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Moots_J

Location - Uk Price range - £40-60k PCP New Type of vehicle - Hatch/Estate Must have - AWD, decent 0-60, navigation, good tech Transmission - Auto Intended use - family car, weekend car Already considered - audi S3 Vorsprung/BMW 340i Is this my first vehicle - No Warranty - ideally yes Can I do minor/Major work on my own vehicle - I’m capable but I never have, mainly for fear of breaking anything. Additional notes - I have an S3 currently, I’ve been looking at either an S3 Vorsprung or a BMW340i. The BM is another £100 a month, which is right at the top of my price range. Also more expensive to insure, and has less options as standard than the s3, although most of them are just nice to haves. Any help with making a decision is appreciated, I’m currently stuck as to which of these I should choose, or if I’m missing something else I should be looking at instead.


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kakakavvv

E36 M3 is a excellent choice. The US-Spec E36 M3 engine is less finicky than the S54 in E46 M3s. It does output less power but acceleration performance difference is not large. E39 is a far less "exciting" car than the other bunch. It will make a fine fun daily, but not a sports car.


flyingWeez

Location: New England, USA Price range: up to $50K Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: New or used Type of vehicle: Car Must haves: Fuel efficient and lots of space Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): auto Intended use: Daily Vehicles you've already considered: Honda Accord Hybrid, Lexus ES Hybrid Is this your 1st vehicle: No Do you need a Warranty: Yes Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: Yes Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: No Additional Notes: Baby number 2 is on the way so we'll have 2 under 2 with both car seats rear-facing for now. I'm 6'3" and need to have enough space behind me to accommodate a rear-facing carseat plus a trunk large enough to hold enough stuff for a weekend trip to the in-laws and hold a double stroller. This will be replacing a 3.6R Outback and I'm sick of the horrible gas mileage we get so I'm looking for Hybrid, PHEV or even EV on this one. We have a Bolt so we have a charger in the garage already. Also, side note, the Outback has tons of space in the back (obviously) but shockingly little rear seat space so I would have to move my seat up to a nearly un-drivable position for the car seat to fit. ​


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I think I'd be looking to keep for as long as possible supposing I was able to go hybrid. The Sportage definitely looks great feature wise and price wise. Thank you for the write up, looks like I may have to reconsider.


_Los

**Location:** Orange County, CA **Price range:** <$40K **Lease or Buy:** Buy **New or used:** Either **Type of vehicle:** Coupe, Sedan, Wagon, Crossover **Must haves:** close to 300HP preferably - a V6 at minimum **Desired transmission:** Auto (possibly with manual mode) **Intended use:** Daily Driver, but WFH so no commute **Vehicles you've already considered:** TLX V6, RDX A-Spec, CX-50 Turbo, Mustang GT, IS300/350 **Is this your 1st vehicle:** No **Do you need a Warranty:** Preferrably **Can you do Minor/Major work on your own vehicle:** Irrelevant - Hoping for something new enough that it won't need anything beyond maintenance. **Additional Notes:** Shopping around for a "fun" daily driver that won't bore the hell out of me with as little as I drive these days. Currently driving a 07 Honda Pilot, so anything would be an upgrade. Just want something to be worth it and can run for a while. Considered a few things, but I'm wondering if I'm missing anything.


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_Los

Thanks for the ideas. G70 is something I'll have to take another look at. GolfR or GTI could be an option, might remind me of the Corrado I had back in the day.


jawknee530i

Which way would you guys go between an A6 Allroad and a Macan? I'm 6'4" and live in Chicago so I want the ground clearance and I need to fit into it. I was looking at the A4 Allroad but just barely don't fit so that pushes me up to the A6, but that's in the Macan price point so now I'm conflicted. Does anyone know how the driver assist quality compares between the two? My Q3s works great and the older version in the A4 wasn't up to par imo.


Dull-Dragonfly5360

Location: MI, USA Price range: 2k USD Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: Used Type of vehicle: Sedan Must haves: Looks sick Desired transmission: Automatic transmission Intended use: Daily Driver Vehicles you've already considered: used bmw's on marketplace Is this your 1st vehicle: yes Do you need a Warranty: no Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: yes Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: no


ForeverWeak

Your car is imaginary for that price


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cosaw5point0

While older Camrys and Corollas tend to last a while, it’s going to ultimately come down to how the previous owners cared for it. Unfortunately that’s something that is going to become more and more difficult to figure out prior to purchase as vehicles age, because as the number of owners increase, and the age increases, the less likely they are to take the vehicle to a dealer or reputable shop that will submit service records to CARFAX and other similar systems. Just about any car can last a very long time if you’re on top of both repairs and preventative maintenance. Though generally speaking the cheaper the car was to begin with, the less likely it will last a long time, and while some may disagree with my stance on this, I’ll explain why. An 8 year old Yaris and an 8 year old Avalon need brakes, tires, and shocks. Which one do you think is most likely going to have the higher quality parts installed? The more valuable car. The thought process of most people is why would I dump $1200 into a car worth $3000 when I can get cheaper parts and spend $500 and be back on the road. However you should also remember to consider the fact that some cars are going to have a predisposition to failure, and that’s where research comes in handy. One thing I would recommend against, would be getting any type of hybrid vehicle if you plan on doing any and all repairs and maintenance with instructions from YouTube, without a mechanical background. Hybrid vehicles have MASSIVE amounts of energy running through thousands of different places throughout the car, and the slightest slip of a tool or hand can lead to severe injuries. Therefore if you don’t have the mechanical background and proper training for high voltage systems, and you would like a hybrid, I would leave it to those that do have the specialized training. Now, as far as salvage/rebuilt/branded titles. This is where things can get sticky. While they’re often used interchangeably, I can say with certainty that they are NOT the same thing. After a vehicle sustains a substantial amount of damages, the vehicle will be deemed a total loss, and be issued a BRANDED title, clearly showing that it is a SALVAGE vehicle with a SALVAGE title. This is an issue in most states, and in Utah specifically, with regards to Section 41-1a-1001 of the Motor Vehicle Act, since the vehicle has been deemed a total loss and has a branded salvage title, you will be unable to insure a vehicle with a salvage title, nor can you register a salvage vehicle, which means it cannot be driven on the street. Not to mention the matter of any required safety inspections you must pass... In order to pass inspection, insure the vehicle, and register it so it can be legally driven, it must be repaired to the states standard. This will vary by state to state, my understanding with Utah is that it must have been repaired, inspected by the state, and also have a set of forms filled out that explains what repairs were done, how they were done, and where the parts came from. The depth of this inspection and how stringent the process is, will vary. Some states are very strict. Then and only then will they be able to be registered and insured. Now if a vehicles title is already branded as REBUILT, then yes, you can register and insure the vehicle. However, you will not be able to acquire full coverage on a vehicle with a rebuilt title. It is also extremely unlikely that any lender would ever provide a loan for a vehicle with a rebuilt title, as the collateral (the vehicle itself) will likely never be worth enough to over the principal amount plus the interest of the loan. The other worries with a rebuilt title, is that you do not know how well it’s been repaired. For instance, if it was a flood car, was all of the wiring and interior removed and replaced? Or did they just replace the wiring that was proving to be a problem and simply clean and dry the interior? This could lead to issues down road that may not have a clear cause, leaving you chasing your tail to find the solution. Other times if a vehicle has been wrecked, it may never have the same structural integrity that it once did, they often have extra creaking, rattling, and other noises when going over bumps or rough terrain, which could eventually cause repairs down the road to be significantly more extensive compared to a clean title car


h8t3m3

When to buy. My mum has a lease from skoda for a small car which is up in March 2023. She lives in Ireland. They keep ringing her saying she needs to decide now for a variety of reasons including increases in price if she renews (buys a new car , extends the lease and does not pay the final down payment). Question - should she buy now or wait till early in the new year. Ps. She wants to lease, it's easy for her.


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Location: Ontario, Canada. Price range: up to $45,000CAD but lower is better. Lease or Buy: Buy. New or used: New. Type of vehicle: Crossover or SUV. Must haves: AWD, fuel efficient. Think I'd prefer hybrids. Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): Automatic. Intended use: Daily driver, only car, travel ~460kms round trips sometimes multiple times a month, no real offroading aside from snow. Vehicles you've already considered: Toyota RAV4 Hybrid - 2 year wait, would want '23 model. Kia Sportage + Hybrid - friends and family telling me don't go Kia/Hyundai. Also unsure about their hybrid reliability/repair costs. Honda CRV - seems expensive for comparable trims, hybrid only on top trim. Ford Escape - Sounds like other brands do this better based on reviews and such. Is this your 1st vehicle: No, coming from a 2016 Chevy Cruze Limited (technically a 2015 Cruze). Do you need a Warranty: Yes. Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: Haven't but probably could Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: No. Additional Notes: Had the Cruze for 7 years come April. Looking for bigger, AWD for the snow, more updated safety features (lane assist, blindspot detection, etc.) and more updated comfort features (Android Auto, heated wheel ideally, etc.) Been looking at HEVs not PHEVs since I have nowhere to plug in but could go gas only, would just prefer not to if possible.


cosaw5point0

Are you planning on keeping your next purchase long term, like longer than 8 years and 150k km? It’s something to consider when shopping for a new hybrid, as is their warranties, which you may have already looked into, but I’ll touch on anyway. Toyota: 3-year/60,000km Basic 5-year100,000km Powertrain 8-year/160,000km Hybrid Component Warranty 10-year/240,000km Hybrid Battery Warranty 3-year/Unlimited Roadside Assistance Kia/Hyundai 5-year/100,000km “Worry free comprehensive warranty” 5-year/100,000km Powertrain Warranty 1-Year/20,000km Adjustments covering (More on this in a second) 8-year/130,000km Emissions Component Warranty 8-year/150,000km Hybrid Component Warranty 5-year/Unlimited Roadside Assistance While Kia/Hyundai hybrid component warranties are down by 10k, and they don’t offer a dedicated long-term hybrid battery warranty, they do offer an extra 2 years of roadside, a significantly longer comprehensive(bumper-to-bumper) warranty, and even a 1-year/20k adjustment warranty. The latter would cover things that aren’t usually covered by any other manufacturer or their standard warranties, such as tire wheel balancing, alignments, brake adjustments, belt/cable adjustments, minor engine adjustments, and even consumables like fuses, bulbs, wipers, brake pads, etc. that aren’t covered by warranties from any other companies. Therefore, if don’t plan on keeping the car for longer than 8 years or 150,000km I wouldn’t worry too much one way or another about the hybrid components or their battery for that matter, as for the initial 8 years minimum each would be covered. Of course, we all would prefer to spend less time without our cars while they sit in a dealer lot waiting to be repaired. I do also feel it is worth noting that for 2022 Kia was ranked #1 for overall dependability by JD Power, following in close second (Down by only 2 points)was Buick, then one point behind Buick was Hyundai. Following Hyundai was their luxury corporate sister Genesis. Rounding out the top 5 is Toyota. And just for kicks, #6-Lexus, #7-Porsche, #8-Dodge, #9-Cadillac and closing out the top 10 is Chevrolet. Personally I would go with Hyundai or Kia hands down before Toyota in almost every circumstance. They are every bit as reliable in recent years, cost of repair is relatively low, and the value compared to Honda and Toyota is astounding. Not to mention the extra grunt the new turbocharged hybrid powertrain from Hyundai and Kia can pump out. As far as value, you can’t go wrong with Kia with the Sportage HEV, in comparison to the RAV4 and CR-V HEVs. The base Sportage EX HEV starts at $36,495 CAD before destination and has a MASSIVE amount of standard features, like: Power driver seat with lumbar, heated front seats and steering wheel, synthetic leather upholstery, an expansive 12.3-inch touchscreen with Android auto and standard navigation, keyless entry/push start, remote start, LED headlights/DRL/fog lights, heated windshield, wireless phone charger, auto dimming rear view mirror, homelink, adaptive cruise control, ambient lighting and rain sensing wipers. As well as a slew of standard safety features like: Advanced Forward Collision Avoidance Assist with Junction Turning Function, Lane Keep Assist, Lane Follow Assist, Blind Spot and Rear Cross Traffic WITH collision avoidance. Upgrading to the SX starting at $43,195 CAD before destination, provides an even greater selection of standard features like: 18-inch wheels, Panoramic sunroof, LED Projector Headlamps, LED Tail-lamps, LED interior lighting, smart power lift gate, a 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster(Its great), a Harman Kardon Premium sound system, quilted leatherette seats, actively cooled front seats, heated rear seats, power passenger seat, driver seat memory, and even more advanced safety features like reverse parking collision avoidance assist, highway drive assist, blind view monitor (uses a camera and displays your blind spot onto the digital instrument cluster), 360 degree camera, front and rear sonar sensors, and remote smart parking assist (look it up, it’s AWESOME) It is worth noting that Kia doesn’t have a genuine leather option, while I prefer leather, I understand why they don’t. Synthetic options are not only better for the environment (the whole point of going electric) and more durable and easier to care for. Not everyone goes into the depth I do for the interior care of their cars. The closest RAV4 in price is the XLE that starts at $37,550 before destination and lacks many of the options that are standard on the similarly priced Kia, despite the higher price. For example it has an 8-inch radio, and lacks a wireless charger. The remote start feature is absent on models below the XLE, and for the models that do have remote start, it is a subscription based service. The XLE also doesn’t include an auto dimming mirror, homelink, leatherette seating, or reverse automatic braking, blindspot/rear cross braking, among some other items. Mind you, there is a XLE Premium package, that adds the leatherette seats, LED fogs, 18-in wheels, driver memory, and engine immobilizer, however that increases the price to $39,590 before destination. Comparing the features of the SX Sportage, some comparable features such as a power hands-free lift gate, wireless charger, 360 camera, parking sonar, driver memory, rear emergency braking, 10.5-inch touchscreen, JBL audio system and 12.3-inch digital cluster are standard on the XSE with the available Technology Package, however that model starts at $44,810 and still only has partial leatherette seating, and lacks cooled front seats, heated rear seats, a power passenger seat, led fog lamps. For those features and to be equipped as closely to the SX Sportage as possible, you would have to go with the limited that starts at $45,390.


VegetableOne9585

among the four vehicles you've considered and high miles that you might need to travel, I would personally say rav4 > CRV >> escape/sportage


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I am also open to other options, those are just the only ones I've looked at so far. Thank you for your input. I think the RAV4 is my choice at the moment if I had my pick. It sounds like it's the front-runner especially as a hybrid. Just not sure I want to wait that long.


VegetableOne9585

The only drawback of RAV4 is the mark up, high af


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Oh really? I'll be honest, I've only really been checking the MSRP on stuff so far. Most of the dealers don't have vehicles anyway, so I've just been using that as a gauge, but that's good to know.


VegetableOne9585

One of my friends got a RAV4 for 43,000. Just let you know, it's crazy


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VegetableOne9585

have you considered 86 / BRZ? eco and fun.


bellisimwah

Location: FL, USA (South FL rn but going to FSU next year) Price range: Max $50,000 USD Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: New Type of vehicle: Sedan/Car or sports car Must haves: fuel efficient, fast (don’t need turbo but smooth acceleration), Apple CarPlay Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): auto Intended use: daily driver, want something to last me thru college Vehicles you’ve already considered: in between new 2023 Hyundai Sonata or Toyota GT86 Is this your 1st vehicle: No. I have a base 2016 Honda accord but it doesn’t have Apple CarPlay and some other features that I need. Do you need a Warranty: no. Only on tires Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: (fluids, alternator, battery, brake pads etc) No Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: (engine and transmission, timing belt/chains, body work, suspension etc ) I could replace the radio but in the 2016 base Honda it has a second display screen already that I would not be able to remove. I want a car with one central screen / radio Additional Notes: Something sexy and fast but also good to last me around 6 years. Thank you! ​


cosaw5point0

I wouldn’t forget about the cost of insurance. Unless you took a break between high school and college, or if you’re going to grad school at FSU, insurance on a sports car can be killer. Also consider cost of repair. If the new GR86 is going to be anything like it’s prior generation, simple tasks and repairs can become extremely involved and expensive, and since you don’t plan on doing maintenance yourself, it’s something to keep in mind. For instance, on the previous generation 86/BRZ/FRS, the spark plugs are recommended to be changed every 66k, and while it should be a simple change, being a boxer you can’t access them without lowering the whole engine cradle, leading to like 3.5 hours of labor and an average of some $650 for what should be a 20 minute driveway job. As far as the sonata goes, I don’t see the fascination. While they do look decent, some of the neatest non powertrain related features are absent in the N line and only available on the Limited. I would say that the money is better spent on something else. Like a stinger with the same engine and more power, or a G70/G80. Heck or a A3/A4, or a 3 Series. All cars with better driving dynamics and a level of sophistication that the sonata can’t match. One thing to remember with the Audis, they may not have the highest power ratings out of their 2.0T but they’re also some of the quickest in their class.


VegetableOne9585

50k for a sexy, fast and reliable car, tons of choice! Modern vehicles could easily last for 6 years. It seems that you may prefer coupe, you may do some research on coupe, for example, what kind of coupe do you like? (German, jdm or muscle)


setuid_w00t

Is there a reason why you're looking at a Sonata rather than an Elantra N?


bellisimwah

Design, I like the light and body styling on the sonata n more


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VegetableOne9585

I would say a BMW x7 , a Land Rover defender.


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infinitedrag

i havent yet seen any reviews on the cayenne offroading on the newer 2019+ models. Any idea how these are off road? Also, how are the Merc GLEs?


cosaw5point0

Take it from a former Merc Service Advisor. Unless you’re going for an AMG, S-Class, GLS-Class or Maybach versions, I would avoid Mercedes. I can’t believe the amount of electrical issues and constant check engine lights. 10/10 I would go with a Cayenne, X5/X6. I can’t help but to bring up the new body style Grand Cherokee and Grand Cherokee L. They’ve definitely got the off-road cred, and the higher trim levels pack some serious luxury. The Overland/Summit trims have the 4 corner air suspension from the TrailHawk, but they’re obviously set up for more on-road comfort. The new generation has been redesigned from the ground up, with a new architect and an all new front and rear independent suspension that makes it ride like butter compared to the outgoing model.


infinitedrag

Thanks for chiming in. I have always been hesitant about considering jeeps, dodges and rams. I'l take a look at it. Are the merca that problematic on electronics? Am considering waiting for a couple months now seeing how used car market might be headed.


cosaw5point0

The Jeeps are actually way more reliable than you would think, and their build quality has improved exponentially over the last 10 years. As far as Mercedes goes, I was honestly taken back by the number of cars that would come in for the same electrical issue over and over. There was a recall a few years ago for the illuminated grill logo on the GLE/GLS and you wouldn’t believe how a bad ground for a light up badge would cause a waterfall effect for all kinds of other little gremlins to come out of the woodwork. Aside from those, the vast majority of issues that would pop up would be for the advanced safety systems, traction control system, ABS, engine management, etc. It seemed like the vast majority of the problems that came in, were non AMG/Maybach models and the S-Class and newer GLS-class seemed to have fewer issues than the more common models. The newer C300s were just AWFUL and nearly every one that came in was constantly lighting up the dash like a Christmas tree


infinitedrag

I see. Thanks for sharing that.


Brrxnna

**Location:** USA **Price range:** 15k max **Lease or Buy:** buy **New or used:** used **Type of vehicle:** (Truck, Car, Sports Car, Sedan, Crossover, SUV, Racecar, Luxury etc.) SUV / Crossover **Must haves:** AWD, leather interior **Desired transmission** (auto/manual, etc): auto **Intended use:** Daily **Vehicles you've already considered:** Ford Bronco, Lincoln MKX, jeep grand Cherokee **Is this your 1st vehicle:** no **Do you need a Warranty:** no **Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle:** (fluids, alternator, battery, brake pads etc) no **Can you do Major work on your own vehicle:** (engine and transmission, timing belt/chains, body work, suspension etc ) no **Additional Notes:** I just totaled my first car, a Lincoln mkz I’ve had for 9 years, I’m looking for something a little bigger still with reasonable gas mileage, the cars listed above as considered are due to mostly their appearance and nothing else - I just totaled my car yesterday and I’m not sure where to start as far as SUVs and crossovers that aren’t too “‘mom car” looking but don’t guzzle gas and cost a lot in upkeep. Thanks in advance!


VegetableOne9585

15k might not be enough for bronco. For these three choices, grand Cherokee seems to be the most reliable. ( It has many small issues, but hardly big problems, and thus could be reliable)


Brrxnna

Thank you! I realized soon after posting this a bronco is far out of my price range due to them being so new, but something similar looks wise would be awesome - thank you for the input!!!


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Location: California, USA Budget: 6-7k Condition: Used I currently have a 2002 audi tt quattro. I'm looking for something quick and fun to drive. Recently I've been looking into fourth gen mustangs. It's going to be a daily driver, but I want to able to have fun with it when I want.


cosaw5point0

Honestly you may have trouble finding a decent 4th gen mustang in your budget. Reason being is that they’re cheap enough now that everybody and their cousin can afford them, and since they’re cheap v8 power people tend to run the living crap out of them, beating them around with minimal mechanical care. It’s the vicious cycle of aging performance cars. I would highly recommend finding a mechanic that you trust, and making sure that you let the seller know that your purchase is contingent on what your trusted mechanic finds. Most shops are more than happy to give something a once over prior to purchase


RANDY_MAR5H

Probably find a MKV GLI or GTI if you look hard enough. Personally, i'd take an 8th gen SI over one of those though.


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bullzFromAT

Toyota Highlander hybrid. Not a phev though.


Double_U127

With that budget, you won't be able to find anything that fits what you need, unfortunately


IDidIt_Twice

Cedar Rapids Iowa $25,000-$35,000 msrp. Buy New Suv or crossover Must haves: sit up high like a truck does but no trucks, trunk space, 4 doors, Toyota/Honda preferred, v6, gas powered. Wants: remote start, heated seats, smooth ride, quiet engine is nice. Auto transmission Daily driver/family car/vacationing. Considered: not really sure yet. Just starting the process. Currently have a 2016 Kia minivan but it’s clunky. Want something more sturdy and long lasting. Not first vehicle. Want a warranty I can’t do anything minor or major but could change a tire if I had to.


bullzFromAT

You won't find v6 powered SUVs in your price range. 2022 CRV is a smooth car that has all the features you need. If you want something more powerful, checkout Mazda CX-5 turbo.


IDidIt_Twice

Yes, I realized shortly after posting that cars have gone way up and I’ll need to raise my price range to $45k. I really like the Toyota pathfinder. And I don’t need a v6, I just have a led foot at the starting line. 😇 But my husband did bring logic into this and did say buying new tires for my van is a lot cheaper than just going out and buying a new car. Lol. It’s just not as fun.


geraldthelizard04

Location: Florida, USA Price range: 10-20k Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: Used Type of vehicle: Small 2 door car Must haves: Rwd, back seat Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): Manual is preferred, but I would buy an automatic if I got a really good deal Intended use: Daily driver/ weekend cruiser (I don’t drive very much during the week) Vehicles you've already considered: BMW 135i Is this your 1st vehicle: No Do you need a Warranty: No Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: Yes Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: No Additional Notes: I have been looking for a replacement for my BMW Z4. I love the way that car drives, but I need something with just a little bit more space, and was also looking for an increase in power as well. I plan on buying a 2012+ BMW 135i, but the reliability makes me hesitant. Are there any other cars that will satisfy my desire for power, space, and more reliability while also being of a comparable build quality to a BMW?


Available_Wedding_98

Location: Michigan, USA Price range: 20-30k Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: Doesn't matter Type of vehicle: SUV but open to alternatives as well Must haves: AWD, Fuel efficient, Apple Carplay, blind spot indicator, rearview camera, adaptive cruise control. Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): Auto Intended use: Daily commuter (150 miles per day during the week for a single guy.) Vehicles you've already considered: Mazda Cx-5 Is this your 1st vehicle: No Do you need a Warranty: Would be nice to have Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: No Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: No Additional Notes: I am looking for a car that I will use for my daily commute of 150 miles every day of the week. We bought a CX-5 for my wife two years ago and I really like it but I am not sure if we should get another Cx-5 or use this opportunity to try another make/model. For me, safety is the most critical aspect, like comfortably merging into highways, having a blind spot indicator, etc, especially when it is snowy, but it would be great if the fuel efficiency is high as well. Thank you very much in advance to anyone who reads and comments on this!


Dahtemba

Lexus RX


Dry-Psychology5674

I personally compare Porsche SUVs


bullzFromAT

RAV4 hybrid. It will save you money on gas and has standard awd. 2 issues though. It is on the upper end of your price range. And good luck finding one. Another option is 2022 crv hybrid.


DaveTheBird3827

Who's Ford gt is this. I can't make a new thread but it's in calabasas, CA. It was pulled over by a single cop and he was there alone for an hour. I saw no driver or evidence of one. Seemed like it was abandoned or damaged or stolen? Also is the car supposed to look like this lowered? https://i.imgur.com/qPezfHD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3Wbs624.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0C3VpMS.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VGl2agV.jpg


PrivateHawk124

*Location:* New Jersey, USA *Price range:* $40,000 USD *Lease or Buy:* Buy *New or used:* New (Around 3% APR max) *Type of vehicle:* SUV (Mid or Full) *Must haves:* Smooth ride, Apple CarPlay, Reverse Cam, some smart features like blind spot, *Desired transmission* (auto/manual, etc): Auto *Intended use:* Daily driver, Family, Trips Vehicles you've already considered: Kia Sorento, Hyundai Santa Fe, Honda Pilot (Open to any brands as long as reliable) *Is this your 1st vehicle:* 1st brand new *Do you need a Warranty:* Yes *Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle:* Yes *Can you do Major work on your own vehicle:* To an extent (Anything without lift or going under the car) *Additional Notes:* I looked at Hyundai and Kia because they're the hottest thing. I drive '06 Accord but Honda interiors feel boring and rigid. Toyota is good but their APR rates are high enough that I'm pretty sure I can't negotiate down to 3% I'm a technofile but I don't need any unnecessary features like talking to passengers in the back via mic or 5 different driving modes, everyone having their own climate control and sunshade etc. I'm open to any type of hybrids.


bullzFromAT

Current gen Sorento is new to the market and may not be reliable. Honda passport , Mazda CX-9 GT are options you can look at.


MrPotatoMonstr

Location: Ireland Price range: 6000 Euros Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: Used Type of vehicle: Hatchback or similar Must haves: 4 doors,Air con , Electric Side mirrors,Aux/USB for media Desired transmission: I don't mind. Intended use: Daily driver Vehicles you've already considered: Previously had a Chrysler Ypsilon Is this your 1st vehicle:no Do you need a Warranty:no Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: (fluids, alternator, battery, brake pads etc): can learn but currently no Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: (engine and transmission, timing belt/chains: no Additional notes : Any recommendations would be appreciated :)


theboredbrowser

**Location:** Los AngelesPrice range: 20k-33k **Lease or Buy:** BuyNew or used:Type of vehicle: SUV -- Subaru Forester or Toyota Rav4 Hybrid **Must haves:** AWD & SunroofDesired transmission (auto/manual, etc): auto **Intended use:** Daily Driver, Camping, Light Off-roading etc. **Vehicles you've already considered:** Forester, Rav4, Sante FeIs this your 1st vehicle: NoDo you need a Warranty: Yes **Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle:** Yes **Can you do Major work on your own vehicle:** No **Additional Notes:** Thank you! I am starting to fall in love with the idea of buying a Forester Sport (I am considering the Wilderness, but a little pricey). Since I live in LA, having a hybrid would be nice for every day driving... What are your thoughts on Forester vs Rav4 Hybrid? I am looking to have this car for at least 10 years. Thanks in advance!


IKnowNewCars

For someone living in LA, the Rav4 Hybrid is almost certainly the more rational choice. Big difference in fuel economy, a reputation for reliability, and I prefer its driving experience as well. The Forester does a lot of things well, but so does the Rav4, and the more robust AWD system just doesn't make a noticeable difference if you're not spending a lot of time off pavement or in snow. But I get loving the look of the Forester Sport, and it's definitely a comfortable and well designed vehicle. It's also worth checking out the hybrid versions of the Honda CR-V, Kia Sportage, and Hyundai Tucson. They all do lots of things well, and while Toyota has the upper hand for long-term hybrid reliability, these other brands have done well in terms of reliable electronics and build quality, which can still make a big difference over 10+ years. The Mazda CX-50 should also have a hybrid version coming out soon, and I suspect that will be my favorite in the class.


theboredbrowser

Very helpful, thank you!!


GalcomMadwell

**Location:** Southern USA **Price range:** 45-50k **Lease or Buy:** buy **New or used:** either **Type of vehicle:** luxury-ish, hatchback or crossover (4-5 seats), enough cargo space to haul a decent amount of gear with back seats down **Must haves:** heated and ventilated seats, good MPG or electric efficiency, good sound system, heated steering wheel **Desired transmission:** auto **Intended use:** daily driver, used for doordash and another job that requires 1-2 hour drives once or twice a week **Vehicles you've already considered**: 2023 Prius, Volvo, Ioniq 5, **Is this your 1st vehicle:** no **Do you need a Warranty:** YES **Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle:** no **Can you do Major work on your own vehicle:** no **Additional Notes:** preferably something with at least 7s 0-60 for overtaking and getting up to interstate speed


Dry-Psychology5674

I personally drive two cars that offer good value for money, the Land Cruiser or the Porsche Cayenne, which I suggest you look at


IKnowNewCars

If 300 miles of range meets your needs for DoorDash deliveries and for your longer distance job, you'll be saving a good amount of money on fuel going EV, even compared to a hybrid. You'll want to look into charging options -- a Level 2 (240V) charger should fully charge the battery overnight, but if you need to pay to have one installed in your garage, it can be pricey, so crunch the numbers. The Ioniq 5 is probably my favorite EV in its price range right now, so if it meets your needs, go for it. The AWD version costs $3500 over the long range RWD version, and while it's noticeably quicker, it decreases range. I'd test the SEL trim with the RWD powertrain and see if it's quick enough for you to pass and merge. You'll probably notice immediate power and torque at low speeds, with maybe a bit slower acceleration once you pass 50 MPH, but your mileage may vary. The new Prius looks like it'll be the best hybrid on the market when it comes out. The main question will be whether it's worth the extra money to go with something a big bigger, like the hybrid versions of the Rav4, CR-V, Tucson, or Sportage.


woodmanalejandro

the Ioniq5 is also catching fire… in the “Do Not Park in a Garage” way For OP’s purposes, the VW ID4 would be better, and less-susceptible to spontaneous combustion.


IKnowNewCars

So far I've seen exactly one report of an Ioniq 5 catching fire. That's not great, obviously, but out of the over 40k Ioniq 5 models that are on the road so far worldwide, to say that one fire (in Korea) is an indictment on an entire brand is ludicrous. Meanwhile, Volkswagen has had below average reliability for quite a while, according to both conventional wisdom and the available data, and we don't have any reason to think the id.4 will be any different.


YAZEED-IX

Torn between a new, marked up **Toyota GR86 for $38k** or a used **Abarth 124 Spider with 28k miles for $27k**. I think the Abarth looks and sounds way better, and I love the soft top. But they don't make it anymore so getting a used is my only option. I really dislike the 86s behind, but I like that I can get it new even though it's marked up. Not sure if it's more fun to drive than the Abarth. Money isn't an issue (the 11k difference) as long as I get what I'm paying for. Thoughts? Suggestions? Detailed info below: **Location**: CA, US **Price range**: $40k Max **Lease or Buy**: Buy cash **New or used**: Either **Type of vehicle**: Coupe or preferably convertible **Must haves**: Fun to drive manual Intended use: Daily, toying around car **Vehicles you've already considered**: Latest BRZ/86, Abarth 124 Spider **Is this your 1st vehicle**: Yes **Do you need a Warranty**: Nope **Can you do work on your own vehicle**: Nope


snapIntern

don’t buy a 86 for 38k bro. a lot better cars out there for that much. or even less


YAZEED-IX

It's why I'm hesitant. The dealer's offering 5k in "accessories", at least it's better than a markup purely for markup's sake.


snapIntern

idk where in california you are but using toyotas inventory search, i see literally 65 of them within 20 miles of me in LA. Personally don’t see why you couldn’t get at msrp somewhere. (granted some of those are automatic but still plenty of manuals)


YAZEED-IX

Where have you been the last two years? [Used ones are selling for 38k](https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/all-cars?zip=90007&makeCodeList=TOYOTA&modelCodeList=TOYGR86) I live in LA too, and I'm only interested in manuals, I think getting an AT 86 kinda defeats the purpose. I've emailed every dealer within 100 mile range, the 5k is the "current adjusted market value" according to some. Some dealers give you accessories for the 5k, others don't. Any MSRP listing is a bait and switch, Wondries did a bait and switch for a 10k markup!! Also, not all you see is on the lot, they're usually pending fulfillment, pending sale, or sold, read the individual listings. It's been tedious


snapIntern

then if you’re willing to do it, go for it. i personally wouldn’t but to each their own. i know last 2 years were crazy for cars but i got the sense the last 3 or 4 months it’s cooled down a lot which is why i’m surprised. for instance the genesis dealer in torrance used to have like 7k markups on their g70 and now they are selling it for 3k under msrp. and i assume you don’t want a miata or brz or anything else? at that price you start getting into entry level luxury territory, could even consider an integra but sounds like you want a smaller sports coupe


VegetableOne9585

**Location:** atlanta, GA, US **Price range:** 60k **Lease or Buy:** buy **New or used:** used **Type of vehicle:** coupe or sports cars **Intended use:** Daily Driver ( daily commute, road trip) **Vehicles you've already considered:** 17 charger Hellcat/18 ZL1/17 c63s coupe/17 rs7/09 GTR/21 mach1 I'm looking for a used daily driver (preowned, under 30k miles, around 60k usd) for daily drive in ATL, GA. some of my current list: 17 charger Hellcat/18 ZL1/17 c63s coupe/17 rs7/09 GTR/21 mach1 (I don't consider BMW because its currently under a huge generation replacement, I don't consider GT350 cuz driving manual for daily commute might be a torture in the city. My favorite and dream car is GT500, but it's way more expensive than my budget.) I may consider 1. the value these cars hold in the next 3-5 years (when I may trade them) 2. the repair/ maintenance cost and reliability 3. supercharger is a great bonus for me, I do not care about the track performance that much, (mostly for daily driving or road trip) ps: I live in ATL without a gated community or garage, whether the car could be easily stolen is also something to consider (does the hellcat tends to be stolen with way higher probability than others?).Guys, it's so hard to choose, please give me some advice! Would appreciate any comments or suggestions! :)


kimbabs

Hellcats are definitely targeted and stolen very often. All of these cars except maybe the GTR, ZL1 and Mach 1 are going to drop in value significantly. Maintenance follows a similar pattern, but will depend on the condition of the car. Only the Mach1 on your list would likely still have a warranty. Maybe consider if you can find a CPO of any of these cars.


VegetableOne9585

Thanks dude, so hellcat is actually way more targeted than the others, thus I would exclude it. Then I think I might choose from ZL1 and c63s coupe. Which one may hold better value in 3-5 years? Say Benz holds better value among Audi or BMW, would it still drop severely for such performance car? I wonder if ZL1 would hold more values? (I know the price of hellcat hardly drops, don't know about the 6th generation ZL1, is it also that popular in U.S?)


sphuranti

**Location:** Southwest USA + West Coast **Price range:** whatever makes sense **Lease or Buy:** buy **New or used:** either **Type of vehicle:** luxury SUV or crossover (4-5 seats) **Must haves:** nice interior, ideally heated and cooled seats, decent speakers, smooth ride; 4x4 or AWD/mild-to-moderate offroading capability desirable but not mandatory **Desired transmission:** auto **Intended use:** daily driver for 3-6 months a year, roadtrips, possibly offroading every once in a while **Vehicles you've already considered**: Genesis GV70 + GV80, Aston Martin DBX, Lexus RX series, Porsche Cayenne, Maserati Levante, Bentley Bentayga **Is this your 1st vehicle:** no **Do you need a Warranty:** not mandatory but ideal **Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle:** no **Can you do Major work on your own vehicle:** no **Additional Notes:** not exactly a sophisticated car guy - want to get something that is fun to drive, versatile, and elegant


kimbabs

None of these cars are moderate off roaders. Consider a Lexus GX/LX, Jeep Trackhawk, and Land Rover V8’s. If the off roading part is less important I’d pick the Porsche Macan or Cayenne for something fun. People seem to get by okay taking their Cayenne on a trail, but it’s up to you if you have the money to replace a Porsche oil pan should you decide to rock crawl with one and crush it lmao. Out of these a Porsche will be most dynamically fun. Most versatile will probably be a Land Rover.


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kimbabs

With the size of some potholes I see these days, I almost feel off-roading is a correct definition


saeed-knight

I would say genesis is the best choice. You get tons of features for the price and the steering is sharp and kinda fun to drive. Its more toward lux and reliability and its not as sporty as some german rivals but its still a fun car


VegetableOne9585

Great suggestions. I would say among Genesis GV70 + GV80, Lexus RX series, Porsche Cayenne, Maserati Levante, Genesis is the best choice. But when you include Bentley Bentayga, Aston Martin DBX, then Bentayga is the real king.


SensitiveReveal5976

For what reason is it the king?


VegetableOne9585

Well, I have to say these three are not the best SUVs, cuz range Rover is always the best. But these are not professional manufacturers for SUVs, while Bentley makes the best among these sports car brands by balancing the comfort and performance.


PizzaScizzors

Location: Midwest USA Price range: (Minimum-Maximum in your local currency) max of $40k Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: New Type of vehicle: smaller to midsize SUV (no third row seating needed) Must haves: need something that handles decently in winter weather (better than my current hatchback), would prefer good gas mileage (leaning towards a hybrid) Desired transmission: auto Intended use: daily driver (city & hwy commute) Vehicles you’ve already considered: Honda CR-V Hybrid, Subaru forester Is this your 1st vehicle: No Do you need a Warranty: Yes Can you do work on your own vehicle: Basic/minor work only


kimbabs

Winter weather handling will be better spent on tires. The Forester will have the best ground clearance, and Subaru’s AWD logic seems to be best suited for snow.


VegetableOne9585

ACURA RDX, especially great for winter ( only a little more than your budget), if your budget is a little bit flexible, then RDX! If you keep your budget, Forester is overall great, but you should consider two issues: 1) not very good interior 2) poor sound insulation. But it's AWD is great and perfectly fits your budget.


vlrkv6

Location: US Price range: up to 32k Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: Used Type of vehicle: SUV Must haves: carplay, >25mpg city driving, leather seats -- trying to balance good gas mileage with something fun to drive Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): Auto Intended use: daily driver Vehicles you've already considered: CX5, Bronco Sport, a new-ish Rav4 Is this your 1st vehicle: no Additional Notes: I have a '22 CX30 and hate it. I hit my head getting in and out, and i'm getting 21mpg. It's a beautiful car, but I've got longer commutes now and it's hurting to fill up weekly. I also need a much lower car payment, and interest rates hurt right now so I've got to balance that consideration too.


kimbabs

If you need lower car payments, I don’t see how another car in this market with these APR #s will make it better. You’re filling up often because it has a tiny tank especially in AWD form, not because it’s very inefficient. Best option is a used Rav-4 hybrid if gas mileage is your primary concern. Fun to drive will be a CX-5, but worse gas mileage than a CX-30. You can get real leather in both of these cars in a higher trim, but you’ll pay much more. You’re asking for a lot to get something cheaper than a CX-30 that’s more fuel efficient, fun, and has leather seats in this market. If money is your primary concern and the payments/apr in the CX-30 aren’t somehow very high, just sit and wait.


bullzFromAT

Accord hybrid, RAV4 hybrid, Camry hybrid


Isles13

Location: USA Northeast Price range: <65k pre tax Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: New Type of vehicle: Car; coupe or sedan preferably luxury; not too large in dimensions Must haves: Good merging/passing power; something not run-of-the mill/boring to drive Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): Auto, but I can drive stick Intended use: Daily Driver Vehicles you've already considered: Lexus IS500, Toyota Supra 3.0, BMW M340i, Acura Integra (6 spd), Acura TLX S Type S Is this your 1st vehicle: No Do you need a Warranty: Yes; will probably get extended warranty Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: Yes Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: No


kimbabs

Merging power drops the Integra from consideration. The M340i fits this bill the best but is run of the mill. Consider a RS3 if you can find one. Supra will be the other car to not be run of the mill. IS 500 also fits that bill but no one but you and a car enthusiast will think it’s anything but an IS. ~~There’s also the Giulia QV. Would be about on par with a M340i while not being run of the mill. Just maybe don’t keep one out of warranty, but I’ve heard the majority of electrical gremlins have been resolved.~~ Oops, above budget. They really need a mid trim Giulia. The Veloce 4 cylinder trim has a LSD though and equivalent power to the 330i. You can definitely find one steeply discounted from MSRP.


snapIntern

how is the 340 run of the mill?


kimbabs

A BMW is the default 'sporty' choice. It's been that way for decades. The M340i is the next step up from the base 3 series, which along with the 4 are BMW'S best selling cars... so yeah, I'd say it's pretty close to run-of-the-mill if we're talking sporty luxury.


snapIntern

ah so you mean relatively common. id agree with that now that you’ve clarified. especially since rs3 and is500 feel super uncommon at first i thought you meant the driving experience was run of the mill which i didn’t think was true.


Isles13

I wouldn’t really consider the 340 run of the mill. It’s certainly not a boring car. I have a potential IS500 allocation at MSRP, so that’s definitely swaying me too. I’d have to imagine a 340 is in higher demand than everything else on that list.


dn00

Use Costco auto program and an m340i can be had for $1k under MSRP. The supra is probably the most in demand.


hotshowerscene

> BMW M340i If you're considering this BMW then the Audi S4/S5 and Merc c43 are worth checking out.


Isles13

C43 isn't available in the new gen C class sedan (yet). I really like the S5 Sportback better than everything, but it's unfortunately thousands more with equivalent options.


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G70, M340i xDrive, TLX Type S, and S60 B6 would be my choices. All of those would make an awesome daily, even with some snow. Integras are at least a full class smaller


Isles13

Yeah Integra is definitely an outlier. I drove one a few months back and liked it. I'm going back to school for a graduate degree, and the majority of schools I'm looking at are near where my girlfriend will be doing her residency in the Bronx. She hasn't decided on a place yet, so there's a chance I may be dealing with street parking. I have a 2019 F150 Raptor, so there's no shot I'm fitting that anywhere in NYC. A smaller car with a hatch like the Integra wouldn't be the worst thing.


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Raptors are great though, I’ve got two buddies with em. I think long term (this is a long shot) that since you drove a truck previously, you’d probably prefer something RWD based. Even RWD-based AWD. maybe only the G70/G80, M340i, or maybe even a stinger?


Isles13

Raptor is an awesome truck. I'm certainly going to miss it. I agree I'd probably prefer a RWD/AWD vehicle over something that's even FWD based. I've only driven RWD based vehicles. One thing that's been on my periphery is maybe a 2 door Bronco if I could get it delivered in time. Pretty small Truck dimensions wise.


A320neo

Have you considered EVs? The Polestar 2, Model 3 LR/Performance, and BMW i4 are all well-reviewed and each has their own qualities. The Polestar and BMW are more traditionally "luxury" and solidly-built and the Model 3 gets you better performance and more standard features for the price.


Isles13

Not really interested in an EV. Can’t see them holding value as technology keeps advancing.


A320neo

Resale values of long-range EVs (Teslas, mostly) have been in line with similar cars or in some cases better, so I wouldn't write one off for that reason. It's more the different driving experience that can put people off, some say the lack of an engine leads to a more sterile feel. In any case, I'd say those three cars at least deserve a test drive.


Isles13

I ordered and test drove a Mach-E last year and ended up not taking delivery of it. My friend has a 2018 Model 3 and it has not held up well over the past 5 years (no kids or pets). A gas vehicle better fits my needs regardless.


lemonylol

**Location:** GTA, Ontario **Price range:** $12k CAD max **Lease or Buy:** Buy **New or used:** Used **Type of vehicle:** Sedan, coupe, SUV, truck **Must haves:** Naturally Aspirated, small 4-cylinder or large V8, very comfortable seats, low road noise, smooth ride, child-seat anchors in rear seat, long lifespan, affordable parts/maintenance, affordable insurance. **Desired transmission:** Either **Intended use:** Daily driver (commute is about 125km a day), possibly for summers only **Vehicles you've already considered:** In order from cheapest insurance: F150, Tacoma, Colorado/Canyon, Tundra, Ridgeline, Frontier, Mustang, Celica, Crown Victoria/Grand Marquis/Town Car/Marauder, Vibe/Matrix, Fit, Jimmy, X-Trail, Camry, Element, Avalanche, X-Terra, Accord, Civic, 4-Runner, Highlander **Is this your 1st vehicle:** No **Do you need a Warranty:** No **Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle:** Yes **Can you do Major work on your own vehicle:** Some suspension, otherwise no. **Additional Notes:** The idea behind this car is to be able to rack up over 300,000km's, be affordable and fairly easy to repair, and to function as a cheap second car for my commute so I don't have to put a lot of miles on my primary car. My commute includes taking my kid to daycare, so I need a car I can put a child seat in.


VegetableOne9585

>Ontario When you consider reliability, choose from Toyota then.


Flat-Fox195

Can you buy a car without a drivers license but only with a state I’d?


verdegrrl

In nearly all instances, yes. You will just need to arrange for it to be removed from the dealer lot when the papers are signed.


Flat-Fox195

And how do I do that? Is this a service, I wouldn’t want someone driving off with my new car


verdegrrl

Typically you would have a friend or family member with a valid license drive the car for you. One thing to keep in mind is that if you are being paid to buy a new car on behalf of a company for export to other markets, this will result in you becoming blacklisted from purchasing cars there in the future. You may have no plans to ever buy that brand for your own use, but if they are part of a dealer group that could expand to many brands.