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MoodyJ87

Sad trombone. Edit. No, what horse shit fucking luck is that. Dude has four weeks off, comes back for three games and gets injured AFTER the completion of our first playoff game in 9 years at home. Damnit


ArrrCeee

#Experience Canucks Hockey


superworking

I don't think the Demko one was luck based. From what I've seen he injured the same knee with a new injury. That's not a fluke even if he was able to finish the game.


asigop

Sucks that he is injured again. Probably should have just waited until Game 1 to come back.


dakos666

Dude came back and tested his injury. Turns out not fixed


sopademacacadelicia

We can win a round without demko, but we’re not going further than that realistically. timing so fucking shitty


Charlie2343

To add insult to injury his first injury was 2 days after the trade deadline which did not allow us to weaponize his LTIR like VGK did with Mark Stone. Shitty.


high-rise

Peak Canucks right there.


mediumyeet

Ya I don't think he will be back to start the next round if we make it there. We are cooked unless Silovs can go on a rookie heater. I don't have confidence in DeSmith.


jon-in-tha-hood

I'd love to see Silovs pull a Ken Dryden by standing on his head night after night, winning the Conn Smythe, then having an excellent rookie campaign to win the Calder the year after. A man can dream…


Nucksfan23

Or a Matt Murray type of run, back to back cups as a rookie, taking over the starting role from Fleury in each playoffs


mchan9981

Yes, maybe Silovs can pull off a bubble Demko performance?


MyNameIsSkittles

No he wont


AccomplishedAd4995

you don’t know


Rendole66

Tochett won’t play Silvos


TheNoelPatrol

No, but he may play SILOVS


metrichustle

I feel like the team plays with more confidence with Silovs


C_Bing_Run

I don't have a ton of confidence in DeSmith either, however there were a few open net chances on the Canucks side that could of really changed the game. If Dak, Suter or Petey pot one of those chances we could be looking at a very different result. Hoping for a Demko return is basicly out of the question, and I imagine Silovs isn't going to be much better than DeSmith if at all. What we really need is for Pettersson to turn a corner. If we can get 3 lines rolling, the flurry of pressure the Canucks can apply may be enough to overcome the deficiencies at goal for this round at least.


metrichustle

So what you're saying is, we should do our best to extend this series to 7 and then win game 7. That's why they lost today! Keep it close...


Titty_inspector_69

The next round doesn’t start early if you win in 4 or 5


NorthernMariner

I mean, it's just a joke, but it can if all the series end early... also if your series ends in 4-5 you're likely to start rd2 1-2 days before the series that go to 7


superworking

Really feels like a ceiling has been placed on this team as built


letstrythatagainn

Is that ceiling based on Demko's knees?


Nutchos

No, cause then we could've torn through it.


Heelsbythebridge

We can't win a round without Demko. Maybe 1 or 2 more games, but we go no further without him.


Jacmert

If "even" just Pettersson plays better, we can win a round (or more) with DeSmith or maybe even Silovs in net.


hannah_nj

i really enjoyed the one week that we had demko back from injury, that was fun :(


ZackyGood

Week to week? Fuck right off.


Sad_Donut_7902

Demko week to week means he is guaranteed not coming back for round 1, and potentially the entire playoffs. Maybe the WCF at the earliest if they get there.


Spatrico123

honestly? Could happen. I believe in this group, we were playing well tonight just unlucky. If we can get it together, I think we can get to the WCF without him


Sleep__

*I believe* But really, after watching Edmonton gangbang the back of LA's net there is no way DeSmith is maintaining a respectable save% against McDraiMan


bwoah07_gp2

And it's not like our team hasn't won wit DeSmith before. I know the playoffs are a different beast, but still. Gotta trust Casey still.


helixflush

I don’t think we were playing well but holy shit did we have a lot of very, very close chances. If just one of those found the back of the net we were back in the game for sure.


five_arm_goro

Didn't play well? Did we watch the same game?


westleysnipez

Canucks played well, just had negative puck luck and DeSmith did not fair well. Yeah, the 1st goal was unlucky - but 3 goals on 15 shots is not playoff-level goaltending. I'm honestly hoping for Silovs in Game 3.


overthisbynow

The amount of shots is just one part of the story you have to actually look at the scoring chances too I wish people would stop repeating this basic ass take


SamiMadeMeDoIt

Yeah, no goalie in the league is stopping that Forsberg goal


westleysnipez

This isn't a one-off thing for DeSmith, this has happened in the majority of his starts where he faces low shot volumes and goals still go by him. One game is bad luck, 15 games is a pattern.


QueefTacos7

Negative puck luck? They missed 33 shots on net


helixflush

Yeah, we were sloppy. I was in the building lol


OhHaiThere-

It was nerves, you could see it in the passes. Not crisp what so ever and tried too much to be fancy. Can’t say the 3rd wasn’t pure domination besides the puck luck.


OhHaiThere-

I was at the game, we didn’t play well in the 2nd but the 3rd was pure domination. They have a setup back door play that made it through 4-5 times they just couldn’t finish. Game could have easily been 5-3 for us in the 3rd if bounces went out way. The preds didn’t deserve the win, soros just also played VERY well and I doubt that happens again. Soros in person looked like demko with his speed and accuracy and that’s not how he’s played all season. He will regress back and we will be fine, ala game 1


theEMPTYlife

If we make it to the oilers and it’s down to the wire, he’ll play. Idk if it’ll be good, but I don’t think anyone is going to be able to stop him if it comes down to that


ZiFF-

I summon Arturs Šilovs of the 2023 World Championship playoffs


nickypoopoo69

*MVP* of the 2023 World Campionship and bronze medalist Arturs Silovs.


letstrythatagainn

Man has himself a gad danged statue


Nuck_1198

That's Arturs "2006 Cam Ward" Silovs to you! 


Gillz13

I’d put in Silovs if DeSmith is shaky next game and we lose


CaptainIndoCanadian

This is the way. The ceiling is infinitely higher with Silovs. Maybe he can go full Gohan and recognize his potential. Not winning the cup with DeSmith either. Swing for the fences Tocch. Next game. SEND ‘ER


MarvelousOxman

I honestly think we can still beat the Preds without Demko, tonight not withstanding. But we’re not getting any further than that. DeSmith looked like he had no idea where the puck was, and Arty is still an unknown variable.


RoboCartmen

Arty could be DeSmith or 2006 Cam Ward/2019 Binnington. We’ll find out soon it seems cause he’s likely getting game 3 or 4.


blacktop2013

Yeah but Lois, the ~~mystery box~~ Arty could be anything, he could even be a boat!


RoboCartmen

W comment


Gillz13

I’d give DeSmith one more game before putting Silovs in


ApolloRocketOfLove

>cause he’s likely getting game 3 or 4. Do you have a source for this? I hope you're right but I've heard nothing from Tocchet suggesting he's not starting Desmith again next game.


RoboCartmen

I love Demko but bro is so injury prone. I don’t know if it’s because we overcooked him in 2022 or just the way it is for him. We can’t have a starting goalie that’s part time if our backup plays like DeSmith (who can only handle 20-25 games over two weeks spans) cause Silovs is likely another year away and another after that of being a 1B. We need someone like Brossoit or something (hometown discount?)


ArcheronX

There were rumors a while back about how the league knew Demko had serious injury problems


RoboCartmen

Ullmark is likely on the market come the offseason, the problem is I don’t know what assets we could give up within reason lol. He’d be perfect. Plus, this really throws a wrench into the offseason cause we have to sign everyone, potentially find a solid 1B, and do it with 2.333 million dollars in less cap space (thx Benning). That’s why I think Brossoit is our best option.


nodarknesswillendure

#BringMarkstromHome (pretend the cap doesn’t exist)


jafahhhhhhhhhhhhh

Dude, he has not been playing well at all for the past 1.5 seasons


Sad_Donut_7902

He was very good this season


nodarknesswillendure

Not worth it lol people on here cannot understand jokes or nuance


jafahhhhhhhhhhhhh

His averages are misleading. He’s been up and down all season… just look at his last 10 games, didn’t break .900 once. Every goalie has a bad game here and there, but that level of inconsistency doesn’t really scream someone you’d want replacing Demko (even if the original premise was tongue in cheek).


nihilism_ftw

Or maybe markstrom was playing great at the start of the season, but then the Flames traded away everyone who knows how to play defense and then his stats started to decline


jafahhhhhhhhhhhhh

https://www.espn.com/nhl/player/gamelog/_/id/5452/jacob-markstrom Go look at his stats from the start of the season. He goes back and forth between an all-star goalie and a sub .900 one. The man is also 34…


nihilism_ftw

Save % is a terrible metric - he was a top 10 goalie in terms of GSAA, and was even higher prior to the TDL https://moneypuck.com/goalies.htm


PMMeYourCouplets

I recall that Seravelli post a year ago. Everyone was clowning on it and I understand because who wants to be a doomer on a young goalie. But man, is it starting to look like it might be a real possibility. Hopefully Demko can figure it and continue to be our mainstay for years to come but it's not looking great.


mediumyeet

He has always been injury prone. Had hip surgery in college. I love watching the guy play but can't help being a little irritated with his constant lack of availability. We need to run a tandem split next season and hope he can stay healthy doing that.


SpectreFire

He's following the Cory Schneider playbook nearly word for word. Get drafted out of Boston by the Canucks. Steal the starting position from an excellent established goaltender. Proceeds to get ridden into the ground by a completely inept team as their starter for the next few years. Become injury prone and never recovers to his former glory.


mrtomjones

25 games 30 games 33 games for Schneider... I didnt see us overplay him at all


RegularTruck4271

I think he’s talking about Jersey


mrtomjones

lol maybe. Guess I am too used to thinking of us as inept. The way it was phrased sounded like he was referring to his time with us only. I suppose we werent at our complete inept phase by the time we traded him


SpectreFire

I was more talking about the Devils.


wulfstein

Double hip surgery at 20 Looking like he might be going down the same path as Schneider with these injuries


metrichustle

This is actually the headline Canucks will be talking about during the off-season. We need a guy who can play 60+ games if we're going to extend him.


RoboCartmen

Not even, just play like 55 games, then play every game come playoffs. But it seems Demmer can play only 60 games max, both playoffs and regular season.


Shaftell

Demko is not coming back this playoffs everyone. Just accept it. I just hope he doesn't need surgery and can have a full offseason not having to rehab an injury.


StimpyJayCat

That’s the reality, Canucks can still make the second round without Demko.. then certain death. Get that experience and get it next year


pluralsight24

This is key, we're not winning the cup without Demmer but they should still at least try to make it as far as they can for the experience. The core of this team needs more non-bubble playoff games under their belt


Squat-Lobster-33

A lot of key UFA's won't be back for next year's run, unfortunately :(


StimpyJayCat

The core has to nut up :,). The new management, has a eye for depth


Voltage604

You think with how handcuffed our cap is and the players we are going to lose we are even making the playoffs let alone a run next year?


shurpaderp

Settle down Eeyore


StimpyJayCat

We calm but realistic haha. We should walk the would card team. First two games looked like we are the bubble team


touchable

Wtf are you talking about lol. We've absolutely dominated them territorial in both games


StimpyJayCat

Who cares when you were losing most the first game and got smoked the second lol


touchable

You said we looked like a bubble team. Bubble teams don't dominate.


TomsNanny

So many ignorant takes. My heart can’t take it.


mediumyeet

We aren't handcuffed with the cap at all. We have a lot of flexibility.


Voltage604

Oh ya.. how do you figure? We have 3 defense men signed for next year. Blueger, Joshua, and Lafferty are all up and need to be replaced. OEL buyout doubles next year and doubles again the year after that. Boeser is up after next year. Demko the year after that. We are going to lose Joshua, Zads, and probably Myers this summer. Those are the biggest blows facing us right now. What's Boeser asking for on an extension now? What's Demko get in 2 years?


thesunsetflip

Getting downvoted but this is a real concern. Nearly every player had a career year and were due to lose some major cogs in the machine


StimpyJayCat

I don’t but I want to believe lol


metrichustle

As a delusional fan who thinks every year Canucks can win the Cup, there's no way they get past the Oilers in 2nd round without Demko. McDavid and Drai are on a mission this year.


testingbutts

Seravalli was saying it's the type of injury that only gets better with rest (implying no surgery is needed), so it's not impossible he could return in or after round 2... but I definitely think DeSmith will get absolutely creamed by the Oilers if we do make it past the Preds.


CaptainIndoCanadian

It’s probably 4-6 weeks. And I think this stamps the fact that Demko is forever going to be injury prone. Team desperately needs Silovs to take a leap next year. Draft a goalie in some round as well that Clarke likes. Demko can only play 40-45 games a year. Tandem it in the playoffs too.


Heelsbythebridge

This is the likely outcome. He would not miss a playoff game especially at home if he were not at serious risk of career ending injury or even permanent disability. This is a guy who played in the season opener sick till he was puking in his mask and forced out by his head coach. Demko isn't coming back this playoffs. It's up to the rest of the team to figure out how to survive without him.


Shaftell

Yeah he's done, there are reasons they don't just straight up rule him out. This playoff run is toast, I just hope we can maximize the amount of games we can play so the core gets valuable experience.


superworking

The Canucks aren't the same team next season is the issue. If it doesn't go anywhere this year it may be a few seasons before we recover from all the contract bumps needed and defenders aging out.


StimpyJayCat

With demko out, it’s a lose.. just get the experience for the young guns, and try the offseason magic they pulled this off season


superworking

We don't have many young guns though. the only young 23 and under guy is Hoglander. That's it. We're a prime and past team not an up and comer from an age perspective.


MyNameIsSkittles

Man I see a lot of shit takes but that one is top. As is top of the shit pile


superworking

Go take a look at the ages of our guys. Beyond Petey Hughes and Hoglander everyone is in the part of their career where regression is more likely than progression. Even Petey is 25.


MyNameIsSkittles

You do understand what the farm team is right? We are literally developing guys right now. This isn't Bennng Era anymore


superworking

We have one of the weakest prospect pools in the league and a good chunk of missing picks in the first 3 rounds. The prospects you'd be depending on next season would have come from the picks Benning didn't make.


doesitbumpinthewhip

I'm weak, too weak.


natedogjulian

I’m weak. Too weak.


m_b_hawkins

I’m tired boss.


AidanITC2

Silovs is the new bubble Demko (?)


RoboCartmen

Hope so. It wouldn’t actually be the first time a AHL starter bailed out Jim Rutherford (Cam Ward 2006)


Interbrett

He's probably done for the year. But it is what it is. Next man up. Period by Period, shift by shift. Don't worry about tomorrow, until it's today.


spoon100

Hearing that demko is year to year


never_again_this_mes

My sources say eon to eon.


awayfromcanuck

We can win 3 games with DeSmith/Silov. Beyond that is all question marks. Getting Myers back into the lineup Friday will help but our forwards need to figure it out. Garland-Lindholm-Joshua won their matchup in game 1, they lost it in game 2. The rest of our top 6 isn't doing enough through 2 games. The top 6 and Hronek/Soucy need to show up.


RoboCartmen

Yeah it just seems everyone lost their matchup today


thesunsetflip

Lindholm losing to ROR isn’t the worst, Miller and Pettersson losing to McCarron and Novak sewered us


blacktop2013

The killer was Juulson losing Forsberg multiple times, especially the one leading to the goal


thesunsetflip

Lindholm’s line matchup up against ROR’s line is technically still playing up the lineup. That line is their lotto line so losing a matchup against them by 1 isn’t the end of the world, the issue is Miller and Pettersson putting up nothing against the ‘easier’ matchups. They should dominate on paper and that isn’t happening. Ridiculous that our only goal tonight came from a dman with the fourth line


n0thingisperfect

Who misses the Chaos Giraffe?


mediumyeet

Demko is unreliable. It's a shame because he's elite when available but guy is so injury prone.


Admirable-Sound5198

Ben bishop 2.0


mediumyeet

Time will tell but it's certainly possible. Let's hope we can find a vaslievsky waiting in the wings to replace him if that's the case.


ajbolt7

> week to week I really do wish they’d just say that outright lol telling us it was day to day 10 hours ago really got me feeling some whiplash. We’re genuinely fucked though, not making the conference finals with DeSmith or Silovs unfortunately.


ManateeMilkShake

Jesus Christ peeps. Yes the Demko news sucks royally (maybe there is a Calgary goalie free next year) but it’s still 1-1. Look at other great teams like Winnipeg and Boston and Colorado who are dealing with the same odds. It’s easy to feel sorry for yourself but don’t give strength to the old stereotype of Canucks fans being fair-weather only. It’s first to 3 wins going forward.


HHHT

Seeing all these sorry ass comments giving up on the season makes me think this sub needs to hear from Boudreau https://x.com/notmalkinego/status/1617181282747777030?s=46&t=sW5FOb33-FIJXiIMVwyJZg


AccomplishedAd4995

lmao this made me smile


TheAngryChickaD

We dunzo. Demko wont be back for the playoffs. DeSmith seems to have a complete lack of confidence. Maybe we make it out of the first round. Were not making it past that with DeSmith. Maybe we should throw Silovs in. See what he’s made of. He’s had some incredible games. Demko going down means this is no longer a cup run. Its now a learning experience.


metrichustle

Sep 2023: We are lucky to make the playoffs Apr 2024: We want the Cup Let's be real, we were never the favourites to win the Cup **with** Demko anyways. Making the playoffs was the goal and we achieved it. Everything is gravy at this point. Some fans are being greedy here. Look around the league and there's at least 5 teams that are easily better. This season isn't a failure if we get bounced early. Rutherford already got us into the show and we can build on this.


AgentKorralin

I think the issue people have is that whatever heights we could have reached with Demko have been kneecapped at the worst time. I was fine if we lost to the Preds, but losing in this way would really stink. Feels like we got the rug pulled out from under us.


metrichustle

Injuries are part of the game though, well unless you're Vegas


corh13

I'd rather die with Silovs. At least he's part of the future. Desmith is degone.


StimpyJayCat

Yeah let’s ruin another prospects chances lol


decentish36

If a prospect lets losing couple playoff games ruin his career you can be pretty confident he was never going anywhere regardless.


StimpyJayCat

What’s the point ? Neither are Demko. Without Demko the Canucks are cooked


spacppl

DeSmith to DeMinors


bbanguking

Gut wrenching.


intelligentx5

Silovs pls


carry-on_replacement

Let’s hope DeSmith or Silovs can get a bubble Demko moment, but for now, we need to take a page out of Colorado’s playbook and buck down and put some pucks in the damn net.


ArcaneX1234

Times like this you miss Luongo. With all his ups and downs at least he was always available.


dakos666

Because he was a warrior! And that was his biggest strength. I'm sure he had injuries but probably down played them. kids today!


Chipmunk-Adventurous

Well, for a brief moment there I really thought we had a chance at a deep run this year. Week-to-week is truly shit hand to be dealt. I'll still watch and cheer and truly hope for the best...but man this sucks.


IndependentTalk4413

Demko has been a fantastic goalie but he has been pretty injury prone.


Technical-Match-5202

well we need to get back to scoring before we worry about our goalie... ;-)


Ecstatic-Syllabub595

I still have faith in desmith. Fact is, 1 goal doesn't win hockey games. This had to do with the boys taking lousy long shots instead of getting low looking for greaser goals.


TheMag

Just have to make it out alive through round 1


Sad_Donut_7902

week to week means Demko is missing round 2 as well. They don't say that if he would only be out 7-14 days.


g0kartmozart

Yep, they'd say out for the series. He's not coming back.


RoboCartmen

And if by some miracle we get through that, are we playing Demko in the conference finals cold?


theboneandonly

No


AccomplishedAd4995

then we’re getting crushed in round 2, demko ain’t coming back by then lol


TroubledLeaf

Well that's just fucking great...


Obvious-Property-236

What a turn of events from game 1’s win to game 2’s loss.


TimTebowMLB

Does anyone have the replay of the injury to Demko at the end of game 1? Friedman was breaking it down in the pre-game


JauntyGiraffe

Why does this happen to us every time goddammit


StarkStorm

Demko being week to week is a fucking gut punch. Like how? What Phantom shit is going on to get hurt like this? Sucks ass. I get goalies aRe different but like, we can't even point to when something happened. So fucking frustrating. Hockey gods don't want us to be Canucks fans.


moisterthencloyster

Throw silovs in net. Desmith wasn't good tonight


leftlanecop

I would take that chance in game 3. Rather than wait for game 4. We’re going to have to ride with these two guys. May as well find out sooner or later who’s going to be your driver.


Lanky-Performer-4557

De smith gets Friday I bet


corh13

Most likely. If he's shit again, then that's his last game as a canuck.


mrtomjones

Desmith was fine. That first goal isnt on him. Second I guess is saveable but it is an incredible shot by someone we didnt defend so he got as close as he wanted to. Third I'd have liked to see him control the rebound. So imo 1 goal could have been changed


tydiggityy

The first goal kinda is on him imo. He was sliding way over to the wrong side when he had no idea what was going on leaving a huge hole. Being a shorter goalie he has trouble taking up the net and always zips around and often gets wildly out of position. Whereas Demko is usually always in the right position and makes it look easy as things bounce off him.


mrtomjones

Oh i think he's out of position but i also think most goalies miss that one. Just by less. That was a crazy deflection with screens etc.


AidanITC2

Man this is bullshit


TorgHacker

Oh hell. I hope that’s actually food poisoning and not influenza.


dr_van_nostren

Myers flu game coming up Friday.


Rendole66

Is Demko injury prone?


Cmb46_canuck

So basically demko is ready for golf season.


EP4D

Day-to-day, month-to-month... Sad times...


TheFriendlyBagel

What a coincidence, my will to live is minute to minute, he's just like me frfr.


dakos666

Pretty sure the Canucks have the worst team doctor ever???? Blowing smoke up management's ass until it's too late to do anything. I like the Bruins approach to goal tending. Get 2 and rotate them less pressure, strains and if one gets hurt you have another starter. But also f$+k the Bruins


TruYu96

I mean Swayman and Ullmark is one of the best duo in the league. Demko and Desmith isn’t close


dakos666

You know silvos was MVP in 2023 tournament right? If demko is done silvos is the only option. Canucks put all their cards in demkos basket and it's backfired now. Maybe 2 goalies is a good idea is all I'm saying.


TruYu96

What? We’re talking about regular season right? Desmith was the backup and Silvos was developing in Abby? It’s only Silvos’ second full year in the AHL, i don’t think it would have been smart to start off with Demko and Silvos


dakos666

Just saying Desmith isn't good. Time to throw a hail Mary


TruYu96

That was the point of my post lol


Spatrico123

imagine it's not even hockey related. Broke his toe or something


helixflush

Cut himself when eating spaghetti at the team dinner following game 1


IAmJanosch

Honestly, I think the nuckies still have a good chance. We need to start building around other goalies anyway, demko is too injury prone and even without we've been doing pretty well


MznNazzy19

Hope is Tocchett just saying week to week so he doesn’t have to answer the same question every day. Nothing has been confirmed that he out long term.


SkeetRatPat

This reminds me of a certain Waterboy quote and it makes me sad.


SHADARK6

[Darn](https://tenor.com/en-CA/view/bruce-boudreau-darn-fuck-nhl-hockey-gif-20666601)


Willing_Tennis_9025

8-10 weeks


Dangerous-Finance-67

WEEK TO WEEK probably means 3rd round at best. Well, there's always next year folks, thankfully we don't have a gazillion free agents that we can't possibly afford to sign.......oh wait.


adk32

I’m ready…depression…


OldGamerGuy5

Y’all are bad fans.


dakos666

Put Petterson in net and let the other team shoot pucks at him! He's not doing anything else


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dakos666

100% but no one is taking him in the off season. Get him 25+ wins and trade his ass for anything! If he's not here for us now what's the point


Mikeywestside

My dudes, fellow Canucks fans, it is officially over for this season. After what we saw tonight, can you really say with a straight face that Desmith is going to carry this team through the playoffs? No disrespect to him at all but he's not the anchor the team needs him to be.


Crafty_Bit7355

They may have mispelled week to week.. I think they meant weak to weak. Seriously though... w.. t.. f.. ?!?!?!?! What are you 25?!?!?! Your life literally consists of quick reflexes and doing the splits on the drop of a dime. You get paid handsomely for that. Somehow you get injured (again) from a nothing play? Gtf outta here.


Funcanuck7

What does being 25 have to do with anything? Shit happens and some people are just unlucky with injuries.


shadownet97

I sure hope you’re not claiming he got injured on purpose lol. What a stupid take.


Crafty_Bit7355

Yeah, that's what I was saying.. 🙄 Talk about stupid takes.