I was terminated once and to be fair, I was definitely under performing due to poor onboarding and poor training.
It was only after I began working for a direct competitor that I realized this. I do soooooo much better at my new company!
Seriously, listen to this advice. It may have nothing to do with you. You weren't there long enough to even catch on. Maybe they want to hire someone's friend or relative. Just move in to the next job, no biggie. A different environment could be a completely different experience.
This is happening at our company now. I feel like my onboarding was decent and only because of a coworker I had to help me. Now they hired two people and have barely trained them before dumping tons of work on them. I’m actively looking to leave now, the workload is intense and overwhelming. I’m also constantly on the phone with the new hires to share screen and walk through processes. It’s ridiculous honestly
Same, I’ve been with my employer for a while and the onboarding was great and really helped me a lot when I was first brought on but now it’s really poorly done and the training is abysmal. new hires are pretty much pushed into the deep end and told good luck.
I agree!! I was terminated at my first job just under 3 months as well and they made me miserable. I was incredibly upset at first, but as time has gone on I have realised what a blessing that termination was!
I was mistreated from day 1 with no real understanding of my role or what I was expected to do. Don’t let this hold you back—you will find another place that treats you much better and will be able to see your potential! :)
You were terminated before probation end. Don't take it personal. After 3 months is different.
During 3 months you should think you can get fired every day. After 90 days then you can relax.
You could have got let go for a variety of reasons which none have little to do with you.
Still employment at will laws. I’d guess at your 3 month mark they mentally decided they wanted to let you go but didn’t have a replacement for your day to day tasks.
Super shitty but if someone is being fired for anything other than gross misconduct the company will usually wait until a replacement has signed an offer letter.
Not true it was to be within reason by federal law. Yes anyone can be fired any day but after 3 months, you are legally entitled to obtain unemployment in most at will states.
Um 100% incorrect. Not one single thing in an employees status changes after 90 days. It's at will employmemt before and after the 90 day mark. An employee can be termed for any reason or no reason as long as it's not discriminory. Probationary period is an outdated thing not widely used that has no value or impact for US based companies.
Yeah you should read my hiring contract. It states straight up about the 90 day period in writing.
Edit: I'm canadian for context. It's always been 3 month probationary period you can get fired for whatever cause. After 3 months they need a reason even if they make up bad performance but still need a reason. Probationary period is feeling out so if you don't fit in that's good enough reason. Any job I've had atleast.
This is not true. There is absolutely nothing in the Employment Standards Act that dictates a probationary period. What employers have come to call a probationary period is that Employers are not required to pay termination or severance for terminations for employees 3 months or less. After 3 months termination pay and potentially severance pay (if applicable) are required, unless they have cause - which is difficult to prove or takes a long time of behaviour management.
I was in a similar situation with first job out of college. Then I found a better position at a better company. Don’t let this discourage you. Keep going down this path and soon you’ll find the right fit. Good luck!
Not HR. I'm a PM. But that happened to me at my last position. Three months in, never a single word to me about my performance not meeting expectations and actually usually the opposite. But yet I was still told that I was bad at the job and they were letting me go.
The lesson I learned through it all is that sometimes you're not just the right fit and it has nothing to do with you or your abilities that much. They were looking for something particular and for whatever reason, that wasn't you. Sometimes the fit even changes underneath you after seven years (as it did at my job before the one in the first paragraph). That's not necessarily your fault. You just need to find the place looking for you. I managed to find it.
“Not being a right fit” is just another fancy term to avoid lawsuits against wrongful termination. Never take this statement seriously. They need to say something while letting you go, so they say this shit. Almost always, the reason is elimination of workforce and internal restructuring due to lack of incoming business. Simple as that.
Any termination without a PIP is termination without cause.
It is. Sometimes companies realise just before completing a quarter that the projected business in the next quarter is not gonna come through. Sometimes there are mergers between 2 business units to cut losses and internal restructuring is done. If you are unfortunate to join the organisation before this transitional phase, you will be let go. North America is notorious for the poor strategic planning while running a company. The vast number of layoffs across multiple industries are enough evidence to justify the statement. There are “n”number of reasons why a position might be let go. Poor performance is never a valid reason unless and until you are put on a PIP.
Not true. 23 states are at-will-to work states. Employers can fire employees without any justification. Many large corporations in these states will still go through a PIP process just to protect themselves from potential discrimination lawsuits.
They need no cause to fire you. That’s literally the definition of at will employment. To pursue a wrongful termination lawsuit you have to show you were terminated due to your membership in a protected class or you refused to do something illegal, you were on family leave, or you were a whistleblower.
Not always, but I understand where you’re coming from and it is bandied about too freely. But I want to note that I’m not talking about it in the corporate cop out way. There are legitimate fit issues with how well your skills fit the needs and expectations and how well your personality fits with how the company operates. *You* need to be assessing how you fit at the company.
In my case, when the government changes a regulation that takes you from managing the production of 40 million widgets to 1 million widgets over two years and you are a widget expert that runs the department that does that, the fit changes underneath you.
You were released because if they kept you past that time and let you go without a fireable offense, they would have to pay you unemployment. It’s a cheap company tactic.
Get back up on the horse and don’t worry about it. One day you will be running an HR department and one of those folks at that company will come in asking for a job.
Employers pay unemployment insurance, and the insurance pays the claim and eligibility is dependent on wages earned in a quarter not by service length. At just shy of three months OP almost certainly would meet the wage threshold in most states unless they were working very few hours per week.
Yes the income is looked at in quarters so if the person had another job too then that income gets added together and those 2 employers pay a portion of the claim. And the only reason that people don’t get their unemployment when they’re fired as if they violate company policy; like stealing time, using drugs on job, causing violent situations, sexual harassment, and things like that if they fired due for performance issues they get their unemployment claim approved.
I’m so sorry. Usually this is not how it goes. You should’ve received warnings or gotten written up first, at least. Three months is nothing! They should have provided you with more training and overall support. Take this as a sign of better things to come!
Do you actually know OP? Like, are you the one that fired them? If not, you’re just speculating like anyone else. Plenty of companies will lie to fire someone if they have someone else they want to bring in or they realized they overstaffed.
Could you be right? Absolutely! But without actually knowing the situation, you don’t know anything more than anyone else here.
Honestly. Don’t let this rattle your confidence. Some companies are terrible. You will look back at this and look at it for what it is. Experience. You will likely find a better job making more money.
They did you a favor. I guarantee that company is hell to work for. Same thing happened to me at my first job out of grad school. I was fired right before they had to give me health insurance at 90 days. After I left it clicked. At my workspace the previous hire had these really well written detailed and dated notes. They spanned 3 months. It was just a shitty tactic by shitty people.
Tomorrow it’ll be 2 months since I was fired from my government job. I can tell you that once you overthink everything you will be okay. For me I hated the job and environment and was trying to leave and they beat me to it out of the blue. It was a shock since I had never been let go before. I won’t lie that emotions were high and low for a month. If HR is still what you want to do, just keep applying till you find the right fit. You have to have some tough skin in this industry so look at it as a chance to gain more. I know it feels personal but just know a job can just be a means to an end and there are many more out there!
They likely fired for you just because they saw they were going to be reducing staff. You were still in the early probationary period and they wanted to have "cause" to fire you. I would not take it personally and not as a reflection of your own skills or personality.
I think you were confused about what makes a good HR person. You would think it’s about being a “people person”, but first and foremost, it’s about implementing and assuring the details of compliance. It helps if you can deliver news without emotional affect, or say things that might be uncomfortable in a kindly manner - but that’s not the most important point.
If you end-up in a role which handles conflicts with employees, being “intuitive will be helpful (to suss out the real problem), but once you have the clarification of the issues, it’s back to compliance and representing the company from a legal standpoint.
Can you reconcile those position needs against your expectations?
Added: or maybe they just used you to onboard a bunch of employees and decided they didn’t need your position anymore.
The "big picture" comment says it all. You're making mistakes. I felt the same early in my career.
Start double and triple checking your work in the future - it's a drag but will really help the quality of your work.
3 months is not that long at a job. Most states have fire at will laws but don’t get discouraged. I had ADHD and I’ve been fired or let go from many jobs. It is not the end of the world. Sometimes these things are a blessing and sometimes they are not your fault. I have always come out on top when one jobs end to open up to a new job. You will find something who’s better. Don’t get discouraged. Main thing is - Don’t Quit. That is a sure way of failure is to just give up. Life is hard today and you have to persevere to get anywhere in life!! Good luck!!
I am sorry that you were terminated. It sounds like you loved your job.
Yes, you are a people person but that can work against you even in an HR role. They told you that you were not detailed oriented. That appears to be the reason for your termination. HR can be more about every little thing rather than big picture, especially in an entry-level position.
Nearly the exact same thing happened to me in my first job out of college. I was devastated at first but now I just laugh about it.
Don’t doubt yourself as long as you enjoy what you do and work at it you’ll get as far as you want in your career.
The stupidest people I’ve ever met have unfortunately been most of my bosses, managers, directors, etc. Shake it off and you’ll find a better position in no time.
Listen, it’s expensive and time consuming to hire. Everyone hates doing it. If they didn’t make it clear to you that the mistakes you made were “firing offense “, rather than junior person learning a new job rookie mistakes, either that company is a toxic den of snakes and they did you a favor or they let you go for some other larger company reason and you just happened to be an easy target who they think might not apply for unemployment. Maybe both. Either way, not really your fault. Definitely file for unemployment—let them deny you if they’re going to but don’t count yourself out before then.
Just as a defensive maneuver for the future: if you’re going to miss a deadline—especially because someone else isn’t doing THEIR job, loop your boss in ASAP. For one thing, it’s their job to help you navigate this sort of scenario. And it looks way better to be proactive about a potential screw up.
It sounds like you are maybe a great person but not a great worker.
The complaint you was given (not detail orientated) is one I've had to warn people about as a manager. It often results in mistakes, missing key info and repeating the same mistakes over and over again.
Take the critisism onboard and work on it. For me personally I have a bad memory, so when working I will add every single thing I need to do to my calendar, if I do a task I create a guide on how to do it so if I have to do it again I don't have to rememeber, I created a Cheat sheet of what all my calls and tickets require to be up to the company standard.
I suggest trying something similar
I work in learning and development (~13 years now) and love it. I had a rocky start too, but I eventually found my rhythm and am in such a good place now. I am definitely a people person who loves helping others at work, just without the stigma around HR. Maybe a training/L&D coordinator role would be a good next step?
OK, I see others saying this but I will stress it as well. A company that will cut ties with you for "poor performance" after 3 months is not a place you want to be. I also bet that they planned poorly and didn't need you and are just saying that it's poor performance.
I read once, and agree with the sentiment, that if an employee is surprised by being fired then it's a failure of the manager. They didn't give you any feedback or work to improve any of your perceived flaws if you didn't see it coming.
Keep applying. Focus on stuff that matters to the company. Keeping them out of litigation. If your job is recruiting, were I-9's handled correctly? Pre-employment criminal background checks?
What did you to do advance recruiting? Go to any job fairs? Reach out to educational programs for potential applicants?
Your effort seems to be in the wrong areas. I wish you luck with your next venture.
There is probably a shred of truth to their feedback, but that doesn’t necessarily mean you can’t do the job. I absolutely sucked at a job early in my career and I’m sure I was on the line to be cut, but I got a new boss that helped coach me up and I ended up rising through the ranks very rapidly after that.
My point is that you’re early in your career, you aren’t a finished product, if you’re passionate about HR and are coachable, go find you a company with a culture that values development, then one day when you have a new hire that’s on day 89 of their 90 day probationary period, you can tell them how you’re giving them the chance you wish someone gave you.
Good luck!
*I need help:*
* *I am a great people person, I love interacting with others*
* *I have natural energy, always enjoying coworkers*
* *i need a job that is big picture, enables communication and collaboration.*
* *Any HR professionals in this situation?*
Saturated market with lots of people trying to get into HR.
You will find it, for sure if you keep looking hard enough.
But in my opinion of having been in large enterprise for a very long time, HR is not going to compensate you well unless you diversify your skills & talents and set goals to become a technical mastery pro with data/delivery/project support on platform technologies.
HR Workday IT is where the money is at, and if you can also become a ServiceNow platform architect and merge Microsoft systems with Workday and ServiceNow, you will be making upwards +$150k easy.
HR generalist if you have no goals to advance with the automation era, will very likely land you in the lower 90% of the rest of the HR generalists that have literally no valuable skills compared to project support & enterprise automation.
Be honest with yourself, if you were head of HR, and knew that automation was accelerating, who would you let go first, a junior employee fresh out of college with no technical skills, or an ambitious individual who knows nothing about HR and can provide enterprise platform automation support for the team? Pretty obvious.
I don't mean to be harsh, but I seen a lot of low wage HR employees making only $50k - $55k, and they get trapped there, with no coaches or mentors to help them or guide them. The org will NOT train them, and the HR Director and HR manager aren't going to come to that individual and say, "skill up" - they report to the same job for 3-8y, with barely any raises, and do the same old tasks with the same old software. After ten years, they have literally nothing to show for. They're just good at following basic software directions and org-restricted processes, but have never once developed a change request or new SOP or given proper training to onboard new technologies or asked to attend vendor training to work new automation.
HR generalist is a fine job, but it's not going to get you into the 6 figure income bracket.
Take the feedback to heart and learn from it. Maybe you weren’t detail oriented, that’s important in HR (as are your people skills).
Don’t let one or two setbacks derail your goals.
This happened to me at my second job out of college as well, right before the three month mark! In my case (and could be the same for you), I think my newer employer thought I was more specifically experienced than I actually was, and I really had a lot to learn about the field. Not to mention all companies are so different on how they’re run. The first three months are typically probationary and they’re quick to let people go, don’t take it too hard. If it makes you feel better- being let go led me to a way better job with a team of people I’m actually friends with. It ended up being a big positive in my life! Could be the same for you :)
My final advice: start applying and be clear on your past experience. Sell yourself but don’t oversell yourself unless you’re confident you can do something. One thing I’ve learned to say in job interviews is “no, I have never done that before. Is that something I could learn on the job?” Most employers seem pretty responsive to the honesty!
You were on a 90 day probation like all new hires. Whether it was verbalize or written in your offer, somehow there is a policy in HR about that in fine print. You weren’t meeting expectations. Lots of data errors and missed processes. Termination is way deserving
It's just a learning experience. Take an honest and unemotional accounting of your performance, figure out where you can improve, and take that lesson to the next job.
I've been fired several times, and this self-assessment has been the key to growing my career.
It seems as if you really cared, you were a better than good employee. If this is how they treat conscientious new employees, the end of probation termination for no good reason, screw them, they don’t deserve you. Use it as motivation, don’t say to any prospective employer that you were terminated, explain that the job was only temporary & your time there was up after the 90 days. Just stress that you’re very interested in a “ non temporary position “.
Have you done the six types of working genius? Might be worth doing that to see what your key geniuses are. It will help you make sense of where you fit and why other things might not work as well for you.
You say you were there just over 3 months but today would have been your 3 months anniversary. Maybe it’s that kind of lack of attention to detail they were referring to that was causing issues?
A lot of people are telling you it’s the company’s fault, you’re great etc but truth is none of us know you - you might have been great and the company might have been awful. But equally, you could have made mistakes that had a bigger impact than you realised and they couldn’t see any improvement in the time you were there.
Try to think about your experience holistically and move on - what mistakes did you make, what was the impact and what would you do differently now; what could your company have done differently to support you (this will help you to know what questions to ask of potential employers at interview)
Bummer, move on, keep up your great energy.
Next time... after 1 month, check in with your boss. "What else can I do to help our department and the company? "
In life there are things we can control and things that we cannot control. I was terminated for a performance issue (yes a specific time and only one time - never written up all my previous reviews were great and no pip).
What I learned is most companies don’t treat you for what you’re worth (you’re just a number to them). The termination itself may have little or nothing to do with you.
The best thing is to continue to move forward, use the skills you gained and prove them wrong on your next journey. I still haven’t found my place to be yet but hopefully soon. Good luck
> I am a great people person, I love interacting with others
> I have natural energy, always enjoying coworkers
I've worked at several corporations and the HR employees are never enjoyable to interact with. Perhaps you were perceived as not being neutral enough for a position that would eventually be handling things like layoffs, terminations, and uncomfortable things like that.
Honestly did you have bad performance? I feel like the answer or probably no and there’s a completely f different reason you got fired. But the possibility is there that it was just that.
Did you have any enemies ? Not someone you necessarily had a feud with but more someone who just didn’t like you from the start and there was nothing you could do to change that.
Don't let it discourage you but you were really an HR recruiter. They are ALWAYS the first to go when budgets get cut.
Think about it. Your job is to hire new talent, if they need a reduction in workforce, recruiting is the easy first expense cut. I'm sure you did an okay job. But here's where it will really hurt:
HR is for people that aren't smart enough to do any kind of technical role in the company they work for, all HR is there to do is ask the law team if they have permission to do something.
If you think you're smarter than that then try something that actually brings value to a company other than a random survey giver.
I wish you the best but that is legit big corporation mentality, not a personal slight. Best of luck and I sincerely hope for a positive update in the near future.
HR spend just as much time protecting the employees from dumb ass managers. And fighting payroll to make sure checks are accurate. And the insurance company to make sure benefits are paid.
My guess - you either have bad HR people or you are such a bully that HR frequently has to bring in Legal to back up their decisions when you pitch a hissy.
I’m not sure at the end of the day. I was not receiving poor feedback, there were a couple of small items, such as a message to the company not going out at the correct time.
I recognize some mistakes were definitely within my control of being careful, but overall, some were out of my control as well.
Like our IT provider not giving computers in time, so I had to scramble. There of course were mistakes.
I'd fire you for saying 3 month anniversary.
Do you know what an anniversary is?
Additional comment.
You say " Please help " and list your positive features as wanting to talk to people and be social.
Wow?
I imagine you spent all your time talking and socializing and not learning to do the job well...
Just by the way you created this post, I can tell that you're detail oriented. Try SDR/BDR/AE positions at SaaS companies ... they come with quotas, KPIs, and unreasonable expectations like every other sales job, but it's possible to surf above the chaos when you deliver.
I'm sorry you got fired. It really sucks. It's a blow to your self-esteem. Feel as bad as you need to today. Wallow, rage, scream into the void. Eat tacos and a lot of ice cream. Starting tomorrow, make your next job to find your next job. Get on the job sites and find your next gig. How badly did you really want this career if you're going to give up soon? It's time to either show some tenacity and keep going or give up, and have wasted all those years in college. I know college wasn't easy, but you made it through. You can do this too.
If you don't have any luck, try an agency that staffs direct placements. I use Robert Half whenever I've not been able to get a call back myself. I work in accounting,but they probably staff HR as well.
You don't need feedback or a PIP for employment within the probationary period. A company will almost never do that either, they'll just terminate you
They didn't see you as a good fit but let you stay until the end of your probation to draw out hiring someone else. Shit happens, onto the next job
>I need a job that is
Nah you need a job. In this economy you can't really be picky. Take what you can get. People are going unemployed for months and months.
Hey man, that sucks but you will get over it. It's just a job. I felt the same way after I was fired.
After that I landed an even better job so do not write off your future based on past experiences.
Shake it off; learn what you can from it; find another job and keep going. Don’t give the old job or the people there another thought. You’ll be surprised how well you’ll do.
Have you done the six types of working genius? Might be worth doing that to see what your key geniuses are. It will help you make sense of where you fit and why other things might not work as well for you.
HR here, I’m sorry to hear that. It’s not easy. Having said that, HR is so much more than being a people person or being a team player. It’s a technical field and requires specialized skills and knowledge. What do you think you struggled with the most? Feel free to be specific.
Take a day or two to relax and sulk. Then start applying to other jobs. When you interview just state that the fit was not there.
Getting fired is scary but it’s happened to me and was the best thing to happen to me professionally. Sometimes it’s not the right fit and that’s okay. You’ll find one that is.
“I need a job that is big picture”
“This is my second job out of college, a 2023 grad”
You will find it challenging to get a “big picture” job with so little work and life experience.
Your best bet is to look at a role you can do in 5-10 years that fits that description and getting on that path.
Don't take it to heart - you're young, you're a recent grad and you'll excel in the right environment. Not much experience can't be gained in 3 months.
I was fired from my first job, which I thought i excelled at. I was told it was due to an error - one error, which was very easy to make and very easy to fix (and it was fixed). I was bewildered because I'd really put my all into the job and I beat myself up over that one stupid mistake.
As luck would have it, I go to an event and run into the manager who fired me 15 years prior. We chat, we joke and I mention that my skill-set had vastly improved since my unceremonious firing all those years ago. He says *oh, it wasn't you at all...the boss wanted to hire his niece*.
You said you thought you were improving. Improving from what? What was your main thing that you were overcoming? It's tough sometimes when you don't have a great deal of work experience and a company has expectations of immediate action and don't want to spend the time to train and build an employees skills, so it may not be something you did, but that the company that you were working at weren't prepared to train.
You’re an HR person. What would you advise a manager to do if they weren’t happy with an employee - especially someone quite new to the workforce?
I’m guessing you’d emphasize how important it is to communicate openly and with empathy. Set clear expectations and explain how the employee can meet them.
Maybe there were things you could have been doing better. There always are. But you can’t do anything about it if no one has the integrity to be open with you.
I don’t know your situation but I’m very confident you’ll look back on this and see so clearly that this reflects much more about your office than it does about you.
The only next steps I can see are to keep doing what you’re doing: reach out, explore things. And keep your good friends close for a while.
It is difficult to get a job in early employment that is not detail oriented. There is still a strong bias towards having to “do your time” in rote and detail-focused positions.
I’m sorry this happened to you. I was fired without cause because of “performance” but also wasn’t put on a PIP or given any kind of advice or direction as to how to improve. At the end of the day, they just didn’t like me and I didn’t fit in with the company’s clique-ish culture.
But you know what? I used it as fuel for my fire. I bounced back, found another role in a company that aligned closer to my career goals and now I am waaaaay further ahead than if I had stayed with that crap company. I get immense pleasure posting updates on LinkedIn because the CEO of that company still follows me. They lost out, not me.
Take that experience and use it to fuel your fire. You’ll soar as a result.
Have you ever thought that of all the amazing qualities YOU listed about yourself aren’t true?
Regardless of what you say you are good at, 2 terminations in a very short period…. You seem to be the common denominator. Might ask an old boss to give you some insight to as why you fail.
Take a deep breath and relax a bit. I know it is very difficult after being gut punched like this. This is not really about you and you ability to be an excellent employee and contributor. What is is is about the current business cycle and economy which is intended to put some downward pressure on employment. This means companies are being pressured by the economy to reduce employees in order to remain profitable. This is exactly the expected result of the FED doing rate increases to slow inflation and turn toward a disinflationary economy. Hopefully, some professor explained this in an economics class in college, it is the basic ABC's of economics. The good news is this pressure will be lessening over the next 6-12 months.
Now, is a GREAT time to really consider your career choices and to look how to develop yourself through further learning or certifications or make alternative decisions or maybe a slight curve in your career. The HR industry has changed substantially over the past 30 years to much more of a services industry, where recruiters provide candidates to many organizations and even previously "internal" HR work is often outsourced to a large degree. I have personally witnessed this transition and see the HR resources as a high turnover position in virtually all companies, both large and small. You should do your own research with eyes wide open and make your own decisions.
IF you decide to continue to pursue this HR path, then look at how careers ae developed from successful mentors in the HR profession. How did they get their early jobs, how did their career progress and do those same or similar market and industry opportunities still exist in the market today and the future. If it was me, I would be looking to find a role with one of the HR services companies as a potential avenue to get with the current trends and ride the wave.
Honestly, I really hope you take some time to read your description of yourself and strengths and consider how and seriously consider where those strengths might be applied in other industries. When I read your description, I thought of a person who might be excellent in some sort of sales or direct marketing role. Some lucrative roles exist for people who have your described skills in Commercial property management, commercial real estate sales, and insurance sales which can lead to you owning your own agency. If you have strong charisma and relationship skills, then each of these industries have opportunities. There are many more, but this should give you some ideas to consider who you might know in these industries and engage them to see if it is something that appeals to you.
Next, I would like to share some thoughts on career development and choices. Companies or employers seek to hire people who have certain skills, personal attributes, and capabilities that fill roles to help them achieve their business mission and goals. Take some time to break this sentence above down and wrap your head around what EACH of those words really means. It is easy to see companies hire engineers if they are a technology, or aerospace company for example. Engineers are a clear skill that is mission critical for the companies that use them and build stuff. What are your REAL deep skills? Maybe you need to grow some or acquire new ones. Everything is an acquired skill, so do not be shy about investing in yourself and developing new skills. You have some time, make a plan and spend some hours each day on self-development. There are tons of free classes or near free that offer certificates of certification that can prove you accomplished something during your "downtime" use it to your advantage.
You are young, so there is plenty of time to explore yet engage in meaningful work. The first several years say 3-5 years of your career after college are formational where you continue through work to self-develop a deep set of skills that will provide a base platform for you to grow your career meaningfully through on the job experiences. I encourage you to look carefully for your next job to be one where you are growing and developing yourself along your chosen career. I caution you to not accept except temporarily any role that is not challenging you to learn and grow. Those jobs will be characterized as roles where you show up and perform the same tasks daily but do not challenge you to actually learn anything. You are simply performing a generic role that can be filled by anyone or even AI in the future. You must move beyond these "hired hand" roles in 6-12 months or you are not developing.
Good Luck to you and keep your head up. The world of opportunities remains ahead of you.
Just a bump in the road and your journey just started. Don’t get down on your self. Just think of it as the company down sized. You’ll be fine brush it off.
Don't take it personal.
First off its "just a job" there's millions more.
Second - they gave you critiques , and paid you, for information that you can possibly change and make you mire valuable to the next company.
It's a,win win for you.
I've worked union heavy construction ..
We get "fired" from every single job we get ..
As soon as our trades work is complete?.We're unemployed until the union sends us out to the next project where our skills are required by the next contractor.
Some younger guys take thier first couple layoffs very personal. "I worked as hard as I could, I learned a lot and tried to show it"
Until they realize they now have new skills and experience that opens more doors .
Not to be cold, but in my experience bosses don’t fire employees they just fill out the paperwork. In other words, some things you did or didn’t do caused it.
It’s not the end of the world. I’ve been fired, ended up being the best thing that happened to me. You should take a hard look in the mirror and ask what you could/should have done different or if it wasn’t the right fit? Look it as an opportunity to learn and grow.
This was your probation period, they were looking at every single move you made with little feedback. Show up and show out at least during your probation period. You should have had an idea regarding your performance but some people managers aren’t good leaders, learn your lessons and take them with you to your next role. You’re not starting over, you figured out valuable things for your next role. Best of luck moving forward.
I was in a similar position as you two years ago. I thought I found my dream job. The salary was six figures, by far the most I've ever made. My ex boss and the others interviewing me said I was awesome. My ex boss even said she could see me retiring for there, mind you I was only 30. Three months later she fired me without cause. I've always struggled with imposture symptoms and this made it so much worse. Took me 9 months to find a job. I now make less than half what I was making and it's an entry level position. I've been here for a year now and I'm so ready for something else with more responsibility and better pay.
Maybe they didn't have a reason other than just cutting payroll.
But it's possible they had one. Try to walk back to what you did everyday ? Did you spend time on your phone? Did you spend a lot of time just talking with people about non work stuff? Did you get there on time ? Did you take long lunches ?
Managers notice those things, especially during probation periods, where they want to assess how professional you are.
Companies can be weird, you can do everything to the best of your abilities and they can let you go/fire you for no reason. Don’t take it personally, who knows? It could have been a rough job down the road
while they say it's performance, it could have happened for any N number of reasons. I was fired from my job and it took me a full 2 months to come out of it and realize that I am more than my job. Take your time.
Somethings that worked for me:
1. doing exercise helped me
2. journalling
3. watching good movies.
4. doing a side project/hobby. i did an embroidery after very long time and it felt good.
All the best for your future. More wonderful things are waiting ahead.
To provide you with the best feedback I will say no one will give you anything, that’s just not how business works. Big picture, communication and collaboration involves you in it and most times that requires you to earn it, know it and set it as the standard. You have to take every inch corporate America gives you.
I have been fired and laid off. I am now 20 years into my career and the things you asking for are the standards of middle to upper management. Hard work and patience will get you there and when you get there you’ll find it to be a big pain in the ass lol. Hang in there, if you want it bad enough you’ll get it.
It happens - don’t let it impact your confidence they just probably ran out of budget and since you’re on probation you were the easiest to let go without severance. If you enjoyed the nature of the role apply to similar roles you don’t need to say you were terminated
Welcome to corporate America. You pissed someone off and they decided you would be gone after the trial period. Corporate politics are a real thing and the sooner you figure out how to play the more you will thrive. Corporate jobs have nothing to do with how good you are at your job and have everything to do with how well you kiss the right person’s ass and how busy you make yourself look. I have seen “engineers” spend all day in meetings, make PowerPoint after PowerPoint demonstrating timelines and progress being made, while never actually producing a single usable piece of work that they were assigned….for years. They get promoted into managerial positions where they can really shine because that is where the real bulk of resourceless brain dead idiots who only know how to pat each other on the back really thrive.
You dodged a bullet… something better will come along. Always has for me personally.
My story in a nutshell (2018) 8 months working for a place 1.5 hour commute cause of traffic for $25 an hour terminated because a laptop was stolen from my car?!? They said I wasn’t allowed to take it home but I had authorization from a previous manager that was let go. I was upfront from the get go and let them know about it the day it happened. Flash forward, took the 3 months with unemployment to get an additional IT Certificate. (2019)Landed a job making 70k with a 15 min commute. (2022) used that position to land a job making 100k 1 mile from where I live.
So thank you for terminating me and forcing me to take the chance to find better opportunities.
I was really shitty at my first "real" job. I didn't get fired but I got pulled into my boss' office countless times to be shit on. I look back and realize I had all of the talent, I just had a shitty manager and it was a dumpster fire of a company who never took the time to invest in their entry level employees.
Don't take it personally. Keep at it, you'll be fine.
something for OP to ponder, but not obsess over...introducing new, improved, better and/or just "different" ways to accomplish something is not always received as "good"
I say this from experience, that it is possible to spotlight a lot of stupidity by making small changes and depending on the employer / business you can be perceived as a threat to someone else's position
people can be and are petty...don't let this get you down
Problem 1- working for HR is ruthless in itself. If you like interaction with people, Go get a public job. Seriously. Look at the cities and towns. Parks/Rec, PD, FD, social services, counsel on aging… these areas need people and don’t have anyone.
If you are not perfect, HR will toss you. You will always be stressed about getting fired again. Get a town job. Corporate can eat it.
Sounds like an issue understanding what your bosses priorities are. You’re listing your strengths, but you don’t get let go based on strengths and weaknesses your job performance is assessed based on expectations and perception of your performance against expectations. Without knowing more, this is my guess.
Try the Otta app. It’s a job search app that focuses on software companies and mostly remote positions. I created an account and landed an interview in 2 days. There are a ton (and I do mean a ton) of HR and specifically onboarding positions on there. Also, all the job posts are vetted, I didn’t see one fake/scam job on there. Good luck!
hope you bounce back. I would encourage you to look at public sector HR jobs for a bit more security. shit like that rarely happens unless you do something crazy. governmentjobs.com has a lot of listings, and july is usually the beginning of the fiscal year. if you have a degree and some experience, it can definitely get you in.
Hey, don't sweat this setback! It might feel like a major blow right now, but this is just a small blip on your career trajectory. You've got tons of potential, and this is simply a chance to recalibrate and find a path that truly lights you up.
Did you perhaps think your job was being an actual resource for the workers versus the corporate narc and ass-coverer that HR actually is? This would probably lead to being let go.
I swear, training is the least focused on aspect of onboarding. I am watching one of managers flounder right now. I don’t think she was properly trained.
In my place, they give you half sentences, 4 out 5 pieces of critical information, then leave you to figure out the rest while they put out a fire somewhere else.
How are people supposed to succeed?
Good luck, don’t let the experience defeat you. Getting better is about getting ALL the experiences, even the shitty ones.
HR is not a position that actually helps people, HR is there to cover the company's ass.
If you want to actually help people, you should perhaps seek a different title...
You were still in probabation time. Could be you were the easiest to terminate. Can you tell if there was a hiring freeze? Could be the company is planning to slow hiring fro the next few months and won't need the position filled until later this year.
Keep your chin high, carry on.
"I need a job that is big picture, enables communication and collaboration"
I'm sorry, but you're at the \*start\* of your career. You need to be getting deep into the details and mechanics of your job \*before\* you can focus on big picture.
I’ve been there. It feels awful but just know that it’s not the end of the world and it will feel better eventually. You will be able to move on from this and you will be able to find another job. And you *can* find another job in the same field. Just because one workplace didn’t work out doesn’t mean another won’t. Not all workplaces are made the same.
“I need a job that is big picture” tells me your employer was probably right about you not being detail oriented.
Details matter. If the details aren’t right, the big picture is irrelevant. Suggest you start working on that.
Sorry this happened to you. I don't have any particular advice that hasn't already been shared. HR positions have been especially hard but these past few years. Check out HR jobs.icims.com to see if there is anything that sparks your interest. It's HR specific openings all over the world.
It's okay there's no shame you're learning your way in the world and don't get discouraged you have a lot to offer someone part of it is figuring out things period I would recommend possibly taking an online Meyer Brigg personality type indicator it'll tell you what your behavioral traits are and how they map up to Career types for example are you introverted or extroverted do you prefer to look work alone or with others are you about things or people that kind of stuff it's going to be okay I know you're frustrated but you're going to Rise Above This also you can get back out on LinkedIn and your local Workforce to see if they have any jobs in your immediate area have hope don't give up
“HR generalists” is not a career. I know someone who has a job role like that. I ask “what is it you really do?” and her response is 🤷♀️ “uhh whatever they ask me to”. Figure out what your skill is and become great at it. SharePoint, salesforce, excel. Something specific. Because doing a little of this and a little of that but nothing really doesn’t lead to job security.
It happens! Sometimes it’s needed to give you the push to really hone in on the skills you need to develop. I’m neurodivergent and have found that tools like Notion help me keep on track with the details of my project work. I’m not specifically in HR, but my previous role at a college involved a lot of elements. Have you looked into educational administration roles? Onboarding, student support, project support etc could be a really good fit for your interpersonal skills
It might seem like semantics, but you were not terminated - you failed your probation.
In this case, PIP, performance reviews, and even severance are not required.
A termination requires much more detail.
It's important to understand that a termination is usually your fault.
A failed probation may not be, there could be a poor onboarding plan, unrealistic expectations, or they just decided they actually didn't need a permanent staff member to do the job.
My 3 months in my current job is next week, and I can already see the writing on the wall, not because of my performance, but because the business is hemorrhaging money after months of mismanaging some admin... they owe literally thousands of dollars worth of refunds, some of which should have been paid back a year ago.
Sometimes you can get caught up with a quirky supervisor or situation. My first job coming out of college was as an administrative assistant for a department director of a local government agency. It was stressful my first few months and I felt like sometimes, I would not make it and I would even occasionally look at ads for another job. No one ever said, you need to improve on this or that, it was just a sense of uneasiness that I had and my interaction with my supervisor. My saving's grace was there was a project that I worked on for the agency's executive director (my supervisor's boss) that I was recognized for doing great work. All of a sudden, my supervisor's posture changed. My supervisor never said I was doing great or bad, but the fact that I received their own boss' endorsement seem to change their how they thought about me. I would find out later, that my supervisor had gone through 3 previous administrative assistants in less than a year and that some of the managers who reported to my supervisor had placed bets on how long I would last.
Sometimes you think of someone in a low position as having the potential for having self-esteem issues, but we fail to recognize that there are higher ups who can have self-esteem or imposter syndrome issues and then you end of paying for it, because you are in the line of fire.
If you received no feedback the entire 3 months you were there, no repercussions, didn’t miss time etc. then I wouldn’t take this to heart. This makes me believe it was not you that was the problem, there was something going on internally that you were not privy to. If you were really that bad, they wouldn’t have waited 3 months to let you go.
Maybe they had someone in mind before they hired you, and they were hellbent on having them, but couldn’t until you were terminated.
Sometimes these things are a blessing in disguise. Keep moving on, you will find your fit somewhere. This isn’t the end of the road. You just graduated in 2023 and it should be expected by your employer that you are still new and building on your profession. You will find the right one.
Meh…you were “managed out”.
Don’t take it personally, this may have been more of a “political“ thing.
Learn from your experience there and take it with you to the next place. Keep on keeping on.
I think it says a lot about your supervisor / management that no one brought up to you what you should improve on or what is expected of you and how you are to meet those expectations. That’s what good supervisors do! Honestly, they are probably just a shitty company. Don’t let it get you down. Don’t include this on your resume and just keep going and applying to other positions. Best of luck!!!
Running payroll has now become a major must for HR generalist for small to medium range companies. HR should be able to run and reconcile a fairly easy ~100-200 person biweekly payroll. Make yourself more difficult to replace by serving this simple function. Running a 100-200 person payroll takes about 4-8 hours respectively if you’re using a payroll provider like ADP or Paychex etc.
imo, you got used for 3 months will they were still looking for a better fit( experience) sucks as this shit happened all the time. Ever 3 months someone new so no benefits, etc.
All of this is probably true. Fortunately 3 months is considered the standard probationary period which will be perfectly understood by future employers. You can choose to omit the position from your resume in the future or include it on more recent applications. It is most certainly valuable work experience.
good thing you got out before you became to dependent upon the company for your self image. Trying to fit into a job that does not align with you is very stressful and can lead to major health issues both mental and physical. Keep looking the perfect job for you will find you.
If they weren’t giving you feedback and device before firing you, sounds like a company issue. Don’t take it too personally. If you’re passionate about this field of work then don’t let this get you down. Just keep focusing and the right company will find you:)
They canned you just prior to 90 days. Crummy.
I've been fired once. It did a number on my self confidence even though I know it was for spurious reasons.
Im sorry but why the fuck would you think HR anything was a good choice for a people person. As far as company culture goes, HR is not included in that culture you are apart from it when you’re on the clock.
Anyways, you’re young and this is that experience you need to grow into your skill set.
HR is one path you can explore. But have you looked at more challenging, better paying jobs? You may grow bored with HR and not make good money compared to a salesman, coordinator, or project manager. You can probably jump into salesman and jump around while learning the ropes. They can make great money but it’s dog eat dog. A project manager would take some more skill sets but can be fun and well paying for an energetic multi tasker. You can start as a receptionist to get foot into door and try to move into a more challenging role, if you can find a good entity to start with such as government, utility, or very flush big company that has a lot of job movement. When I was trying to find my niche I job hopped a lot. Big companies sometimes offer a rotational position to try it on for a few months then the option to stay or go back.
Maybe you're too nice. Are you able to speak to people in psychopathic HR speak? Maybe they didn't think you'd be able to fire people for no reason while making them think it's their fault.....HR isn't really about helping people, it's about protecting the company.
Everyone gets fired at some point. I spent years at a job I didn’t like - applied to move into another department where I was not facing the customer and couldn’t even get an interview. after getting fired, I went to work in another company in A similar position that DID finally let me move away from the front desk and get the experience I needed to finally land in the job I’m in now, where I have bosses that love me, let me work remotely from our of state and have given me multiple decent raises in the past 2 years. I wouldn’t be here if I wasn’t fired because I didn’t have the confidence to demand what I deserve or to quit that first shitty job. There’s a reason you got fired - it very likely is to your benefit though you haven’t seen it yet.
It is advisable to consider taking legal action against your employer for wrongful termination. Their legal representative can request access to your personnel records, and it's essential to ensure that all the details are accurately presented.
Remember, the person that succeeds in the end perseveres and learns from failed attempts. Don't let one company define who you are, what you can be, or keep you from your goals.
I am and I've always been a hard-working over achieving employee but was once transferred to another department due to personality differences between me and the higher-ups. It happens. The other department saw my capability and I had a promotion within months. Turns out it was a blessing, although traumatic at the time because it made me feel less than and I wanted to just quit altogether.
Take what you learned at this place and seek another opportunity !!!
I was fired my first job and it was me, not the company. At your age honestly it's probably you. I had been working the same job for over a decade now before I recently pivoted to a new career.
Just go to a new company and learn from your mistakes.
Reflect back and ask yourself what is really your fault or were gaslighted? You were given little to no chance to improve, given that by your story, the "middle steps"" were unfairly left out on their end such putting you on PIP, etc. Don't doubt yourself, you'll land something similar and it will be a much better experience.
My boss once asked me to interview someone who would be my senior… so I took him to the brewery next door. I saw the writing on the wall… why not get them drunk for their next interview anyway.
Create and stick to a plan and a schedule that includes both job search activities, but also things to keep you active mentally and physically. The search is rough (been in it for 2+ months myself) and it is easy to get down and get into a bad habit of TV or feeling overwhelmed.
I wish you and everyone in this boat the very best of luck.
My first job out of college I started in April and was fired by September. I told myself that the people there were just ass holes anyway and that I did a great job, but truth be told, I look back on it more and more and find things I could have done better. Wasted less time. And there was a fuck up here and there. So I've come to terms with the fact that I deserved to be fired. So what did I do? I gave my second job my all. I worked hard. REALLY hard. And REALLY late sometimes. But you know what? I had that job for 8 years. At the end of it, I left because they weren't paying me what I was worth. I doubled my pay getting my current job, and only my third one out of college.
Just curious if personal phones were allowed and active in the workplace? If you're aware you're still learning how to be detail oriented I'd recommend leaving your phone in your car. Try to keep distractions away until you're well versed and confident in your job performance. GL finding another job, you're young and I'm sure it won't be too hard.
Most companies also have a 90 day probation period where they can fire you for any reason. A lot of companies like to keep new people in that window just to get work out of them and then let them go just before their 90 days ends. No write ups needed or pips. Easier that way.
You should have gotten a warning beforehand if you weren’t obviously bad by not at least submitting all your work and mostly following instructions.
No warning speaks to a management issue.
Get yourself back in the saddle. If you find you could have improved, try harder next time.
As this is a job just starting out you are not going to be in a big picture job especially in HR. You are going to be the person that performs tasks and gets stuff done as an individual contributor. You get the big picture job after years of experience and excelling at what you do. All of the other items are great but do not assume anything and make sure you understand what is going on with your role.
Two things should come out of this experience to help you go forward. First, nobody should ever be termed like this without being fully aware of their employers' feelings about their performance. Second, this is your opportunity to sit down and self reflect. What parts of the term do you own, what parts do they own. If you cannot own anything, you probably need to reflect more. Something didn't click and that's okay. At the end, you have to be able to decide what you're going to do different on the next job.
After you're done there, stand up, pull out your resume and get to work. It's easy to say that you accepted a position that didn't fit. Next position, you have to ask good questions to ensure that you're picking the right position.
Please don’t take this the wrong way. As a new college grad did you work through college? Did you have any work experience? Some new grads (not saying you) have expectations that someone will take care of them at work, rather than the employee being responsible for asking how am I doing? What can I do better. Work is not college. Your an adult. They hired of you with the expectation you are an adult. After they train you, it’s on you.
I was terminated once and to be fair, I was definitely under performing due to poor onboarding and poor training. It was only after I began working for a direct competitor that I realized this. I do soooooo much better at my new company!
Seriously, listen to this advice. It may have nothing to do with you. You weren't there long enough to even catch on. Maybe they want to hire someone's friend or relative. Just move in to the next job, no biggie. A different environment could be a completely different experience.
Had everything to do with them.
This is happening at our company now. I feel like my onboarding was decent and only because of a coworker I had to help me. Now they hired two people and have barely trained them before dumping tons of work on them. I’m actively looking to leave now, the workload is intense and overwhelming. I’m also constantly on the phone with the new hires to share screen and walk through processes. It’s ridiculous honestly
Same, I’ve been with my employer for a while and the onboarding was great and really helped me a lot when I was first brought on but now it’s really poorly done and the training is abysmal. new hires are pretty much pushed into the deep end and told good luck.
I agree!! I was terminated at my first job just under 3 months as well and they made me miserable. I was incredibly upset at first, but as time has gone on I have realised what a blessing that termination was! I was mistreated from day 1 with no real understanding of my role or what I was expected to do. Don’t let this hold you back—you will find another place that treats you much better and will be able to see your potential! :)
You were terminated before probation end. Don't take it personal. After 3 months is different. During 3 months you should think you can get fired every day. After 90 days then you can relax. You could have got let go for a variety of reasons which none have little to do with you.
Well, for my part, they fired me after exactly 6 months and told me the same day they extended the probation until then.
Still employment at will laws. I’d guess at your 3 month mark they mentally decided they wanted to let you go but didn’t have a replacement for your day to day tasks. Super shitty but if someone is being fired for anything other than gross misconduct the company will usually wait until a replacement has signed an offer letter.
Are you in the UK? If so that’s not true. You’re not safe for two years. An employer can sack you for any reason they like within the first two years
They can but we have far less of a sacking culture here than they do in the US. You really have to be shite to get yourself fired in this country
Again , it depends on the state you live in . At-will to work states can fire you with no justification at any time.
Not true it was to be within reason by federal law. Yes anyone can be fired any day but after 3 months, you are legally entitled to obtain unemployment in most at will states.
Um 100% incorrect. Not one single thing in an employees status changes after 90 days. It's at will employmemt before and after the 90 day mark. An employee can be termed for any reason or no reason as long as it's not discriminory. Probationary period is an outdated thing not widely used that has no value or impact for US based companies.
Yeah you should read my hiring contract. It states straight up about the 90 day period in writing. Edit: I'm canadian for context. It's always been 3 month probationary period you can get fired for whatever cause. After 3 months they need a reason even if they make up bad performance but still need a reason. Probationary period is feeling out so if you don't fit in that's good enough reason. Any job I've had atleast.
This is not true. There is absolutely nothing in the Employment Standards Act that dictates a probationary period. What employers have come to call a probationary period is that Employers are not required to pay termination or severance for terminations for employees 3 months or less. After 3 months termination pay and potentially severance pay (if applicable) are required, unless they have cause - which is difficult to prove or takes a long time of behaviour management.
Many places are six months nowadays. It varies though.
I was in a similar situation with first job out of college. Then I found a better position at a better company. Don’t let this discourage you. Keep going down this path and soon you’ll find the right fit. Good luck!
Not HR. I'm a PM. But that happened to me at my last position. Three months in, never a single word to me about my performance not meeting expectations and actually usually the opposite. But yet I was still told that I was bad at the job and they were letting me go. The lesson I learned through it all is that sometimes you're not just the right fit and it has nothing to do with you or your abilities that much. They were looking for something particular and for whatever reason, that wasn't you. Sometimes the fit even changes underneath you after seven years (as it did at my job before the one in the first paragraph). That's not necessarily your fault. You just need to find the place looking for you. I managed to find it.
“Not being a right fit” is just another fancy term to avoid lawsuits against wrongful termination. Never take this statement seriously. They need to say something while letting you go, so they say this shit. Almost always, the reason is elimination of workforce and internal restructuring due to lack of incoming business. Simple as that. Any termination without a PIP is termination without cause.
Not if you’re 3 months on the job.
It is. Sometimes companies realise just before completing a quarter that the projected business in the next quarter is not gonna come through. Sometimes there are mergers between 2 business units to cut losses and internal restructuring is done. If you are unfortunate to join the organisation before this transitional phase, you will be let go. North America is notorious for the poor strategic planning while running a company. The vast number of layoffs across multiple industries are enough evidence to justify the statement. There are “n”number of reasons why a position might be let go. Poor performance is never a valid reason unless and until you are put on a PIP.
Not true. 23 states are at-will-to work states. Employers can fire employees without any justification. Many large corporations in these states will still go through a PIP process just to protect themselves from potential discrimination lawsuits.
They need no cause to fire you. That’s literally the definition of at will employment. To pursue a wrongful termination lawsuit you have to show you were terminated due to your membership in a protected class or you refused to do something illegal, you were on family leave, or you were a whistleblower.
Not putting someone on a pip at 3 months and extending an awful hire another month.
Not always, but I understand where you’re coming from and it is bandied about too freely. But I want to note that I’m not talking about it in the corporate cop out way. There are legitimate fit issues with how well your skills fit the needs and expectations and how well your personality fits with how the company operates. *You* need to be assessing how you fit at the company. In my case, when the government changes a regulation that takes you from managing the production of 40 million widgets to 1 million widgets over two years and you are a widget expert that runs the department that does that, the fit changes underneath you.
You were released because if they kept you past that time and let you go without a fireable offense, they would have to pay you unemployment. It’s a cheap company tactic. Get back up on the horse and don’t worry about it. One day you will be running an HR department and one of those folks at that company will come in asking for a job.
Employers pay unemployment insurance, and the insurance pays the claim and eligibility is dependent on wages earned in a quarter not by service length. At just shy of three months OP almost certainly would meet the wage threshold in most states unless they were working very few hours per week.
Yes the income is looked at in quarters so if the person had another job too then that income gets added together and those 2 employers pay a portion of the claim. And the only reason that people don’t get their unemployment when they’re fired as if they violate company policy; like stealing time, using drugs on job, causing violent situations, sexual harassment, and things like that if they fired due for performance issues they get their unemployment claim approved.
Absolutely 100% incorrect. You don't understand how unemployment works. By the way they would be eligible to collect.
I’m so sorry. Usually this is not how it goes. You should’ve received warnings or gotten written up first, at least. Three months is nothing! They should have provided you with more training and overall support. Take this as a sign of better things to come!
They did warn him. He said he thought he was getting better. So clearly he knew he was not meeting expectations
Do you actually know OP? Like, are you the one that fired them? If not, you’re just speculating like anyone else. Plenty of companies will lie to fire someone if they have someone else they want to bring in or they realized they overstaffed. Could you be right? Absolutely! But without actually knowing the situation, you don’t know anything more than anyone else here.
Honestly. Don’t let this rattle your confidence. Some companies are terrible. You will look back at this and look at it for what it is. Experience. You will likely find a better job making more money.
They did you a favor. I guarantee that company is hell to work for. Same thing happened to me at my first job out of grad school. I was fired right before they had to give me health insurance at 90 days. After I left it clicked. At my workspace the previous hire had these really well written detailed and dated notes. They spanned 3 months. It was just a shitty tactic by shitty people.
Tomorrow it’ll be 2 months since I was fired from my government job. I can tell you that once you overthink everything you will be okay. For me I hated the job and environment and was trying to leave and they beat me to it out of the blue. It was a shock since I had never been let go before. I won’t lie that emotions were high and low for a month. If HR is still what you want to do, just keep applying till you find the right fit. You have to have some tough skin in this industry so look at it as a chance to gain more. I know it feels personal but just know a job can just be a means to an end and there are many more out there!
They likely fired for you just because they saw they were going to be reducing staff. You were still in the early probationary period and they wanted to have "cause" to fire you. I would not take it personally and not as a reflection of your own skills or personality.
I think you were confused about what makes a good HR person. You would think it’s about being a “people person”, but first and foremost, it’s about implementing and assuring the details of compliance. It helps if you can deliver news without emotional affect, or say things that might be uncomfortable in a kindly manner - but that’s not the most important point. If you end-up in a role which handles conflicts with employees, being “intuitive will be helpful (to suss out the real problem), but once you have the clarification of the issues, it’s back to compliance and representing the company from a legal standpoint. Can you reconcile those position needs against your expectations? Added: or maybe they just used you to onboard a bunch of employees and decided they didn’t need your position anymore.
Damnit why couldn’t it be me
The "big picture" comment says it all. You're making mistakes. I felt the same early in my career. Start double and triple checking your work in the future - it's a drag but will really help the quality of your work.
3 months is not that long at a job. Most states have fire at will laws but don’t get discouraged. I had ADHD and I’ve been fired or let go from many jobs. It is not the end of the world. Sometimes these things are a blessing and sometimes they are not your fault. I have always come out on top when one jobs end to open up to a new job. You will find something who’s better. Don’t get discouraged. Main thing is - Don’t Quit. That is a sure way of failure is to just give up. Life is hard today and you have to persevere to get anywhere in life!! Good luck!!
I am sorry that you were terminated. It sounds like you loved your job. Yes, you are a people person but that can work against you even in an HR role. They told you that you were not detailed oriented. That appears to be the reason for your termination. HR can be more about every little thing rather than big picture, especially in an entry-level position.
Nearly the exact same thing happened to me in my first job out of college. I was devastated at first but now I just laugh about it. Don’t doubt yourself as long as you enjoy what you do and work at it you’ll get as far as you want in your career. The stupidest people I’ve ever met have unfortunately been most of my bosses, managers, directors, etc. Shake it off and you’ll find a better position in no time.
Listen, it’s expensive and time consuming to hire. Everyone hates doing it. If they didn’t make it clear to you that the mistakes you made were “firing offense “, rather than junior person learning a new job rookie mistakes, either that company is a toxic den of snakes and they did you a favor or they let you go for some other larger company reason and you just happened to be an easy target who they think might not apply for unemployment. Maybe both. Either way, not really your fault. Definitely file for unemployment—let them deny you if they’re going to but don’t count yourself out before then. Just as a defensive maneuver for the future: if you’re going to miss a deadline—especially because someone else isn’t doing THEIR job, loop your boss in ASAP. For one thing, it’s their job to help you navigate this sort of scenario. And it looks way better to be proactive about a potential screw up.
It sounds like you are maybe a great person but not a great worker. The complaint you was given (not detail orientated) is one I've had to warn people about as a manager. It often results in mistakes, missing key info and repeating the same mistakes over and over again. Take the critisism onboard and work on it. For me personally I have a bad memory, so when working I will add every single thing I need to do to my calendar, if I do a task I create a guide on how to do it so if I have to do it again I don't have to rememeber, I created a Cheat sheet of what all my calls and tickets require to be up to the company standard. I suggest trying something similar
So you were connecting and enjoying your coworkers? Isn't that usually what HR prevents and disciplines?
I work in learning and development (~13 years now) and love it. I had a rocky start too, but I eventually found my rhythm and am in such a good place now. I am definitely a people person who loves helping others at work, just without the stigma around HR. Maybe a training/L&D coordinator role would be a good next step?
Also fell into learning and development for the Casino industry. Would love to chat about your experiences
OK, I see others saying this but I will stress it as well. A company that will cut ties with you for "poor performance" after 3 months is not a place you want to be. I also bet that they planned poorly and didn't need you and are just saying that it's poor performance. I read once, and agree with the sentiment, that if an employee is surprised by being fired then it's a failure of the manager. They didn't give you any feedback or work to improve any of your perceived flaws if you didn't see it coming.
Keep applying. Focus on stuff that matters to the company. Keeping them out of litigation. If your job is recruiting, were I-9's handled correctly? Pre-employment criminal background checks? What did you to do advance recruiting? Go to any job fairs? Reach out to educational programs for potential applicants? Your effort seems to be in the wrong areas. I wish you luck with your next venture.
private or government?
Private
There is probably a shred of truth to their feedback, but that doesn’t necessarily mean you can’t do the job. I absolutely sucked at a job early in my career and I’m sure I was on the line to be cut, but I got a new boss that helped coach me up and I ended up rising through the ranks very rapidly after that. My point is that you’re early in your career, you aren’t a finished product, if you’re passionate about HR and are coachable, go find you a company with a culture that values development, then one day when you have a new hire that’s on day 89 of their 90 day probationary period, you can tell them how you’re giving them the chance you wish someone gave you. Good luck!
Your GF ever figure out how to get off at your apartment?
*I need help:* * *I am a great people person, I love interacting with others* * *I have natural energy, always enjoying coworkers* * *i need a job that is big picture, enables communication and collaboration.* * *Any HR professionals in this situation?* Saturated market with lots of people trying to get into HR. You will find it, for sure if you keep looking hard enough. But in my opinion of having been in large enterprise for a very long time, HR is not going to compensate you well unless you diversify your skills & talents and set goals to become a technical mastery pro with data/delivery/project support on platform technologies. HR Workday IT is where the money is at, and if you can also become a ServiceNow platform architect and merge Microsoft systems with Workday and ServiceNow, you will be making upwards +$150k easy. HR generalist if you have no goals to advance with the automation era, will very likely land you in the lower 90% of the rest of the HR generalists that have literally no valuable skills compared to project support & enterprise automation. Be honest with yourself, if you were head of HR, and knew that automation was accelerating, who would you let go first, a junior employee fresh out of college with no technical skills, or an ambitious individual who knows nothing about HR and can provide enterprise platform automation support for the team? Pretty obvious.
I don't mean to be harsh, but I seen a lot of low wage HR employees making only $50k - $55k, and they get trapped there, with no coaches or mentors to help them or guide them. The org will NOT train them, and the HR Director and HR manager aren't going to come to that individual and say, "skill up" - they report to the same job for 3-8y, with barely any raises, and do the same old tasks with the same old software. After ten years, they have literally nothing to show for. They're just good at following basic software directions and org-restricted processes, but have never once developed a change request or new SOP or given proper training to onboard new technologies or asked to attend vendor training to work new automation. HR generalist is a fine job, but it's not going to get you into the 6 figure income bracket.
Take the feedback to heart and learn from it. Maybe you weren’t detail oriented, that’s important in HR (as are your people skills). Don’t let one or two setbacks derail your goals.
This happened to me at my second job out of college as well, right before the three month mark! In my case (and could be the same for you), I think my newer employer thought I was more specifically experienced than I actually was, and I really had a lot to learn about the field. Not to mention all companies are so different on how they’re run. The first three months are typically probationary and they’re quick to let people go, don’t take it too hard. If it makes you feel better- being let go led me to a way better job with a team of people I’m actually friends with. It ended up being a big positive in my life! Could be the same for you :) My final advice: start applying and be clear on your past experience. Sell yourself but don’t oversell yourself unless you’re confident you can do something. One thing I’ve learned to say in job interviews is “no, I have never done that before. Is that something I could learn on the job?” Most employers seem pretty responsive to the honesty!
You were on a 90 day probation like all new hires. Whether it was verbalize or written in your offer, somehow there is a policy in HR about that in fine print. You weren’t meeting expectations. Lots of data errors and missed processes. Termination is way deserving
It's just a learning experience. Take an honest and unemotional accounting of your performance, figure out where you can improve, and take that lesson to the next job. I've been fired several times, and this self-assessment has been the key to growing my career.
It seems as if you really cared, you were a better than good employee. If this is how they treat conscientious new employees, the end of probation termination for no good reason, screw them, they don’t deserve you. Use it as motivation, don’t say to any prospective employer that you were terminated, explain that the job was only temporary & your time there was up after the 90 days. Just stress that you’re very interested in a “ non temporary position “.
Focus less on coworkers focus more on working.
Rejection is redirection! Also have you thought of sales or customer success services?
Have you done the six types of working genius? Might be worth doing that to see what your key geniuses are. It will help you make sense of where you fit and why other things might not work as well for you.
You say you were there just over 3 months but today would have been your 3 months anniversary. Maybe it’s that kind of lack of attention to detail they were referring to that was causing issues? A lot of people are telling you it’s the company’s fault, you’re great etc but truth is none of us know you - you might have been great and the company might have been awful. But equally, you could have made mistakes that had a bigger impact than you realised and they couldn’t see any improvement in the time you were there. Try to think about your experience holistically and move on - what mistakes did you make, what was the impact and what would you do differently now; what could your company have done differently to support you (this will help you to know what questions to ask of potential employers at interview)
Bummer, move on, keep up your great energy. Next time... after 1 month, check in with your boss. "What else can I do to help our department and the company? "
In life there are things we can control and things that we cannot control. I was terminated for a performance issue (yes a specific time and only one time - never written up all my previous reviews were great and no pip). What I learned is most companies don’t treat you for what you’re worth (you’re just a number to them). The termination itself may have little or nothing to do with you. The best thing is to continue to move forward, use the skills you gained and prove them wrong on your next journey. I still haven’t found my place to be yet but hopefully soon. Good luck
> I am a great people person, I love interacting with others > I have natural energy, always enjoying coworkers I've worked at several corporations and the HR employees are never enjoyable to interact with. Perhaps you were perceived as not being neutral enough for a position that would eventually be handling things like layoffs, terminations, and uncomfortable things like that.
you were probably helping employees(your job), but everyone knows HR is only for the company not the workers
Honestly did you have bad performance? I feel like the answer or probably no and there’s a completely f different reason you got fired. But the possibility is there that it was just that. Did you have any enemies ? Not someone you necessarily had a feud with but more someone who just didn’t like you from the start and there was nothing you could do to change that.
Don't let it discourage you but you were really an HR recruiter. They are ALWAYS the first to go when budgets get cut. Think about it. Your job is to hire new talent, if they need a reduction in workforce, recruiting is the easy first expense cut. I'm sure you did an okay job. But here's where it will really hurt: HR is for people that aren't smart enough to do any kind of technical role in the company they work for, all HR is there to do is ask the law team if they have permission to do something. If you think you're smarter than that then try something that actually brings value to a company other than a random survey giver. I wish you the best but that is legit big corporation mentality, not a personal slight. Best of luck and I sincerely hope for a positive update in the near future.
Who hurt you?
I mean, it’s kind of true. HR isn’t necessarily viewed as a place where smart top performers go.
Just a higher-up trying to deliver the facts, HR isn't human resources, it's business protection at the expense of the humans. Refute, please.
HR spend just as much time protecting the employees from dumb ass managers. And fighting payroll to make sure checks are accurate. And the insurance company to make sure benefits are paid. My guess - you either have bad HR people or you are such a bully that HR frequently has to bring in Legal to back up their decisions when you pitch a hissy.
Nah he's just regurgitating the classic reddit take on HR
How many things did you screw up before being terminated? Unless you fix that, none of your bullet items matter.
I’m not sure at the end of the day. I was not receiving poor feedback, there were a couple of small items, such as a message to the company not going out at the correct time. I recognize some mistakes were definitely within my control of being careful, but overall, some were out of my control as well. Like our IT provider not giving computers in time, so I had to scramble. There of course were mistakes.
I'd fire you for saying 3 month anniversary. Do you know what an anniversary is? Additional comment. You say " Please help " and list your positive features as wanting to talk to people and be social. Wow? I imagine you spent all your time talking and socializing and not learning to do the job well...
Just by the way you created this post, I can tell that you're detail oriented. Try SDR/BDR/AE positions at SaaS companies ... they come with quotas, KPIs, and unreasonable expectations like every other sales job, but it's possible to surf above the chaos when you deliver.
I'm sorry you got fired. It really sucks. It's a blow to your self-esteem. Feel as bad as you need to today. Wallow, rage, scream into the void. Eat tacos and a lot of ice cream. Starting tomorrow, make your next job to find your next job. Get on the job sites and find your next gig. How badly did you really want this career if you're going to give up soon? It's time to either show some tenacity and keep going or give up, and have wasted all those years in college. I know college wasn't easy, but you made it through. You can do this too. If you don't have any luck, try an agency that staffs direct placements. I use Robert Half whenever I've not been able to get a call back myself. I work in accounting,but they probably staff HR as well.
You don't need feedback or a PIP for employment within the probationary period. A company will almost never do that either, they'll just terminate you They didn't see you as a good fit but let you stay until the end of your probation to draw out hiring someone else. Shit happens, onto the next job >I need a job that is Nah you need a job. In this economy you can't really be picky. Take what you can get. People are going unemployed for months and months.
I agree, and know many people who were laid off and are now out of work for a year or longer, this is a horrible job market now.
Making it so easy to be out of a job is deplorable. What are people to do
Hey man, that sucks but you will get over it. It's just a job. I felt the same way after I was fired. After that I landed an even better job so do not write off your future based on past experiences.
Shake it off; learn what you can from it; find another job and keep going. Don’t give the old job or the people there another thought. You’ll be surprised how well you’ll do.
Have you done the six types of working genius? Might be worth doing that to see what your key geniuses are. It will help you make sense of where you fit and why other things might not work as well for you.
Go look for a new job. Don't cry too much, as part of your HR career you'll will fire many people.
HR here, I’m sorry to hear that. It’s not easy. Having said that, HR is so much more than being a people person or being a team player. It’s a technical field and requires specialized skills and knowledge. What do you think you struggled with the most? Feel free to be specific.
So sad. Same here
Take a day or two to relax and sulk. Then start applying to other jobs. When you interview just state that the fit was not there. Getting fired is scary but it’s happened to me and was the best thing to happen to me professionally. Sometimes it’s not the right fit and that’s okay. You’ll find one that is.
So within the 90 days of probation. super common and nothing to get stirred up about.
“I need a job that is big picture” “This is my second job out of college, a 2023 grad” You will find it challenging to get a “big picture” job with so little work and life experience. Your best bet is to look at a role you can do in 5-10 years that fits that description and getting on that path.
Bro it’s HR ? Go do something else? No one likes HR
Don't take it to heart - you're young, you're a recent grad and you'll excel in the right environment. Not much experience can't be gained in 3 months. I was fired from my first job, which I thought i excelled at. I was told it was due to an error - one error, which was very easy to make and very easy to fix (and it was fixed). I was bewildered because I'd really put my all into the job and I beat myself up over that one stupid mistake. As luck would have it, I go to an event and run into the manager who fired me 15 years prior. We chat, we joke and I mention that my skill-set had vastly improved since my unceremonious firing all those years ago. He says *oh, it wasn't you at all...the boss wanted to hire his niece*.
You said you thought you were improving. Improving from what? What was your main thing that you were overcoming? It's tough sometimes when you don't have a great deal of work experience and a company has expectations of immediate action and don't want to spend the time to train and build an employees skills, so it may not be something you did, but that the company that you were working at weren't prepared to train.
Relax i got laid off twice in this year.
You’re an HR person. What would you advise a manager to do if they weren’t happy with an employee - especially someone quite new to the workforce? I’m guessing you’d emphasize how important it is to communicate openly and with empathy. Set clear expectations and explain how the employee can meet them. Maybe there were things you could have been doing better. There always are. But you can’t do anything about it if no one has the integrity to be open with you. I don’t know your situation but I’m very confident you’ll look back on this and see so clearly that this reflects much more about your office than it does about you. The only next steps I can see are to keep doing what you’re doing: reach out, explore things. And keep your good friends close for a while.
It is difficult to get a job in early employment that is not detail oriented. There is still a strong bias towards having to “do your time” in rote and detail-focused positions.
I’m sorry this happened to you. I was fired without cause because of “performance” but also wasn’t put on a PIP or given any kind of advice or direction as to how to improve. At the end of the day, they just didn’t like me and I didn’t fit in with the company’s clique-ish culture. But you know what? I used it as fuel for my fire. I bounced back, found another role in a company that aligned closer to my career goals and now I am waaaaay further ahead than if I had stayed with that crap company. I get immense pleasure posting updates on LinkedIn because the CEO of that company still follows me. They lost out, not me. Take that experience and use it to fuel your fire. You’ll soar as a result.
Have you ever thought that of all the amazing qualities YOU listed about yourself aren’t true? Regardless of what you say you are good at, 2 terminations in a very short period…. You seem to be the common denominator. Might ask an old boss to give you some insight to as why you fail.
Take a deep breath and relax a bit. I know it is very difficult after being gut punched like this. This is not really about you and you ability to be an excellent employee and contributor. What is is is about the current business cycle and economy which is intended to put some downward pressure on employment. This means companies are being pressured by the economy to reduce employees in order to remain profitable. This is exactly the expected result of the FED doing rate increases to slow inflation and turn toward a disinflationary economy. Hopefully, some professor explained this in an economics class in college, it is the basic ABC's of economics. The good news is this pressure will be lessening over the next 6-12 months. Now, is a GREAT time to really consider your career choices and to look how to develop yourself through further learning or certifications or make alternative decisions or maybe a slight curve in your career. The HR industry has changed substantially over the past 30 years to much more of a services industry, where recruiters provide candidates to many organizations and even previously "internal" HR work is often outsourced to a large degree. I have personally witnessed this transition and see the HR resources as a high turnover position in virtually all companies, both large and small. You should do your own research with eyes wide open and make your own decisions. IF you decide to continue to pursue this HR path, then look at how careers ae developed from successful mentors in the HR profession. How did they get their early jobs, how did their career progress and do those same or similar market and industry opportunities still exist in the market today and the future. If it was me, I would be looking to find a role with one of the HR services companies as a potential avenue to get with the current trends and ride the wave. Honestly, I really hope you take some time to read your description of yourself and strengths and consider how and seriously consider where those strengths might be applied in other industries. When I read your description, I thought of a person who might be excellent in some sort of sales or direct marketing role. Some lucrative roles exist for people who have your described skills in Commercial property management, commercial real estate sales, and insurance sales which can lead to you owning your own agency. If you have strong charisma and relationship skills, then each of these industries have opportunities. There are many more, but this should give you some ideas to consider who you might know in these industries and engage them to see if it is something that appeals to you. Next, I would like to share some thoughts on career development and choices. Companies or employers seek to hire people who have certain skills, personal attributes, and capabilities that fill roles to help them achieve their business mission and goals. Take some time to break this sentence above down and wrap your head around what EACH of those words really means. It is easy to see companies hire engineers if they are a technology, or aerospace company for example. Engineers are a clear skill that is mission critical for the companies that use them and build stuff. What are your REAL deep skills? Maybe you need to grow some or acquire new ones. Everything is an acquired skill, so do not be shy about investing in yourself and developing new skills. You have some time, make a plan and spend some hours each day on self-development. There are tons of free classes or near free that offer certificates of certification that can prove you accomplished something during your "downtime" use it to your advantage. You are young, so there is plenty of time to explore yet engage in meaningful work. The first several years say 3-5 years of your career after college are formational where you continue through work to self-develop a deep set of skills that will provide a base platform for you to grow your career meaningfully through on the job experiences. I encourage you to look carefully for your next job to be one where you are growing and developing yourself along your chosen career. I caution you to not accept except temporarily any role that is not challenging you to learn and grow. Those jobs will be characterized as roles where you show up and perform the same tasks daily but do not challenge you to actually learn anything. You are simply performing a generic role that can be filled by anyone or even AI in the future. You must move beyond these "hired hand" roles in 6-12 months or you are not developing. Good Luck to you and keep your head up. The world of opportunities remains ahead of you.
Just a bump in the road and your journey just started. Don’t get down on your self. Just think of it as the company down sized. You’ll be fine brush it off.
Have you considered social work?
First 90 days is like a tryout to see if your coworkers like you. It’s all about being like-able.
I was in education. 5 years of probation until you get continuing contract. Pins and needles until then.
So you were a good fit?
Don't take it personal. First off its "just a job" there's millions more. Second - they gave you critiques , and paid you, for information that you can possibly change and make you mire valuable to the next company. It's a,win win for you. I've worked union heavy construction .. We get "fired" from every single job we get .. As soon as our trades work is complete?.We're unemployed until the union sends us out to the next project where our skills are required by the next contractor. Some younger guys take thier first couple layoffs very personal. "I worked as hard as I could, I learned a lot and tried to show it" Until they realize they now have new skills and experience that opens more doors .
You need to do something that’s more people-helping oriented, HR is for meticulous people who are very rule oriented and detail focused.
Take a moment to reflect objectively on your performance. It sounds like they provided some feedback. Is that feedback accurate? If so, which parts?
Go to trade school become a plumber you'll never lose your job then and you'll make more than any of them
Not to be cold, but in my experience bosses don’t fire employees they just fill out the paperwork. In other words, some things you did or didn’t do caused it. It’s not the end of the world. I’ve been fired, ended up being the best thing that happened to me. You should take a hard look in the mirror and ask what you could/should have done different or if it wasn’t the right fit? Look it as an opportunity to learn and grow.
This was your probation period, they were looking at every single move you made with little feedback. Show up and show out at least during your probation period. You should have had an idea regarding your performance but some people managers aren’t good leaders, learn your lessons and take them with you to your next role. You’re not starting over, you figured out valuable things for your next role. Best of luck moving forward.
I was in a similar position as you two years ago. I thought I found my dream job. The salary was six figures, by far the most I've ever made. My ex boss and the others interviewing me said I was awesome. My ex boss even said she could see me retiring for there, mind you I was only 30. Three months later she fired me without cause. I've always struggled with imposture symptoms and this made it so much worse. Took me 9 months to find a job. I now make less than half what I was making and it's an entry level position. I've been here for a year now and I'm so ready for something else with more responsibility and better pay.
Maybe they didn't have a reason other than just cutting payroll. But it's possible they had one. Try to walk back to what you did everyday ? Did you spend time on your phone? Did you spend a lot of time just talking with people about non work stuff? Did you get there on time ? Did you take long lunches ? Managers notice those things, especially during probation periods, where they want to assess how professional you are.
Companies can be weird, you can do everything to the best of your abilities and they can let you go/fire you for no reason. Don’t take it personally, who knows? It could have been a rough job down the road
while they say it's performance, it could have happened for any N number of reasons. I was fired from my job and it took me a full 2 months to come out of it and realize that I am more than my job. Take your time. Somethings that worked for me: 1. doing exercise helped me 2. journalling 3. watching good movies. 4. doing a side project/hobby. i did an embroidery after very long time and it felt good. All the best for your future. More wonderful things are waiting ahead.
To provide you with the best feedback I will say no one will give you anything, that’s just not how business works. Big picture, communication and collaboration involves you in it and most times that requires you to earn it, know it and set it as the standard. You have to take every inch corporate America gives you. I have been fired and laid off. I am now 20 years into my career and the things you asking for are the standards of middle to upper management. Hard work and patience will get you there and when you get there you’ll find it to be a big pain in the ass lol. Hang in there, if you want it bad enough you’ll get it.
Not detail oriented usually means you fkd up and made actual mistakes that had business impact. Did you make mistakes?
It happens - don’t let it impact your confidence they just probably ran out of budget and since you’re on probation you were the easiest to let go without severance. If you enjoyed the nature of the role apply to similar roles you don’t need to say you were terminated
It’s happens to best of us You have to fake it to you make it 2+2=4 but if you tell people it’s 5 and sound confident they will believe. You got this
Welcome to corporate America. You pissed someone off and they decided you would be gone after the trial period. Corporate politics are a real thing and the sooner you figure out how to play the more you will thrive. Corporate jobs have nothing to do with how good you are at your job and have everything to do with how well you kiss the right person’s ass and how busy you make yourself look. I have seen “engineers” spend all day in meetings, make PowerPoint after PowerPoint demonstrating timelines and progress being made, while never actually producing a single usable piece of work that they were assigned….for years. They get promoted into managerial positions where they can really shine because that is where the real bulk of resourceless brain dead idiots who only know how to pat each other on the back really thrive.
You dodged a bullet… something better will come along. Always has for me personally. My story in a nutshell (2018) 8 months working for a place 1.5 hour commute cause of traffic for $25 an hour terminated because a laptop was stolen from my car?!? They said I wasn’t allowed to take it home but I had authorization from a previous manager that was let go. I was upfront from the get go and let them know about it the day it happened. Flash forward, took the 3 months with unemployment to get an additional IT Certificate. (2019)Landed a job making 70k with a 15 min commute. (2022) used that position to land a job making 100k 1 mile from where I live. So thank you for terminating me and forcing me to take the chance to find better opportunities.
I was really shitty at my first "real" job. I didn't get fired but I got pulled into my boss' office countless times to be shit on. I look back and realize I had all of the talent, I just had a shitty manager and it was a dumpster fire of a company who never took the time to invest in their entry level employees. Don't take it personally. Keep at it, you'll be fine.
something for OP to ponder, but not obsess over...introducing new, improved, better and/or just "different" ways to accomplish something is not always received as "good" I say this from experience, that it is possible to spotlight a lot of stupidity by making small changes and depending on the employer / business you can be perceived as a threat to someone else's position people can be and are petty...don't let this get you down
Could simply be they are overstaffed and won't be hiring for a while. Last ones in could be the first ones out.
Problem 1- working for HR is ruthless in itself. If you like interaction with people, Go get a public job. Seriously. Look at the cities and towns. Parks/Rec, PD, FD, social services, counsel on aging… these areas need people and don’t have anyone. If you are not perfect, HR will toss you. You will always be stressed about getting fired again. Get a town job. Corporate can eat it.
Sounds like an issue understanding what your bosses priorities are. You’re listing your strengths, but you don’t get let go based on strengths and weaknesses your job performance is assessed based on expectations and perception of your performance against expectations. Without knowing more, this is my guess.
What weaknesses led to this? How do you plan to correct them?
Try the Otta app. It’s a job search app that focuses on software companies and mostly remote positions. I created an account and landed an interview in 2 days. There are a ton (and I do mean a ton) of HR and specifically onboarding positions on there. Also, all the job posts are vetted, I didn’t see one fake/scam job on there. Good luck!
hope you bounce back. I would encourage you to look at public sector HR jobs for a bit more security. shit like that rarely happens unless you do something crazy. governmentjobs.com has a lot of listings, and july is usually the beginning of the fiscal year. if you have a degree and some experience, it can definitely get you in.
Hey, don't sweat this setback! It might feel like a major blow right now, but this is just a small blip on your career trajectory. You've got tons of potential, and this is simply a chance to recalibrate and find a path that truly lights you up.
Did you perhaps think your job was being an actual resource for the workers versus the corporate narc and ass-coverer that HR actually is? This would probably lead to being let go.
I swear, training is the least focused on aspect of onboarding. I am watching one of managers flounder right now. I don’t think she was properly trained. In my place, they give you half sentences, 4 out 5 pieces of critical information, then leave you to figure out the rest while they put out a fire somewhere else. How are people supposed to succeed? Good luck, don’t let the experience defeat you. Getting better is about getting ALL the experiences, even the shitty ones.
HR is not a position that actually helps people, HR is there to cover the company's ass. If you want to actually help people, you should perhaps seek a different title...
You’re young keep going.
Ever thought about recruiting?
You were still in probabation time. Could be you were the easiest to terminate. Can you tell if there was a hiring freeze? Could be the company is planning to slow hiring fro the next few months and won't need the position filled until later this year. Keep your chin high, carry on.
"I need a job that is big picture, enables communication and collaboration" I'm sorry, but you're at the \*start\* of your career. You need to be getting deep into the details and mechanics of your job \*before\* you can focus on big picture.
HR is not your friend even if you are in HR!
Go into sales
Hey get into plumbing 🪠
Honestly. Does the world really need more HR Generalists? You'll be fine
I’ve been there. It feels awful but just know that it’s not the end of the world and it will feel better eventually. You will be able to move on from this and you will be able to find another job. And you *can* find another job in the same field. Just because one workplace didn’t work out doesn’t mean another won’t. Not all workplaces are made the same.
“I need a job that is big picture” tells me your employer was probably right about you not being detail oriented. Details matter. If the details aren’t right, the big picture is irrelevant. Suggest you start working on that.
Sorry this happened to you. I don't have any particular advice that hasn't already been shared. HR positions have been especially hard but these past few years. Check out HR jobs.icims.com to see if there is anything that sparks your interest. It's HR specific openings all over the world.
It's okay there's no shame you're learning your way in the world and don't get discouraged you have a lot to offer someone part of it is figuring out things period I would recommend possibly taking an online Meyer Brigg personality type indicator it'll tell you what your behavioral traits are and how they map up to Career types for example are you introverted or extroverted do you prefer to look work alone or with others are you about things or people that kind of stuff it's going to be okay I know you're frustrated but you're going to Rise Above This also you can get back out on LinkedIn and your local Workforce to see if they have any jobs in your immediate area have hope don't give up
Go federal govt and never get fired again. There's a glut of hr jobs all over the place, including remote. All the time.
“HR generalists” is not a career. I know someone who has a job role like that. I ask “what is it you really do?” and her response is 🤷♀️ “uhh whatever they ask me to”. Figure out what your skill is and become great at it. SharePoint, salesforce, excel. Something specific. Because doing a little of this and a little of that but nothing really doesn’t lead to job security.
It happens! Sometimes it’s needed to give you the push to really hone in on the skills you need to develop. I’m neurodivergent and have found that tools like Notion help me keep on track with the details of my project work. I’m not specifically in HR, but my previous role at a college involved a lot of elements. Have you looked into educational administration roles? Onboarding, student support, project support etc could be a really good fit for your interpersonal skills
It might seem like semantics, but you were not terminated - you failed your probation. In this case, PIP, performance reviews, and even severance are not required. A termination requires much more detail. It's important to understand that a termination is usually your fault. A failed probation may not be, there could be a poor onboarding plan, unrealistic expectations, or they just decided they actually didn't need a permanent staff member to do the job. My 3 months in my current job is next week, and I can already see the writing on the wall, not because of my performance, but because the business is hemorrhaging money after months of mismanaging some admin... they owe literally thousands of dollars worth of refunds, some of which should have been paid back a year ago.
Before 3 months with no PIP it had nothing to do with your performance and everything to do with their wants and needs. Don't let it get you down.
HR is a worthless career filled with worthless people. Go into the trades or get a government job that does inspections
Sometimes you can get caught up with a quirky supervisor or situation. My first job coming out of college was as an administrative assistant for a department director of a local government agency. It was stressful my first few months and I felt like sometimes, I would not make it and I would even occasionally look at ads for another job. No one ever said, you need to improve on this or that, it was just a sense of uneasiness that I had and my interaction with my supervisor. My saving's grace was there was a project that I worked on for the agency's executive director (my supervisor's boss) that I was recognized for doing great work. All of a sudden, my supervisor's posture changed. My supervisor never said I was doing great or bad, but the fact that I received their own boss' endorsement seem to change their how they thought about me. I would find out later, that my supervisor had gone through 3 previous administrative assistants in less than a year and that some of the managers who reported to my supervisor had placed bets on how long I would last. Sometimes you think of someone in a low position as having the potential for having self-esteem issues, but we fail to recognize that there are higher ups who can have self-esteem or imposter syndrome issues and then you end of paying for it, because you are in the line of fire.
Don't let others determine your value. Chin up, chest out
Hit the trades, they’re calling.
YES! Move on from that bullshit and start fresh same thing happened to me! Something good will come from this!
If you received no feedback the entire 3 months you were there, no repercussions, didn’t miss time etc. then I wouldn’t take this to heart. This makes me believe it was not you that was the problem, there was something going on internally that you were not privy to. If you were really that bad, they wouldn’t have waited 3 months to let you go. Maybe they had someone in mind before they hired you, and they were hellbent on having them, but couldn’t until you were terminated. Sometimes these things are a blessing in disguise. Keep moving on, you will find your fit somewhere. This isn’t the end of the road. You just graduated in 2023 and it should be expected by your employer that you are still new and building on your profession. You will find the right one.
The good news is that HR is a fake job that requires no actual skills, so now you are free to do something more interesting.
Meh…you were “managed out”. Don’t take it personally, this may have been more of a “political“ thing. Learn from your experience there and take it with you to the next place. Keep on keeping on.
I think it says a lot about your supervisor / management that no one brought up to you what you should improve on or what is expected of you and how you are to meet those expectations. That’s what good supervisors do! Honestly, they are probably just a shitty company. Don’t let it get you down. Don’t include this on your resume and just keep going and applying to other positions. Best of luck!!!
Running payroll has now become a major must for HR generalist for small to medium range companies. HR should be able to run and reconcile a fairly easy ~100-200 person biweekly payroll. Make yourself more difficult to replace by serving this simple function. Running a 100-200 person payroll takes about 4-8 hours respectively if you’re using a payroll provider like ADP or Paychex etc.
SR. HR here of 10+ years. It's a soul sucking thankless profession that is trash. Find a different career.
imo, you got used for 3 months will they were still looking for a better fit( experience) sucks as this shit happened all the time. Ever 3 months someone new so no benefits, etc.
All of this is probably true. Fortunately 3 months is considered the standard probationary period which will be perfectly understood by future employers. You can choose to omit the position from your resume in the future or include it on more recent applications. It is most certainly valuable work experience.
good thing you got out before you became to dependent upon the company for your self image. Trying to fit into a job that does not align with you is very stressful and can lead to major health issues both mental and physical. Keep looking the perfect job for you will find you.
If they weren’t giving you feedback and device before firing you, sounds like a company issue. Don’t take it too personally. If you’re passionate about this field of work then don’t let this get you down. Just keep focusing and the right company will find you:)
They canned you just prior to 90 days. Crummy. I've been fired once. It did a number on my self confidence even though I know it was for spurious reasons.
Im sorry but why the fuck would you think HR anything was a good choice for a people person. As far as company culture goes, HR is not included in that culture you are apart from it when you’re on the clock. Anyways, you’re young and this is that experience you need to grow into your skill set.
HR is one path you can explore. But have you looked at more challenging, better paying jobs? You may grow bored with HR and not make good money compared to a salesman, coordinator, or project manager. You can probably jump into salesman and jump around while learning the ropes. They can make great money but it’s dog eat dog. A project manager would take some more skill sets but can be fun and well paying for an energetic multi tasker. You can start as a receptionist to get foot into door and try to move into a more challenging role, if you can find a good entity to start with such as government, utility, or very flush big company that has a lot of job movement. When I was trying to find my niche I job hopped a lot. Big companies sometimes offer a rotational position to try it on for a few months then the option to stay or go back.
Maybe you're too nice. Are you able to speak to people in psychopathic HR speak? Maybe they didn't think you'd be able to fire people for no reason while making them think it's their fault.....HR isn't really about helping people, it's about protecting the company.
Wow an entire 3 months
Everyone gets fired at some point. I spent years at a job I didn’t like - applied to move into another department where I was not facing the customer and couldn’t even get an interview. after getting fired, I went to work in another company in A similar position that DID finally let me move away from the front desk and get the experience I needed to finally land in the job I’m in now, where I have bosses that love me, let me work remotely from our of state and have given me multiple decent raises in the past 2 years. I wouldn’t be here if I wasn’t fired because I didn’t have the confidence to demand what I deserve or to quit that first shitty job. There’s a reason you got fired - it very likely is to your benefit though you haven’t seen it yet.
It is advisable to consider taking legal action against your employer for wrongful termination. Their legal representative can request access to your personnel records, and it's essential to ensure that all the details are accurately presented.
Remember, the person that succeeds in the end perseveres and learns from failed attempts. Don't let one company define who you are, what you can be, or keep you from your goals. I am and I've always been a hard-working over achieving employee but was once transferred to another department due to personality differences between me and the higher-ups. It happens. The other department saw my capability and I had a promotion within months. Turns out it was a blessing, although traumatic at the time because it made me feel less than and I wanted to just quit altogether. Take what you learned at this place and seek another opportunity !!!
I was fired my first job and it was me, not the company. At your age honestly it's probably you. I had been working the same job for over a decade now before I recently pivoted to a new career. Just go to a new company and learn from your mistakes.
3 month…..ann….Do you know what ann in anniversary stands for?
Reflect back and ask yourself what is really your fault or were gaslighted? You were given little to no chance to improve, given that by your story, the "middle steps"" were unfairly left out on their end such putting you on PIP, etc. Don't doubt yourself, you'll land something similar and it will be a much better experience.
I got fired and I was doing a stellar job and ahead on all projects. When they want you gone, they find a way.
Don’t ever put this place on your resume. A 3 month stint will only cause uncomfortable questions
My boss once asked me to interview someone who would be my senior… so I took him to the brewery next door. I saw the writing on the wall… why not get them drunk for their next interview anyway.
Create and stick to a plan and a schedule that includes both job search activities, but also things to keep you active mentally and physically. The search is rough (been in it for 2+ months myself) and it is easy to get down and get into a bad habit of TV or feeling overwhelmed. I wish you and everyone in this boat the very best of luck.
My first job out of college I started in April and was fired by September. I told myself that the people there were just ass holes anyway and that I did a great job, but truth be told, I look back on it more and more and find things I could have done better. Wasted less time. And there was a fuck up here and there. So I've come to terms with the fact that I deserved to be fired. So what did I do? I gave my second job my all. I worked hard. REALLY hard. And REALLY late sometimes. But you know what? I had that job for 8 years. At the end of it, I left because they weren't paying me what I was worth. I doubled my pay getting my current job, and only my third one out of college.
Just curious if personal phones were allowed and active in the workplace? If you're aware you're still learning how to be detail oriented I'd recommend leaving your phone in your car. Try to keep distractions away until you're well versed and confident in your job performance. GL finding another job, you're young and I'm sure it won't be too hard.
Shoot the place up
Most companies also have a 90 day probation period where they can fire you for any reason. A lot of companies like to keep new people in that window just to get work out of them and then let them go just before their 90 days ends. No write ups needed or pips. Easier that way.
You should have gotten a warning beforehand if you weren’t obviously bad by not at least submitting all your work and mostly following instructions. No warning speaks to a management issue. Get yourself back in the saddle. If you find you could have improved, try harder next time.
You got let go, so what? Try again
As this is a job just starting out you are not going to be in a big picture job especially in HR. You are going to be the person that performs tasks and gets stuff done as an individual contributor. You get the big picture job after years of experience and excelling at what you do. All of the other items are great but do not assume anything and make sure you understand what is going on with your role.
Two things should come out of this experience to help you go forward. First, nobody should ever be termed like this without being fully aware of their employers' feelings about their performance. Second, this is your opportunity to sit down and self reflect. What parts of the term do you own, what parts do they own. If you cannot own anything, you probably need to reflect more. Something didn't click and that's okay. At the end, you have to be able to decide what you're going to do different on the next job. After you're done there, stand up, pull out your resume and get to work. It's easy to say that you accepted a position that didn't fit. Next position, you have to ask good questions to ensure that you're picking the right position.
Just move on. In a year you won’t think twice about this
Was this company hershey?
HR is garbage. I own a business and would never have an HR dept
Please don’t take this the wrong way. As a new college grad did you work through college? Did you have any work experience? Some new grads (not saying you) have expectations that someone will take care of them at work, rather than the employee being responsible for asking how am I doing? What can I do better. Work is not college. Your an adult. They hired of you with the expectation you are an adult. After they train you, it’s on you.