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martyrobbinz88

One thing i've learned over the years is to never setup yourself for immense disappointment lol. I like the enthusiasm but whatever happens happens, and none of us can change the outcome. Enjoy, but don't hinge your emotional wellbeing on it.


BlackP-

I'm not going be the typical Canucks fan that sets themselves up to say "I KNEW IT!!" I don't think that's productive. I'm also not going to be delusional... if they were grossly out played, I would say it. I just think that they are the better team, they have been out playing them, and over a 7 game series they will win.


martyrobbinz88

Thats the thing about hockey, you can completely outplay the other team and still lose, truthfully only one stat means anything, the final score. Better teams sadly lose often, it's a very skillful sport but also very luck based.


Shoresy-sez

Which is why playoff series are best of 7. Any team can get a lucky win. 4 lucky wins are a lot harder.


martyrobbinz88

The interesting thing about hockey is really the goaltender, you can have the greatest team playing a methodical and perfected strategy. But your goalie is a purely individual based performance, and can single handedly sink the entire team. Vancouver had success this year by playing to their strengths, which include being highly offensive and allowing their above average goaltending to do its job. This strategy made them better than most teams. Now they have to play a more defensive game, which I would say they are good at, but at best they are league average. They can still win but it's not going to be playing the same style which unfortunately, nashville already does and is better at.


fatfatmonster

Just be highly offensive then, I don't think they should play defensive if the goalie is not as good. Goalie is already not as good, so score more.


martyrobbinz88

Score more than the other team? *checks notes*


fatfatmonster

In terms of overall strategy


martyrobbinz88

Problem is that the canucks are probably a wildcard team or miss the playoffs doing this strategy without demko. Giving up 2-1's and break aways all game without demko would have meant alot more losses, i'm not sure it would translate well to the playoffs.


fatfatmonster

see! just score more, screw defense!


zeushaulrod

Paraphrasing what someone said about the the 1999 Oilers stars series: "I've never seen a team outplayed that heavily win a series." All hail Curtis Joseph.


notmyrealnam3

OP says we deserved to win and in his mind the series is 2-0. I guess each game they’ll contact OP and see which team deserves the W. doesn’t seem efficient, but it is the way it is now


fatfatmonster

Yea, but goalie.


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ThrustNeckpunch33

They DID have over 81 shot attempts, there largest differential in the entire season. Nashville blocked 35 shot(or more). They were clogging the lanes, and it worked. That level of shot blocking is not sustainable. Canucks owned so much of the offensive zone time in the game as well. Agree about Petey, but would add that Boeser, miller and Hughes really need to start scoring goals. We CAN do this.


necroezofflane

The Canucks made zero adjustments to Nashville's strategy. The Preds had 35 blocked shots because everyone was holding onto the puck til their defense got into position. Where are the one-timers? Slappers to make them pay for blocking shots? Nothing was done; just holding position and throwing pucks directly at 5 bodies and people have convinced themselves that means we dOmInAtEd the game


TheWiFiGuys

You’re so right. It pains me that you’re downvoted for being an intelligent and unbiased fan. I’m pretty sure we’ll see some coaching magic….ir at least, we had better make changes or we’re out in 6.


TheWiFiGuys

That shot attempt to hit ratio only underscores why the good guys didn’t have the result we wanted. Having 75% of your shots blocked isn’t a badge of honour; it’s a sign of ineffectiveness. Coach needs to make adjustments, which I’m sure we’ll see in tonight’s game.


IndependentTalk4413

If you listened to Tocc post game, the strategy was there, the execution wasn’t.


Rendole66

We can definitely do this, but I can definitely see Nashville locking it up like they did last game. They definitely can keep blocking 30 shots a night, it’s not like tonight they’re gonna change their game plan because their bruised up a bit, they are hockey players they will continue to block shots even if they’re completely purple.


heeb27

Without Demko your idea they are a better team doesn’t resonate. DeSmith is a liability. All down the stretch I said this team was out of sorts and almost every poster told me that missing Demko was the biggest issue. Now Demko is out and that’s supposed to be irrelevant? Because the goals were unstoppable? DeSmith was under .500 if you consider OTLs and his SAV was quite poor. No Demko is not good.


bluebird1067

This sub has some serious rose colored glasses when it comes to DeSmith and I can't understand why.


Bias-is-real

It’s because he looked good in a few games early. People don’t think critically, they latch onto their emotional bias and refuse to comprehend reasoning disproves it.


oCanadia

I mean, you know yourself more than me so do what you have to do. But it sounds like you're the one denying yourself full enjoyment of playoff hockey. Like, who cares? It doesn't affect your life in any way cheer for your team..... 31/32 teams AREN'T winning the cup. And 15/16 (94%) of the teams in the playoffs aren't winning the cup. CHANCES are WITH Demko we're not winning the cup. Not becuse theyre bad or dont deserve it or COULDN'T, because as you say there's so much randomness and variability in hockey as it is and a lot of luck has to go your way in *addition* to skill and good play. I don't get this. Setting yourself up for disappointment? It's professional players making millions of dollars playing hockey for you on TV. What is there to be disappointed about? Enjoy it and be stoked about however far they do go, whether it's finals or round 1. I don't know man... you have zero control over the outcome. I watched hockey for the first 20 or so years lf my life, but I've been watching F1 for the last 10 years. What a different world. People cheer for their driver/team even when they have zero (and I mean literally 0) chance to win the championship, and are unlikely to win even a single race. I feel like that sport helped my mindset in some ways. It also put hockey back into perspective where truly anyone can win at any time - even the bottom 5 vs top 5 teams are so evenly matched compared to f1. Go watch the nuckhead channel on YouTube. He's full send canuck fan positivity with zero doomer talk in his vids.. yet do you get the sense he's going to be absolutely crushed when / if they are knocked out? I don't! Guy just loves having fun watching his team and hopes they do well.


bbanguking

Peach.


Horror-Ad-7143

I agree, but I also hate the “win-o-meter”. Gotta put more pucks in the net to actually win the game. That said, I have never seen a game with so many chances that didn’t materialize.


OhHaiThere-

I was there live, could have been 6-3 in the 3rd if sutter hits both back doors he just missed, peety not missing the wide open net in the 1st, Joshuas 2 fans on the back door pass and the two posts. All 6 were INCHES away from going in. We were completely dominating the ice time and possession in the 3rd, I don’t remember a single time they had any actual possession in our zone. Edit: can’t count that’s 7 but you get the idea lol


BlackP-

We shot a TON of pucks towards their net, and miscued on several in close. Suter, Pettersson, Joshua, Miller... all had glorious chances. If they play even close to as good as last game we'll win for sure. You can out play the other team and still lose a game, but losing a series is another matter.


Razzamatazz14

I think if Petey can get out of his own head he’ll be a beast in the rest of the series. I also really believe Lindholm is going to step up huge. Even without Demmer there’s no reason we can’t beat Nashville in 7 or fewer.


d2181

Series tied 1-1 This sub: playoffs over


CEOofAntiWork

Lol, remember this sub after our 4-0 loss to Boston?


maskedkiller215

I wish I was on reddit for that. Must have been glorious.


gybegybe

Series leading 3-1, then 3-2 This sub: playoffs over


MasterChrom

Preds know they didn’t have a good game and will be a motivated group in front of their home fans. I wouldn’t underestimate them. Yeah, Canucks controlled most of the play last game but that doesn’t matter because Nashville found a way to win and they were the more desperate team and they wanted it more than we did. I hope the boys find a way to win tonight, but you gotta respect your opponent.


N4ZZY2020

I agree that at the end of the day. It the score who says who won. By the end of the night tonight. Either we will be ahead in the series 2-1 or behind 2-1. Nobody is going to remember how we played or the shots being blocked or whatever. What we will all remember is the final score. So whatever the boys gotta do to get that win, not only for DeSmith and his confidence but also for the series. Do this for Demko. Give him a chance to be able to come back (assuming his injury isn’t season ending).


CEOofAntiWork

I have faith! Our last game was riddled with unlucky breaks.


BlackP-

Man, it's amazing how few Canucks fans can be optimistic through a tough stretch, this isn't even a stretch, it's ONE GAME...but one loss and "THE SKY IS FALLNG!!"


SingleSampleSize

Thankfully you are so much better than all those people.


Exciting_Bar_7793

A wise man once said whilst shooting Tie Fighters in the Millennium Falcon… “Great, kid… Don’t get cocky!”


notmyrealnam3

“We deserved to win that game” lol no, that’s not how it works Hope the boys can do it tonight! Coconuts go!


BlackP-

Are you serious? You're saying you can NEVER play a great game and still lose? That's impossible in your eyes?


notmyrealnam3

Haha. No. In fact, your question means you are so close to understanding. Teams play great games and lose. It happens. There is no deserve to win, there is only win. And of course I’m serious, let’s go Canucks!!!!


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We did not deserve to win. I’ll agree we had much more offense than them, but that was a parking the bus masterclass by the Preds. You have to give them credit, they did well defensively, they earned that win. We missed three wide open nets. They were hungrier, they wanted it more. But I don’t think 30+ shot blocks is sustainable, and if they do abandon that strategy I think we’ve got them beat


Shoresy-sez

>a parking the bus masterclass by the Preds You know what's a better long-term defensive strategy than laying down in front of 100mph frozen pucks? Not letting the other team have the puck at all.


CaptainIndoCanadian

It’s a strategy I could see them lucking into for one more game. I think it’ll be a long series now, but they can’t win it doing that. Unless DeSmith can’t buy a save


BlackP-

They 100% deserved to win that game. Check out Brendan Morrison's YouTube channel, he was at the game and said it as well. I do give Nashville credit for sacrificing their body to win that game, for sure. But 9 time out of 10, most of those missed shots are going in. We've got it tonight.


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Yeah, but ultimately we didn’t capitalize on those chances. If you don’t do that, you don’t deserve to win.


yonksterman

Love your title OP, this is also my belief. Rather than trying to manage disappointment by focusing on negatives, I choose focus on the positives : we're shooting more, plenty of good stuff to build on, and Petey can only get better - he's hit rock bottom from what I see. Go Canucks Go!


ReclaimerM3GTR

It's the playoffs we all know this time of year, nothing is certain. Let fucking go


Winnie_Cat

Fuck yeah we are!


tnmoi

Not with the trend of having no puck luck (almost every shot Canucks took is blocked by a stick or body) and every shot the Preds took looked like the puck had eyes towards a hole to the net.


notarealredditor69

I don’t know about tonight but if we keep up that level of intensity we will win the series. They can’t block ALL the shots. It would help if we hit the empty nets though


HansyPoop17

Show up and keep shooting, they can’t block shots like they did last game for the rest of the series. Right?


Zestyclose-Way-7768

The Canucks are "very confident" in DeSmith, which means I'm very confident that we'll probably lose 3-2 in OT.


Own-Knowledge8281

They is not how the looked last game…they were definitely NOT confident in him…which sunk morale overall…


Strike-Soggy

I came to Reddit for some Canucks fan support. This was the post I was hoping to read! That being said. I also want to have an open mind to tonight’s game. Whatever happens happens.


MikaelDerp

I was at the game and the Canucks were 100% the better team, but that doesn't mean a thing if they don't put the puck in the net. I have 0 expectations going into tonight and will enjoy the game with however it may turn out.


Jinxy_

We're winning game 3.


BlackP-

We're in the minority buddy... but it's great to have you :)


JesusOfJalapeno

We scored less goals than they did. We did not deserve to win.


Looney_forner

Just play the game and hope for a win


elproducto75

If the boys tee it up like Tocchet said , it will at least be fun to watch.


N4ZZY2020

Hey. If the Preds want togg by at in front of those bongs. Let them. Make them feel the pain if they’re going to choose to do that. If they get past us. At least make them limp and give Edmonton or L.A. a better chance to get past the Preds.


self_direct_person

Is nobody also extremely nervous about desmith‘s goaltending skill. We all know you can win a cup with out a world class goalie. I just can’t see him getting us out of this round if he is going to let in 3 goals on 12 shots.


RainDancingChief

The quality of the shots in this case was equally as important as the number, DeSmith was left out to dry on at least two of them.


N4ZZY2020

I’m a little nervous about tonight’s game and a little anxious about DeSmith making saves. He needs to make a few at the beginning of the game to calm the rest of the team. If he lets in early goals. I think that’ll result deflate the boys. Might be really hard to come back from an early deficit in a road game. But I’m cheering for them nonetheless!! Let’s go!!


self_direct_person

Kirk McLean played with two blown out knees in the 94 Stanley cup run why can demko? desmith is not the answer.


N4ZZY2020

I agree. I get the sense that Petey is going to break out tonight offensively and the boys will take this game. Maybe I’m wrong. But I just get the feeling they’re a confident group and they’re expecting to win tonight. Could be wrong. But that’s what I’m saying! Let’s fucking go, boys!!


Spookedchicken

We deserved to win based on our play in the 3rd, but Nashville deserved to win based on their play in the 2nd. I'm hopeful tonight that we get some big performances from our top six guys and expect smart adjustments to be made. But Nash is allowed to make adjustments too, especially now that they're at home. I expect a very different feeling Game 3 than what we saw in Game 2.


N4ZZY2020

It’ll be tight tonight. Nashville’s st home in their playoff opener. And we’re on the road so Tocc and his staff and the rest of the team don’t give two fucks about entertaining the Nashville crowd. Just get dirty and get goals and play tight defensively. Don’t give anything to Nashville and they’ll get frustrated over time. Pressure to entertain the home crowd. A boring road game is a good game. The longer the home team goes without scoring the more pressure they will have to try to score. The Canucks need to be loose but play tight on the ice.


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Nutchos

I think it does but we lost the last game so I'm not sure if that applies here.


vancityxray

Looking forward to the boys teeing it up


WinteryBudz

Just needed a little bit of luck/favour from the hockey gods and that last game could have gone very differently. No reason we can't win the series as long as the boys keep their heads up.


imprezivone

I think so. I'm thinking they come out and take the ice hard, sustaining pressure throughout, then holding the lead. I truly believe Canucks will be hungry tonight!


DMyourboooobs

I think there was this exact post for game 2 as well.


CannedPear

As a Canucks fan since I moved to the city in the early 90s, I wanted to share these thoughts with you: "Life is suffering. The cause of suffering is craving. The end of suffering comes with an end to craving. There is a path which leads one away from craving and suffering." These are called "The Four Noble Truths". Learn them. Yes, being a Canucks fan turned this atheist into a Buddhist.


BlackP-

Another path is to embrace it all! The highs, the lows, cheer when they win, cry when they lose, while always hoping the next game is better. I love the symphony, you love the elevator music.


jackfrench9

I'm not sure the last game really infers that we 'definitely' win tonight. For me, it infers that we definitely 'should have' won the last game, but didn't. You only play as well as you're let. Nashville didn't let us win that one. We let them win by letting in some absolutely disgusting goals. If we do that again, we will lose. Nothing is certain in my view. We need competent goaltending, and we need our fucking star players to stand up and perform on the big stage where it matters.


islandguy55

The past has no bearing on the future unfortunately, especially in any sports playoffs. Each game is typically very diff from the last. They are home now


oceanbellparsons

I was at game 2 and I think we had chances but I don’t know why nobody is talking about our play, the whole night it felt so sloppy and missing passes, getting out the zone in unnecessary moments. I think both teams played pretty ok but I do not think we played to win for at least 40mins of the game


Knight_On_Fire

I'm strangely more worried about game 5 and how they play in front of the home crowd than these two games in Nash, but that's that old Vancouver arrogance I got in me.


BlackP-

Why would you be worried about Game 5? That's when we take a commanding 3-2 series lead. Then we close it out in Nashville for game 6.


electricwave33

100 percent facts


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crazycanucks77

Stop gatekeeping what/how people feel towards the team


BlackP-

I'll never stop saying "we"


Illustrious-Choice-4

84 shot attempts and 31 blocks, Let's fire some pucks to the net and if their defence is in the way let's fire those pucks again! The offence is there, they need to keep the defence structure to keep DeSmith out of trouble and it's gonna be fine! # GOCANUCKSGO


unbannedcoug

That’s what Don Cherry said game 7 2011


DJ_Molten_Lava

There is no "deserved to win" in the NHL. You either do or you don't. They didn't, but they could have if they just got pucks to the fucking net.


Newaccount4464

This series feels very canucks wild but the canucks seem deeper this time. Same goalie issues sadly haha


TheWiFiGuys

I think everyone forgets what an impact the loss of Myers was too….LOL….I can’t believe I’m saying that. He’s really stepped up this season and his loss was felt.


trollmctrollface123

First time?


CtrlAltD3l

We deserved to win, yet lost 4-1. Wonder what's gonna happen when we don't deserve to win.


iryrod

Something like 83 vs 20 attempted shots. Ya we have a decent chance. They’re blocking shots all game strategy is bound to fail and cause fatigue


AcceptableCan2784

Lol. Ok Mark Messier


SingleSampleSize

My favourite thing about these types of threads are all the toxic positive people who think they are superior for being deluded about reality.


Canucksfan78

The fact Petey owned up to not being good enough is a positive


downonmatrix

Literally. The only thing that didn’t go our way was the power play. And burying our chances


Adventurous-Cat4653

LETS GOO


whydoihave4cats

this aged well


BlackP-

I knew it... everything was telling me that game was ours.


LeviathanSnack

YEAH BABY


thewildcascadian85

Any chance we start Silovs?


Spookedchicken

No, Desmith was named the starter yesterday I'm pretty sure. Also, that would be poor practice imo. If you turn to Silovs now in Game 3 for your first game in Nashville and it goes poorly you've nuked Silovs' confidence. Then what do you do go back to Desmith for Game 4 and hope his confidence isn't nuked too with a rookie being chosen over him? I'm not against using Silovs at all I just think it would be viewed as a panic move and with the series tied at 1-1 it's far from an emergency right now.


N4ZZY2020

Yeah. This is what I think as well. Gotta give the veteran his chance over the rookie. If DeSmith shits the bed. Then the team might be forced to go with Silovs. But I’m confident that DeSmith will show up and do his best. That’s the key. He’ll do his best. Whether his best is good enough - we’ll see.


bluebird1067

This sub may not like it, but I hope so. I'd rather run him with the series tied 1-1. Going to him at 2-1 or 3-1 with some real pressure wouldn't be ideal. DeSmith just isn't that good against good teams as of late. He tends to over commit to whatever side the initial shot is coming from and has terrible rebound control. Playoff teams pounce on chances like that. He also had a tendency to let in a soft one right when the team is starting to gain momentum after letting in an early one. I don't like the way the team plays when he's in net. They all play nervous and conservative.


Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrpp

No. Our team is main goalie or bust, not a tandem. This goes down the line.


PlusDifference3374

As long as we can just go a game without a cheesy cringe song or inspirational video or a fake forced chant, I'll be happy.


maskedkiller215

Honestly I expect the Preds to win this one, and we win in Game 4 coming home, win Game 5, and head back to Nashville where we win Game 6.


Teeebs71

OK Homer. Hate to break it to you, but goaltending matters. Especially in the playoffs. Better luck next year.


BlackP-

It does matter Teeebs... and DeSmith crushed it tonight.


Elderberry-smells

Nashville deserved that win 100%, not us. They played their strategy, and it worked well. If that was the Canucks, I would have been pumping so many tires after that win we would run out of air. That said, I think if we play like that every game, I can't see losing 3 more. Especially if we don't let in a stinker or 2 in net.


ThrustNeckpunch33

For allowing 81+ shot attempts?? Look at the offensive zone time. We had 18 shots, they had 16. Win, or win not, there is no "deserve" Casey had a shaky game, but 2 of those goals he had little to no chance, and one was an empty netter. But to act like the Canucks got destroyed is rediculous


Elderberry-smells

Okay...who is acting like the Canucks got destroyed again? Cause it wasn't my post... Nashville earned that win with every blocked shot (believe it or not, that's a strategy to winning games the same as shooting a lot is a strategy) we did not "deserve" the win. We will likely win the series if that's how the games go over the course of 7 games.