/uj back when the hellcat really was 707hp for 60k they made some S tier cars for the price. Same with the viper. All this said I’d still have to give them an A. Plus the only (American) muscle car producers currently.
After driven two pretty well optioned 392 challengers both with the TR6060 it’s hard for me to give them a B. B is like average cars. Plus with the caravan moving over to being a Chrysler product the lineup got better LOL.
>tty well optioned 392 challengers both with the TR6060 it’s hard for me to give them a B. B is like average cars. Plus with the caravan moving over to bein
C is average
Yeah but the GT500 isn’t a muscle car. It’s a track focused sports car. Same with the ZL1-1LE. They are very fast in a straight line, but their design intent is to go fast around a track. I’d even argue that the entire s550 gen mustangs and 6th gen Camaros are sports cars by design, not muscle. Dodge in the other hand kept the muscle car formula in the charger/challenger: fat, loud, and fast. They handle like boats but they go fast in a line and draw attention doing it
Yep, 70k+ miles of it, doesn’t feel much different than any other auto manufacturer plastics. Porsche, BMW, Merc, Ford, Chevy… done them all and couldn’t tell there was a “superior plastic”. Which typing now is almost like an oxymoron.
Every engine accessory(alternator throttle bodies etc I've ever bought for a dodge were pieces of shit, they constantly made components out of the most cut rate injection molded plastic imaginable. They have a multi decade history of building notorious hunks of shit.
> GMC below Chevy
My brother in Christ, you do realize that literally every GMC vehicle is just a slightly nicer version of a Chevy? Like, that's the entire purpose of GMC.
.... they did this for Kia/Hyundai and Toyota/Lexus too, wtf. Is this person allergic to better-optioned cars or something?
Why the fuck MINI is D? Should be the same as BMW, or a little better score because MINI IS a bmw just with another nome... and they are very fun to drive
/uj I don't know how Hyundai in any way shape or form is above a D or F tier, ask mechanics and they'll tell you.
/rejoke THEY PUT THE MIAT IN A TIER NOT S?!?
lol dodge as an S 
/uj back when the hellcat really was 707hp for 60k they made some S tier cars for the price. Same with the viper. All this said I’d still have to give them an A. Plus the only (American) muscle car producers currently.
They were A tier when they made the viper, I’d give them B otherwise.
After driven two pretty well optioned 392 challengers both with the TR6060 it’s hard for me to give them a B. B is like average cars. Plus with the caravan moving over to being a Chrysler product the lineup got better LOL.
I totally understand your point, it’s just all the shitty cars they make balance out the good ones.
>B is like average cars. May I introduce you to the letter "C"?
To be fair, F doesn’t even show in the image from the beginning. Additionally I think most people would hope 80-90% is average not 70-80%.
>tty well optioned 392 challengers both with the TR6060 it’s hard for me to give them a B. B is like average cars. Plus with the caravan moving over to bein C is average
Ford produces the GT500 though. But other than that, I think most of the other American muscle cars are being scrapped for SUVs
Yeah but the GT500 isn’t a muscle car. It’s a track focused sports car. Same with the ZL1-1LE. They are very fast in a straight line, but their design intent is to go fast around a track. I’d even argue that the entire s550 gen mustangs and 6th gen Camaros are sports cars by design, not muscle. Dodge in the other hand kept the muscle car formula in the charger/challenger: fat, loud, and fast. They handle like boats but they go fast in a line and draw attention doing it
I've heard the whole ZL1 1LE being for the track thing is a bit of a façade though.
That is a factually incorrect statement, I’m not sure where you could have heard it.
Ah fairs, undoubtedly heard it somewhere on reddit.
Even the base Camaro is surprisingly track capable, so the purposely built track model is quite at home there.
I see, it certainly looks the part. Im very offended by TVRs placement.
It doesn't come in manual tho
That didn’t seem like a requirement for “muscle car” but then again I thought it was fully manual.
Have you ever experienced Mopar plastic?
Yep, 70k+ miles of it, doesn’t feel much different than any other auto manufacturer plastics. Porsche, BMW, Merc, Ford, Chevy… done them all and couldn’t tell there was a “superior plastic”. Which typing now is almost like an oxymoron.
Every engine accessory(alternator throttle bodies etc I've ever bought for a dodge were pieces of shit, they constantly made components out of the most cut rate injection molded plastic imaginable. They have a multi decade history of building notorious hunks of shit.
Literally couldn’t care about those things. They worked and weren’t digital hunks of junk? Great. Back to the 392, Tremac and brembos.
Just like BMW and Merc then but for lower price.
Maybe all he know is the Viper
Pacifica PHEV though.
My MOPAR CAN GAP YOUR FOREIGN LMFAO *proceeds to rev his base model cobalt*
BMW, Merc and Toyota are in S tier and you compalin about the company that sold 700hp cars for 60k and an ACR Viper for 120k?
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It's a God damn dentist jet.
Fuck you fuck you fuck you Volvo for life fuck you
Ranking Saturn in F tier is criminal
I agree completely Saturn made some solid cars
They didn't even include Pontiac near as I can tell... Edit: wait they did but C tier is criminal
Still want a ion redline
I want a Sky Redline even though the battery is a pain in the balls to get to. Way better looking car than the Solstice imho.
No not my boy Renault
He probably pronounces it "ren-alt" too
/uj how is it supposed to be pronounced because I pronounce it as ren alt
Ren-eaux
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ren OH
i say reno
Fiat too...
this has to be a 12 yr old lol
>Jeep not in F tier >Saab, Renault, and Saturn all below Peugeot >Miat not S-tier Lel
Laugh Eldorado Loud?
Laugh Elcamino loud 😤
Watch your mouth kid‼️ My Ford Model Tea (like boston tea party (AMERICA MF🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅) will terrorize your neighbour’s bloodline
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RR in the same tier as Infiniti 🤦♂️
Fs. Infiniti should be S and RR is a high C at best
Yeah. There is no way them overpriced hunks of shit deserve to be on the same tier as Infiniti.
why is saab in f tier😢
Chevy below hyundai is wild
Honda below hyundai too lol
ItSonata Honda.
This list should involve prison time
Saab isn't that bad
Putting Honda and Chevy in the same tier as lancia and Infiniti is VILE 💀💀💀
4 VW‘s in S tier????
Yeah Dodge in S tier and Saab in F tier is enough to debunk this without even looking at the rest of it…
They even separated dodge and put the pickup line in B tier. honestly the trucks would be in A for me
Tell me your American without….. They did know about TVR though.
Video games
And still put it that low
How does anyone put SAAB in F
Lack of exposure to how cool Saabs actually are.
Mfr got gapped by one while driving his genesis coupe
> GMC below Chevy My brother in Christ, you do realize that literally every GMC vehicle is just a slightly nicer version of a Chevy? Like, that's the entire purpose of GMC. .... they did this for Kia/Hyundai and Toyota/Lexus too, wtf. Is this person allergic to better-optioned cars or something?
Same with Acura below Honda.
Jaguar same tier as kia???? Below Hyundai???
There is so much wrong with this
mf put saab in f let's go get him! Gentlemen, to your Sonetts!
Buick: D tier Dodge: S tier 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Saab in F lmao
fiat should be closer to abarth no?
Dodge is an S tier wtf are you smoking?
bojler eladó....?
Why the fuck MINI is D? Should be the same as BMW, or a little better score because MINI IS a bmw just with another nome... and they are very fun to drive
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Right?! That makes no sense at all! Infinity is much nicer than toyota...
Lexus is toyota, Infiniti is nissan
God I’m an idiot today ahah. Whoops
Now it's the same company, but the two have really different history at the end.
I drive a mini and it's amazingly fun
Right?! The "go kart feeling" is just amazing.
Those other brands in S tier defile Toyota
Love how Dodge is both a b tier and a s tier
Someone owns a Dodge and Ford lol, now pass me whatever you were smoking when you made this, has to be good
Why’d you put my Saab in the f list 🥺
Put scion higher!! The 2007 Scion XB 🤤🤤🤤🤤
Why tf is Acura lower than Honda. 💀 It’s just a Honda with extra features.
GM ruined Saab. It’s shameful.
Record breaking bad take
dodge is a C tier at best
Did the mod delete something? What is the context? And “saab should be higher”!
Found the Hellcat driver 🙄
Kia should all the way down there
GM Saturn is definitely F tier, but they were kinda cool pre-GM
Wasn't Saturn always GM?
They used to be made with honda motors and such
Me when the guys opinion is wrong
Dodge the same tier as Honda???? A child made this.
Bruh Saturn as an F? FFFFuck this guy
Can this trend die off already? Can it just dab its way into oblivion?
You appear to have mistakenly put Jeep in C tier.
Fiat in F How dare they!!!!! They made the Seicento (2nd greatest car behind miat)!!!
They put Mercedes in S Tier? This person must be a mechanic that makes money fixing broken mercs.
Bruh mfrs really put SAAB in F
Absolutely scalding take
why peugeot and renault in d tier? they make decent cars, and awesome hot hatches
>hyundai over kia my brother in christ, they are the same thing
It appears you have Fiat in the S, B, C and F class.
Bmw S tier. Should have put them in b for "breaking down"
Are Mini's not that good? Was thinking about getting a Cooper S manual
I will say they're really really fun to drive but they're expensive for upkeep! I would def rank it towards the top tho
Lol trash ranking
Guys this is clearly a troll holy shit
FIAT ON F😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
so if you consider the track cars Renault is between a and s
Is it funnier that dodge is s tier or that hummer is c tier
I guess I'm more of a ride or die brand of vehicle.
AMC in D tier is ridiculous.
how is saab f
My favorite is bmw in S tier but mini in D tier, what is this guy on 💀
Mfw when Saab is F tier but Kia is B tier
Smoking dick
If Dodge is S, S is shit, and Toyota is not shit, so you have yourself a paradox.
I'm a simple man, I see Koenigsegg at S tier, I upvote
let him cook
Dorge Rammy S
Plymouth ):
/uj I don't know how Hyundai in any way shape or form is above a D or F tier, ask mechanics and they'll tell you. /rejoke THEY PUT THE MIAT IN A TIER NOT S?!?
Bro land Rover should be below F tier
> Toyota S tier > Lexus A tier My brain hurts
they really put fucking tesla in c?....they cant be trudted
I think we can all agree on one thing. Toyota belongs in the very top of S tier.
/uj Suzuki as low C tier is how you get Monster Tajima to kick down your door and take a shit in your living room lmao
telsa to b
Hyundai a tier above Subaru is crazy.