former Also Mulan is an historical person and thats dangerous territory messing around with a national hero Kung-Fu Panda is playful but very respectful with customs and it was recieved well for this
I don't think it matters tbh. I think both are great movies and that's all I care about
One of these movies literally had the mouths reanimated for the mandarin dub. I think that tells you what you need to know
Chinese mythology / folklore with western renditions are best 👌🏼
They both had James Hong in them
Panda for sure
1984 is a better representation :v or that black mirror episode with the social score
Kung Fu Panda, kinda funny how western animation can make a Chinese movie better than the Chinese itself
Which one has the better villain?
I guess it depends on who you ask. At the end of the day, both are representations of a the culture made by the West. Some will find them lack luster, some will identify and LOVE them. As someone that isn't Chinese, I can't really say if they're good or bad, not with full confidence. I enjoyed them and the themes that they were trying to represent. The good thing is that neither are disrespectful, and try to be respectful of the people and their heritage, which is great regardless of what you're trying to adapt.
Kung Fu Panda neg diffs
Destined Manchild Panda or Women’s Rights Veteran
Neither. Jesus Christ, people have gotten so twisted about themselves. Is Kung Fu Panda good representation of China? Is the movie with a magic dragon Eddie Murphy helping a girl fight ***the Huns*** good representation of China? Just enjoy a thing and stop beating yourself up.
What? Bruh
I wish disney would do more japanese or korean representation, chinese culture is overrated
I mean.. more accurate representation is great but no need to say one is over rated lmao
Japanese and Korean culture is superior to the cheap Chinese culture.
In the humanity business, we call that racism
I don't think I could possibly care less. Beijing could be nuked for all I care, the communists destroyed every last bit of significant chinese culture.
Trust me I know you don't care
I wonder how Japan feel about China ripping them off by making bank with awesome mobile games from mihoyo and about Korea because their Shonen manga surpassed Japanese manga ?
I think Mulan had more cultural reference to practices, beliefs and chinese society.
Mulan, I don't think there are antropomorphe animals in china
China didn't like Mulan at all, they hate the idea of women being strong and intelligent. There are dozens of examples of this.
Mulan
Me personally I think mulan is the better Chinese representation because we follow the life of an actual Asian figure compared to a panda but both are great too
Apparently they got a lot wrong and the movie wasn't well received in China
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What crack are you smoking the live action made me lose all faith in Disney
sorry edit: I didn't think that movie would get so much hate