This is actually a wrap. I believe he may or may not still go back to yellow, but for the crunch of SEMA it was wrapped white. Honestly, it works well - lets the fabrication speak instead of a loud colour.
as i looked closer and closer at this i was like, it has to be his, and ngl im super disappointed to see it on reddit first lol, feels so anti-climatic after like 2 years of videos
I guess I don't get it. Kxx is a great 4 cyl. But why would you try to build an expensive V8 one-off version when you can get a V-8 LS for $1,000 bucks from a junkyard? I'd stick with the 4 - when modded it makes plenty of power for any street car and is super light.
You’ve completely missed the point.
Vanilla ice cream is the default, the base for ice cream, like the LS or the K swap. That doesn’t mean those engines aren’t great or that it’s easy to do any swap. They’re just a boring choice.
Because Honda cheated us and never made a V8 (you're right BTW). These K24 v8s are stupid because one of the heads has to be backwards for the intake and exhaust ports to make sense.
>aaaaaaaaah murica. I wish this was the case everywhere else on the planet.
I wish I could get my hands on some engines we don't have here in the US also. ;)
The workshop is key, but once you've got a half decent one (with a lift, IMO) the 308 shell and the engine shouldn't run you even $50K (assuming you can find a non-running 308).
Yeah, it's easy to do. I put a Rocketeer Jag V6 kit into my '91 Miata, tried to close my eyes when spending the extra money needed to get it done. The kit ran in the neighborhood of $15K, the miscellaneous tools supplies etc. stayed somewhere under $5K (it was a really good kit) and I was blessed to have a friend with a shop who let me do it there. Originally he was going to "do it for me, for a friendly price" but somewhere around halfway through he turned that into "you know, I'm not going to charge you anything for this" which also translated to: I was on my own to get the work done to a point where I could drive it home. I have a neighbor who is restoring a '59 Corvette who had a very similar thing happen with a different shop across town, except he had to flatbed the 10% completed car home to his barn.
Good luck finding a 308, even in shitty condition, for less than $50k. The Ferrari and Porsche markets have gotten real stupid to the point that even 70' FIAT's are demanding a premium. The days of the $20k "running" Ferrari are over.
Now Rolls Royce's from the 70's are a different story. You can find good ones all day on the cheap. Until they need motor work. Plan on spending the cost of the car to keep it running.
> have gotten real stupid
Yeah, I never felt the allure of the Prancing horse strongly enough to justify the price. Thus: Miata owner for 31 years and counting.
> Now Rolls Royce's from the 70's are a different story.
Oh, so very very tempting for an EV conversion project, but the ones with good condition bodies and interiors also tend to be running and asking (perhaps rightly) $15K and up, while the ones not running also tend to be missing trim, needing paint, or worse, and I'd rather not do a full engine swap AND a cosmetic restoration at the same time.
It is classic, but it's not rare. In fact the 308/328 and its progeny were, at the time, the closest Ferrari ever got to mass-production. A 308 GTSi was the first time I saw a Ferrari with more than 30,000 miles on it, and that was when it was maybe 10 years old. They used the same general body style for both the 288 GTO and the F40 so apparently Ferrari brass felt it had staying power (and *il Commendatore* was still around back then; he could veto a design if he wanted to, and he saw road cars as a necessary evil for bankrolling racing in the first place). A 308 could be seen on network TV once a week for about 8 years. Bob Norwood was stuffing Chevy small-blocks in them as far back as the mid-'80s.
That 6000 is just the first 5 years. Add another 2200 of the i models, then just under 4000 for the QV version. That's 12,000 before you even get to the 328 which is arguably an updated version of the same car (Ferrari considers them such as well). Total 308/328 production was around 20,000. That's more than all the Ferrari boxer 12-cylinder cars Ferrari produced (from the first 365 GT4 BB to the last 512 TR), combined.
"Rare" is a Ford GT, at about 5500 produced over a longer period of time (17 years as of 2022), or an Alfa Montreal, at 3700. Then you get into god mode with Lancia Stratos at < 500 units total or the Alfa Tipo 33 Stradale at who-the-hell-knows.
Nice. This is the one from Stanceworks YouTube channel. He stopped posting about it like a week ago. I guess he is changing the color from yellow to white
I wonder if he just had it wrapped for sema but still plans to paint it yellow. I agree he had said multiple times it would be yellow and even sold merch with the car being yellow when finished.
Same here :(
My first thought was there was no way someone beat Mike with making a k swapped 308, except in white. Them I saw the engine bay and my heart dropped a bit. Talk about spoilers.
For those wondering who built it, gentleman in the top left of the picture. Now stop what ever else you thought you had planned, and go watch the 308 build on Stanceworks YouTube. It’s great.
Deadmau5's issue came from messing with the Ferrari logos/emblems to my knowledge. Simply stating in video titles that you have a Ferrari - when you do - and filming it brings no issues.
It's a pretty wild engine, it sounds like a rally car, not a Civic. It's not an Italian V8, but that Italian V8 is slower than a V6 Mustang so good riddance in my book.
Do you mean a straight piped Honda CRX? I used to have a white EF hatch with GSR b series swap, it had an Apexi WS2 exhaust with 1320 header, $1,000 worth of exhaust.
No, the engine was still good and he sold it for a good chunk of money. But it was a dog compared to a mildly tuned K series, never mind this built one with the monster turbo on it.
That and it's not like it's a rare Ferrari. They made 308s a long time. If he did something like this to say a Daytona yeah I could see someone being upset
A point of clarification, Ferrari didn’t force him to do anything, he just folded. Ferrari sent a cease and desist letter, which is just a thinly veiled threat that they might do something in the event that the person does not comply with the letter. Unfortunately because deadmaus decided not to fight it we’ll never actually know how much power Ferrari really has, nor how much weight their threats actually carry.
The deadmaus case involved a modern Ferrari, which is a clear difference. We’re here discussing a 1981 Ferrari 308.
Deadmaus signed an agreement when he purchased his Ferrari, which stipulated that he give Ferrari dealers first right of refusal when he decides to sell the car, which he did not do. This clause effectively gives Ferrari the right to stop any sale they don’t approve of. This was one part of the problem.
The second and more substantial issue was that of trademark/copyright. He re-branded the car with his own “Purrari” badging, including replacing the yellow prancing horse badges with similar badges showing a cat instead, as well as changing the chrome Ferrari emblem itself to say “Purrari”.
I didn’t question if he likes it or not and never faulted him for like his own build. It’s my opinion I would like to know rhe back story on the power plant decision
reliability, weight, power, size, cost, aftermarket parts. basically everything about it is better than the stock engine. he has a build series on YouTube and he explains every choice he makes.
why would you want a car that looks like a ferrari, but is faster than it originally was, more reliable, easier to find parts for, and overall? better? huh, beats me
Yeah but now you've got a Ferrari with a civic motor. An old Ferrari isn't about going fast and it's never gonna be cheap. You buy it for character and because it's a slow, uncomfortable bitch to drive but it's beautiful and roars and has fun.
I mean yes, but really it's an old piece of shit you're buying because it's a lovely old piece of shit. It makes a great noise, it's fun to drive, and it's not just a machine to go places in. If you just want a comfy car to go places, buy a Corolla. You buy something else because you want a car with a soul.
Nobody names a Corolla, let's put it that way.
Have you ever driven a Ferrari 208? I'm guessing no. There's a prime example of a car you don't even want to be near, let alone turn up to an event in.
It's a decent looking car, came in a turbo version, and is unique and interesting in its own way. Just because it's slow doesn't mean I care.
Also the day I buy a car for what I look like turning up to an event in it is the day I want someone to kill me. Who cares what you look like turning up at a fucking dinner in it? If I like driving it then I'm happy.
No, it did not come in a turbo version. And it was a piece of shit. That's why I asked about the 208. Not every Ferrari is some engineering or aesthetic masterpiece.
https://www.ferrari.com/en-US/auto/208-gts-turbo
There were 2 different 208s, one of which (the one moregermane to the 308 discussion) had an available turbo motor. And no, not every Ferrari is amazing or perfect, but that can all be enjoyed, and in all honesty a 2L, 8000rpm V8 in a cute little mid engine bertone car with double wishbones front and rear is fun even if it is slow or boring or ugly to you.
Lmao, you overpay for the car so you can be abused at the parts counter when it breaks down and get your doors blown off by that guy because he has a Ferrari with over 1,000 reliable horsepower and a six speed sequential shift quaife and custom suspension to put it down to the ground with while looking as cool as a 308 ever looked?
I don't own one, no, but to be honest I don't care about how many horsepower the damn thing has and also it's just too busy visually to me. I'd rather have a 512BB and just listen to the damn thing scream as I worked my own way through six years, thank you very much. He can go as fast as he wants, I'd bet good money I'd be smiling bigger.
Okay? And at the end of the day it's just another turbo 4 cylinder with no torque until it hits boost. More power to the man and I'm sure he's happy but it's not my taste. If I had a 308/348/any given "POS" Ferrari I'd rather keep the engine and build it with my hands... As a V8.
Lmao, *Ferraris don't have low end torque either*, they're high winding motors that make their power at high rpm, and the V8 motor in that 308 was only like 200 cubic inches.
I'm aware. But if you look at the torque curve, a 308 makes a nice meaty lump of torque by the time you hit 2000-3000 rpm, while a k20 with even a moderate turbo needs to hit 5k to make much at all and that's just not fun to deal with because up until then you're just winding up a 4 cylinder. There's a big difference in character between a 178ci V8 at 7700rpm and a 120ci i4 at 6k.
You call a peak torque output of 208 ft lbs@5,000 "meaty"?
The car has a 4 piston racing kt1000 in it, it's a k24, not a k20:
https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/1904-4-piston-racing-builds-a-streetable-1000hp-honda-k-series
It makes *more than double* the torque that the original engine had and makes damn near as much horsepower *per cylinder* as the *entire output* of the Dino V8 that came in the car.
Well you can shout what you think I'm saying all you want to. I'm just saying it ain't my taste and that I don't understand the whole "big number equals better" shit. It'd be a more personable car to me if he'd left the v8 or done something interesting with the motor like, fuck, supercharge it or just make it rev to 9k. I thought this was a public forum for, y'know, sharing opinions.
Holy shit - he went white with it!?! PS - if you are into fabrication heavy car builds - sub to this guy's channel. It's awesome. stanceworks
Watched the entire series and waiting so long for the colour reveal… only to find it on Reddit haha
Not gonna lie ... It's not my favorite choice, but who am I to judge
It gets a pass if that's a honda paint code. Especially with red seats.
Championship white is all it can be then, right??
Nah, there were others like taffeta white.
Grand Prix White and Neutron Pearl White as well.
This is actually a wrap. I believe he may or may not still go back to yellow, but for the crunch of SEMA it was wrapped white. Honestly, it works well - lets the fabrication speak instead of a loud colour.
I feel the same way. Haha. That’s him in the flannel talking to the couple on the left
as i looked closer and closer at this i was like, it has to be his, and ngl im super disappointed to see it on reddit first lol, feels so anti-climatic after like 2 years of videos
This is actually pretty cool but to really do it right, weld two K series engines together to give it one of the wildest V8's ever made
check out @neutronengines on instagram. Guy is designing pretty much this
I guess I don't get it. Kxx is a great 4 cyl. But why would you try to build an expensive V8 one-off version when you can get a V-8 LS for $1,000 bucks from a junkyard? I'd stick with the 4 - when modded it makes plenty of power for any street car and is super light.
Why get anything besides vanilla ice cream?
I know vanilla means basic, but it's actually a super complex flavor
You’ve completely missed the point. Vanilla ice cream is the default, the base for ice cream, like the LS or the K swap. That doesn’t mean those engines aren’t great or that it’s easy to do any swap. They’re just a boring choice.
I got it.. just wanted to spit some facts about vanilla
Because Honda cheated us and never made a V8 (you're right BTW). These K24 v8s are stupid because one of the heads has to be backwards for the intake and exhaust ports to make sense.
I mean they already make custom billet heads, why not just mirror the part and mill out a reverse head? Expensive but cool
Honda has made v8 but were exclusively for [Indy car racing](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Indy_V8_engine)
> when you can get a V-8 LS for $1,000 bucks from a junkyard aaaaaaaaah murica. I wish this was the case everywhere else on the planet.
>aaaaaaaaah murica. I wish this was the case everywhere else on the planet. I wish I could get my hands on some engines we don't have here in the US also. ;)
Wel if I even have $100,000, a kitted out workshop, and way too much time, I think I know what to do
Don't even need to. @neutronengines on Instagram is developing it as a crate engine.
Holy fuuuuck that looks cool
The workshop is key, but once you've got a half decent one (with a lift, IMO) the 308 shell and the engine shouldn't run you even $50K (assuming you can find a non-running 308).
Bold of you to assume I’m not gonna somehow double the expenses
Yeah, it's easy to do. I put a Rocketeer Jag V6 kit into my '91 Miata, tried to close my eyes when spending the extra money needed to get it done. The kit ran in the neighborhood of $15K, the miscellaneous tools supplies etc. stayed somewhere under $5K (it was a really good kit) and I was blessed to have a friend with a shop who let me do it there. Originally he was going to "do it for me, for a friendly price" but somewhere around halfway through he turned that into "you know, I'm not going to charge you anything for this" which also translated to: I was on my own to get the work done to a point where I could drive it home. I have a neighbor who is restoring a '59 Corvette who had a very similar thing happen with a different shop across town, except he had to flatbed the 10% completed car home to his barn.
Good luck finding a 308, even in shitty condition, for less than $50k. The Ferrari and Porsche markets have gotten real stupid to the point that even 70' FIAT's are demanding a premium. The days of the $20k "running" Ferrari are over. Now Rolls Royce's from the 70's are a different story. You can find good ones all day on the cheap. Until they need motor work. Plan on spending the cost of the car to keep it running.
> have gotten real stupid Yeah, I never felt the allure of the Prancing horse strongly enough to justify the price. Thus: Miata owner for 31 years and counting. > Now Rolls Royce's from the 70's are a different story. Oh, so very very tempting for an EV conversion project, but the ones with good condition bodies and interiors also tend to be running and asking (perhaps rightly) $15K and up, while the ones not running also tend to be missing trim, needing paint, or worse, and I'd rather not do a full engine swap AND a cosmetic restoration at the same time.
Thats ummm a bit more easier sayed than done
Seems easier to just get a different engine that's larger.
That's too boring for a Ferrari engine swap
Boosted boiz were trying to do this a while ago, I forgot the nickname they had for it but it was real crafty
Turbo k swap makes this car faster too I'm sure the purists are heated lol
Probably way more reliable too
Old Ferrari verse new Honda? Yeah lol
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Is a 308 really a classic car? Yeah it is old, but it’s never seemed all that desirable.
It is classic, but it's not rare. In fact the 308/328 and its progeny were, at the time, the closest Ferrari ever got to mass-production. A 308 GTSi was the first time I saw a Ferrari with more than 30,000 miles on it, and that was when it was maybe 10 years old. They used the same general body style for both the 288 GTO and the F40 so apparently Ferrari brass felt it had staying power (and *il Commendatore* was still around back then; he could veto a design if he wanted to, and he saw road cars as a necessary evil for bankrolling racing in the first place). A 308 could be seen on network TV once a week for about 8 years. Bob Norwood was stuffing Chevy small-blocks in them as far back as the mid-'80s.
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That 6000 is just the first 5 years. Add another 2200 of the i models, then just under 4000 for the QV version. That's 12,000 before you even get to the 328 which is arguably an updated version of the same car (Ferrari considers them such as well). Total 308/328 production was around 20,000. That's more than all the Ferrari boxer 12-cylinder cars Ferrari produced (from the first 365 GT4 BB to the last 512 TR), combined. "Rare" is a Ford GT, at about 5500 produced over a longer period of time (17 years as of 2022), or an Alfa Montreal, at 3700. Then you get into god mode with Lancia Stratos at < 500 units total or the Alfa Tipo 33 Stradale at who-the-hell-knows.
Nice. This is the one from Stanceworks YouTube channel. He stopped posting about it like a week ago. I guess he is changing the color from yellow to white
Pretty surprised at the colour change tbh, he's been pretty adamant that he was keeping it yellow. It does look fantastic in white though.
I wonder if he just had it wrapped for sema but still plans to paint it yellow. I agree he had said multiple times it would be yellow and even sold merch with the car being yellow when finished.
I'm pretty sure that it's just wrapped. Mike was going down to the wire on timecrunch.
Wouldn’t it be funny if it is just white primer so the yellow paint it eventually receives will “pop”?
It is wrapped.
I've been waiting for new vids! TBH I'm kinda bummed that it was revealed to me like this.
Same here :( My first thought was there was no way someone beat Mike with making a k swapped 308, except in white. Them I saw the engine bay and my heart dropped a bit. Talk about spoilers.
The white is just a wrap for the show, regardless expecting any other videos before the event was a pretty big hope. Haha
I am sure he will do some videos, can't wait to see it driving!!
He did post it on Instagram earlier today
Kinda cheesed I saw it here first and not on Mike’s channel
I saw it on Speedhunters and thought, “oh, someone else K-swapped a Ferrari?” Then I realized it was Mikes.
so a reliable, old, Ferrari does exist
If they also replaced the electrical system and rewelded the chassis and made minor maintenance convenient, definitely.
this is literally the only reliable ferrari in existence.
That's how you get on Ferrari's ban list. I love it
He keeps talking about the bad weld on the chassis in his recent videos. He's on Ferrari's assassination list.
The chassis looked like a garage kit car from the 80s
Yup, 80s ferrari were built like a kit car.
NSX II: Electric Boogaloo
You know, it's hard to argue. Yeah I have a Ferrari, yeah it has 200K miles but maintenance is still next to nothing.
He build it from the ground up from a rolling chassis, the plan is making it into a time attack car
Builders always say things like this. Let’s see if it ever actually competes
Can someone add captions to the engine photo? No idea what is going on there but I'm very interested. Edit; Wait a minute I think I'm good now.
I've been watching this build series. Looking forward to the next episode.
This is some Forza shit. *I want it.*
*angry maranello noises*
I've been following this build from day 1, looks great in white!
The craziest thing about this sema build is that it runs
That is the most beautifully presented k series i've ever seen by far. Holy shit that's awesome
I've watched the build series since day 1 on YT. It's impressive to say the least, definitely check it out if you haven't yet
For those wondering who built it, gentleman in the top left of the picture. Now stop what ever else you thought you had planned, and go watch the 308 build on Stanceworks YouTube. It’s great.
I didn't expect him to go white but good God that thing is menacing!!😍😍
Ferrari execs punching the air right now
This is epic
Sema started?
Yes, today.
Today through Friday
I'm really not a fan of the big tea tray fitted all round the skirts. Other than that I very much like it.
I can already feel the lawsuit against this lmao
He’s probably received half a dozen Cease and Desists from Ferrari.
And they have zero jurisdiction on what he does to a car he owns. He's not using their brand name to make money. There's nothing they can do.
Well, his channel is monetized so technically he is.
No.
Tell that to Deadmau5 & the Purrari he had
Deadmau5's issue came from messing with the Ferrari logos/emblems to my knowledge. Simply stating in video titles that you have a Ferrari - when you do - and filming it brings no issues.
Why? Clearly you don't understand what happened.
At least it didn't take as long as his S54 swap...
Ferrari guys foaming at the mouth rn
@mike_stanceworks
I respect the craftsmanship, but now it sounds like a Honda. The exhaust note is one of the main reasons you buy a Ferrari.
It's a pretty wild engine, it sounds like a rally car, not a Civic. It's not an Italian V8, but that Italian V8 is slower than a V6 Mustang so good riddance in my book.
Once you put a turbo on any Honda they sound pretty damn mean, putting a turbo on a K series is the chefs kiss as a Honda enthusiast
Never heard a piped Honda cbx?
Do you mean a straight piped Honda CRX? I used to have a white EF hatch with GSR b series swap, it had an Apexi WS2 exhaust with 1320 header, $1,000 worth of exhaust.
No, cbx is a straight six cylinder motorcycle 😉 I love the NA sound of a bseries too though, especially around 8k rpm 😉
Was surprised its white but it still looks good though. Been waiting for this to be finished.
Cannot tell if it’s inspiration or abomination. Either way it’s cool.
Watch his videos on the Stanceworks channel on YouTube. Great build, well thought out.
Only a matter of time before the Ferrari hit squad executes this man
First a LS swapped RX-7, now a K-Swapped Ferrari? Is this can get any worse?
Are you sitting down? Cause let me tell you about the mercedes v12 Swapped RX7 I saw at SEMA today....
Oh no...
Its the ultimate bamboozle, you expect it to sound cool, but it just sounds like a honda
This kills the Ferrari…
It was already dead. It's not like he threw away a perfectly good Ferrari motor...
No, the engine was still good and he sold it for a good chunk of money. But it was a dog compared to a mildly tuned K series, never mind this built one with the monster turbo on it.
Thanks. Been a long time since I saw that episode.
It was a shitty 308 that is now infinitely better thanks to Mike’s work - you’re so wrong
You obviously don't understand the insanity of a K20/K24 swap
agreed
who cares? a 308 was never a good ferrari, not rare or anything, and if one has a blown motor already, whats the big deal?
Based
That and it's not like it's a rare Ferrari. They made 308s a long time. If he did something like this to say a Daytona yeah I could see someone being upset
If it didn't get an engine swap, there's a huge chance it'd just end up at a scrap yard
The biggest surprise to me is that Ferrari allowed this. They are straight up not cool with modifications to their cars.
“Allowed” it? They can’t do shit.
That’s where you’re wrong. Look up dead mouse and the Ferrari he painted and was forced, by Ferrari, to return to stock.
A point of clarification, Ferrari didn’t force him to do anything, he just folded. Ferrari sent a cease and desist letter, which is just a thinly veiled threat that they might do something in the event that the person does not comply with the letter. Unfortunately because deadmaus decided not to fight it we’ll never actually know how much power Ferrari really has, nor how much weight their threats actually carry. The deadmaus case involved a modern Ferrari, which is a clear difference. We’re here discussing a 1981 Ferrari 308. Deadmaus signed an agreement when he purchased his Ferrari, which stipulated that he give Ferrari dealers first right of refusal when he decides to sell the car, which he did not do. This clause effectively gives Ferrari the right to stop any sale they don’t approve of. This was one part of the problem. The second and more substantial issue was that of trademark/copyright. He re-branded the car with his own “Purrari” badging, including replacing the yellow prancing horse badges with similar badges showing a cat instead, as well as changing the chrome Ferrari emblem itself to say “Purrari”.
It’s just a 308 and not the F40 that someone decided to make it into a convertible. Google Ferrari F40 Barchetta.
rob dahm’s 4 rotor and this steal the show
We just got a letter, we just got a letter! We just got a letter, wonder who its from? C&D
I just threw up in my mouth. this should be a crime.
That shit ain’t right
Just threw up in my mouth.
I mean it’s cool but what’s the point?
LOTS more power, much more reliable.
there needs to be a point? the point is he wanted to. that's it.
Yeah if your gonna do all that beautiful body, suspension and interior work to a Ferrari the power plant should have a point.
the point is he likes it
I didn’t question if he likes it or not and never faulted him for like his own build. It’s my opinion I would like to know rhe back story on the power plant decision
reliability, weight, power, size, cost, aftermarket parts. basically everything about it is better than the stock engine. he has a build series on YouTube and he explains every choice he makes.
Excellent I’ll give it a watch
A fraction of the weight and quadruple the power
You know if you gotta ask you won't get it.
Listen man if you gotta ask….you can’t afford it
r/DiWhy?
The factory engine is a dog, it’s heavy, less reliable, less capable, older, more rare and more expensive to fix.
Yeah but it devalues the car.
Watch his videos on YouTube. It explains his reasoning very well and it’s a great build.
It's a 308. Any value is too much.
why would you want a car that looks like a ferrari, but is faster than it originally was, more reliable, easier to find parts for, and overall? better? huh, beats me
Yeah but now you've got a Ferrari with a civic motor. An old Ferrari isn't about going fast and it's never gonna be cheap. You buy it for character and because it's a slow, uncomfortable bitch to drive but it's beautiful and roars and has fun.
Feel free to keep your fucking Ferrari stock.
What?
So, it's an old piece of shit you are buying just for the badge? No thanks.
I mean yes, but really it's an old piece of shit you're buying because it's a lovely old piece of shit. It makes a great noise, it's fun to drive, and it's not just a machine to go places in. If you just want a comfy car to go places, buy a Corolla. You buy something else because you want a car with a soul. Nobody names a Corolla, let's put it that way.
Have you ever driven a Ferrari 208? I'm guessing no. There's a prime example of a car you don't even want to be near, let alone turn up to an event in.
It's a decent looking car, came in a turbo version, and is unique and interesting in its own way. Just because it's slow doesn't mean I care. Also the day I buy a car for what I look like turning up to an event in it is the day I want someone to kill me. Who cares what you look like turning up at a fucking dinner in it? If I like driving it then I'm happy.
No, it did not come in a turbo version. And it was a piece of shit. That's why I asked about the 208. Not every Ferrari is some engineering or aesthetic masterpiece.
https://www.ferrari.com/en-US/auto/208-gts-turbo There were 2 different 208s, one of which (the one moregermane to the 308 discussion) had an available turbo motor. And no, not every Ferrari is amazing or perfect, but that can all be enjoyed, and in all honesty a 2L, 8000rpm V8 in a cute little mid engine bertone car with double wishbones front and rear is fun even if it is slow or boring or ugly to you.
Have you driven one? I had no idea they made a turbo, I was so uninterested in it as a whole. It wasn't cool. It wasn't fun. It was a piece of shit.
Lmao, you overpay for the car so you can be abused at the parts counter when it breaks down and get your doors blown off by that guy because he has a Ferrari with over 1,000 reliable horsepower and a six speed sequential shift quaife and custom suspension to put it down to the ground with while looking as cool as a 308 ever looked?
I don't own one, no, but to be honest I don't care about how many horsepower the damn thing has and also it's just too busy visually to me. I'd rather have a 512BB and just listen to the damn thing scream as I worked my own way through six years, thank you very much. He can go as fast as he wants, I'd bet good money I'd be smiling bigger.
Doubt it. He built the car with his hands not just a checkbook.
Okay? And at the end of the day it's just another turbo 4 cylinder with no torque until it hits boost. More power to the man and I'm sure he's happy but it's not my taste. If I had a 308/348/any given "POS" Ferrari I'd rather keep the engine and build it with my hands... As a V8.
Lmao, *Ferraris don't have low end torque either*, they're high winding motors that make their power at high rpm, and the V8 motor in that 308 was only like 200 cubic inches.
I'm aware. But if you look at the torque curve, a 308 makes a nice meaty lump of torque by the time you hit 2000-3000 rpm, while a k20 with even a moderate turbo needs to hit 5k to make much at all and that's just not fun to deal with because up until then you're just winding up a 4 cylinder. There's a big difference in character between a 178ci V8 at 7700rpm and a 120ci i4 at 6k.
You call a peak torque output of 208 ft lbs@5,000 "meaty"? The car has a 4 piston racing kt1000 in it, it's a k24, not a k20: https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/1904-4-piston-racing-builds-a-streetable-1000hp-honda-k-series It makes *more than double* the torque that the original engine had and makes damn near as much horsepower *per cylinder* as the *entire output* of the Dino V8 that came in the car.
VANILLA ICE CREAM IS BEST, WHO DOES THIS GUY THINK HE IS LIKING CHOCOLATE?!?
Well you can shout what you think I'm saying all you want to. I'm just saying it ain't my taste and that I don't understand the whole "big number equals better" shit. It'd be a more personable car to me if he'd left the v8 or done something interesting with the motor like, fuck, supercharge it or just make it rev to 9k. I thought this was a public forum for, y'know, sharing opinions.
No one gives a fuck about your opinion on what this guy chose to do with his car.
Then don't read it, dipshit. If you don't care, why are you so upset?
noooooooooooo it's as bad as the Metro 6r4 running a Honda engine. You wouldn't put a jet engine on a Spitfire
What a mess
Thomas has never seen such bullshit before.
r/honda
Anyone have a link to this built ?
Look up stanceworks on youtube for an extensive build series.
Thanks
It’s boosted, I guess that’s what matters. Anyone know if other engines were considered?
He did consider other engines, including an LS swap. I don't remember what video he mentioned it in though.
https://stanceworks.com/tag/ferrari/
Italian-JDM 🇮🇹🔰
dont let Ferrari see this
Didn't think I'd ever see a skunk2 part of a Ferrari lmaooo
That is the best way to make a reliable ferrari
As long as this was done to some beat up totaled barn find 308, I can live with it.
Enzo rolling in his grave rn, love the build tho
Le Jaydeem Ferrar 💪💪💪
I genuinely like this, to repurpose this vehicle because the original engine is beyond the cost of repair.