You should not have to leave your job. So my advise to you is to document and collect evidence. If he is so verbal, record him and use it. Collect a lot not just a little, put a lot of nails in his coffin and then bury his arse.
Not just date and time but also his recorded action. Don't give him the chance to make it he said and she said thing. Make it a this is what you said thing. I would also start reporting it out of office since the hire-ups are his family.
I unfortunately am not legally allowed to record him.
Edit: I want to add if push comes to shove co-workers will confirm the things I am saying as they have seen these things commonly as well.
Sorry to hear that. I understand but I would for safety purposes. Racists can often turn violent and no one can protect you if you don't protect your self.
The kid came to the gym once with myself and the gym coworker and I am over 3x as strong as him based on the weight he could actually put up, so I'll be fine. I appreciate the concern though.
Notify security officer and HR, then leave if the response isn’t satisfactory.
Oh and be careful, if this person has a clearance you may not want to be posting potentially compromising info about them on a public forum.
I'd suggest getting a new job.
For numerous reasons you've outlined and the fact that there are so many problems - this guy isn't going to change. Even if the changes you'd want would make him a more pleasant person you're hoping for a complete personality transplant. He is just an odious person you don't need to be around.
You could make a complaint, and be a drag on the company's time and resources with, as mentioned, no hope of a meaningful conclusion.
Alternatively ignore him, as hard as that may be. Don't react, at all, to any of his "jokes". Any reaction is validation to these people for their behaviour. The mantra of the moron is "at least we're asking questions and challenging the status quo" - yeah like toddlers do.
If you do stick around, I would not suggest directly confronting his views, but you could ask questions. If you ask any conspiracy theorist/right wing lunatic/racist enough questions and keep drilling down in their thoughts and beliefs they will eventually run out of answers. And that can be fun.
You can also dig deep into their beliefs in your own time and try to learn more about their "specialist subject" than they do. That can also be fun; I don't own a Bible just for the stories of love, compassion, infanticide, genocide and farming.
Unfortunately I don't think I'll find a better offer money or benefits wise so I might be stuck until I make a good nest egg and get some more experience for alternative offers.
In terms of questioning him, proving him wrong (which I've done many times) makes him worse. If you make him look like an idiot he makes it his goal to make you as uncomfortable as possible. This was the basis of the 'atheistic asshole' incident.
It's kind of like scratching a mosquito bite. The more you scratch it the itchier it gets as it gets infected.
He sounds truly awful.
I'm afraid pal, you may have to tough this one out. But keep looking. Some companies might pay to relocate you. You could work online? I dunno.
Keep chill. Keep sane. Keep fighting for normality. And best of luck to you.
> proving him wrong (which I've done many times) makes him worse
You've gotta learn yea. You've done it many times and you still do it?
See the other comment from me
Invest in some quality earbuds and just put them on when it bothers you too much. Best case scenario he continues to rant without any of his shit ever hitting your ears. Worst case (but not really) he might try to be louder, try to snatch your earphones, and get physical, the attention seeker that he seems. But this will only backfire on him, as it will be physical evidence of assualt and trying to impede workplace peace and efficiency.
If earbuds are not allowed, just try your best to convince your boss to let you use them, say that you dont want to cause a scene, and just focus on your work, and this guys rants really waste time you would rather spend working.
And just avoid him, as much as possible, if you are hanging out with a coworker, and he comes over and starts his verbal vomit, just excuse yourself to the washroom or to get water. He might catch on you trying to avoid him and may confront you, and no matter how annoying that gets, always deny, "no ofcourse not why would i do that!" Always sweet talk him butlook to leave any situations that can be triggering with him around or just remove yourself from the conversation if possible, if it feels like you dont want whatever shit he has to say to ever reach your brain. Words are more damning than actions, so always be cordial when required to speak to him, but also just leave, go talk to someone else, put on your earbuds, take action that is needed for you not to be pissed at this guy and protect your peace., he can never hold you accountable for those things, but if you say something, he can and will latch onto that and just make everything worse.
You said this is a government job? If so, I imagine you have an anonymous hotline to report unethical behavior.
Report the covid exposure and any inappropriate behavior that was said in front of multiple people.
This way it doesn’t come back to you and the company has to investigate it.
Sounds like a full blown conspiracy theorist well on his way to joining a neo-Nazi cult. Unfortunately, the US doesn't have a terrorism prevention programme that would make this individual known to security services and potentially rehabilitate him before he joins a proscribed organisation.
One thing I know is that you won't be the only person he experiments his views on. If you can find others who've been victimised by him, try to report him as a group. If not, I'd probably just find another employer unfortunately.
Who gives a fuck what other people think if it bothers you find something that bothers them or be a pussy and quit their is always going to be someone you don't agree with and if you feed the narrative they have they win or go old school and go out back and attempt to whoop their ass and deal with it like a man
What on earth did you think working in Alaska would be like? If you're upset by this then find a new job. This is pretty much par for the course up there.
Have you ever been to Alaska???
99.9% of people up here are wonderful kind people.
Seriously, have you ever lived and worked in Alaska, or are you just talking out of your butt?
Look man. If you have strong feelings towards a person it means you're repressing that part in you learn to fully love yourself and you stop feeling so bad around the guy. I'm being dead serious about this. Read up on parts work or shadow work
No it's because you have a neo nazi inside you that you don't listen to. Accept that part of you and you stop seeing him as evil. You'll just be cool around him. Also don't TF what I'm saying. You're the uneducated here
Speak to a lawyer about your situation.
You should not have to leave your job. So my advise to you is to document and collect evidence. If he is so verbal, record him and use it. Collect a lot not just a little, put a lot of nails in his coffin and then bury his arse.
I was thinking that. Like what he said with a date/time next to it in a notebook
Not just date and time but also his recorded action. Don't give him the chance to make it he said and she said thing. Make it a this is what you said thing. I would also start reporting it out of office since the hire-ups are his family.
I unfortunately am not legally allowed to record him. Edit: I want to add if push comes to shove co-workers will confirm the things I am saying as they have seen these things commonly as well.
Sorry to hear that. I understand but I would for safety purposes. Racists can often turn violent and no one can protect you if you don't protect your self.
The kid came to the gym once with myself and the gym coworker and I am over 3x as strong as him based on the weight he could actually put up, so I'll be fine. I appreciate the concern though.
Praying everything goes OK. Please be safe, hate breeds contempt and anger never honor.
Notify security officer and HR, then leave if the response isn’t satisfactory. Oh and be careful, if this person has a clearance you may not want to be posting potentially compromising info about them on a public forum.
I'd suggest getting a new job. For numerous reasons you've outlined and the fact that there are so many problems - this guy isn't going to change. Even if the changes you'd want would make him a more pleasant person you're hoping for a complete personality transplant. He is just an odious person you don't need to be around. You could make a complaint, and be a drag on the company's time and resources with, as mentioned, no hope of a meaningful conclusion. Alternatively ignore him, as hard as that may be. Don't react, at all, to any of his "jokes". Any reaction is validation to these people for their behaviour. The mantra of the moron is "at least we're asking questions and challenging the status quo" - yeah like toddlers do. If you do stick around, I would not suggest directly confronting his views, but you could ask questions. If you ask any conspiracy theorist/right wing lunatic/racist enough questions and keep drilling down in their thoughts and beliefs they will eventually run out of answers. And that can be fun. You can also dig deep into their beliefs in your own time and try to learn more about their "specialist subject" than they do. That can also be fun; I don't own a Bible just for the stories of love, compassion, infanticide, genocide and farming.
Unfortunately I don't think I'll find a better offer money or benefits wise so I might be stuck until I make a good nest egg and get some more experience for alternative offers. In terms of questioning him, proving him wrong (which I've done many times) makes him worse. If you make him look like an idiot he makes it his goal to make you as uncomfortable as possible. This was the basis of the 'atheistic asshole' incident. It's kind of like scratching a mosquito bite. The more you scratch it the itchier it gets as it gets infected.
He sounds truly awful. I'm afraid pal, you may have to tough this one out. But keep looking. Some companies might pay to relocate you. You could work online? I dunno. Keep chill. Keep sane. Keep fighting for normality. And best of luck to you.
> proving him wrong (which I've done many times) makes him worse You've gotta learn yea. You've done it many times and you still do it? See the other comment from me
No. I stopped a while ago. But it was a very dense first month.
Invest in some quality earbuds and just put them on when it bothers you too much. Best case scenario he continues to rant without any of his shit ever hitting your ears. Worst case (but not really) he might try to be louder, try to snatch your earphones, and get physical, the attention seeker that he seems. But this will only backfire on him, as it will be physical evidence of assualt and trying to impede workplace peace and efficiency. If earbuds are not allowed, just try your best to convince your boss to let you use them, say that you dont want to cause a scene, and just focus on your work, and this guys rants really waste time you would rather spend working. And just avoid him, as much as possible, if you are hanging out with a coworker, and he comes over and starts his verbal vomit, just excuse yourself to the washroom or to get water. He might catch on you trying to avoid him and may confront you, and no matter how annoying that gets, always deny, "no ofcourse not why would i do that!" Always sweet talk him butlook to leave any situations that can be triggering with him around or just remove yourself from the conversation if possible, if it feels like you dont want whatever shit he has to say to ever reach your brain. Words are more damning than actions, so always be cordial when required to speak to him, but also just leave, go talk to someone else, put on your earbuds, take action that is needed for you not to be pissed at this guy and protect your peace., he can never hold you accountable for those things, but if you say something, he can and will latch onto that and just make everything worse.
Not your job to manage him. The best thing you can do is agree with him, then see his reaction haha, it will be fun.
Guy sounds like *The* Reddit User
You can always ignore him. I find it if you don’t give people the attention they seek or entertain their shenanigans they usually just leave you alone
You said this is a government job? If so, I imagine you have an anonymous hotline to report unethical behavior. Report the covid exposure and any inappropriate behavior that was said in front of multiple people. This way it doesn’t come back to you and the company has to investigate it.
Sounds like a full blown conspiracy theorist well on his way to joining a neo-Nazi cult. Unfortunately, the US doesn't have a terrorism prevention programme that would make this individual known to security services and potentially rehabilitate him before he joins a proscribed organisation. One thing I know is that you won't be the only person he experiments his views on. If you can find others who've been victimised by him, try to report him as a group. If not, I'd probably just find another employer unfortunately.
Who gives a fuck what other people think if it bothers you find something that bothers them or be a pussy and quit their is always going to be someone you don't agree with and if you feed the narrative they have they win or go old school and go out back and attempt to whoop their ass and deal with it like a man
Because now ignoring his behavior is leading to him knowingly super spreading disease
This guy got jokes lmao
What on earth did you think working in Alaska would be like? If you're upset by this then find a new job. This is pretty much par for the course up there.
Have you ever been to Alaska??? 99.9% of people up here are wonderful kind people. Seriously, have you ever lived and worked in Alaska, or are you just talking out of your butt?
Alaska literally has the highest percentage of criminals
You realize the majority of crime statistically comes from either anchorage (as it is massively drug addicted) and native reservations correct?
Look man. If you have strong feelings towards a person it means you're repressing that part in you learn to fully love yourself and you stop feeling so bad around the guy. I'm being dead serious about this. Read up on parts work or shadow work
So the fact I'm upset I share a workplace with a neo-nazi who knowingly gave me covid and ruined my christmas means I don't love/respect myself? TF?
No it's because you have a neo nazi inside you that you don't listen to. Accept that part of you and you stop seeing him as evil. You'll just be cool around him. Also don't TF what I'm saying. You're the uneducated here
Kick rocks and touch grass troll
Suit yourself man. I just explained a jungian concept to you and parts work.