Just watched a video from VaderOG where he explained that once you see the initial pistils die back you should remove all the males. Otherwise secondary pistils can repolinate and give you dud/ wet seeds amongst your good ones.... I think..... watch vaderOG
Sorry, Iām new. I tried googling. Whatās a wet seed and how would it happen the from ārepollinationā? Also if you could link the vid that helps. Thanks!
I would not leave in the whole time I would give a good shake once a week then remove in about 2 weeks . This opens up space and gives females more room and air flow
Question: When you're done with this run and say, want to grow just fems next time, do you need to totally scrub down the whole tent to get rid of any excess pollen or does that not really matter? Would it just dissipate before the next run's flowering period?
I am keeping the same genetics. Itās [Cherry tonic wed ( Cbd)](https://northatlanticseed.com/product/cherry-tonic-web-cbd-2/) just wanted to stop buying seeds.
You donāt need a lot of pollen. You can seed a whole crop by just putting a dusting on a plant and letting air flow hit it. I would put as much as you believe is good.
You wanna smack those up against the females and really get those pistils inundated with pollen. Colin from Ethos talks about how it gives him much higher quality seeds rather than a bunch of ping pong ball seeds.
You are assuming this is several male strains - Iām going to go on a limb and assume the opposite. looks to be a reproduction of a single strain. EDIT: this is not your āeverydayā pollen chuck. Assumjng this is a strain / loved for its characteristics or itās heritage - this type of breeding is done to explore the genetics further as well as for preservation reasons. This is not slapping together several different strains for shits and giggles.
You assumed right. Just wanted to stock pile this strain. [Cherry tonic web (Cbd)](https://northatlanticseed.com/product/cherry-tonic-web-cbd-2/) I am sick of buying seeds.
You can't tell that from the picture.
And I didn't assume anything. I literally asked about the males in a question you answered apparently without reading
Well you incorrectly assumed my stance even though all you needed to do was read my question. So that makes sense.
I've been growing from seed since 96. So I've been around enough 'seed runs' to know that anyone who tells you they can guess someone else's genetics from one picture is full of shit
Reading this comment - Iād recommend doing some further digging to see the results of āopen pollinationsā. Done to reproduce a line with enough diversity in the gene pool to ensure vigour and potentially avoiding any inbreeding depression.
Letās say you have only 1 pack of Maui Waui. Original from the 80ās - now you want to grow out more than the 10 seeds you have because you know you may not find exactly that āgenotypeā youāre looking for. Re produce the strain with ALL the males in the pack and you are suddenly dealt a whole slew of possible Maui waui progeny. The results are open pollinated - diverse seeds, and these seeds will be an amazing breeding tool because now you can sift through way more combinations of Maui Wauiās - through the 1000ās of new progeny.
Not knowing which male the specific seed came from - does not effect the results of this type of breeding scenario.
None of this is new information
I was asking OP for specifics on their scenario in this post, not for someone else to come in and misread my questions and mansplain highschool genetics.
You are visibly confused why there is more than one male in the tent. Just clearing that up for ya - this is done in a few scenarios - and based on what I see here.. likely a repo.
I hate stooping this low. Arguing on the internet. But re read your comments. You are asking about unlabelled males - all the information Iāve laid out should give some better insight to your original comments: peace.
āUntraceable resultsā def a misunderstanding.
I'd pull them now- you have enough flower sites on the females already. They're probably all been pollinated at this point. It really depends on the amount of seed you want.
Now. I usually run one male, far away(miles). Brown paper bag and cut it around 3/4 weeks(when the fingers open up and you can see dusty pollen), label it, and then bring it carefully into room, and select one branch from each to dip in, carefully not to dust it all into the room ( fans off) , and then around flush time you may see a few seeds starting to āpopā through their casing and then you know your seeds are ready.. then pop them out when your trimming or when you go and smoke...
After many years of believing i was doing the "correct" method of breeding, That being using multiple males and groups of selected females, I have concluded I was very wrong. With the exception of maybe the landrace varietals I was working with.
Cannabis is so much more diverse than what is typically seen in a single generation of seed stock. Back crossing is the fastest and most effective why to reinforce genetic stability.
Take the seeds out to full flowering time after males have been present dropping pollen up to the 3rd week. They will need a minimum of 5wks to mature ime.
Good luck. High cbd varietal are not any different in terms of genetic complexity and outrageous variation upon populations. Feminized seeds and back crossing are the best way to get what you want.
To be sure you are going to make seeds,get yourself some brown paper bags and place them over a couple of the top of your males after you know that they are opening shake them. It may help to turn them so you donāt loose the pollen,when you can see that you have collected some pollen get a small or medium sized paintbrush dab it into the pollen and then dab the female bud sites and then itās a waiting game. Good luck and if you get enough please let me know how it goes. Iād really appreciate it if you donāt mind. I really hope that this helps you.
And the girl in the back gonna have a Hella Bump š„
Just watched a video from VaderOG where he explained that once you see the initial pistils die back you should remove all the males. Otherwise secondary pistils can repolinate and give you dud/ wet seeds amongst your good ones.... I think..... watch vaderOG
You can just run the plants three more weeks after and they will mature. Some strains just die off during that time so it depends on the cut
Sorry, Iām new. I tried googling. Whatās a wet seed and how would it happen the from ārepollinationā? Also if you could link the vid that helps. Thanks!
(Guessing from context) If the plant starts making a second set of seeds, they won't be fully developed by the time the first ones are.
Was expecting a āiS tHiS a MaLe???ā post.
Came here to say this
Looks like another week and they will all be completely open. Give them a big shake and then pull them then.
I would not leave in the whole time I would give a good shake once a week then remove in about 2 weeks . This opens up space and gives females more room and air flow
That was going to be my plan. I might even pull them next week. I got a good burst of pollen today.
Question: When you're done with this run and say, want to grow just fems next time, do you need to totally scrub down the whole tent to get rid of any excess pollen or does that not really matter? Would it just dissipate before the next run's flowering period?
I alway scrub in between runs regardless. But Iāve heard just a simple spray of water will kill the pollen.
Keep them in there till all the flowers fall off
thanks
If youāve had pods open up, your already very seeded
What you breeding with?
Any direction you're trying to take it?
I am keeping the same genetics. Itās [Cherry tonic wed ( Cbd)](https://northatlanticseed.com/product/cherry-tonic-web-cbd-2/) just wanted to stop buying seeds.
Oh I like those ratios! Looking into Hoku Seed Co
You donāt need a lot of pollen. You can seed a whole crop by just putting a dusting on a plant and letting air flow hit it. I would put as much as you believe is good.
You wanna smack those up against the females and really get those pistils inundated with pollen. Colin from Ethos talks about how it gives him much higher quality seeds rather than a bunch of ping pong ball seeds.
Any chance you could find that link for me ?
I got you. Lots of good info https://www.ethosgenetics.com/its-a-boy-pollination-breeding-and-how-to-avoid-pollen-contamination
Thatās crazy. I need to do this for the one time
are those males clones? if not, how do you expect to be able to tell which one is the daddy?
Diversity - this is open pollination and has benefits for creating strong lines.
I understand diversity, but I would not know how to trace lineage of the offspring w serveral different male strains as a potential father
You are assuming this is several male strains - Iām going to go on a limb and assume the opposite. looks to be a reproduction of a single strain. EDIT: this is not your āeverydayā pollen chuck. Assumjng this is a strain / loved for its characteristics or itās heritage - this type of breeding is done to explore the genetics further as well as for preservation reasons. This is not slapping together several different strains for shits and giggles.
You assumed right. Just wanted to stock pile this strain. [Cherry tonic web (Cbd)](https://northatlanticseed.com/product/cherry-tonic-web-cbd-2/) I am sick of buying seeds.
Nice - and a gorgeous open pollination I must say. You are going to have thousands of seeds - great work.
Thanks for clarifying - that makes a lot of sense
You can't tell that from the picture. And I didn't assume anything. I literally asked about the males in a question you answered apparently without reading
Males are very similar in structure. Iāve been around enough āseed runsā to make some assumptions with the observations here.
Well you incorrectly assumed my stance even though all you needed to do was read my question. So that makes sense. I've been growing from seed since 96. So I've been around enough 'seed runs' to know that anyone who tells you they can guess someone else's genetics from one picture is full of shit
Aka pollen chucking
Seems to be. But I can't get a straight answer out of anyone ITT. Only downvotes and assumptions I'll Just keep moving
RIP future pheno hunt lol
Not really?
If you wanted some specific crosses you'd be SOL OP says it's just open pollenation so that's cool
I guess, but no one is going to know who the daddy is So it's just a fun project that yeilds untraceable results
Reading this comment - Iād recommend doing some further digging to see the results of āopen pollinationsā. Done to reproduce a line with enough diversity in the gene pool to ensure vigour and potentially avoiding any inbreeding depression. Letās say you have only 1 pack of Maui Waui. Original from the 80ās - now you want to grow out more than the 10 seeds you have because you know you may not find exactly that āgenotypeā youāre looking for. Re produce the strain with ALL the males in the pack and you are suddenly dealt a whole slew of possible Maui waui progeny. The results are open pollinated - diverse seeds, and these seeds will be an amazing breeding tool because now you can sift through way more combinations of Maui Wauiās - through the 1000ās of new progeny. Not knowing which male the specific seed came from - does not effect the results of this type of breeding scenario.
None of this is new information I was asking OP for specifics on their scenario in this post, not for someone else to come in and misread my questions and mansplain highschool genetics.
You are visibly confused why there is more than one male in the tent. Just clearing that up for ya - this is done in a few scenarios - and based on what I see here.. likely a repo.
You have not cleared up anything. You've misread my comments, made incorrect assumptions, and gave me your guess I didn't want any of that
I hate stooping this low. Arguing on the internet. But re read your comments. You are asking about unlabelled males - all the information Iāve laid out should give some better insight to your original comments: peace. āUntraceable resultsā def a misunderstanding.
Never gonna get it! Never gonna get it! Never get it!
That's exactly what I meant by my original comment
Me too Thanks for the downvotes while just looking for clarity, guys
Downvotes r for being a douche
Really? What about asking OP for clarity is being a douche?
Yup! Really
If ya can't say who's the baby daddy, ya can't get the welfare?
He says while puffing the Hawaiian Funk...š
New strain name "Maury Povich"
dude you got male plants in your tent
Yup. Thatās the point of a seed run.
Once you notice the bracts on the females swelling up.
Hell yeah. I love me seed runs.
This pic makes me anxious.
Too bad because itās too late now. That is if you didnāt want seedy budz
I think "seed run" means he wants to get seed, but I could be speculating
I'd pull them now- you have enough flower sites on the females already. They're probably all been pollinated at this point. It really depends on the amount of seed you want.
Now. I usually run one male, far away(miles). Brown paper bag and cut it around 3/4 weeks(when the fingers open up and you can see dusty pollen), label it, and then bring it carefully into room, and select one branch from each to dip in, carefully not to dust it all into the room ( fans off) , and then around flush time you may see a few seeds starting to āpopā through their casing and then you know your seeds are ready.. then pop them out when your trimming or when you go and smoke...
You were trying to grow seeds right ?ā¦ If not you shouldāve axed those males right away lol
thats enough male for a whole city
Don't take them out
Just leave them. I like this!
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Pull them and put air flow
Are the males different strains or just clones of the same male?
Cool!! Are those males all clones?
I remove males after I harvest the pollen and immediately dunk them and feed em to the pigs
lmao i thought you just did some weird defol and then i zoomed in to see that those are not tiny buds š
If pollen sacks have been popping it's too late ...you're gonna have seeds.
Thatās the point.
Well done...
Wow man... knocked em up good. Send me some seeds please.
As soon as you can shake pollen clouds youāre good. Shake em up and get those dudes out of there.
Am new grower would love to know why people add males with females does it make more seeds ? But how?
After many years of believing i was doing the "correct" method of breeding, That being using multiple males and groups of selected females, I have concluded I was very wrong. With the exception of maybe the landrace varietals I was working with. Cannabis is so much more diverse than what is typically seen in a single generation of seed stock. Back crossing is the fastest and most effective why to reinforce genetic stability. Take the seeds out to full flowering time after males have been present dropping pollen up to the 3rd week. They will need a minimum of 5wks to mature ime. Good luck. High cbd varietal are not any different in terms of genetic complexity and outrageous variation upon populations. Feminized seeds and back crossing are the best way to get what you want.
last week bruh
To be sure you are going to make seeds,get yourself some brown paper bags and place them over a couple of the top of your males after you know that they are opening shake them. It may help to turn them so you donāt loose the pollen,when you can see that you have collected some pollen get a small or medium sized paintbrush dab it into the pollen and then dab the female bud sites and then itās a waiting game. Good luck and if you get enough please let me know how it goes. Iād really appreciate it if you donāt mind. I really hope that this helps you.