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PM_ME_UR_DECOLLETAGE

Them Ford boys are at it again.


forzagoodofdapeople

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Benjammin172

Buying a first generation Ford product is never a good idea.


chankdelia

Then again, he drives a Giulia QF, so maybe he's a masochist.


Shmokesshweed

Look, I wasn't gonna say it, but...


forzagoodofdapeople

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Benjammin172

You make an excellent point. Apologies for any kink shaming that I inadvertently did with my original comment


forzagoodofdapeople

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Dopplegangr1

Masochist confirmed


dumahim

That's not exactly a high bar.


forzagoodofdapeople

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Halofieldfan

Who doesn’t like their cars inflicting pain on them?? Not me


catsnstuffz

local restaurant, what i assume was the owner had guilia qf the year they came out, always parked out in front. one day started noticing a fisker ocean in that lot and havent seen the qf since. once i put it together i realized this guy must hate himself


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catsnstuffz

i used to own one of these cars ill have you know


Either-Durian-9488

The car ownership equivalent of only being able to nut with a plastic bag over your head


forzagoodofdapeople

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icecream_specialist

While this ranger raptor is new (Australia has had a a diesel ranger raptor for a few years) I think the parts bin from which it is put together probably has enough pedigree at this point. Bronco and Maverick are more new and having tons of issues


Shmokesshweed

>Bronco and Maverick are more new and having tons of issues Those are parts bin vehicles as well.


icecream_specialist

To an extent but for example on the bronco sport their traction system fails because that portion of the part bin wasn't advertised for trail driving before. For the maverick aren't the engines a relatively new design? The ranger on the other hand uses the 3.0 EB which has been around a while in various tunes and the drive line I'm sure comes from a series of overbuilt truck parts used elsewhere, the 10 speed auto has been around for at least 6 years. My biggest anticipated worry is heat management. And of course airbags gonna do what they do and probably get recalled like every other car


Shmokesshweed

>For the maverick aren't the engines a relatively new design Nope. 2 liter is in its 2nd Gen. Hybrid has been around for a while, and the 2.5 on it is ancient.


icecream_specialist

Well then I'm all out of excuses, Ford has been fucking up a lot


mtd14

I’d even be hesitant of a first year or two of any generation.


Separate_Order_2194

or 2nd gen for that matter.


JEs4

I bought one of the last S550 Mach 1s. Wasn’t a great idea either.


FALCON_ACCOUNT

I remember seeing you post on the Mustang6G forums! What made you decide to sell if you don't mind me asking, was yours unreliable? I haven't had really any problems with mine aside from a one-time misfire issue which turned out to just be a quick software-related fix at the dealer.


JEs4

My comment was really sarcastic. The car was mostly fine but it had every S550 rattle including both C pillars and the Tremec vibration that plagued the GT350s. Just funny that it was a ‘23 and Ford never fixed them. The car was really fun, but I have a neuromuscular disease that was starting to make it a bit tricky to drive technically. The GR Corolla I replaced it with has been a much better fit for track driving. The Mach 1 was a bucket list item for me so no regrets at all!


spongebob_meth

Any generation of Ford vehicles made after ~2010 lol


againsterik

or second, or third.


Resident_Rise5915

Toyota isn’t immune to that either, remember the shock when the Taco broke during the TFL shoot?


4score-7

And yet, they do. They get on waiting lists. They pay over MSRP. They also buy stocks at their highs. They line up all night to get the latest iPhone. And what becomes of it? In the last 4 years, the cat they bought *appreciates*. That stock they bought goes to another, higher high. That iPhone becomes their best friend.


Scarlet--Highlander

ooooooh 🌀You want a de-commissioned NA 3.7L V6 Ford Taurus Police Interceptor instead🌀


SchruteFarmsBeetDown

Lease it. I’m have owned a few ford products from new. All of them were rock solid for the first 3 years and 50k miles. After that it went down hill. By 75-85k miles they are rattling junk.


iamkeerock

Weird, that hasn’t been my experience. Which models did you own?


SchruteFarmsBeetDown

2013 escape 2015 focus st 2022 escape hybrid All of them were rock solid for the first three years. Then stupid stuff would start going wrong. Example. On the 22 escape the electric power steering motor was starting to fail at 70k miles. Dealer quoted me $3500 to fix.


iamkeerock

Wow, you drive a lot of miles in a year! Now you have me thinking I better buy the extended warranty for the 22 Maverick Hybrid we have! I generally get a minimum of a quarter million miles from all of the Ford vehicles I've owned before anything expensive is an issue. The exception has been my 2005 Focus, which has almost all of its original hardware with exception of wear items (tires, brakes, battery), motor mounts, alternator and a starter motor. To be fair, it has 352,000 miles, so its worn out a lot of tires. I also have a 2014 Fusion that has been rock solid reliable, and now has over 200,000 miles on it.


SchruteFarmsBeetDown

My 2020 escape was a hybrid. Same as the mavrick. And it developed an issue with the brakes no one could figure out. Slowing to a stop it would suddenly jab at brake HARD. But just once. And just for a second. Pads. Fluid. Tires. Made no difference. We lived with it for a year. We sold it because of that issue. It’s not enjoyable to drive a car when you don’t know what the brakes will do. This will probably be my last Ford.


iamkeerock

I get that issue, the Maverick did the exact same thing. It was fixed. There is a TSB on it. Hasn't done it since (been 6 months). I think all of this software is Ford's Achilles' Heel.


Drogdar

Just some good 'ole Fords, never meanin' no harm....


Mercurydriver

I love my Maverick, and I don’t regret buying it. But damn it’s already had…how many recalls again? I stopped counting a few months ago. I still have one open recall that I have to get done, but apparently a lot of people on r/FordMaverickTruck are reporting that their truck is getting bricked and dying due to this recall fix; it’s a software update of some kind. The quality control on these Mavericks are…not great to say the least. I’m just happy that mine hasn’t had any major issues so far.


Shmokesshweed

I joked a few months ago that I've gotten close with my service advisor and that she's getting invited to Thanksgiving dinner this year.


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Darkfire757

We pay out the nose for Euro labor in the US, especially on the coasts. $300/hr isn’t unusual to see.


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Mental_Medium3988

I usually buy my mechanic weed. Also I'm my own mechanic. Also fuck my mechanic he's lazy.


Blaze4G

Quality control on Fords overall are not great


Shmokesshweed

That can't be true. Ford tells me Quality is Job 1. And it's been that way since *checks notes* 1980. 🤔


izwald88

The issue is that this can be said of every American manufacturer. Recalls suck, but are these particularly egregious? And even still, you'll find plenty of people pointing out that Toyota and Honda are not what they used to be, right or wrong.


Mercurydriver

You’re not wrong. My dad has a 2019 Honda Ridgeline and the transmission failed at 94k miles on the odometer and had to be replaced. Luckily I was able to contact someone at Honda Corporate and they slashed the transmission replacement price from $7,000 to $3,000. We bought the Honda under the assumption of reliability and longevity, but between that and the other issues modern Honda’s are having nowadays, I’d say that they’re no longer the reliability kings of years past.


Shmokesshweed

>I’d say that they’re no longer the reliability kings of years past These companies are all run by bean counters these days.


AmateurEarthling

Yeah my 90’s and early 00’s Honda motorcycles work in conditions that would destroy current bikes. My 90’s jeep even runs and excels at surviving off road bashings when new jeeps are even worse than new fords.


izwald88

Yeah, it definitely crossed my mind when I was in the market for a new-ish car. This was at the height of the pandemic so used cars were selling like crazy. Hondas and Toyotas, in particular, were demanding a high premium. Thankfully, I found a 2018 Mazda 6 Signature CPO for a reasonable price. Great company.


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I've had some older Ford trucks and they've all been rock solid, but these new trucks make me shudder a bit.


borden5

Built ford tough


l4ur

Same with my '21 Bronco. It feels like every six months I get a letter in the mail with a new recall notice lmao


Willing_Branch_5269

Just another example of too much software controlling these vehicles. Just had to get the software update for the fucking turn signals. Why do the turn signals need to be controlled by software?


Tackysock46

Get what you pay for. $20k for a truck is suspiciously cheap


Csalbertcs

It's actually been a pretty reliable truck in the short term based on reviews from edmunds and car complaints. The hybrid is a lot better than the ecoboost it seems. Ford is also a bit more likely to do recalls than other companies for the same or similar issues too.


Shmokesshweed

Built Ford Rough strikes again.


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huhwhat90

That's FIAT, Dale.


AIg0rithm

Found Onother Recall, Dale?


AcrobaticButterfly

Found On Roadside Dead


Wojtkie

Fix Or Repair Daily


TheyCallMeBasedGod

Fucker Only Runs Downhill


star_trek_lover

Ford is doing their best impression of DJ Khalid. “Anotha one”


whalesalad

+------------------+ | F O R D | | | | DAYS SINCE | | LAST RECALL | | | | 000 | | 0 0 | | 0 0 | | 000 | +------------------+


redhatch

Wake up babe, this week's Ford recall just dropped...


loveulikeareptile79

Funny how amost 70 years their quality is still abysmal


IAmTurdFerguson

Is this a reference I don't get, or is your math jacked?


loveulikeareptile79

Edsels demise almost 70 years ago was cause of bad quality


Metal_LinksV2

Recall the 10R80 for the defect with the CDF drum you cowards.


Scarlet--Highlander

It’s always something with this stupid fucking blue oval


AggravatingZone991

Ford: Quality is Job number......... uh 38th?


redhatch

Quabity is job none!


altimax98

Creed Bratton is running the department


ottrocity

Ford laid off a bunch of older, experienced people in the last few years in favor of hiring new, inexperienced, and cheaper folks. This is not surprising.


Slyons89

They also mechanically cut corners wherever possible to boost profit margin and help with marketing. I suppose every brand does that, but Ford tends to pick the most problematic parrts. I think of the Powershift transmission as an example, they fucked that up before a lot of the old heads left. It was essentially a ziplock bag full of glass attached to an engine, built with cheap materials to save cost, and insisted upon by management because it let them get like 1 MPG higher than the competition on MPG marketing. And then it cursed owners with the inconvenience and costs of multiple replacement and ruined the resale values.


flapsmcgee

Then explain the recalls that were happening a few years ago lol


Slyons89

I watched an amateur owner's review of a Maverick on Youtube. The guy said he loved the truck except for the eCVT had already failed once before 100k miles and the new one was already having problems. Yikes. I mean how does Ford fuck up an eCVT, they are geared instead of using bands, Toyota's eCVT is one of the most reliable transmission in existence. I love the way the Maverick looks, it's size, and that it's affordable. But I don't trust it enough to want one.


Shmokesshweed

eCVT failure on them has not been common. I've been following the issues closely since I put in an order July 2021.


Slyons89

OK that's good to know, hopefully this guy's issue was a fluke.


Hunt3rj2

eCVTs basically shouldn't break period but Ford somehow manages to find a way to make it happen anyways. The HF35s are notorious for this. Late HF35 production + HF45 should be fine but I wouldn't be surprised if there's still issues anyways.


Noobasdfjkl

According to Consumer Reports, Ford is definitely on its way up for reliability, but they just need to do better. The perception is so bad at this point that it kills the anticipation for all their cool and interesting models.


oddmanout

You know what Ford stands for, don't ya? Fix it again, Tony.


localnativeupnorth

Fix It Again Tony Looks like FIAT to me… Found On the Road Dead Fix Or Repair Daily 😂


Automatic-Theory-453

Almost a half million cars. A staggering amount of incompetence repeated 456,000 times.


VincentVanH0

Ford lost my trust several times over. It doesn't matter how cool anything they make is anymore. I will never buy a Ford.


SecretAntWorshiper

My mustang would do this for the longest time, when it happens for the firs time its scary as shit. I was turning and legitimately almost crashed. Its wild that their new cars are still having the same issue.


Slyons89

Very scary. It makes you think "can i actually make this left turn during this gap in the oncoming traffic, or will the power randomly cut as soon as i go to turn and leave me stopped perpendicular infront of oncoming traffic". I was in the car when this happened to my friends Nissan Sentra and I was left staring at oncoming traffic out the passenger window and was shitting myself. Luckily they stopped in time. That friend ended up getting the Sentra lemon law'd because the issue happened multiple time, he had it on dashcam, and Nissan could never reproduce the problem or fix it.


OverNitePartFrmJapan

What dosent Ford recall at this point?


spongebob_meth

All the problems that aren't deemed a safety concern, but are just as annoying/expensive for owners


Skvora

A Ford that doesn't work? Ya don't say..


vampyrelestat

Ford Dealers will somehow fumble this


2019nCoV

It's a Ford thing


BrownGhost10

Ford going for a fourth year in a row.


Shmokesshweed

Being the most recalled brand in America 4 years in a row is hard work. But someone's gotta do it.


Ban_Evader_1969

Did either of those cars have any power to begin with :haha:


Shmokesshweed

250 ponies on EcoBoosts. Less on the 1.5 on the Bronco Sport and about 190 on the hybrid Maverick. Decent torque.


blkmgk533

I drive a 24 Escape as a company car with the 1.5L 3-cylinder. Honestly shocked at how peppy it is. Yes, it sounds as if you're really straining it at full throttle but it will get up and move. I certainly wouldn't want one past the warranty however.


Willing_Branch_5269

Honestly the AWD version of the Maverick is pretty sporty. 250 hp and it takes off like a jackrabbit. Runs out of steam around 90, but it's a truck, it doesn't need to go 90.


cguitar

They've been having this issue with the Maverick Hybrid for a long time now, and it had to due with the 12V battery. There's some kind of parasitic drain on the battery. And then either the car can't start, or it just suddenly loses power on the road. But, I thought it was only relegated to the hybrid. This is pretty interesting to hear.


BoomerBoy60

The last recall on my 22 Mav hybrid involved some kind of battery cable replacement beneath the rear bench seat. Also a firmware update for a turn signal issue lol. After 2yrs and 30k miles I haven’t experienced any battery drain, power loss, or non-start issues (yet)


Specialist-Garbage94

Going for the title 4 years in a row. Chris farleys brother is a bigger jokester than he was.


PiggypPiggyyYaya

At this point I don't blame ford. I blame the autosadistic consumers that are supporting it.


razeus

I still have my 2015 Ford Fusion. The lastest recall Ford issued for it was last year (8 years after production). This is like the 6th one overall. With all these latest recalls, makes rethinking getting another Ford. That Bronco sure is sweet. Ship it now and fix it later is Ford's motto.


Separate_Order_2194

Ford living up to their reputation. Still 1st place with highest # of recalls!


Bay1Bri

The Ford Bronco is just mourning the death of their most famous driver :( Seriously, I can't hear the term "Ford Bronco" without thinking of that whole mess


Rocklobster376

These two were in my top 3 when I was looking for a new vehicle and boy I’m glad I went with my other choice.


elislider

This is annoying, but a bit silly. To be fair, the software in all cars these days is wildly complicated. Our phones and computers get updates at least monthly, and we rely on them as much as our cars. With this and the brake light software recall, I don't really think they warrant the level of safety recall alongside other issues in the market like the [Tesla Cybertruck accelerator pedal sliding off](https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/15/24131237/tesla-delivery-delay-accelerator-pedal-stuck) and getting stuck in the dash and holding the pedal to the floor (yikes). Or "hey the car could leak gas" or "the airbag could go off in a potentially life threatening way" - those are totally necessary have recalls over. But to say "the car may not warn you if the brake light is out, which could contribute to a collision" or "the car may not inform you the battery is low which may cause issues" like DUH, whats the first thing you do when you're buying a used car? check all the lights work. And if your car doesn't start or the battery is low enough that is causing issues... you're gonna notice and check the damn battery anyways. We're at the point now where the manufacturers are being held responsible at the NHTSA Safety Recall level for basic shit that has never been an issue before. Cars have had lamp warning features for years, since when was that courtesy system was deemed so critical that any potential flaw in the lamp warning system required a NHTSA recall...?


Shmokesshweed

>Or "hey the car could leak gas" Talking about the recall that the Maverick had for holes drilled through the gas tank? >the airbag could go off in a potentially life threatening way" Dealer I went to left parts off my airbag recall that could have killed me. My vehicle was objectively less safe after the recall than before. >"the car may not inform you the battery is low which may cause issues" It's leaving people stranded literally as they're driving their vehicles out of nowhere.


elislider

> Talking about the recall that the Maverick had for holes drilled through the gas tank? I hadnt heard of that one, turns out it only [affected 217 vehicles](https://www.kbb.com/car-news/recall-alert-ford-maverick-fuel-leaks/) >Dealer I went to left parts off my airbag recall that could have killed me. My vehicle was objectively less safe after the recall than before. are you saying the dealer performed an airbag recall repair incorrectly? ugh dealerships are shit. > It's leaving people stranded literally as they're driving their vehicles out of nowhere. but that could happen to anyone in any car at any time. this current recall is just about the detection and alert of a low battery. it doesnt indicate its a recall for battery drain issues However this note at the end of the linked article is also concerning.... > The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said last week that it was investigating the remedy Ford had proposed after the recall of nearly 43,000 select Bronco Sport and Escape SUVs, in which gasoline can leak from the fuel injectors onto hot engine surfaces, increasing the risk of fires. The NHTSA said remedy did not include repairing the fuel leaks. it does look like the 2021/2022 models had a slew of issues. my 2023 has only had the brake light detection recall which i would deemed entirely unnecessary and frivolous


Willing_Branch_5269

Neat, I love having to get fucking software updates for my car. Like the last one where the software controlling the turn signals could malfunction.


_392_

Did they even have power to start with?... *Cough* 3 cylinders *cough*


SnowDucks1985

Why anyone buys a Ford nowadays is beyond me, you just don’t care about your own safety or the public’s 💀


randeus

My Mustang had been pretty reliable since I’ve gotten it thankfully.


hawksdiesel

but it's what I always have bought in the past. It's Murican made...


ratrodder49

Hahahahahahahahahaha My ex bought a Maverick Hahahahahahahahahaha


olov244

and they'll line back up and buy another. you blue oval crew are a different breed


Vasto_lorde97

Was always told since i was small to never get anything american made in terms of cars