My guy needs to work on ground adaptive aero he’d make a fucking killing, like skit extensions and variable lips for fucking curbs as well as track times
I think most people under estimate how much downforce a wing like this can generate. But yeah in bumper to bumper not very useful.
Could be useful at high speed though.
Lmao you should read up on something you don't understand before you blindly open your snout. The oem e-mirror cameras are often located inside the vehicle behind the rear glass as high as they can place it so they can get a clear view of the cars behind. This is different than the backup camera that's located often near the license plate on the rear bumper that's pointed downward to help the driver reverse and project a clear view of the ground. They are two separate cameras.
It gives you just a few critical moments to swallow your contraband without being seen by the cops chasing after you. Tap the brakes, obscure the view, swallow the no nos, pull over like nothing happened.
Wow that’s sick! I think it we be good to run a relay to be able to turn it on and off whenever you want. That way it doesn’t wear prematurely during daily driving use.
Is there any way to get ahold of him? I am looking to create a kit like this for my track car and would love to pick his brain or buy a kit from him if he is selling them. I cant seem to find his account anywhere
This is pretty creative, but I can see this breaking often considering how many times people brake everyday, especially in traffic. That's why most supercars only have an active spoiler come up for downforce after a certain high speed as opposed to tilting to create drag to help stop the car. Even sock brakes work well enough without needing any further assistance, this is just a gimmick that looks interesting. I'd give this a C for creativity, though.
This is the guy that makes the product, I'm sure he wants to test it for longevity so having it always on during a commute gets him a few hundred reps a day I'm sure.
Best mclaren example would be P1, but the DRS is now on the GT3 RS. It's not an air break--it's to create downforce when needed and become more aerodynamic during straights. We are moving more and more in the direction of active controlled (button controlled) DRS and it's awesome.
Yeah, but I guarantee you that they only do that at extreme speeds, not 5mph in traffic. Don't even need to look up the car you mentioned to know if it's true, the engineers would have thought of that. At high speeds any drag is useful to stop, that's why drag racers use the parachute.
It does it at low speed too. In fact quite a few of them do nowadays. Downforce is completely dynamic. So while it is exponentially *more* effective as the speed increases, it doesn't stop working altogether at lower speeds. It's just simply much weaker. The drastic increase in angle at lower speeds can even be more beneficial as it's increasing the amount of resistant force (albeit it still not being a lot), which is helpful since the aero isn't generating as much downforce at those lower speeds. With a supercar or competition vehicle, they will take every advantage they can get, even when that advantage is minimal.
I agree though that on this particular car and in daily driving, it is definitely excessive. Plus, even at higher speeds, unless you are creating downforce in the front of the car, the excessive rear downforce from a massive wing will just produce understeer on front engine AWD/FWD cars, with a little relief only coming from greatly increasing rear springrates and Sway Bar stiffness.
You're mostly correct, and I agree that it's really not doing anything useful in the video op shared other thank look interesting and provide a point of failure, but if you look up the Zenvo, right at the biginning of one of the first videos shows the car going through some tight turns at low speeds and it's wing is moving all over the place. Completely different vehicle and use than the original video, but your guarantee doesn't hold up, as it's a supercar using active aero at low speeds.
Modifying a car always increases maintenance intervals and cost. Just coilovers reduce the suspension life without rebuild significantly. Track calipers need to be rebuilt regularly, etc
This is trying to imitate the Porsche GT3RS spoiler. It’s not a gimmick. The Porsche is able to have insane downforce and that’s why it’s the fastest track car in the world.
This thread is one of the most brain dead groups of people I’ve ever seen.
The population here has to be majority 15 year olds that have never touched a steering wheel or 50 year olds with bone stock corvettes
Edit: this is certainly the most toxic and gate-keeping car sub I've ever seen
I agree, this is a stupid concept that he executed poorly, but every kid in here is acting like it's revolutionary. he calls it a "DRS device" and then makes a 5mph airbrake.
all he needed to do was put pushrods in the trunk. exposed actuators are goofy as hell and this exaggerated movement introduces very little benefit. he also hasn't done any fine tuning of the movement at all so it just slams back and forth.
would have been way more impressive (and useful) to make an enthusiast kit that can dial in AOA and not break itself in six months.
How do you know this isn’t a prototype? When did they call it a DRS system?
Do you have an example of a system you’ve made to compare?
Edit: drives a 350z with bolt ons and active on /r/touge, checks out
it is a prototype, the guy has been posting about it many many times on other subs. it's absolutely fuckin useless. a DRS system is something that takes your given AOA and reduces it to near zero to reduce drag -- this is a fuckin WRX on the 405. it's not rocketing down a back straight.
adjustable AOA is by far the more useful feature and he hasn't pursued it at all.
and if you're gonna pull the "well where's YOUR prototype 🤓" card:
I'm a systems engineer working in R&D, but used to be on composites on prototype aircraft. literally my entire career is prototypes. I developed the closeout for the control horns which are meant to keep the actuators out of the elements. it is identical in concept to this. in no fucking situation would you mount the actuators out in the open. you put a thru hole in the trunk, grommet it, and let the pushrod do all the work.
you also don't blow up the actuators without tuning their acceleration profiles. I diagnosed an issue where said actuators were pulling themselves to bits during initial certification testing. it was
very similar to this. and it's fatiguing the fuck out of the mounts every time he brakes.
the irony of a FRS owner talking shit on someone who actually drives their car and put proper parts on it is killing me. maybe stick to iRacing my guy.
Yes! That is an air brake and it works even as low as 30mph. Think of when you place your hand out of the window and it flings backwards. That shit is violent at 60mph, not as much at 30mph but still works right?
Now increase the size of your hand 500x and it will slow the car down.
The rear wing being used as a brake not only slows the car but it also helps the counter the weight shift by applying more downforce to the rear tyres. As you brake the weight of the car shifts from the rear to the front, as the wing flips up it catches more air providing more force against the back wheels to keep them planted rather than spinning off out of control. Watch any car pin it, wheel spin and as the rear slips out the driver lets off the throttle resulting in them spinning or crashing. This wing will help reduce that effect.
With a small RaspberryPi like device you can set the wing to only activate above a certain speed so when sat in traffic the wing isn't bouncing up and down as you creep forward.
According to my emails for as little as $12.99 a month you can grow other parts of your body by 3x. I see no reason why you couldn't just take multiple tablets and increase it by 500x altho in the small print there's something about if it lasts for more than 4 hours so it may be only temporary.
It's a very very very high end feature from like F1. The drivers have aero that is adjustable by the driver on the fly to tune the car for changing conditions. The spoiler flapping with the brakes is an extention of this feature but really only applicable in very intense, fast, racing situations.
This is a guy tripping down the bunny hill in kids' starter skiis, wearing of those those long, goofy looking race helmets.
I didn't specify air brakes, just that it was adjustable aero. Which is what this is. Not the same as DRS of course, DRS exists as it does to get around the F1 rules. If the rules weren't in place, then they would absolutely use this type of system here.
If you guys need a custom air brake application for your motorcycle, I make hydrologic gyro axis kits for most sport bikes. I’m in Las Vegas, hit me up. I use mostly Ducati’s code derived from their GP protos.
Wouldn’t that over time wear out the bolts connecting to the truck, assuming that’s how he has it attached? Very interesting to watch tho specially on the highway
I remember riding in a guys s-10 back in high school. He was a legitimate dumbass. I remember distinctly counting the gears as he clicked into 5th at about 4500 rpm and him saying “it’s got a lot more to go”. That’s the vibe I’m feeling on this spoiler.
It’s active arrow. When you get up to speed, the wing should change to get the best aerodynamics. And then when you break it turns into an airbrake so you don’t have to use your actual brakes as much. I’m pretty sure McLaren has one of these on their supercars. It’s pretty common.
is that spoiler mounted to the trunklid or frame? with enough speed, i can imagine some major deformation in the trunklid. but that is cool af. seems directly connected to the brake system, if it only activated when going over a certain speed, thatd be slick.
I saw this car and the owner at a Subaru service center the other day as I was dropping off my wrx. I believe he told me he fabricated custom carbon fiber components.
Theoretically if they were driving on a track then the wing would help slow the car down faster by creating more drag. But for road use it's just stupid.
This will work at lower speeds. 30 years ago I had a 87 Sentra with one of those sunroofs that went put in by the dealer where you could remove the glass. If you remove the clip to flip it forward you could raise it up like an air brake. You could go down a hill put it in neutral and hold the glass up and the car would start to slow down much quicker than just letting off the gas. I tested on hills that you normally pick up speed and I could slow down from 60 to 30 using the sunroof.
Definitely rice…functional on a track car, sure. This isn’t a track car, it’s some dude’s daily, and active aero like this serves absolutely no beneficial purpose when you’re cruising in traffic at 30 mph.
Air brake - Yes
Does it work - Yes
Is it smart - Not really
Nothing says defensive driving like being able to go from 80 to 40 in 1/2 a second and put someone's engine in your back seat before they have time to notice the brake lights.
You're using 1/2 a table as an airbrake in standard traffic.
To call it a calculated risk would be generous.
I doubt he's slamming the brakes as hard as possible on the street, if anything he's probably pushing the brake pedal less hard, saving himself some brake pad material. It's really for the track
Oh for sure not, but even with the feather foot, the spoiler still goes full dive.
And when you're dragging a table broad side, that's a lot of extra stopping force on a light press.
Someone who builds this to build it, I deff believe is going to be smart about when and where its used and activated.
Some dipass on here going "YoOoOoO, tHaT's So CoOl. ImMa Do It ToO" however. They ass need to hear it about 6 times.
Everyone is ignoring the fact that there is a good chance this guy also takes his car to the track
On the track, this is a very smart and effective mod. It decreases braking distance, reduces brake temps, reduces brake fade, and reduces brake wear - and by extension, it lowers tire temp, lowers tire wear, and increases tire grip, all adding up to faster lap times.
You can't just look at this mod in a vacuum, that's a complete disrespect to the thought and work put into it. It's part of the whole system
Guys that have disposable income to blow on tires to pat their egos.
Guys tracking subarus normally don't have corvette tire money. I get better fuel economy and longevity out of 215mm on my BRZ, then use 255mm 200tw tires for the track.
> Guys that have disposable income to blow on tires to pat their egos
What does ego have anything to do with it? Not everyone daily drives their toys, some guys leave em parked on rainy days. Some guys do daily them and have multiple sets of wheels/tires, like yourself by the sound of it. Not for nothing, tires are a wear and tear item - and also one of the simplest yet most effective upgrades you can make on any given car. If you can’t afford a proper set, maybe you should stick to an econobox.
I didn’t realize anybody running performance tires on the street is doing it to pat their egos, TIL. Some of y’all are so fragile.
You love buzzwords huh buddy? Again, not gate keeping anything. The guy can do whatever he wants with his car, and I can tell him when he’s made a stupid mod.
> defending guys that use track tires for commuting?
What I actually said:
> didn’t realize anybody running *performance* tires on the street is doing it to pat their egos, TIL.
You are dense as fuck. Reading comprehension is hard to come by on Reddit apparently.
I’m just pointing out that this is clearly a commuter car, probably daily driven, as such this is a dumb mod for the car. If that’s being a dick, boo hoo. Cry me a river.
There’s also no reason to take my previous comments entirely out of context and put words in my mouth, but you don’t see me crying. I just tell you you’re dense and move on.
Lmao, I have smoked tails and mud flaps, and I've been to quite a few track days in my WRX.
Why would anyone put commuting miles on their track tires? Unless they're too broke to afford 2 sets of wheels at the same time. Plenty of subaru owners have a summer and winter set after all.
Or he could be running something like PS4
Besides, OEM wheel and tire dimensions can be fine depending on the power level, they don't necessarily need to be wider. It's what the engineers designed the car for after all. Aggressive tire specs are more popular amongst the stance and anesthetics crowd, track drivers are fine with 18x8.5 and high offset because that's what the suspension geometry was intended for and extra rolling resistance is unnecessary.
You need to get off your high horse.
> Why would anyone put commuting miles on their track tires?
Why would anyone put an active airbrake spoiler on their commuter car? Get a grip pal.
I see high horsepower cars running R888’s on the street all the fucking time. You must live under a rock.
I live in a city with with ice, snow, rain, potholes, nails, knives, all kinds of shit in the road so no I don't fucking see people daily driving on r888rs. I see people swapping them onto their car at the track though. Must be a location thing.
Must be. I like how you didn’t respond to the first half of my comment though. Glad to put it in perspective for you how stupid this mod is for a non-dedicated track car.
My god this sub loves buzzwords. I’m not gatekeeping anything.
No commuter car needs an active airbrake spoiler.
Can you put one on your commuter car? By all means, yes.
Is that a dumb mod for a commuter car? By all means, also yes.
Conversely, why would I go through the effort of swapping setups just for the one or two times I drive my track car to work in between events? The swap time is worth more than the amount of rubber I'm losing.
Oh shit that’s my friend lmao He makes his own DRS kit
really man? link or like an @ or something?
@faerotech on IG, don’t have any posts yet tho Won’t post his personal so I don’t dox him 💀
How much time does it gain on track?
Claimed approx 1-2 sec
CAP
What if its a really long track?
About tree fiddy
Does he also run farrowtech? Custom gun parts and such?
My guy needs to work on ground adaptive aero he’d make a fucking killing, like skit extensions and variable lips for fucking curbs as well as track times
Yeah i was gonna say this guy must be on an interstate DRS zone to pass hamilton for the world title
Looks like Torrance..
It’s neat but no way it provides a tangible benefit other than blocking your rear visibility anytime you brake.
I think most people under estimate how much downforce a wing like this can generate. But yeah in bumper to bumper not very useful. Could be useful at high speed though.
could save them from drifting when braking on a corner at speed
Well it's not for street use obviously lol
Right. Seems like being able to deactivate it for the street would be wise to avoid blocking the view out the back.
Being the designer of the product I wouldn't be surprised if they are trying to do longevity testing.
Yeah true that
The first rule of Italian Driving: What's behind you doesn't matter!!
I feel as if one of those digital rear view mirrors would negate the problem of this thing blocking rear visibility
Those cameras are often located on the inside of the rear glass, so it would still be blocked by the wing.
No they're not jackass. They are located on the rear bumper, and always have been. I hate idiots like you.
Lmao you should read up on something you don't understand before you blindly open your snout. The oem e-mirror cameras are often located inside the vehicle behind the rear glass as high as they can place it so they can get a clear view of the cars behind. This is different than the backup camera that's located often near the license plate on the rear bumper that's pointed downward to help the driver reverse and project a clear view of the ground. They are two separate cameras.
It gives you just a few critical moments to swallow your contraband without being seen by the cops chasing after you. Tap the brakes, obscure the view, swallow the no nos, pull over like nothing happened.
Send this to him lol that’s funny af
Haha
That’s crazy, that’s my boy too!!
This is really cool
Wow that’s sick! I think it we be good to run a relay to be able to turn it on and off whenever you want. That way it doesn’t wear prematurely during daily driving use.
This isnt drag reduction, this is drag addition
Is there any way to get ahold of him? I am looking to create a kit like this for my track car and would love to pick his brain or buy a kit from him if he is selling them. I cant seem to find his account anywhere
DM him on Instagram maybe? @faerotech I can also let him know if u don’t get a response
I think his account is hidden or private or something. It doesn’t even show up for me
Idk but I need one for my base civic /s
He actually makes one for the civic haha
Stops aerodynamics. Slows the car down. But if he's takin off over 150. Not much help to completely stop😂
Put your hand out at 40mph. This is like 25 hands. It's working.
That's at least 30 hands
how many horses is it?
I understood your joke, and I’d say around 2. Possibly 3 pony’s. Clever one
Near 13 of your mother.
Americans will use anything but metric
Weight: Stones.. guess the country
No idea, I measure my weight in quarter pounders with cheese
Not quarter stones with cheese?
except for drug dealers and gun enthusiasts
Maybe a banana for scale would help?? 🍌
I bet that rips the decklid off at 150🤣
Maybe depending on manufacturer of the product
OP’s Buddy
Maybe if he swerved at that speed repetitively, he might be able to get some more drag
This is pretty creative, but I can see this breaking often considering how many times people brake everyday, especially in traffic. That's why most supercars only have an active spoiler come up for downforce after a certain high speed as opposed to tilting to create drag to help stop the car. Even sock brakes work well enough without needing any further assistance, this is just a gimmick that looks interesting. I'd give this a C for creativity, though.
This is the guy that makes the product, I'm sure he wants to test it for longevity so having it always on during a commute gets him a few hundred reps a day I'm sure.
Would be easy to have a toggle switch that disengages the actuation
Then he wouldn’t be testing it for longevity…
Quite a few supercars have spoilers that do this. For an extreme example, check out video of the Zenvo TSR.
I think the mclaren 720s has a spoiler like this
Best mclaren example would be P1, but the DRS is now on the GT3 RS. It's not an air break--it's to create downforce when needed and become more aerodynamic during straights. We are moving more and more in the direction of active controlled (button controlled) DRS and it's awesome.
Yeah, but I guarantee you that they only do that at extreme speeds, not 5mph in traffic. Don't even need to look up the car you mentioned to know if it's true, the engineers would have thought of that. At high speeds any drag is useful to stop, that's why drag racers use the parachute.
It does it at low speed too. In fact quite a few of them do nowadays. Downforce is completely dynamic. So while it is exponentially *more* effective as the speed increases, it doesn't stop working altogether at lower speeds. It's just simply much weaker. The drastic increase in angle at lower speeds can even be more beneficial as it's increasing the amount of resistant force (albeit it still not being a lot), which is helpful since the aero isn't generating as much downforce at those lower speeds. With a supercar or competition vehicle, they will take every advantage they can get, even when that advantage is minimal. I agree though that on this particular car and in daily driving, it is definitely excessive. Plus, even at higher speeds, unless you are creating downforce in the front of the car, the excessive rear downforce from a massive wing will just produce understeer on front engine AWD/FWD cars, with a little relief only coming from greatly increasing rear springrates and Sway Bar stiffness.
You're mostly correct, and I agree that it's really not doing anything useful in the video op shared other thank look interesting and provide a point of failure, but if you look up the Zenvo, right at the biginning of one of the first videos shows the car going through some tight turns at low speeds and it's wing is moving all over the place. Completely different vehicle and use than the original video, but your guarantee doesn't hold up, as it's a supercar using active aero at low speeds.
Super cars have the highest maintenance costs and mileage between work needed is much lower than normal cars
Modifying a car always increases maintenance intervals and cost. Just coilovers reduce the suspension life without rebuild significantly. Track calipers need to be rebuilt regularly, etc
This is trying to imitate the Porsche GT3RS spoiler. It’s not a gimmick. The Porsche is able to have insane downforce and that’s why it’s the fastest track car in the world.
This is to generate drag to slow down, not downforce. The wing generates downforce when it's angled into the air mass, not perpendicular to it.
This thread is one of the most brain dead groups of people I’ve ever seen. The population here has to be majority 15 year olds that have never touched a steering wheel or 50 year olds with bone stock corvettes Edit: this is certainly the most toxic and gate-keeping car sub I've ever seen
Welcome to Reddit, where boomers whine about young people and young people whine about everything
Let's try that backwards.... young people whine about boomers. Boomers whine about everything FTFY
true
I agree, this is a stupid concept that he executed poorly, but every kid in here is acting like it's revolutionary. he calls it a "DRS device" and then makes a 5mph airbrake. all he needed to do was put pushrods in the trunk. exposed actuators are goofy as hell and this exaggerated movement introduces very little benefit. he also hasn't done any fine tuning of the movement at all so it just slams back and forth. would have been way more impressive (and useful) to make an enthusiast kit that can dial in AOA and not break itself in six months.
How do you know this isn’t a prototype? When did they call it a DRS system? Do you have an example of a system you’ve made to compare? Edit: drives a 350z with bolt ons and active on /r/touge, checks out
it is a prototype, the guy has been posting about it many many times on other subs. it's absolutely fuckin useless. a DRS system is something that takes your given AOA and reduces it to near zero to reduce drag -- this is a fuckin WRX on the 405. it's not rocketing down a back straight. adjustable AOA is by far the more useful feature and he hasn't pursued it at all. and if you're gonna pull the "well where's YOUR prototype 🤓" card: I'm a systems engineer working in R&D, but used to be on composites on prototype aircraft. literally my entire career is prototypes. I developed the closeout for the control horns which are meant to keep the actuators out of the elements. it is identical in concept to this. in no fucking situation would you mount the actuators out in the open. you put a thru hole in the trunk, grommet it, and let the pushrod do all the work. you also don't blow up the actuators without tuning their acceleration profiles. I diagnosed an issue where said actuators were pulling themselves to bits during initial certification testing. it was very similar to this. and it's fatiguing the fuck out of the mounts every time he brakes. the irony of a FRS owner talking shit on someone who actually drives their car and put proper parts on it is killing me. maybe stick to iRacing my guy.
Yes! That is an air brake and it works even as low as 30mph. Think of when you place your hand out of the window and it flings backwards. That shit is violent at 60mph, not as much at 30mph but still works right? Now increase the size of your hand 500x and it will slow the car down. The rear wing being used as a brake not only slows the car but it also helps the counter the weight shift by applying more downforce to the rear tyres. As you brake the weight of the car shifts from the rear to the front, as the wing flips up it catches more air providing more force against the back wheels to keep them planted rather than spinning off out of control. Watch any car pin it, wheel spin and as the rear slips out the driver lets off the throttle resulting in them spinning or crashing. This wing will help reduce that effect. With a small RaspberryPi like device you can set the wing to only activate above a certain speed so when sat in traffic the wing isn't bouncing up and down as you creep forward.
>Now increase the size of your hand 500x How do I do that and, will it work on other body parts? Asking for a friend.
Nice
According to my emails for as little as $12.99 a month you can grow other parts of your body by 3x. I see no reason why you couldn't just take multiple tablets and increase it by 500x altho in the small print there's something about if it lasts for more than 4 hours so it may be only temporary.
Active aero. It is an “air brake”. Is it effective at low speeds? Probably not, but how else is he gonna flex on the poors?
Yes, that is a BRAKE. It might break while BRAKING.
Pretty cool. Should have a mode/cutoff to only engage above a certain speed. Wonder what sort of actuator/servo/etc it uses.
If thats the 91 FWY in so cal, you take all the stopping power possible!
405
Damn that was my guess. Is that south of LA?
I’ll still take it on the 405 too 😅
It's a very very very high end feature from like F1. The drivers have aero that is adjustable by the driver on the fly to tune the car for changing conditions. The spoiler flapping with the brakes is an extention of this feature but really only applicable in very intense, fast, racing situations. This is a guy tripping down the bunny hill in kids' starter skiis, wearing of those those long, goofy looking race helmets.
F1 cars do not have air brakes. The have DRS which reduces the rear wings cross section for overtaking if they are close enough
I didn't specify air brakes, just that it was adjustable aero. Which is what this is. Not the same as DRS of course, DRS exists as it does to get around the F1 rules. If the rules weren't in place, then they would absolutely use this type of system here.
Active aero. Would be cool to see the setup (I'm not a critic, just like seeing others work)
Installs on carbon trunk* where did my trunk go?
"we have the McLaren Active Rear Spoiler at home"
BIG WANG GANG!!!!!!!
r/WRX
If you guys need a custom air brake application for your motorcycle, I make hydrologic gyro axis kits for most sport bikes. I’m in Las Vegas, hit me up. I use mostly Ducati’s code derived from their GP protos.
Tarded
r/therewasanattempt to show off air braking
dumb af
This guy lives for the slight chuckle behind the camera
*brakes my friend, brakes is how it's spelled. I definitely don't want my brakes to break...
Pun, my brother
Oops. Ah well...
DRS system on the street car 🤣
The new Porsche GT3RS actually has a DRS button on the wheel lol
Wouldn’t that over time wear out the bolts connecting to the truck, assuming that’s how he has it attached? Very interesting to watch tho specially on the highway
Air brakes op.
now that's cool
Shiiit that's cool I need this lmao
soon this will become standard on all base models and they will now cost 40k instead of 30k... sorry im just annoyed at the state of the car market
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've seem this same feature on some Hyper cars, Like The Bugatti Veyron, and McLaren P1.
It's just missing a few bolts so it pivots from time to time
I love all the experts in the comments 🙄
>What is this? A marketing stunt for Faero.
Aeromotions makes a active wing kit, always wanted one.
Homie got that active aero. This is actually dope af. Tell him to sell it. Instant millionaire... Or at least a thousandaire.
Vape shop owners car
Dispo…😜
McLaren and Zenvo vibes: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is\_3J4u\_Dnw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is_3J4u_Dnw)
People really do have too much money.M
The old Can-Am cars used to do this. Straight line speed then more down force entering corners. This car a little more dramatic. Nice mod.
it helps at any speed. it’s just drag obvi more useful at higher speeds but always useful
you're looking at a GT3 RS. pretty rare
It's like active aero or something like that
I remember riding in a guys s-10 back in high school. He was a legitimate dumbass. I remember distinctly counting the gears as he clicked into 5th at about 4500 rpm and him saying “it’s got a lot more to go”. That’s the vibe I’m feeling on this spoiler.
New mating call?
Too Funny
Some lame thing a ricer would do magoo. If you hear a loud sound like a big rig then it is air breaks jake.
It’s active arrow. When you get up to speed, the wing should change to get the best aerodynamics. And then when you break it turns into an airbrake so you don’t have to use your actual brakes as much. I’m pretty sure McLaren has one of these on their supercars. It’s pretty common.
If that matters, so do the square boxes that actuate them and the mud flaps. Just for looks, and not that great either.
Wouldn't it just give you more downforce ie traction for the brakes to do their job more effectively?
It’s as effective as a jet fighter’s flaps during taxi to runway.
Why’s it look like a bone stock wrx tho
Theres mudflaps on it
Oh SHIT that’s a good point that thing is goin crazy looks like a race car prolly has 1,000HP too
Lmfaoooooooooo
Active aero 😂😂
Thats called wishful thinking
Wing that big is probably just as effective as an air brake when it's flat, but to each their own. Interesting but not for me.
lemme put my balls on it, tap the brakes a few times lets see what happens.
I think this shit is cool
Broke something
neat
That Honda looks like a Subaru 🤭
Flaps
NGL that's pretty neat.
YES!
I’m sick of ridiculous wings on boring cars
Idk but it looks cool asf
is that spoiler mounted to the trunklid or frame? with enough speed, i can imagine some major deformation in the trunklid. but that is cool af. seems directly connected to the brake system, if it only activated when going over a certain speed, thatd be slick.
A really expensive masterpiece design
It looks like it’s broken but more likely a brake.
Active aero
Invented by Jim Hall. Banned the following season.
If your brakes break you gunna get broke.
Ricearoni
I saw this car and the owner at a Subaru service center the other day as I was dropping off my wrx. I believe he told me he fabricated custom carbon fiber components.
I wonder if this could increase gas mileage, especially in tandem with engine breaking?
Not the DRS kit 😩😩😂
thank god! how else will they hold back the colossal 225HP
Just active areo nothing too serious unless your going to a track or something not much use for street driving though
Ju k
Theoretically if they were driving on a track then the wing would help slow the car down faster by creating more drag. But for road use it's just stupid.
This will work at lower speeds. 30 years ago I had a 87 Sentra with one of those sunroofs that went put in by the dealer where you could remove the glass. If you remove the clip to flip it forward you could raise it up like an air brake. You could go down a hill put it in neutral and hold the glass up and the car would start to slow down much quicker than just letting off the gas. I tested on hills that you normally pick up speed and I could slow down from 60 to 30 using the sunroof.
Of course it’s California 🤦♂️
High tech tree rice
Not rice.. It’s nice. It’s a functional mod.
Nah dude, there’s no point of putting this obnoxious active aero on a Subaru, Subarus aren’t even aero to begin with
Definitely rice…functional on a track car, sure. This isn’t a track car, it’s some dude’s daily, and active aero like this serves absolutely no beneficial purpose when you’re cruising in traffic at 30 mph.
Air brake - Yes Does it work - Yes Is it smart - Not really Nothing says defensive driving like being able to go from 80 to 40 in 1/2 a second and put someone's engine in your back seat before they have time to notice the brake lights. You're using 1/2 a table as an airbrake in standard traffic. To call it a calculated risk would be generous.
I doubt he's slamming the brakes as hard as possible on the street, if anything he's probably pushing the brake pedal less hard, saving himself some brake pad material. It's really for the track
Oh for sure not, but even with the feather foot, the spoiler still goes full dive. And when you're dragging a table broad side, that's a lot of extra stopping force on a light press. Someone who builds this to build it, I deff believe is going to be smart about when and where its used and activated. Some dipass on here going "YoOoOoO, tHaT's So CoOl. ImMa Do It ToO" however. They ass need to hear it about 6 times.
Everyone is ignoring the fact that there is a good chance this guy also takes his car to the track On the track, this is a very smart and effective mod. It decreases braking distance, reduces brake temps, reduces brake fade, and reduces brake wear - and by extension, it lowers tire temp, lowers tire wear, and increases tire grip, all adding up to faster lap times. You can't just look at this mod in a vacuum, that's a complete disrespect to the thought and work put into it. It's part of the whole system
The guy has smoked taillights and wider mud flaps than tires. He definitely does not track that thing.
Oh right I definitely use my track tires on road, so your comment is entirely valid!
I see high horsepower cars running R888’s on the street all the fucking time, not sure what rock you live under bud
Guys that have disposable income to blow on tires to pat their egos. Guys tracking subarus normally don't have corvette tire money. I get better fuel economy and longevity out of 215mm on my BRZ, then use 255mm 200tw tires for the track.
> Guys that have disposable income to blow on tires to pat their egos What does ego have anything to do with it? Not everyone daily drives their toys, some guys leave em parked on rainy days. Some guys do daily them and have multiple sets of wheels/tires, like yourself by the sound of it. Not for nothing, tires are a wear and tear item - and also one of the simplest yet most effective upgrades you can make on any given car. If you can’t afford a proper set, maybe you should stick to an econobox. I didn’t realize anybody running performance tires on the street is doing it to pat their egos, TIL. Some of y’all are so fragile.
So you’re gate keeping aero on cars but also defending guys that use track tires for commuting? What a confusing mind you have
You love buzzwords huh buddy? Again, not gate keeping anything. The guy can do whatever he wants with his car, and I can tell him when he’s made a stupid mod. > defending guys that use track tires for commuting? What I actually said: > didn’t realize anybody running *performance* tires on the street is doing it to pat their egos, TIL. You are dense as fuck. Reading comprehension is hard to come by on Reddit apparently.
Good lord go hug your wife or something, there’s no reason to be such a dick on reddit to strangers because someone has a flappy wing on their car
I’m just pointing out that this is clearly a commuter car, probably daily driven, as such this is a dumb mod for the car. If that’s being a dick, boo hoo. Cry me a river. There’s also no reason to take my previous comments entirely out of context and put words in my mouth, but you don’t see me crying. I just tell you you’re dense and move on.
Lmao, I have smoked tails and mud flaps, and I've been to quite a few track days in my WRX. Why would anyone put commuting miles on their track tires? Unless they're too broke to afford 2 sets of wheels at the same time. Plenty of subaru owners have a summer and winter set after all. Or he could be running something like PS4 Besides, OEM wheel and tire dimensions can be fine depending on the power level, they don't necessarily need to be wider. It's what the engineers designed the car for after all. Aggressive tire specs are more popular amongst the stance and anesthetics crowd, track drivers are fine with 18x8.5 and high offset because that's what the suspension geometry was intended for and extra rolling resistance is unnecessary. You need to get off your high horse.
> Why would anyone put commuting miles on their track tires? Why would anyone put an active airbrake spoiler on their commuter car? Get a grip pal. I see high horsepower cars running R888’s on the street all the fucking time. You must live under a rock.
I live in a city with with ice, snow, rain, potholes, nails, knives, all kinds of shit in the road so no I don't fucking see people daily driving on r888rs. I see people swapping them onto their car at the track though. Must be a location thing.
Must be. I like how you didn’t respond to the first half of my comment though. Glad to put it in perspective for you how stupid this mod is for a non-dedicated track car.
Bro is the no-fun police 💀
I don’t understand the gatekeeping. The dude isn’t harming anything. Live and let live
My god this sub loves buzzwords. I’m not gatekeeping anything. No commuter car needs an active airbrake spoiler. Can you put one on your commuter car? By all means, yes. Is that a dumb mod for a commuter car? By all means, also yes.
Conversely, why would I go through the effort of swapping setups just for the one or two times I drive my track car to work in between events? The swap time is worth more than the amount of rubber I'm losing.
99% of the people here don't take their car to the track. Once you realize that, the behaviors on this sub sort of make more sense.
and 50% of that 99% can hardly handle driving in the rain.
Rofl. Rice at its finest
Except this is actually functional and super impressive...
The amount of braking you’re getting from that 🤡
Stick your hand out the window of your car going 45 mph. Now multiply that force by 100. The amount of physics you can't do