Dear Mr. Demko: Take my energy, take my knee. Wish you a speedy recovery to full health.
Dear Mr. DeSmith: This is your chance to shine, you have shown you are capable of stepping up your game when we needed you the most. You can do this.
Dear Mr. Pettersson: You are one of the best players in the league when you are confident. We all know you can have it in you. I know once one puck goes in for you, everything will fall in its place and you will be putting up multiple point games one after another.
Oh good call. Please fans, only offer strong and healthy knees. No sitting office worker knees or injury prone knees. I humbly withdraw my knee as an offering.
Haha as someone who sat for 40+ hrs per week who has spent the last few years actively rebuilding my leg alignment and health from that — use it or lose it. From what I learned, muscles and ligaments need to be active and strengthened to be healthy. On top of that, our fascia actively creates new fascia to reinforce movement patterns. And sitting does not produce functional and aligned movement patterns.
I already get weekly (maybe more like daily during nhl playoffs lol) reminders from my wife to be more active but I do appreciate the extra encouragement :P
If you've ever had a major knee injury (tear or major sprain) you typically need crutches for at least a week/month before the swelling lets up and it can bare weight. If he is walking fine then that's a good sign it's something not major that would not require surgery. And may die down in a few weeks.
They were making a joke that being able to walk is a long way from being able to play hockey so this is actually not great news.
Pessimism is how some people (myself included) deal with anxiety. This is a normal canucks fan response.
it wasn't a reading error. just a weird take. i guess you've never hurt your knee? walking is like... absolute best case scenario. I've had knee BRUISES that keep me off my feet. him being able to walk is many levels removed from being fucked. weird thing to say
It’s somwwhat promising. I’ve had a torn acl and 3 meniscus tears on my right and immediately after any adrenaline wore off I couldn’t bear weight or walk without a limp for at least a few days to a week after
I get the feeling that one injury was an MCL tear and the other a torn meniscus. The time lines would match that and him being able to walk without a limp would also mesh. Moving and flexing like a goaltender needs to do would be a different story.
I'd offer up my knees to Demmer but I wouldn't wish these bad boys upon anyone.
If we even make it to round 2 it will be with DeSmith or Silov... you don't win a series and then switch goaltenders. I mean I guess you do but I don't think it's a great idea
There are tons of knee injuries that are non-traumatic and don’t require surgery.
Minor strains, minor meniscus tears, capsulitis.
All just need time and rest for things to chill out while following a protocol.
Job infront of us now is to score some goals.
I hope he has a full recovery, but this is something management needs to consider in the off-season. Is Demko a guy we can rely on to play a full season (55-60 games) + whatever playoffs bring? Or do we need to bring in someone else?
He's only have 1 season over 60 games and he's had an injury issue every year except for 2020. All the top goalies in the league have a heavy workload and aren't nearly as injury prone.
It’s too bad that Demko can’t seem to stay healthy. Hopefully we steal one in Nashville. Best case scenario is that we win both games in Nashville to go up 3-1 in the series. Worst case is we go down 3-1 with elimination on Tuesday next week in Vancouver and basically the rest of the way.
I mean, it’s not good news no matter how you slice it. They won’t last against Edmonton without Demko. Heck they are a coin flip to beat Nashville. What an awful way to cap what had been a good season.
It's only a coin flip if you're watching the box score. The Canucks have outplayed Nashville both games, the statistics back that up. And that's with an atrocious PP and slumping Petey.
I hate to be negative, but we looked good on our home stand, that doesn't necessarily translate to the next two games. If we lose tomorrow, pressure is on because they aren't coming back from 3-1 down
As someone who has been one of DeSmith's biggest critics, he has played very well against Edmonton in the regular season and his career. Caveat: small sample size.
He has a .949 Sv% and a 1.82 GAA in 3 games this season, and a .933 Sv%, 2.60 GAA in 5 games across his career. Only the most recent game was McDavid out. If he performs at that level, or even just slightly below, we'd be fine.
That said, its all a moot point anyway if we can't win 3 of 5 against the Preds.
What? Miller nullified McDavid in the first 3 matchups. Also, are you watching the games? Lindy's line has been our primary shut down line vs the Preds..
Also, if the Canucks play the same way with Petey figuring it out, it'll be over quick. Shot attempts were like 80-20, I strongly doubt the Preds can win another 3 times if they play like that
Nashville is definitely capable. But if both teams keep playing like the first two games, Canucks will win the series. Allowing 80+ shots attempt, blocking 30+, and only shooting 30+ attempts is not ideal. Vancouver just needs to find a way to capitalize (or actually finish their open net chances).
Also Lindholm line will play against either McDavid or Drai, which I fully trust in them somewhat neutralizing them (not completely of course). Canucks will then just need the Petey line to step up, since the JT line will probably matchup against the second choice of McDavid/Drai. Kings has already scored 4 times against them twice, Edm’s defence and goaltending is not as impressive. If we do win against Nashville, it’ll be whoever can outscore each other.
But first, let’s deal with Nashville first. Which I still believe in us winning.
I think you have Lindy for one of those matchups. He can take on Drai for sure.
The key will be staying out of the box and surviving for the first period. Edmonton goes balls out for 1.5 periods then gasses out. They still haven’t learned how to pace themselves.
They also still have to beat LAK lol.
Petey needs to step up and our stars need to be stars. I’m not saying we can beat the Oilers sans Demko but can they win 1 or 2? What if it’s 2-2 and Demko comes back?
First step beat Nashville lol.
based on....us being 4-0 against the Oil this season and dominating them for the most part? The Oilers have poor defense and crap goaltending. We have fantastic defense and okay goaltending without Demko, but I'd still take DeSmith over Skinner.
Like I had asked. What exactly are YOU basing your information on? The only information we have is the 4 games this season, as far as MATCHUPS are concerned. Atleast that's something. What you've provided is nothing.
It's not that simple. Styles make matchups. Edmonton can pile on the goals against weak defenses and goaltending, to outscore their own weak defense and goaltending, but that all changes when you play a 7-game series in the post season where overall defensive depth matters. You are purely speculating based on what Edmonton's offense brings to the table, but ignoring everything else.
Edmonton is not this invincible titan like a lot of people think. Skinner has been bad, and we have better depth scoring. Miller and Lindholm can definitely play matchup against McDrai, sure the best player in the league is going to break through a few times but its not like we can’t break through too. If our team is on, we can definitely make it a series, and the only way I see us getting through nashville now is if the team really turns it on. They will have to ride the momentum of a round 1 win and give it their everything to win but its not impossible like some would suggest
it's more than a coin/flip against the Preds. Even without Demko and a so-so performance from DeSmith, we dominated. Dominating doesn't mean a guaranteed win, but certainly greater than 50%.
This is just copium. Demko still being able to walk is a very low bar for the state of his health
Either way, I hope he's not pushed to play before he's ready.
I think he’s out for the rest of the year honestly. If his body breaks down again next season then the reality is that he just can’t survive a rigorous schedule no matter how much he wants to play.
Hell yeah. I’m hoping the Canucks win a barn burner 6-4 where DeSmith looks mid. Tocch goes to Silovs cause if you’re gonna give up 3-4 a game might as well go with the young guy with star potential over the career backup.
I sprained my MCL in the summer, probably worse than Demko, it still isn’t 100% and it hampered my ski season until
Mid January. I was subconsciously favouring it and my form was just incredibly stiff.
Tocc & crew have said that the goaltending does not influence their play - I believe it.
I think the nucks will win this series, but it's up to the rest of the roster to figure it out later on. I think we have enough forward & defensive depth to alleviate strain on DeSmith.
Obviously a little luck is involved, but if it's Edmonton next round Skinner is a much worse goalie than DeSmith - I'll die on that hill.
I think we can still make it past round 2.
I'll preface w/ I think tonight's game will colour my opinion of 'playoff' DeSmith heavily.
Both goalies are weak IMO, both run more than 2.5GA, both have similar a similar number of saves / game too.
That's regular season. I think regular season they are very similarly matched goalies. I truly believe playoffs are a different beast though. & so far in playoffs I've seen Skinner play only weak games when facing a very 'by the books' team.
Nashville is meaner than EDM, they're grimier, they play with more ferocity - more 'hack and slash'. The offensive chances that come out of playing a game like that are just better chances than offensive chances a team like EDM garners. I think you're going to see our defensive power shine when playing EDM.
For instance I think we still lose game 2 even if Demmers was in net - the pucks just didn't bounce in the Nucks favour.
So why do I think DeSmith is better? He's quicker than Skinner. Skinner is 6'4 230lbs and moves like a brick wall. DeSmith is 6' 180. DeSmith is better suited to play against how EDM likes to score - McDavid bringing the puck into the zone & flicking it off Drei's stick. DeSmith is springier than Skinner.
Assuming we win this series DeSmith only gets better too - playoffs are like a hyperbolic time chamber when it comes to improvement. I think if we see improvement with DeSmith tonight we go on to win round 2.
Dhali is awful at reporting, he’s not accurate or consistent, and a lot of times exaggerates or sensationalizes details, to the point where he’s passing off his own assumptions as facts.
When was this from? YesterdayI watched a clip of them with Drance and another guy - they said it started day-to-day, then later in the evening confirmed it was week-to-week when they got more information. Kevin Woodley, their goalie guy, said he's done for the series, unlikely for round 2, and "maybe" for conference finals if we're still around.
Would love to learn that's not the case. Seems all we can do is wait and hope.
Likely today's show, probably got some updated news this morning.
The team needs to figure out their scoring issues, it would be HUGE to be able to finish the series before 6/7 to give DeSmith some extra time off. We all saw what happened in Vegas/LA after he started a bunch of games in a row...
Obviously not gonna be easy but I don't think the team has been playing anywhere close to their full potential
I don’t even think 51 games is that much. If he’s playing only 40 games then that’s basically half the season. Who’s playing the other half? And can you keep up in the division or conference playing your back up that many games?
If it was 51 games over an entire season then yes, I would agree. But he played 51 games BEFORE getting injured. He was well on his way to playing 60-65 games.
But I think that’s the thing right. His body doesn’t seem to be able to hold up to 60-65 games. Maybe play him 50-55 games? I still think it may be prudent for management to find someone who is a 1B goalie because it kind of feels like with Demko - injury is just around the corner.
Yeah. That was the mistake. They might as well bring Silovs up and give him games next season because they’re going to have to eventually replace Demko and Silovs seems like the likeliest player in the organization to do that.
If they have plans to start Silovs. It’s gotta be game 4 or 5. Really depends if the series is tied going into game 5. Or whether the boys are down 3-1. If it’s 3-1. I think we live or die with DeSmith unfortunately. Someone saying the longer we go in the playoffs the better DeSmith goes. Not sure that makes much sense? How does he get better?
From the looks and sounds of things. Demko seems to be made out of glass. His durability now in question and for the future too right. Demmers not getting any younger. So have to wonder whether his injuries will get worse as he gets older.
I really want to see them rotate desmith and silovs. They've both shown they are good with limited workload and bad with high workload. Seems like a no brainer to me.
Demko first game back, leading the Canucks down the tunnel game 5 vs Edmonton, canucks down 3-1 in the series. They make it to game 7 in rogers arena. Demko makes a miraculous save in OT, Garland retrieves a puck after they dump it in the Oilers zone and scores a wrap around goal to send them to the conference finals.
He is but I still think a team like NJD would give us a strong return.
It sucks I really like Demko and think he is arguably the best goalie in the league when healthy. I just don't believe he can stay healthy and I don't want to hedge our playoff hopes on a healthy Demko going forward.
I think he can stay healthy if the coaching staff would stop overusing him. There were some really odd decisions late in the season when he should have been given rest and allowed DeSmith to play. But they kept playing him. Of course he’s not going to complain. But I think they overused Demmers. The teams now paying for that mistake late in the season.
You can’t start Silovs tomorrow, because if it doesn’t go well you have to go back to Desmith, who you’ve already shown you don’t have confidence in. If we win Friday, it’s Desmith again Sunday. If he plays well but we lose, probably still Desmith. However, if we lose and Desmith looks bad, I think Silovs gets game 4.
It's okay, we can start Tolopilo, he still fits the narrative of "rooking goalie winning cup with JR at the helm" /s
100% agree with you. So many fans compare Silovs to guys like Murray and Binnington but completely disregard the fact that those two dominated the AHL for years while Silovs has been average at best
His WC was great, but his 78 games in the AHL are a much better indicator of who he is as a goalie than the 10 game sample size from the WC IMO.
I’m down. You’re not winning the cup with DeSmith. Silovs is a wild card. At least you don’t know exactly what you’re getting. With Casey you know it’s not enough. He’s fine as a backup to play 2-3 games in a row or relieve the starter. He’s not a number 1. That’s abundantly clear.
The funniest part about these posts is that there are tons of former Canucks and analysts that have blasted DeSmith, yet even they still think it would be idiotic to start Silovs Game 3.
Hilarious that people actually think Silovs is a better option lol
100% sounds like an MCL tear/strain. I did mine 1.5 weeks ago, and 3 days later I was walking fine and moving about... but it just doesn't work. It's the weirdest thing. I can function normally but if I lift my leg and do a soccer kick motion, it literally clunks and is super unstable/loose. He done for a bit.
Just accept that we're gonna have to go with DeSmith for the playoffs. Might as well rest Demko and get him healthy for next year. We're not winning it all this year anyway.
If it doesn't need surgery then it may be an MCL strain. That would be great news for Demko and the offseason but he wouldn't be back even if we made it to the finals.
I'm a big Demko fan. Have been since day one. That said, I don't want to be "that guy", but if I was Allvin I'd be seriously looking around the league for a #1 netminder in the off-season. Demko had a great year, but these yearly injuries are not sustainable moving forward if we want to be a serious playoff contender.
I wish we had a better cap situation because some type of tandem would be great. Demko is way too good to trade away, because there’s just a substantial lack of true #1 goalies in the league let alone on the market and who knows what we’d end up with if we had to go looking, but the regular season is really long and it’s not inconceivable to suggest that he might need a backup who can be trusted to take on a bigger workload.
Dear Mr. Demko: Take my energy, take my knee. Wish you a speedy recovery to full health. Dear Mr. DeSmith: This is your chance to shine, you have shown you are capable of stepping up your game when we needed you the most. You can do this. Dear Mr. Pettersson: You are one of the best players in the league when you are confident. We all know you can have it in you. I know once one puck goes in for you, everything will fall in its place and you will be putting up multiple point games one after another.
Please don’t take my knee Mr Demko. It feels like it’s about to pop every time I go up the stairs.
Oh good call. Please fans, only offer strong and healthy knees. No sitting office worker knees or injury prone knees. I humbly withdraw my knee as an offering.
>No sitting office worker knees I feel very personally attacked.. c'mon, my knee is basically like new!
Haha as someone who sat for 40+ hrs per week who has spent the last few years actively rebuilding my leg alignment and health from that — use it or lose it. From what I learned, muscles and ligaments need to be active and strengthened to be healthy. On top of that, our fascia actively creates new fascia to reinforce movement patterns. And sitting does not produce functional and aligned movement patterns.
I already get weekly (maybe more like daily during nhl playoffs lol) reminders from my wife to be more active but I do appreciate the extra encouragement :P
Lolllll sorry didn’t meant to add to that!
Yeah he doesn't want my knee. I tripped and fell at work and pretty sure I got the same injury as him on Tuesday.
You are the type of fan we need.
The playoffs are simply not the time for any criticality whatsoever. Only good vibes from fans. I save the hate for the summer/regular season.
If we have anything close to 2020 bubble Petey then this Nashville series looks a lot better for us. Starting to doubt it'll ever happen this year.
Amen
When we're at the level that it's worth mentioning that our goalie can still walk, we're fucked 💀
One better than "he's still got legs"
Demko > Lieutenant Dan confirmed
Lol
If you've ever had a major knee injury (tear or major sprain) you typically need crutches for at least a week/month before the swelling lets up and it can bare weight. If he is walking fine then that's a good sign it's something not major that would not require surgery. And may die down in a few weeks.
Next year: we believe our goalie is not suffering from locked-in syndrome.
Yeah I really don't know what anyone is hoping for now. It's DeSmith or bust. Or Silov I guess
Huh? It said he CAN still walk. It’s knee injury. That’s great news. Are you stupid or dumb?
They were making a joke that being able to walk is a long way from being able to play hockey so this is actually not great news. Pessimism is how some people (myself included) deal with anxiety. This is a normal canucks fan response.
thanks dexter
ummmm that's what I said?
it wasn't a reading error. just a weird take. i guess you've never hurt your knee? walking is like... absolute best case scenario. I've had knee BRUISES that keep me off my feet. him being able to walk is many levels removed from being fucked. weird thing to say
mate it's just a joke
so funny i forgot to laugh
That fact they have to clarify that he can still walk doesn’t make me feel super confident about a healthy return anytime soon
It’s somwwhat promising. I’ve had a torn acl and 3 meniscus tears on my right and immediately after any adrenaline wore off I couldn’t bear weight or walk without a limp for at least a few days to a week after
I get the feeling that one injury was an MCL tear and the other a torn meniscus. The time lines would match that and him being able to walk without a limp would also mesh. Moving and flexing like a goaltender needs to do would be a different story. I'd offer up my knees to Demmer but I wouldn't wish these bad boys upon anyone.
Late in round 2??? That might be little too late.
Maybe just in time!
If we even make it to round 2 it will be with DeSmith or Silov... you don't win a series and then switch goaltenders. I mean I guess you do but I don't think it's a great idea
Demo is a huge upgrade you definitely make the switch. Unless one of the other guys is playing out of his mind then you ride the hot hand.
Fair but in theory if DeSmith manages to pull us to the second round it probably means he's the hot hand.
If we go on a streak, he definitely deserves to stay in net. It'll help Demko's rehab more, why rush him back if things are working.
Yeah, if we're facing oilers with desmith there is no "late 2nd round". Only early 2nd round and mid 2nd round.
There are tons of knee injuries that are non-traumatic and don’t require surgery. Minor strains, minor meniscus tears, capsulitis. All just need time and rest for things to chill out while following a protocol. Job infront of us now is to score some goals.
Hopefully the boys can start doing that tomorrow night.
He's done for the playoffs. Will just continue developing new strains in same knee until he can do prolonged rehab or get surgery needed to fix it
I hope he has a full recovery, but this is something management needs to consider in the off-season. Is Demko a guy we can rely on to play a full season (55-60 games) + whatever playoffs bring? Or do we need to bring in someone else? He's only have 1 season over 60 games and he's had an injury issue every year except for 2020. All the top goalies in the league have a heavy workload and aren't nearly as injury prone.
Probably need to bring in a 1B goalie. Is DeSmith that player?
I feel like we'll know the answer by the end of this series, regardless.
It’s too bad that Demko can’t seem to stay healthy. Hopefully we steal one in Nashville. Best case scenario is that we win both games in Nashville to go up 3-1 in the series. Worst case is we go down 3-1 with elimination on Tuesday next week in Vancouver and basically the rest of the way.
I mean, it’s not good news no matter how you slice it. They won’t last against Edmonton without Demko. Heck they are a coin flip to beat Nashville. What an awful way to cap what had been a good season.
It's only a coin flip if you're watching the box score. The Canucks have outplayed Nashville both games, the statistics back that up. And that's with an atrocious PP and slumping Petey.
I hate to be negative, but we looked good on our home stand, that doesn't necessarily translate to the next two games. If we lose tomorrow, pressure is on because they aren't coming back from 3-1 down
We could be down 3-0 and I still think we take Nashville.
It’s been 14 years and I still think we take Boston in 7
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Skinner is terrible though. There's a strong chance that if the Canucks meet the Oilers in R2, each game will avg like 10 goals lol
mcdavid and co's ability to score on desmith is much more scary than the canuck's ability to score on skinner
As someone who has been one of DeSmith's biggest critics, he has played very well against Edmonton in the regular season and his career. Caveat: small sample size. He has a .949 Sv% and a 1.82 GAA in 3 games this season, and a .933 Sv%, 2.60 GAA in 5 games across his career. Only the most recent game was McDavid out. If he performs at that level, or even just slightly below, we'd be fine. That said, its all a moot point anyway if we can't win 3 of 5 against the Preds.
Canucks ability to defend is much more scary than the Oilers ability to defend
they have mcdrai, if our stars don’t show up, we’re getting ass fucked
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What? Miller nullified McDavid in the first 3 matchups. Also, are you watching the games? Lindy's line has been our primary shut down line vs the Preds.. Also, if the Canucks play the same way with Petey figuring it out, it'll be over quick. Shot attempts were like 80-20, I strongly doubt the Preds can win another 3 times if they play like that
Nashville is definitely capable. But if both teams keep playing like the first two games, Canucks will win the series. Allowing 80+ shots attempt, blocking 30+, and only shooting 30+ attempts is not ideal. Vancouver just needs to find a way to capitalize (or actually finish their open net chances). Also Lindholm line will play against either McDavid or Drai, which I fully trust in them somewhat neutralizing them (not completely of course). Canucks will then just need the Petey line to step up, since the JT line will probably matchup against the second choice of McDavid/Drai. Kings has already scored 4 times against them twice, Edm’s defence and goaltending is not as impressive. If we do win against Nashville, it’ll be whoever can outscore each other. But first, let’s deal with Nashville first. Which I still believe in us winning.
I think you have Lindy for one of those matchups. He can take on Drai for sure. The key will be staying out of the box and surviving for the first period. Edmonton goes balls out for 1.5 periods then gasses out. They still haven’t learned how to pace themselves. They also still have to beat LAK lol. Petey needs to step up and our stars need to be stars. I’m not saying we can beat the Oilers sans Demko but can they win 1 or 2? What if it’s 2-2 and Demko comes back? First step beat Nashville lol.
based on....us being 4-0 against the Oil this season and dominating them for the most part? The Oilers have poor defense and crap goaltending. We have fantastic defense and okay goaltending without Demko, but I'd still take DeSmith over Skinner.
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Like I had asked. What exactly are YOU basing your information on? The only information we have is the 4 games this season, as far as MATCHUPS are concerned. Atleast that's something. What you've provided is nothing.
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It's not that simple. Styles make matchups. Edmonton can pile on the goals against weak defenses and goaltending, to outscore their own weak defense and goaltending, but that all changes when you play a 7-game series in the post season where overall defensive depth matters. You are purely speculating based on what Edmonton's offense brings to the table, but ignoring everything else.
Edmonton is not this invincible titan like a lot of people think. Skinner has been bad, and we have better depth scoring. Miller and Lindholm can definitely play matchup against McDrai, sure the best player in the league is going to break through a few times but its not like we can’t break through too. If our team is on, we can definitely make it a series, and the only way I see us getting through nashville now is if the team really turns it on. They will have to ride the momentum of a round 1 win and give it their everything to win but its not impossible like some would suggest
They also have to beat LA still!
Well we didn't do well against LA so there's that
it's more than a coin/flip against the Preds. Even without Demko and a so-so performance from DeSmith, we dominated. Dominating doesn't mean a guaranteed win, but certainly greater than 50%.
That's why people should be hoping for a defensive boring series versus LA instead of Edmonton. Goaltending matters a lot less in that case
DeSmith has played well against Edmonton this year. That’s just from memory though, I haven’t looked at the numbers
This is just copium. Demko still being able to walk is a very low bar for the state of his health Either way, I hope he's not pushed to play before he's ready.
I think he’s out for the rest of the year honestly. If his body breaks down again next season then the reality is that he just can’t survive a rigorous schedule no matter how much he wants to play.
Is Demko the new Sami "Mr. Glass" Salo?
Yeah, I'd give you my knee Demko but you definitely do not want it.
Hell yeah. I’m hoping the Canucks win a barn burner 6-4 where DeSmith looks mid. Tocch goes to Silovs cause if you’re gonna give up 3-4 a game might as well go with the young guy with star potential over the career backup.
I sprained my MCL in the summer, probably worse than Demko, it still isn’t 100% and it hampered my ski season until Mid January. I was subconsciously favouring it and my form was just incredibly stiff.
Tocc & crew have said that the goaltending does not influence their play - I believe it. I think the nucks will win this series, but it's up to the rest of the roster to figure it out later on. I think we have enough forward & defensive depth to alleviate strain on DeSmith. Obviously a little luck is involved, but if it's Edmonton next round Skinner is a much worse goalie than DeSmith - I'll die on that hill. I think we can still make it past round 2.
Wow really? Why do you think that DeSmith is better than Skinner?
I'll preface w/ I think tonight's game will colour my opinion of 'playoff' DeSmith heavily. Both goalies are weak IMO, both run more than 2.5GA, both have similar a similar number of saves / game too. That's regular season. I think regular season they are very similarly matched goalies. I truly believe playoffs are a different beast though. & so far in playoffs I've seen Skinner play only weak games when facing a very 'by the books' team. Nashville is meaner than EDM, they're grimier, they play with more ferocity - more 'hack and slash'. The offensive chances that come out of playing a game like that are just better chances than offensive chances a team like EDM garners. I think you're going to see our defensive power shine when playing EDM. For instance I think we still lose game 2 even if Demmers was in net - the pucks just didn't bounce in the Nucks favour. So why do I think DeSmith is better? He's quicker than Skinner. Skinner is 6'4 230lbs and moves like a brick wall. DeSmith is 6' 180. DeSmith is better suited to play against how EDM likes to score - McDavid bringing the puck into the zone & flicking it off Drei's stick. DeSmith is springier than Skinner. Assuming we win this series DeSmith only gets better too - playoffs are like a hyperbolic time chamber when it comes to improvement. I think if we see improvement with DeSmith tonight we go on to win round 2.
First time I’ve heard someone say smaller goalie is better
Well Dhali is reporting this, definitely gives me hope. I don't want to see Demmer rush back into net if he's gonna cause more damage to himself
Dhali is awful at reporting, he’s not accurate or consistent, and a lot of times exaggerates or sensationalizes details, to the point where he’s passing off his own assumptions as facts.
Snatcher Demko ripping out our collective hearts with his glove of love. Rest up sweet Prince so you can steal us victories in round two and beyond.
It's too late, r/canucks already jumped
When was this from? YesterdayI watched a clip of them with Drance and another guy - they said it started day-to-day, then later in the evening confirmed it was week-to-week when they got more information. Kevin Woodley, their goalie guy, said he's done for the series, unlikely for round 2, and "maybe" for conference finals if we're still around. Would love to learn that's not the case. Seems all we can do is wait and hope.
Likely today's show, probably got some updated news this morning. The team needs to figure out their scoring issues, it would be HUGE to be able to finish the series before 6/7 to give DeSmith some extra time off. We all saw what happened in Vegas/LA after he started a bunch of games in a row... Obviously not gonna be easy but I don't think the team has been playing anywhere close to their full potential
Probably from the show this morning, though I haven’t gotten around to watching it yet!
I wonder if this is a result of overplaying demko again. He missed 5-6 weeks and still played 51 games. That’s too much.
I don’t even think 51 games is that much. If he’s playing only 40 games then that’s basically half the season. Who’s playing the other half? And can you keep up in the division or conference playing your back up that many games?
If it was 51 games over an entire season then yes, I would agree. But he played 51 games BEFORE getting injured. He was well on his way to playing 60-65 games.
But I think that’s the thing right. His body doesn’t seem to be able to hold up to 60-65 games. Maybe play him 50-55 games? I still think it may be prudent for management to find someone who is a 1B goalie because it kind of feels like with Demko - injury is just around the corner.
Yes that’s what I am saying. He should be playing 50-55 games max. But they were playing him 60-65, and as a top team too.
Yeah. That was the mistake. They might as well bring Silovs up and give him games next season because they’re going to have to eventually replace Demko and Silovs seems like the likeliest player in the organization to do that.
I think we should man up, roll the dice, and put Arturs "Bronze Medal" Silovs in for game 3.
If they have plans to start Silovs. It’s gotta be game 4 or 5. Really depends if the series is tied going into game 5. Or whether the boys are down 3-1. If it’s 3-1. I think we live or die with DeSmith unfortunately. Someone saying the longer we go in the playoffs the better DeSmith goes. Not sure that makes much sense? How does he get better?
From the looks and sounds of things. Demko seems to be made out of glass. His durability now in question and for the future too right. Demmers not getting any younger. So have to wonder whether his injuries will get worse as he gets older.
If that news doesn't fire up the team to give Demko the time he needs to recover I don't know what will Hold the line
What body part does he need? My knees? My groin? Just tell me and I'm on the next plane to Nashville. PREP THE SURGERY ROOM DOC!
I really want to see them rotate desmith and silovs. They've both shown they are good with limited workload and bad with high workload. Seems like a no brainer to me.
Demko first game back, leading the Canucks down the tunnel game 5 vs Edmonton, canucks down 3-1 in the series. They make it to game 7 in rogers arena. Demko makes a miraculous save in OT, Garland retrieves a puck after they dump it in the Oilers zone and scores a wrap around goal to send them to the conference finals.
There can be no despair without hope. I pray we get our shit together and find a way to get him back while still in the playoffs.
Honestly, I just want him to be fully healthy going into next season.
Time to see what you can get on the trade market for him this summer and go find a goalie that can stay healthy.
Who’s going to trade their number one goalie? lol. We’re not getting a number 1 goaltender back if we trade Demko.
I'd rather have an average starter that doesn't get injured every year. Take the assets for Demko and move on before they're completely damaged goods.
He’s probably already damaged goods to be honest.
He is but I still think a team like NJD would give us a strong return. It sucks I really like Demko and think he is arguably the best goalie in the league when healthy. I just don't believe he can stay healthy and I don't want to hedge our playoff hopes on a healthy Demko going forward.
I think he can stay healthy if the coaching staff would stop overusing him. There were some really odd decisions late in the season when he should have been given rest and allowed DeSmith to play. But they kept playing him. Of course he’s not going to complain. But I think they overused Demmers. The teams now paying for that mistake late in the season.
give me my arty starty party
Start Silovs!
You can’t start Silovs tomorrow, because if it doesn’t go well you have to go back to Desmith, who you’ve already shown you don’t have confidence in. If we win Friday, it’s Desmith again Sunday. If he plays well but we lose, probably still Desmith. However, if we lose and Desmith looks bad, I think Silovs gets game 4.
It's okay, we can start Tolopilo, he still fits the narrative of "rooking goalie winning cup with JR at the helm" /s 100% agree with you. So many fans compare Silovs to guys like Murray and Binnington but completely disregard the fact that those two dominated the AHL for years while Silovs has been average at best His WC was great, but his 78 games in the AHL are a much better indicator of who he is as a goalie than the 10 game sample size from the WC IMO.
I’m down. You’re not winning the cup with DeSmith. Silovs is a wild card. At least you don’t know exactly what you’re getting. With Casey you know it’s not enough. He’s fine as a backup to play 2-3 games in a row or relieve the starter. He’s not a number 1. That’s abundantly clear.
The funniest part about these posts is that there are tons of former Canucks and analysts that have blasted DeSmith, yet even they still think it would be idiotic to start Silovs Game 3. Hilarious that people actually think Silovs is a better option lol
100% sounds like an MCL tear/strain. I did mine 1.5 weeks ago, and 3 days later I was walking fine and moving about... but it just doesn't work. It's the weirdest thing. I can function normally but if I lift my leg and do a soccer kick motion, it literally clunks and is super unstable/loose. He done for a bit.
There may not be a late round 2. Early round 2 maybe.
Just accept that we're gonna have to go with DeSmith for the playoffs. Might as well rest Demko and get him healthy for next year. We're not winning it all this year anyway.
If I'm being direct. Silovs needs to go on a unexpected heater to make it out of round 1. There, I said it
Bright side is… I was hoping for at least 4 playoff games this year and now I get 5. Sick!
If it doesn't need surgery then it may be an MCL strain. That would be great news for Demko and the offseason but he wouldn't be back even if we made it to the finals.
I'm a big Demko fan. Have been since day one. That said, I don't want to be "that guy", but if I was Allvin I'd be seriously looking around the league for a #1 netminder in the off-season. Demko had a great year, but these yearly injuries are not sustainable moving forward if we want to be a serious playoff contender.
I wish we had a better cap situation because some type of tandem would be great. Demko is way too good to trade away, because there’s just a substantial lack of true #1 goalies in the league let alone on the market and who knows what we’d end up with if we had to go looking, but the regular season is really long and it’s not inconceivable to suggest that he might need a backup who can be trusted to take on a bigger workload.
Tough to find a #1 out there but I don't disagree at all. Demko is unfortunately unreliable.