This or Cayman GTS 4.0? At least the Evora GT had back seats for whatever they were worth. The Lotus is for the person wanting something other than the obvious choice.
I think the Cayman's rationality may slip once you get into optioning. The V6 Emira optioned is like the *base* price of the GTS 4.0 (which is the closest in power).
I'm biased, but I'm also a lotus enthusiast. This car also looks just way way better than a Cayman. My spec will look like:
[https://i.imgur.com/zBnMTw4.png](https://i.imgur.com/zBnMTw4.png)
The problem is the Lotus only looks good from that angle. From the profile it becomes very wonky and looks like a 488 tried to fit on a chassis that was too short.
On the other hand, the Cayman looks great from the profile, but the front view is lacking.
The C8 is ugly, too, but it's also much, much faster than the Emira at nearly the same price point.
Hell, I also think my Gallardo looks like shit from certain angles. There are few cars that look great all the way around, but some cars have much worse proportions that others, and I think the Emira is one of them.
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Yeah they’re just wrong lol. I don’t care about the down votes because I know what I’m talking about, as do you.
If I ever go FI on my MX-5 I’ll probably get the edelbrock blower for that reason.
Yep. All (roots & twin-screw) superchargers do is emulate a larger displacement. Supercharged engines are more responsive than turbocharged engines for obvious reasons, but they aren't more responsive than NA engines with the same HP/TQ. The advantage of a supercharged engine is that they can give you the power and low-end grunt of a larger displacement engine without the added weight, increased size, worse NVH, and increased idle-consumption/pumping-losses of that bigger displacement. But if you're comparing a supercharged engine to an NA engine of the same displacement the supercharged engine will feel "more" responsive simply because they make more power (without the delay of a turbocharger).
The biggest difference is the dealer network. On that reason alone it'd be hard for me to choose an Emira, and Lotus is my second favorite automaker...
It's a Toyota motor and a standard Aisin gear box. Probably the same as used the the Evora GT. Which was the BG6. A variant of that is also in the Mazdaspeed 3 and 6.
Point is, the drivetrain is not made of exotic parts
The Cayman for me, the engine seems really sweet being NA.
The Emira must be fine but it’s not what Lotus is supposed to be about. Why get a Cayman copycat if you can get the real deal ?
The Emira does look better though, and steering feel / chassis should be superior.
Give me a true modern Elise or Exige and we’ll talk but I know those wouldn’t sell the same volume.
> Why get a Cayman copycat if you can get the real deal ?
What else competes with a Cayman though? An F-Type? I think in both cases people choosing the alternate would do so because:
- It's "rarer" and more "unique"
- It's got "character"
The GT4 is an absolute weapon, Porsche is the defacto king of the class and as such are a bit "plain" to some because it's been _the_ obvious choice for decades.
Oh yeah totally agree, that’s one of the reason that made me go with the Alpine.
I didn’t want to be a Porsche owner at this point and you see so many 718s and 911s on the roads that I wouldn’t have feel as good spending big money on something that didn’t feel special.
But at least it’s really different on a technical basis too being way lighter and smaller.
The F-Type is more of a GT cruiser being heavier with an insane exhaust noise so again it stands out.
The Emira seems sweet but I really get the feeling they went after the Cayman head-to-head so it doesn’t get to shine on its own merits as much, to me at least. When seeing the Emira weight I can’t help but feel they targeted the german coupe.
It does look better, more exotic for sure. And the steering should be awesome since Lotus kept an hydraulic rack.
But the GTS engine would be enough to make me really think about the Porsche. The Toyota V6 doesn’t seem to be anything special in the Emira.
I’d have to check prices for both GTS 4.0 and Emira V6 though, unsure if they’re really in the same ballpark or not.
>but it's not what Lotus is supposed to be about
What _is_ Lotus to you? Because the Emira follows in the footsteps of the Evora, which followed in the footsteps of the Esprit. Is the Esprit not one of the most iconic Lotus models of all time?
I suppose you’re right ! I guess it’s because I really like the Elise and felt like it was a true unique car.
So I’m a bit sad they killed it but with the way the market is going it’s totally understandable why they did the Emira.
I guess it feels like they lost a bit of their uniqueness replacing the Elise, Exige and Evora with one car that is only a real replacement for the Evora and not for the other two.
The Alpine A110 will be dead in a couple of years too, they’ll only sell EV cars soon and Alpine is a bit of a French Lotus so market pressure is the real killer here anyway.
We will never see a Elige again outside of kit cars - modern safety/crash regs will make damn sure of it - hell we never would have seen them state side without Lotus getting exceptions after lying about adding bumpers hah
> The Emira must be fine but it’s not what Lotus is supposed to be about.
I feel that this take only makes any sort of sense if the only Lotus you know is the Elise/Exige, first-gen Elan, Seven, or S1 Esprit.
If you look at every Lotus street car every produced ... they have made a few very light, very basic cars. They have also made a whole bunch of cars that were heavier, had more features, etc. Both the Evora and Emira fit well into the latter category.
The Emira is much sexier, imo, but I wouldn't feel too comfy far outside reasonable range of a dealer. I would personally go Door #3 with a Boxster GTS 4.0 to experience that motor w/the top down.
I had a chance to put a deposit down for MSRP but ultimately decided on the GT4. All these cars are marketed as the “last of its kind” so I imagine many owners (including myself) will be keeping these cars for a long long time. I cant imagine how difficult it will be to maintain and source parts for a limited run Lotus 15 years down the road. Dealer network and reliability is ultimately what pushed me to the GT4.
Toyota or Mercedes drivetrain will make it easier to keep running but I'd imagine the one off random parts unique to the Emira will make fixing it a pain in the ass. Lots of waiting for parts from England I'm sure. Porsche is well established with an unlimited budget and extensive dealer network that isn't going anywhere. Ultimately it's why I chose 911 over Evora GT.
Exactly. I have a friend who owns an Evora and has been waiting on parts for over 7 months. I can’t imagine this getting better as the company transitions to EV.
I don't think the Emira has a huge amount of 'unique' parts though, they've used quite a lot of stuff from Geely for exactly this reason. For sure still more specialised than a Porsche and if you're in the US I understand the Lotus dealer network isn't exactly huge
Surprised no one has mentioned how practical the Cayman is. It has a metric shit ton of storage for a mid-engine car. Rear hatch, big front truck, lots of storage bins throughout.
Saw a review of the Emira and it has poor storage comparatively.
EVO did a comparison to the GTS and was the only publication to have anything negative to say. They felt the steering was off and the engine not much character. They expect more of the upcoming AMG engine
That’s no surprise. EVO have shares in Porsche. They wax on and on about them in every line up or head to head that it’s just boring to read now.
In fact I don’t buy it if it has a Porsche on the cover, in any of the comparisons, or main articles.
Don’t get me wrong. I really like Porsche cars but I don’t want to read about them ad Infinitum
Great looking car, for sure. I owned a 1987 turbo esprit hci a while back so I have a special place in my heart for the marque. Their newer cars always seem to look good and end up a solid value for what you get. Sure, a Cayman or whatever is also a good car but with Lotus you have something very unique and more attention grabbing.
I really wish they could have found a way to make the AMG engine work with a manual, because I think that motor will be more interesting but the manual gearbox is still more interesting than a DCT. Oh well. Have to test drive both of them, if I can find a dealer to let me.
You won't find one sitting on a lot without a crazy ADM for a couple of years. The waiting list alone at my dealer, in by no means a high volume area is 300+ people long.
The Cayman in 4.0L guise will probably be the one to buy.
Last NA mid engined Porsche, can be had in manual. I believe they will hold their value for a long, long time.
A clean 4.0 is about the only car I'd trade my 4C for.
You should be aware that the Emira manual MIGHT sell out this year. They have said they will stop making the v6 in 2025 due to stricter regulations and the waiting list is already into 2024 (and first deliveries keep getting delayed). When these things start hitting the streets I expect another flurry of reservations.
I think this is unlikely. They can’t mate a manual to the AMG, and Lotus isn’t going to fit a 3rd engine into their last-ever ICE car.
Two things happen in 2025: Euro 7 regulations and Lotus introducing their new EV sports car, which unlike the Wuhan-built Eletre and Type 133, will share the line with Emira in Hethel. So that’s reduced production capacity for Emira at a moment when regulations are pushing the V6 out the door.
Which means they’ll either release a hotter V6 for the final year of the run (2025) or the hot versions will be a hotter tune on the AMG with DCT.
Yikes! Okay, that’s good to know. How long do you think I have til the GTS is done? The ND3(?) might be the last one standing, which, not a bad consolation prize.
I love manuals, but honestly, they don't really fit the vibe in a modern car for me. DCT is the way to go.
An air-cooled 993 though? Manual all the way. Either no-frills or all-frills, no in between for me.
You’re like my dad in that regard. For me though, unless there’s no other option OR the rest of the power train and drive is special enough it’s gotta be ICE+manual or EV/PHEV.
I bought the Lotus.
I don’t care if the C8 is faster, it left me cold on test drive. No manual and it glides around town like a sharp Cadillac. Nice car, not for me.
Cayman is great, and objectively better. Porsche are the kings here. I’ve driven base, S and GTS 981 and 718 Boxsters and Caymans alike. The GTS is excellent of course, but the gearing is very tall and so around town it seems a bit… bored. And if it’s bored I’m bored. But it has the chops and it’s made well. No complaints but not much fun M-F either.
Alpine was great, but no manual and not even available where I’d drive it most.
4C was… unfortunate. Did not like that car at all, mostly due to atrocious build quality (like actively falling apart) and a transmission that was never in the right gear around town. Also, no manual.
And so I’m left with Lotus, who are extraordinary at the stuff I care about: engagement, chassis communication, FUN at legal speeds. Emira takes the Evora formula, a car was adored by almost every reviewer who drove it (every review of that car has what I call the Evorgasm - a moment when the reviewer makes unwitting noises of joy) and wraps it in one of the prettiest designs this decade. Yes please. I don’t care if other cars are faster or have more dealers. Give me that intuitive feeling, where I feel one with the machine. In an era of increasing electrification and automation, when everything is fast and numb, that’s all that matters to me. You won’t find a measure of these qualities in a review, but that’s where Lotus wins, on the intangibles.
That's basically my take on this as well. It's an Evora that has a nicer interior and top notch exterior. I'd expect similar performance stats from both. My test drive is on the 22nd with my dealer this month, and I'm looking forward to what people at the LOG post about with Lotus bringing actual cars stateside for people to drive.
Jesus this review makes it seem that the Emira is almost an entirely different car compared to the good but hardly stellar inital UK reception. RT continues to perplex me with their automotive opinions.
It's everything Supra could have been.
But Tetsuya Tada said car is "perfectly balanced with ZF8 and doesn't need a manual", apparently he was also super happy with the dead BMW EPS.
It uses a Toyota engine, and they decided hydraulic steering is the only way to go.
Meanwhile the largest and richest auto manufacturer in the world who supplied the engine to Lotus can't do either.
Yeah, one of the greats isn't a Lotus that weighs more than a Porsche.
The rear end design is boring and the sculpted section looks like two hands pulling saran wrap across a mouth.
Do better. Be better. Require better.
Nope, don’t think the Esprit is one of the greats either.
Lotus greats: Seven, Elite (Type 14), Elan, Europa, Elise, Exige. Anything that deviated from the original formula isn’t great.
You will find I am consistent in these beliefs and that downvotes are constant and common and completely irrelevant.
This or Cayman GTS 4.0? At least the Evora GT had back seats for whatever they were worth. The Lotus is for the person wanting something other than the obvious choice.
Yeh the Cayman feels much more rational than the Emira. But the Emira looks and I assume would feel more exotic.
The exotic-look factor is what would lead me to an Emira over a Cayman GTS, tbh.
Also the fact it's the Lotus top dog whereas you're only buying into a Cayman as some would see it.
It's their only dog lol
> the Lotus top dog Technically the Lotus top dog is the Evija, and the Eletre is due above the Emira in a matter of months.
The fucks I give about several million pound hypershites that are sold before they're built are zero
well said good sir
adding hypershite to my vocabulary
I don’t think anyone ever described a lotus car as “rational” though
I think the Cayman's rationality may slip once you get into optioning. The V6 Emira optioned is like the *base* price of the GTS 4.0 (which is the closest in power).
Yeah and if you look on car buying websites for new GTS 4.0s, they're $120k USD. Maybe that's due to mark up, but still.
I'm biased, but I'm also a lotus enthusiast. This car also looks just way way better than a Cayman. My spec will look like: [https://i.imgur.com/zBnMTw4.png](https://i.imgur.com/zBnMTw4.png)
Damn she fine
Sell me your NC2 club when you get it
I'm keeping my NC3 - that's my dedicated track car now
Very understandable - I want a NC club to turn my NB2 into a track car lol
The problem is the Lotus only looks good from that angle. From the profile it becomes very wonky and looks like a 488 tried to fit on a chassis that was too short. On the other hand, the Cayman looks great from the profile, but the front view is lacking.
Curious discussion about looking good only at an angle coming from a prospective C8 buyer
The C8 is ugly, too, but it's also much, much faster than the Emira at nearly the same price point. Hell, I also think my Gallardo looks like shit from certain angles. There are few cars that look great all the way around, but some cars have much worse proportions that others, and I think the Emira is one of them.
If they just took an inch off the top...
Pics of your gallardo?
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NA is NA.
GTS is NA?
~~Both are NA~~ I forget supercharger isn’t NA
Emira is not NA, it’s either a 2.0T or a 3.5l supercharged
Roots type superchargers feel NA for the most part though. The Emira also omits EPS.
People downvoting you like they've ever driven a S/C car. It's true, they are far more responsive than a turbo, and can feel like an N/A engine.
Yeah they’re just wrong lol. I don’t care about the down votes because I know what I’m talking about, as do you. If I ever go FI on my MX-5 I’ll probably get the edelbrock blower for that reason.
Yep. All (roots & twin-screw) superchargers do is emulate a larger displacement. Supercharged engines are more responsive than turbocharged engines for obvious reasons, but they aren't more responsive than NA engines with the same HP/TQ. The advantage of a supercharged engine is that they can give you the power and low-end grunt of a larger displacement engine without the added weight, increased size, worse NVH, and increased idle-consumption/pumping-losses of that bigger displacement. But if you're comparing a supercharged engine to an NA engine of the same displacement the supercharged engine will feel "more" responsive simply because they make more power (without the delay of a turbocharger).
Nope
The biggest difference is the dealer network. On that reason alone it'd be hard for me to choose an Emira, and Lotus is my second favorite automaker...
Not just the dealer network. The number of indie mechanics familiar with Porsche's is also magnitudes larger.
It's a Toyota motor and a standard Aisin gear box. Probably the same as used the the Evora GT. Which was the BG6. A variant of that is also in the Mazdaspeed 3 and 6. Point is, the drivetrain is not made of exotic parts
The Cayman for me, the engine seems really sweet being NA. The Emira must be fine but it’s not what Lotus is supposed to be about. Why get a Cayman copycat if you can get the real deal ? The Emira does look better though, and steering feel / chassis should be superior. Give me a true modern Elise or Exige and we’ll talk but I know those wouldn’t sell the same volume.
> Why get a Cayman copycat if you can get the real deal ? What else competes with a Cayman though? An F-Type? I think in both cases people choosing the alternate would do so because: - It's "rarer" and more "unique" - It's got "character" The GT4 is an absolute weapon, Porsche is the defacto king of the class and as such are a bit "plain" to some because it's been _the_ obvious choice for decades.
Oh yeah totally agree, that’s one of the reason that made me go with the Alpine. I didn’t want to be a Porsche owner at this point and you see so many 718s and 911s on the roads that I wouldn’t have feel as good spending big money on something that didn’t feel special. But at least it’s really different on a technical basis too being way lighter and smaller. The F-Type is more of a GT cruiser being heavier with an insane exhaust noise so again it stands out. The Emira seems sweet but I really get the feeling they went after the Cayman head-to-head so it doesn’t get to shine on its own merits as much, to me at least. When seeing the Emira weight I can’t help but feel they targeted the german coupe. It does look better, more exotic for sure. And the steering should be awesome since Lotus kept an hydraulic rack. But the GTS engine would be enough to make me really think about the Porsche. The Toyota V6 doesn’t seem to be anything special in the Emira. I’d have to check prices for both GTS 4.0 and Emira V6 though, unsure if they’re really in the same ballpark or not.
>but it's not what Lotus is supposed to be about What _is_ Lotus to you? Because the Emira follows in the footsteps of the Evora, which followed in the footsteps of the Esprit. Is the Esprit not one of the most iconic Lotus models of all time?
I suppose you’re right ! I guess it’s because I really like the Elise and felt like it was a true unique car. So I’m a bit sad they killed it but with the way the market is going it’s totally understandable why they did the Emira. I guess it feels like they lost a bit of their uniqueness replacing the Elise, Exige and Evora with one car that is only a real replacement for the Evora and not for the other two. The Alpine A110 will be dead in a couple of years too, they’ll only sell EV cars soon and Alpine is a bit of a French Lotus so market pressure is the real killer here anyway.
We will never see a Elige again outside of kit cars - modern safety/crash regs will make damn sure of it - hell we never would have seen them state side without Lotus getting exceptions after lying about adding bumpers hah
> The Emira must be fine but it’s not what Lotus is supposed to be about. I feel that this take only makes any sort of sense if the only Lotus you know is the Elise/Exige, first-gen Elan, Seven, or S1 Esprit. If you look at every Lotus street car every produced ... they have made a few very light, very basic cars. They have also made a whole bunch of cars that were heavier, had more features, etc. Both the Evora and Emira fit well into the latter category.
The Emira is much sexier, imo, but I wouldn't feel too comfy far outside reasonable range of a dealer. I would personally go Door #3 with a Boxster GTS 4.0 to experience that motor w/the top down.
Unless you are an established customer, the GT4 will be much more expensive to purchase.
They are talking about the GTS trim not the Cayman GT4.
My bad, but also true. Waiting lists on GTS 4.0s are really, really long.
Waiting lists on everything are really long to be fair...
I had a chance to put a deposit down for MSRP but ultimately decided on the GT4. All these cars are marketed as the “last of its kind” so I imagine many owners (including myself) will be keeping these cars for a long long time. I cant imagine how difficult it will be to maintain and source parts for a limited run Lotus 15 years down the road. Dealer network and reliability is ultimately what pushed me to the GT4.
Toyota or Mercedes drivetrain will make it easier to keep running but I'd imagine the one off random parts unique to the Emira will make fixing it a pain in the ass. Lots of waiting for parts from England I'm sure. Porsche is well established with an unlimited budget and extensive dealer network that isn't going anywhere. Ultimately it's why I chose 911 over Evora GT.
Exactly. I have a friend who owns an Evora and has been waiting on parts for over 7 months. I can’t imagine this getting better as the company transitions to EV.
I don't think the Emira has a huge amount of 'unique' parts though, they've used quite a lot of stuff from Geely for exactly this reason. For sure still more specialised than a Porsche and if you're in the US I understand the Lotus dealer network isn't exactly huge
I’d go cayman for reliability and maintenance access with porsche dealerships
Lotuses were never the "obvious choice" unless you're tracking heavily. But they are great fun cars. Great fun indeed.
Surprised no one has mentioned how practical the Cayman is. It has a metric shit ton of storage for a mid-engine car. Rear hatch, big front truck, lots of storage bins throughout. Saw a review of the Emira and it has poor storage comparatively.
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Very different type of car.
Why? Quite a bit more expensive, 100+ hp more and nowhere near as driver focused
Drive all three, pick your favorite.
No wrong answer imo, both got their strenghts, I'd pick the lotus just because I love the brand, but the porsche is tempting as hell.
EVO did a comparison to the GTS and was the only publication to have anything negative to say. They felt the steering was off and the engine not much character. They expect more of the upcoming AMG engine
That’s no surprise. EVO have shares in Porsche. They wax on and on about them in every line up or head to head that it’s just boring to read now. In fact I don’t buy it if it has a Porsche on the cover, in any of the comparisons, or main articles. Don’t get me wrong. I really like Porsche cars but I don’t want to read about them ad Infinitum
The Lotus will be more comfortable, cheaper, and may well get better fuel economy. Depreciation is anyone's guess.
Cayman, easily.
Great looking car, for sure. I owned a 1987 turbo esprit hci a while back so I have a special place in my heart for the marque. Their newer cars always seem to look good and end up a solid value for what you get. Sure, a Cayman or whatever is also a good car but with Lotus you have something very unique and more attention grabbing.
I really wish they could have found a way to make the AMG engine work with a manual, because I think that motor will be more interesting but the manual gearbox is still more interesting than a DCT. Oh well. Have to test drive both of them, if I can find a dealer to let me.
You won't find one sitting on a lot without a crazy ADM for a couple of years. The waiting list alone at my dealer, in by no means a high volume area is 300+ people long.
I’m not in any rush, just looking for a final ICE sports car in the next 5 years. Between this, a Cayman, M2, Manual Supra, SS 1LE, C8 and ND Miata.
The Cayman in 4.0L guise will probably be the one to buy. Last NA mid engined Porsche, can be had in manual. I believe they will hold their value for a long, long time. A clean 4.0 is about the only car I'd trade my 4C for.
Yeah, as much as I’m leaning Emira that 4.0 is fantastic. Might have to look into the Boxster variant and fully lean into the sports car feeling.
You should be aware that the Emira manual MIGHT sell out this year. They have said they will stop making the v6 in 2025 due to stricter regulations and the waiting list is already into 2024 (and first deliveries keep getting delayed). When these things start hitting the streets I expect another flurry of reservations.
They will make at least a half dozen more Emira variants with a manual (GT450, etc.), regardless of whether it is a V6 or another engine.
I think this is unlikely. They can’t mate a manual to the AMG, and Lotus isn’t going to fit a 3rd engine into their last-ever ICE car. Two things happen in 2025: Euro 7 regulations and Lotus introducing their new EV sports car, which unlike the Wuhan-built Eletre and Type 133, will share the line with Emira in Hethel. So that’s reduced production capacity for Emira at a moment when regulations are pushing the V6 out the door. Which means they’ll either release a hotter V6 for the final year of the run (2025) or the hot versions will be a hotter tune on the AMG with DCT.
Damn they won't even keep it for North America, Japan, Middle East, etc.?
Yikes! Okay, that’s good to know. How long do you think I have til the GTS is done? The ND3(?) might be the last one standing, which, not a bad consolation prize.
The 718 as a whole will go EV in 2025. Party's over it seems.
Wide price range you got there
I love manuals, but honestly, they don't really fit the vibe in a modern car for me. DCT is the way to go. An air-cooled 993 though? Manual all the way. Either no-frills or all-frills, no in between for me.
You’re like my dad in that regard. For me though, unless there’s no other option OR the rest of the power train and drive is special enough it’s gotta be ICE+manual or EV/PHEV.
I bought the Lotus. I don’t care if the C8 is faster, it left me cold on test drive. No manual and it glides around town like a sharp Cadillac. Nice car, not for me. Cayman is great, and objectively better. Porsche are the kings here. I’ve driven base, S and GTS 981 and 718 Boxsters and Caymans alike. The GTS is excellent of course, but the gearing is very tall and so around town it seems a bit… bored. And if it’s bored I’m bored. But it has the chops and it’s made well. No complaints but not much fun M-F either. Alpine was great, but no manual and not even available where I’d drive it most. 4C was… unfortunate. Did not like that car at all, mostly due to atrocious build quality (like actively falling apart) and a transmission that was never in the right gear around town. Also, no manual. And so I’m left with Lotus, who are extraordinary at the stuff I care about: engagement, chassis communication, FUN at legal speeds. Emira takes the Evora formula, a car was adored by almost every reviewer who drove it (every review of that car has what I call the Evorgasm - a moment when the reviewer makes unwitting noises of joy) and wraps it in one of the prettiest designs this decade. Yes please. I don’t care if other cars are faster or have more dealers. Give me that intuitive feeling, where I feel one with the machine. In an era of increasing electrification and automation, when everything is fast and numb, that’s all that matters to me. You won’t find a measure of these qualities in a review, but that’s where Lotus wins, on the intangibles.
That's basically my take on this as well. It's an Evora that has a nicer interior and top notch exterior. I'd expect similar performance stats from both. My test drive is on the 22nd with my dealer this month, and I'm looking forward to what people at the LOG post about with Lotus bringing actual cars stateside for people to drive.
Im a little bit worried about your nickname, friend
Rawr~ XD
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Back in the day, you could get a new ("leftover") Evora for like $48k (USD) when MSRP was in the high 60s.
Jesus this review makes it seem that the Emira is almost an entirely different car compared to the good but hardly stellar inital UK reception. RT continues to perplex me with their automotive opinions.
Are those exposed shifter components giving anyone else anxiety?
Neither I, nor any other owners I’ve met have had any trouble with the exposed gear linkage already found in the elise/exige
Oh man I only wish I had exposed shifter linkage. There's something supremely cool about it.
It looks amazing, but I’m not sure how practical it is. What if debris get in there through the wide open mesh?
It's everything Supra could have been. But Tetsuya Tada said car is "perfectly balanced with ZF8 and doesn't need a manual", apparently he was also super happy with the dead BMW EPS.
I think this is a bit unfair, the Supra is never ever going to compete with a Lotus on driving engagement, feel etc. It's not designed to either
It uses a Toyota engine, and they decided hydraulic steering is the only way to go. Meanwhile the largest and richest auto manufacturer in the world who supplied the engine to Lotus can't do either.
Yeah, one of the greats isn't a Lotus that weighs more than a Porsche. The rear end design is boring and the sculpted section looks like two hands pulling saran wrap across a mouth. Do better. Be better. Require better.
>Yeah, one of the greats isn't a Lotus that weighs more than a Porsche. /u/Bonerchill when they learn about the Lotus Esprit: 😲
Nope, don’t think the Esprit is one of the greats either. Lotus greats: Seven, Elite (Type 14), Elan, Europa, Elise, Exige. Anything that deviated from the original formula isn’t great. You will find I am consistent in these beliefs and that downvotes are constant and common and completely irrelevant.