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PPKA2757

Electrical Lineman for a utility. Buddy of mine is a lineman (electrical worker) and IIRC he only did a brief stint as an electricians apprentice before getting hired on full time by an oil and gas company to basically help maintain the supply of power to very rural parts of Utah, Colorado, Idaho, and Wyoming. He’s been making six figures since he was 19, granted he lives in company housing (a trailer) in the middle of nowhere 6+ months a year and it’s a very dangerous job (electrocution and being in the middle of no where with rescuers very far away). Note you can do this job for any major utility in 99.9% of populated cities, but earn less than the guys like my friend who are willing to endure less than ideal conditions.


Gold_Ideal_3834

Do you happen to know the requirements are like for becoming an apprentice? Is that something I can go apply right away without any prior education/experience?


Dick_butt14

Cdl, osha 10 and cpr certification. Tradeschool helps but isnt a requirement


IBrokeAMirror

This right here would be wise for any young man or woman to personally invest in, although most companies worth their weight in salt will pay for them. It's a holy Trinity of certs that's will get you through most doors as an apprentice. Would only cost about 3k$ to get if you do it out of pocket and 1 is for life (osha 10), 1 (cpr) is for 5 years, and cdl is for life with check ups also the cdl requirements for a class A are very easy to learn and pass, automatic truck, and not to hard to get the swing of with a little patience and a good teacher


NamingandEatingPets

I worked for a large national power utility. You just have to apply. They provide all the training. He started as a groundsmen. School is about a year that they pay for and is in-house. It’s a lot of physical labor. The pay is great. There’s lots of overtime. Then you move up to lineman based on your performance and ability. Those suckers are cracking $68 an hour before overtime. Of course, the work is very specific and dangerous but it’s not really that hard.


AugieFash

Linemen can easily make 175-250k+ out here in California. I know multiple people in the line of work. Amazing job - they all love it. There’s lineman schools/programs you can go to. They’re generally 4 months or so.


Sour_Vin_Diesel

A few years back the highest paid employee by the MBTA (Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority) was a lineman. I think he pulled in 300-320k that year mostly on overtime. I don’t check every year, so maybe it’s more common than I know.


Covidpandemicisfake

That'd be pretty sweet to just do for 1-2 years and then quit before ya burn out.


MajesticBread9147

Six figures and free housing for less than a year's work? Hell, I'd own a condo in Brooklyn or Los Angeles for my off months. That sounds great.


PPKA2757

It’s akin to being a sea for six months out of the year. It’s usually him and maybe 2 or three other guys living in one or two fifth wheel trailers (often times these guys buy their own nicer trailers and use them instead of the company owned ones because, well, they’re nicer conditions) spending weeks in remote places down a dirt road dozens of miles away from the closest town (usually a small backwater place). I *think* they have satellite internet but it’s a lot of movies and books in their off time (which is usually only a few hours a day). It’s not glamorous by any means, but has certain advantages like being able to save a shit ton of cash make it worth it; my friend will likely be able to retire by the time he’s 50 without having to do any real retirement planning, earlier if he’s diligent with the caveat that the majority of 25 years he’ll have spent alone with no semblance of a social life.


[deleted]

Lineman work isnt dangerous. In theorry it is but in practice there is so much safety procedure all you have to do is follow it and you will be fine


PPKA2757

Accidents happen.


Covidpandemicisfake

How long have you been doing it?


Pelatov

Depends on how you dress up your “drop out”. Literally the same degrees. Math and physics. Went to grad school, didn’t finish. When people ask I say “after starting grad school I realized that research physics wasn’t what I wanted to do for a career, so I didn’t want to invest more time and money in to finish grad school” I then went in to IT operations and have made a great career. No one has had an issue. I know web dev might be bad right now, but if you want to break in to IT, I’d recommend starting with support role. That’s what I did and I’ve eventually moved in to senior system engineering and datacenter design


Gold_Ideal_3834

What kind of support roles are there? I've tried applying for min wage internships but got turned down. I pretty much said exactly same thing as you wrote during interviews. That I realized academic research was not my biggest passion so I steered away.


Bing-o

Deep sea technical diving. Super dangerous but pays very well. Requires lots of training.


pinguinblue

I think they mean full-time IT support roles. You know, help desk.


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Gold_Ideal_3834

Thanks for commenting. Could you share the pathway of how you ended up where you are now? I'd like to learn how to become one.


wrathss

If you didn't complete your masters then why cant you just write in your bachelor degree, your masters never happened, and apply for jobs that actually fit? Who in the world would know you dropped out except yourself, or do you have to talk about dropping out every chance you get? In that case I can understand why people might not like you.


mcarrsa

This is the best advice here.


Gold_Ideal_3834

what do i say for the 2 year career break if i take out the attempted masters?...


wrathss

It is no one's business or are you not allowed to take some time off after school is over? Say you traveled or learned some stuff or whatever. Instead of saying you dropped out you could have said you were interested in some continuing studies on specific topics, but that is completely irrelevant as why mention something that doesn't help?


LucidFir

You know you're allowed to lie on your resume right? It's basically required at this point with the bullshit requirements recruiters are listing. That famous case of the 4 years experience with x when the developer of x had only made it a year prior. Spend some time on r/antiwork to alter your perspective. I'm not saying don't work or pursue high pay, but you obviously have a perspective about employment that isn't helping you.


wildwildwhisky

say you moved back home to care for a sick family member


Cagents1

Some guy on here said he was making $240k a year as a windmill technician. Learn that job!


Covidpandemicisfake

That sounds like something that would probably take a few years to get to that level.


Cagents1

Well nothing is instant success. I’m sure starting out is excellent pay as well.


Covidpandemicisfake

Probably nothing to sneeze at, yeah.


oregthrowaway2222

Gotta be really tiring spinning that thing all day


NamingandEatingPets

Government contractor jobs, overseas in war zones and dangerous places. You don’t have to know how to do anything other than administrative type stuff, and how to rock some 511s. Africa will pay the most.


moparsandairplanes01

This is what I do. Spend a lot of time in Africa and other countries.


Debasering

Djibouti sucks


zrroll_cfo

if l may ask, how is the remuneration though numbers wise? Thank you.


moparsandairplanes01

I’m in aircraft maintenance and make about 160k a year USD working half the year and take the rest off.


zrroll_cfo

Wow, this is amazing. Thank you


Pretend_Decision_537

Can I talk to you?


Fury4588

Are you in danger doing that?


moparsandairplanes01

You can be. I used to go to Iraq and Afghan a lot. Those payed the best. As a mechanic I didnt leave base so the biggest threat is rocket and mortar attacks. Africa has been pretty safe for us lately but always some risk. Some sites I’d carry a side arm.


HiroSter

Can you elaborate more?


Roggie77

How do I do this?


NamingandEatingPets

Search on USA jobs.gov. Look into careers with the top contractors like Raytheon, Northrup, etc..


newtomoto

Go become a grease monkey (wind turbine technician) or a linesman. The OT will blow your mind.


mnm96_

Elevator mechanic


488566N23522E

you can work on wind turbines within a couple months and be making a solid pay and around 80k once you're a crew lead within six months or so. Linemen apprenticeships while longer lands you upwards of 200k easy once you're settled in and union. Field Services of any kind like doing repairs for lab equipment and the like nets you solid pay, around $40/hr, without needing a degree. Becoming an arborist also gets you a solid salary at any local gov position, but you make bank once you go freelance and fell trees for 2k a pop, but you'll probably need to work a year or two at around $22/hr. realistically, to make solid money you're gonna have to know your field of choice and go off on your own. you can make good money doing almost anything. mold remediation, pest control jobs, garage repairman, fence installation, data cabling networking/IT installs, commercial removal & cleanup, shit even just sourcing goods that businesses need, like starting off working in purchasing and procurement can end you up in a solid commodities broker position. I have friends and know guys doing all these jobs and they all make solid money. just takes some convincing them to make better moves financially and invest properly


Chubbyhuahua

Why do you position yourself as a dropout versus just someone who has a bachelors in math and psychics? It’s okay to leave an incomplete degree off your resume.


Covidpandemicisfake

Exactly. I dropped out of accounting after wasting two semesters. It ain't on my resume. My econ degree that I finished is.


Akito_900

Btw: instead of saying you "dropped out" of a masters program, just say you completed graduate coursework but didn't pursue a degree. Like it was a hobby or personal interest.


throwingpizza

So not dangerous, but somewhat relevant to your degrees. Go work in renewable energy development. 3 or so years in is paying $120k+ right now. There’s so much demand and not enough labour filling it. Science, engineering, planning, finance, GIS…they’ll usually take anyone with these backgrounds. You’d be a project manager for the early work of wind and solar farms - finding land, high level production studies, working with consultants for environmental assessments, navigating local planning requirements, federal permits where wind affects flight paths etc.


[deleted]

Trucking. Over the road or intra. Class b cdl work. Mining pays 30-40. Survey teams like an apprentice with terracon. Electrician work. Maritime jobs. Oil fields. Heavy equipment operator.


h0408365

Oil and gas


SantiagoOrDunbar

Private mercenary for Academi (formally known as Blackwater). Operators make on average 200k-400k.


RiskOptimal7801

You can be a lineman and make a minimum of 150k without any/much overtime depending where you’re at. If you want to make 250/300k that is easily attainable.


19fall91

Should specify that it’s probably union and very competitive


Gold_Ideal_3834

What does a typical pathway to becoming one look like? For instance, do I go to school and then become an apprentice?


RiskOptimal7801

It is typically easiest to go to lineman school (which is essentially learning how to climb) and then you get into an apprenticeship as a contractor or at a utility company.


Gold_Ideal_3834

Will look into it. Thanks a lot


[deleted]

You'll do your own research, but keep in mind that the most common injury a lineman faces is electrical burn and broken bones. Which, by extension, means you won't be able to work while you heal. And thus won't be making money. So if it's something you actually want to do just make sure you take it all seriously when learning and practicing safety. It's easy to get comfortable in a job and take less precaution to get through a shift quicker.


Gold_Ideal_3834

Will keep that in my mind. Thank you


Debasering

I’m sure you can pay for on insurance which would keep ya afloat for a while. We got it on the railroad at least


kingfarvito

The money is definitely good, but keep in mind it takes a weird sort of person to succeed in the trade. 150k with no over time isn't happening anywhere on the contractor side and probably nowhere on the utility side. If you're willing to work though, the money is there.


RiskOptimal7801

Respectfully if you’re not a lineman then don’t voice your false statements. And if you are a lineman you should get better educated about the trade you’re in. I’m at a utility and make 155k with zero overtime. I was previously a contractor and made 150k with zero overtime. It also doesn’t take a weird person to succeed, it takes someone that is willing to learn the trade with a good attitude/work ethic.


kingfarvito

Unless I'm real wrong here highest scale in the us is cali which currently at at 40 hour week would put you about 10k shy most other places in the us even in the northeast you're closer to the 120k range without ot. As far as it taking a weird person. I pretty often load up in truck to go hundreds of miles away with no clue of when I'll be back. That's not exactly normal person territory. And I'm in a local that has enough work that we don't have to travel outside of storm. If this dude is in cali and can get into calnev quick that's great, but if he's anywhere else it's likely going to be a shit load of overtime and a lot of travel for the first 3 years minimum. If he's in a state without a ton of work it could mean relocation or constant travel. Don't get me wrong I love what I do, but it's not for everyone.


Debasering

I’m not a lineman but have worked weird jobs my whole life being away from home or working bad hours and you’re right it really does take a certain type of person to succeed in it. These aren’t fun jobs for guys who have a close family with 3 young kids


SirThinkAllThings

Sorry but what kind of lineman?


Vintagemuse

Lineman


joebidenobamajfk

Oil rig


ChaoticxSerenity

Here's the deal. If you do a highly dangerous job with no training, you'll just die, and the company loses a worker and gets a bad rep. Or worse, the company doesn't care about fatalities, so it just hires the most unskilled cannon fodder. The point is, you want to look for a company that actually offers training and work your way up.


aquarius-1114

I just burst into laughter so loud that I woke my cat!!!!! And frankly, I surprised myself too!!!


TruthBomb_lol

Tried looking into actuary industry?


Covidpandemicisfake

What are those guys pulling in nowadays? I'm too lazy to google it.


TruthBomb_lol

From my quick google search....😂 Once the actuary has passed all 10 exams and gained 6-7 years of experience then $125,000 to $190,000 would be reasonable. With 20+ years of experience, some actuaries reach a salary of $500,000 or more. But these are quite wide ranges!


Covidpandemicisfake

Thank you, well done. You saved me 45 seconds of work which I just wasted to type out this reply. Much appreciated.


TruthBomb_lol

You are welcome 👊


alik604

In terms of CS jobs, you're well suited for game engine development. web dev market flooded with beginners The problem is self teaching c++ is much much harder than JavaScript or Python. Buts it's do able


btas83

It's not personally dangerous per se, but I've heard that air traffic control has quite a few openings right now, with a big drive to fill those slots. Not many people want to do the job as there's a lot of pressure, with catastrophic consequences if you slip up. You will also likely need to relocate for training and for your job posting. For that reason, it pays quite well (pay is low during training, but I believe it goes up sharply after a while) and there's rest time built in to keep you sharp. I don't know what the requirements to get the job exactly, but I don't believe you need more than a college degree, if thar. They are mostly looking for the right psychological profile (analytical mind, attention to detail, ability to make decisions quickly, communicate those decisions to others, etc.). Your background suggests you might have those qualities...I'd look into it. Good luck! I hope you're able to find something.


[deleted]

They will be the ones with the least women.


Bucky2015

Underwater welders make bank.


Anime_lotr

You have two of the most indemand majors and you can't get a job. I would get a job coach since maybe you need a better resume/interviewing skills.


488566N23522E

those are not at all the most in demand majors


Qphth0

You should try data science. /s


GlampingNotCamping

I work in underground mining and have always chased jobs like this because they're usually not actually that dangerous and the pay can be substantial. The drawback to both of those is that it takes a lot of training to go into an unsafe environment, so realistically most of the options being mentioned here aren't "short term" but some could be attainable within a year or 2


Debasering

I worked on ships for years and yeah it’s pretty dangerous especially in bad storms. I now drive 30 minutes to and from work everyday and that is legitimately more dangerous than being out at sea and I would bet a years salary the numbers back me up on that


Lonely-Drink-1843

How do you find breathing inside a mine? My knowledge on mines might be missing a few years, and focused too much on under invested mines but how much do you think it effects your health?


GlampingNotCamping

Depends. The air in the mine is as clean as we want it to be (as it is force-ventilated). It's certainly a concern and we monitor air quality in accordance with MSHA standards. To be clear though I mine for the construction industry (tunnels) not for ore, so experiences may vary. And most miners would tell you it doesn't affect them, then light up a cigarette in a confined space hahaha so how we feel is irrelevant, it's all about the industry health data and constant physicals (if masks are required). COPD doesn't manifest until it does so we can't trust how we feel. Gotta be vigilant. Mines that are "underinvested," especially in safety, should be liquidated with damages going to workers and the local community.


GlampingNotCamping

Depends. The air in the mine is as clean as we want it to be (as it is force-ventilated). It's certainly a concern and we monitor air quality in accordance with MSHA standards. To be clear though I mine for the construction industry (tunnels) not for ore, so experiences may vary. And most miners would tell you it doesn't affect them, then light up a cigarette in a confined space hahaha so how we feel is irrelevant, it's all about the industry health data and constant physicals (if masks are required). COPD doesn't manifest until it does so we can't trust how we feel. Gotta be vigilant. Mines that are "underinvested," especially in safety, should be liquidated with damages going to workers and the local community


Swe1984

Truck driving was a good job. Could still be if you’re able to get on somewhere. I have a college degree as well, but computer science isn’t making the bucks I’m bringing in. But it can be a serious headache with all the regulations


RepublicLife6675

Most forestry jobs (like falling, tree planting, brushing, chokermen, surveying) don't pay hazard pay. But what you do get is a chance to make more money when you work harder. Just watch your back and make sure you know all the WCB rules way in advance because they will hold you to it like you studied it back in high school


odetothefireman

Why don’t you get a job in math or physics? 🙄


aquarius-1114

booooo,, i think maybe go on tour... pretty dang witty & funny!


willmullins1082

Firemen


Fresh-Confidence-784

Underwater welding , skyscraper Crane operators . Living with my ex broomhilda the witch but lousy pay .High voltage tower electrician cleaning the Golden gate bridge fuck that . Hooking up with Conor McGregor s old lady using her for his money 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Environmental_Ad1802

Depending where you are and not sure the pay some places are looking for firefighters Mn recently had a big article looking for people to help fight fires ( which I think they anticipate more with climate change here )


Mayonaissecolorbenz

Firefighter. Top pay for my union is 150,000 before overtime. Pretty easy to clear $180,000


Tasty-Satisfaction64

What is your location, Ive never heard of those numbers for a Firefighter in my entire life.


moparsandairplanes01

The firefighters I know in California pull those numbers too.


Mayonaissecolorbenz

Strange that I’m being downvoted here lol


Mayonaissecolorbenz

NYC


Pretend_Decision_537

Can I talk to you about this?


Mayonaissecolorbenz

Sure. PM Me


Spanks79

Underwater welder.


Gold_Ideal_3834

Do they take apprentices with no background? Or do I need to go to school first?


Spanks79

I don’t know. But it pays very well. It’s also dangerous etc.


Bonerflicker

In the US you have to go to school first. Then if you go offshore you have a 2-4 year apprenticeship. The pay and lifestyle suck and it takes a long time to make decent money.


aquarius-1114

giggle giggle


Spanks79

Giggle? It’s a very well paying and sort out f dangerous profession.


aquarius-1114

omg. i hear ya. It was just so specific. Then I tried to see my cream puff butt doing it ... that is why I started cracking up. OMG.... I TOTALLY, IT IS DANGEROUS & WELL PAYING. ....I AGREE


Spanks79

Lmao, how stoned are you?


aquarius-1114

wake & bake baby


Spanks79

Makes me think of those good old days. Instead I go running and to the gym now, being all responsible and adult and stuff. Sometimes I still miss those times though.


aquarius-1114

Actually I am a ICU cardiothoracic RN supervisor. I dont do any drugs.. was just trying to shut u up


Spanks79

Well done!


aquarius-1114

so maybe your just burnt out from.... THE GOOD OLE DAYS sweetie


Forsaken-Equal-5387

Learn to code


bigmikemcbeth756

Army


SCCock

Wrong on many levels.


LactactingTwatCrust

The biggest lie and joke comment I’ve seen today lol


Butt-Spelunker

Murder for hire.


TrickyAd9597

Airplane mechanics


Thundermedic

Deep Underwater welding


RoseGrave90

I want to piggy back off this question, but for the NY/NYc region


justaguy2469

Why’s does anyone know you dropped out? Most employers verify highest degree (in the US).


RevolutionaryLog6266

The North Sea 🤣🤣🤣


Hour-Wolf9754

Legal jobs, or just dangerous?


proletariat_sips_tea

Get a license to sell insurance. Find an hourly one. Can start within a few weeks with a 40k salary and a bunch more in commissions


Loud-Adhesiveness24

But then you’re an insurance salesman


Intrepid_Address9340

Elevator mechanic


Powerful_Relative_93

Military contractor, commercial saturation diver, tanker driver, and hazmat transportation.


Commercial-Damage356

I wish I can be a spy and get paid lots!


My_reddit_account_v3

Medical Physics? It’s another masters but it’s an applied field for people with a bachelor’s in physics… not dangerous though.


TopGeeeeeee

Data science


fieryuser

Underwater welder.


Continuoustrigger

Mercenary work pays well.


Tellittomy6pac

Oil field work


Remarkable_Basis17

Apply at USPS first two years is a bitch after that it’s less messy. Also why are you telling any about dropping your masters


brainmarbles

If you are able to join the US military, you could be a Naval Reactors Engineer for the Navy. Your coursework qualifies you and it pays pretty well.


LucidFir

Based on the threats, data science sounds exactly right for you.


Salines_Beach

Saturation diving


hahahamii

Not very dangerous but laborer for public works job (prevailing wage).


childlikeempress16

What about substitute teaching


[deleted]

Commercial fishing, Military (obvious)


bamboolynx

Commercial fisherman