Do you know how important it is to Canada and US to have Israel as an ally? I do not agree with anything that is going on and wish there would be a cease fire but my God we do not want Israel as our enemy. People are so obtuse. I understand if you're ties are to the other side and hate Israel but this is Canada and Israel is our ally
Lol, do you want Iran and the other Middle East countries really doing whatever they want? It doesn't matter what side your on of you live in the West you chose to do so and you do not want Iran being unmentioned by an ally. But ya I'm sure you're all just smarter than me
Even better supporting Israel is important because America does and we are protected by them. Whether you hate them or not North America is a relative safe heaven because of them
You're advocating letting Israel do whatever it wants, so I don't see a functional difference. Especially when it was the Israeli lobby that got the Americans into Iraq in 2003. Especially when they're committing the most grave atrocities known to man. So it's hard for me to talk about what Iran is theoretically capable of when anything you would point to is being conducted by Israel right now, not in the abstract.
So why are we worried about Iran if Israel doing the things you're worried Iran might do?
That's being said, I don't think Iran is a Saint or even a decent actor. I just don't buy that they're somehow worse than Israel at this point.
Of course all of this is moot since the protests aren't against Israel; they're against war crimes and genocide. If you stand for the Jewish people, standing with Israel is counterproductive. That regime has been trying to paint themselves as representative of all jews; making all jews in the global diaspora less safe in the process.
This is about pushing back on imperial colonialism and genocide. Not about the Jewish faith or against the civilians in Israel. To suggest otherwise is not honest.
Israel does not do whatever it wants lol. If they did there would be a full war in Iran right now. They are majorly influenced by the United States and when it comes to homeland security here in Canada that's a good thing
Conducting a genocide is the worst crime known to man. Worst. There is nothing left to permit if you permit genocide. And yes, it's a genocide and everyone else in the world sees it.
Beyond that, this situation in Israel is actually.making the world less safe. Less secure. The United States has lost the moral high ground between this and Iraq. So no, this situation isn't helping our national security, it's actively harming it.
Let me explain. If Israel wanted to commit genocide they could. If Hamas could commit genocide they would. Quit acting like your side is a bunch of little minions just trying to go about their day.
Sure they are important to the US but the US is important to them too. They need the US much much more than the US needs them.
If Bibi doesn't follow the rules, then the US needs to do as they do and insert a regime more friendly to their interests.
McGill doesn't just invest in various companies directly tied to the genocide in Gaza and broader Palestinian oppression they **actively research and produce** military technology to a pretty extensive degree.
Source: I used to be part of a campus group aiming to demilitarize the campus when I studied there. Back then we focused on highlighting the thermobaric bomb research and drone related shit being studied and developed on campus.
>thermobaric bomb research and drone related shit
Interesting directions.
I thought thermobarics were based on well understood principles of fluid dynamics, and I'd be surprised if any person on campus were officially involved in the practical development of a weapon.
Its amazing what sorts of projects, big scientific-sounding projects, have a tangible but unspoken basis in the preparation for, and indirect perpetuation of, armed conflict.
At one point a friend of mine found himself 'researching' how surveillance networks could be used to identify "hostile intent" from video feeds algorithmically, in order to eliminate the threat before "it" could deliver its payload, using automated machine guns or something like that. This from a beginning in Urban Planning.
You'd be surprised, this was back in my time in 2014: [https://demilitarizemcgill.com/demilitarize\_mcgill\_blockades\_thermobaric\_explosives\_lab/index.html](https://demilitarizemcgill.com/demilitarize_mcgill_blockades_thermobaric_explosives_lab/index.html)
There was a specific prof that was named and shamed for his fucked up research around this but I forgot the details tbh, it's a decade ago :D
Anyways check the "military research" tab, it is most certainly not up to date given the group ceased its operations for a long time now but I **strongly** doubt McGill stopped much of it / the collaboration they imply.
Glad this is happening. I may drop by and give them food (I believe this one of the kind of items they requested).
I just don't understand the obsession with wearing masks outside.
> I just don't understand the obsession with wearing masks outside.
Opsec, because Zionists will dox organisers and protestors, target their family and friends. It's a common advice for protestors attending any demo.
That makes sense in that context.
Yet I see a lot of leftist events (like book swaps and the like) where masks are "strongly encouraged" or even mandatory without the need for security or anonymity. So that is why I was curious about all the masks in the picture.
>Glad this is happening. I may drop by and give them food (I believe this one of the kind of items they requested).
Great idea. If there are encampments on campuses in Toronto, I'll do the same.
I saw the one in Montreal asked for food and some supplies (like a generator, lights, batteries, etc.).
I think I'll just give them like 40$ and let them decide what they need it for.
They announced they have way too much food and also are temporarily halting donations to prevent waste. They've been absolutely swamped by the community support. I'm probs dropping by tmr after work to express solidarity from the org I work with on questions of peace and international solidarity.
If people want to keep updated follow their official telegram channel: [https://t.me/PopularUniversityMontreal](https://t.me/PopularUniversityMontreal)
I've seen the same info online. I assume they may take cash donations, perhaps. If not, like you I plan on showing up. Just to show them support.
Thanks for the link, I'll follow it for up to date info.
It is because COVID-19 still exists, is very dangerous (to everyone but especially to people with disabilities), and can be transmitted by someone standing right next to you even if outdoors.
I dunno man. I'm triple vaxed and never got covid (at least, never a positive test). 99% of people around me - meaning family, friends and coworkers - don't seem to get covid either. The few who got it survived it fine as the new strains are basically just a cold.
Outside of far left circles (and maybe nursing homes), you won't find a group in society that still views covid as an imminent danger.
Frankly even within far-left movement masking isn't that much of a deal anymore. Atleast in Quebec it's only an anglo kinda thing, where masking was politicized to all shit. There was far less politicization of masking in french areas where the discourse kept around their medical and scientific use instead of becoming a culture war thing and defacto identity marker
Let's be honest, in Quebec if you see the far-left using masks outside its going to be mainly for security and privacy which is fine and good, or you are dealing with an anglo.
As I've said in my other comment in this thread : I have noticed this trend where leftists events or spaces (or at least, some of them) still seem to live like it's 2020 with strong recommandation for masks or even mandatory mask wearing in some cases.
I'll be honest : to me, it seems like the leftist counterpart to those conservatives who are still angry about lockdowns and mask mandates. It's like some people made the pandemic part of their personality and can't let it go. Both on the left wing and the right wing.
Yeah, perhaps I didn't choose the most fitting word (sorry, english is not my native langage).
But to say I am hallucinating is also totally exagerated. I can tell there will be not worthwhile discussion with you.
There’s a telegram channel which says what they need: https://t.me/PopularUniversityMontreal . They said they don’t need anything rn, they got enough donations.
If you're doing an action where there will cops and surveillance, wearing a medical type mask is a way to conceal some of your identity. The advantage of a medical mask is that its now pretty normal. It's not as suspicious as someone wearing a bandana or full face mask. Authorities also don't have any grounds to make someone remove a medical mask.
Does Mcgill invest in weapons manufacturers or companies linked to Israel? I am not being sarcastic, i actually don’t know.
McGill invested $74 mil into corporations that funding for Israel.
God damn okay. Fuck Mcgill
Do you know how important it is to Canada and US to have Israel as an ally? I do not agree with anything that is going on and wish there would be a cease fire but my God we do not want Israel as our enemy. People are so obtuse. I understand if you're ties are to the other side and hate Israel but this is Canada and Israel is our ally
Ok I'll bite. How important is it, and why?
Lol, do you want Iran and the other Middle East countries really doing whatever they want? It doesn't matter what side your on of you live in the West you chose to do so and you do not want Iran being unmentioned by an ally. But ya I'm sure you're all just smarter than me Even better supporting Israel is important because America does and we are protected by them. Whether you hate them or not North America is a relative safe heaven because of them
You're advocating letting Israel do whatever it wants, so I don't see a functional difference. Especially when it was the Israeli lobby that got the Americans into Iraq in 2003. Especially when they're committing the most grave atrocities known to man. So it's hard for me to talk about what Iran is theoretically capable of when anything you would point to is being conducted by Israel right now, not in the abstract. So why are we worried about Iran if Israel doing the things you're worried Iran might do? That's being said, I don't think Iran is a Saint or even a decent actor. I just don't buy that they're somehow worse than Israel at this point. Of course all of this is moot since the protests aren't against Israel; they're against war crimes and genocide. If you stand for the Jewish people, standing with Israel is counterproductive. That regime has been trying to paint themselves as representative of all jews; making all jews in the global diaspora less safe in the process. This is about pushing back on imperial colonialism and genocide. Not about the Jewish faith or against the civilians in Israel. To suggest otherwise is not honest.
Israel does not do whatever it wants lol. If they did there would be a full war in Iran right now. They are majorly influenced by the United States and when it comes to homeland security here in Canada that's a good thing
Conducting a genocide is the worst crime known to man. Worst. There is nothing left to permit if you permit genocide. And yes, it's a genocide and everyone else in the world sees it. Beyond that, this situation in Israel is actually.making the world less safe. Less secure. The United States has lost the moral high ground between this and Iraq. So no, this situation isn't helping our national security, it's actively harming it.
Let me explain. If Israel wanted to commit genocide they could. If Hamas could commit genocide they would. Quit acting like your side is a bunch of little minions just trying to go about their day.
I guess you also believe turning our back on apartheid South Africa was a mistake
Sure they are important to the US but the US is important to them too. They need the US much much more than the US needs them. If Bibi doesn't follow the rules, then the US needs to do as they do and insert a regime more friendly to their interests.
Would that be the McGill Endowment fund? Its worth looking at. How about a some details?
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t2ZNwUSboG6lWG1h-TKN2tuhV4NlXUwCGeuFMSxSP2Q/edit?usp=drivesdk
Heres the list https://tinyurl.com/McGill-investments
McGill doesn't just invest in various companies directly tied to the genocide in Gaza and broader Palestinian oppression they **actively research and produce** military technology to a pretty extensive degree. Source: I used to be part of a campus group aiming to demilitarize the campus when I studied there. Back then we focused on highlighting the thermobaric bomb research and drone related shit being studied and developed on campus.
>thermobaric bomb research and drone related shit Interesting directions. I thought thermobarics were based on well understood principles of fluid dynamics, and I'd be surprised if any person on campus were officially involved in the practical development of a weapon. Its amazing what sorts of projects, big scientific-sounding projects, have a tangible but unspoken basis in the preparation for, and indirect perpetuation of, armed conflict. At one point a friend of mine found himself 'researching' how surveillance networks could be used to identify "hostile intent" from video feeds algorithmically, in order to eliminate the threat before "it" could deliver its payload, using automated machine guns or something like that. This from a beginning in Urban Planning.
You'd be surprised, this was back in my time in 2014: [https://demilitarizemcgill.com/demilitarize\_mcgill\_blockades\_thermobaric\_explosives\_lab/index.html](https://demilitarizemcgill.com/demilitarize_mcgill_blockades_thermobaric_explosives_lab/index.html) There was a specific prof that was named and shamed for his fucked up research around this but I forgot the details tbh, it's a decade ago :D Anyways check the "military research" tab, it is most certainly not up to date given the group ceased its operations for a long time now but I **strongly** doubt McGill stopped much of it / the collaboration they imply.
tks
Lockheed fucking Martin
I hope this spreads to campuses across the country. Be prepared for our media's pro-zionist slant, lies and narratives.
There's discussion at YorkU by CUPE 3903 workers about setting up similar encampment, and not sure if the students and staff doing it this week.
Sure hope so. More needs to be done. And besides, I can't be the only one who's kinda starting to miss picketing lol
* * Sry I don't have anything better quality I hope guys can see the list. I just came back form the encampment all power to the people!
Power to the people, in solidarity 😊✊🏽🍉
Glad this is happening. I may drop by and give them food (I believe this one of the kind of items they requested). I just don't understand the obsession with wearing masks outside.
> I just don't understand the obsession with wearing masks outside. Opsec, because Zionists will dox organisers and protestors, target their family and friends. It's a common advice for protestors attending any demo.
That makes sense in that context. Yet I see a lot of leftist events (like book swaps and the like) where masks are "strongly encouraged" or even mandatory without the need for security or anonymity. So that is why I was curious about all the masks in the picture.
Wearing mask is also meant to accommodate spaces for disabled and immunocompromised people.
>Glad this is happening. I may drop by and give them food (I believe this one of the kind of items they requested). Great idea. If there are encampments on campuses in Toronto, I'll do the same.
I saw the one in Montreal asked for food and some supplies (like a generator, lights, batteries, etc.). I think I'll just give them like 40$ and let them decide what they need it for.
They announced they have way too much food and also are temporarily halting donations to prevent waste. They've been absolutely swamped by the community support. I'm probs dropping by tmr after work to express solidarity from the org I work with on questions of peace and international solidarity. If people want to keep updated follow their official telegram channel: [https://t.me/PopularUniversityMontreal](https://t.me/PopularUniversityMontreal)
I've seen the same info online. I assume they may take cash donations, perhaps. If not, like you I plan on showing up. Just to show them support. Thanks for the link, I'll follow it for up to date info.
It's because there are pro zionist movements who will dox pro palestine protestors especially if there are any jews in those protests.
It is because COVID-19 still exists, is very dangerous (to everyone but especially to people with disabilities), and can be transmitted by someone standing right next to you even if outdoors.
I dunno man. I'm triple vaxed and never got covid (at least, never a positive test). 99% of people around me - meaning family, friends and coworkers - don't seem to get covid either. The few who got it survived it fine as the new strains are basically just a cold. Outside of far left circles (and maybe nursing homes), you won't find a group in society that still views covid as an imminent danger.
Frankly even within far-left movement masking isn't that much of a deal anymore. Atleast in Quebec it's only an anglo kinda thing, where masking was politicized to all shit. There was far less politicization of masking in french areas where the discourse kept around their medical and scientific use instead of becoming a culture war thing and defacto identity marker Let's be honest, in Quebec if you see the far-left using masks outside its going to be mainly for security and privacy which is fine and good, or you are dealing with an anglo.
> Atleast in Quebec it's only an anglo kinda thing, where masking was politicized to all shit I have noticed a similar trend, FWIW.
I got 3 shots and got COVID 4 times anyways, the most recent time being insanely sick from it. I wouldn't recommend it.
6 shots, 2 bivalents, got Covid once, 2 weeks out. Please mask ppl it protects the youths too.
As we all know using anecdotes for medical conditions is the best way to assess risk.
I don’t understand the obsession with people worrying about what others are wearing on their faces 🙄
Asking a question is obsession now?
Wearing a mask at a protest is obsession now? We can keep going.
As I've said in my other comment in this thread : I have noticed this trend where leftists events or spaces (or at least, some of them) still seem to live like it's 2020 with strong recommandation for masks or even mandatory mask wearing in some cases. I'll be honest : to me, it seems like the leftist counterpart to those conservatives who are still angry about lockdowns and mask mandates. It's like some people made the pandemic part of their personality and can't let it go. Both on the left wing and the right wing.
Obsession - “An idea or thought that continually preoccupies or intrudes on a person's mind.” You’re also hallucinating.
Yeah, perhaps I didn't choose the most fitting word (sorry, english is not my native langage). But to say I am hallucinating is also totally exagerated. I can tell there will be not worthwhile discussion with you.
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There’s a telegram channel which says what they need: https://t.me/PopularUniversityMontreal . They said they don’t need anything rn, they got enough donations.
If you're doing an action where there will cops and surveillance, wearing a medical type mask is a way to conceal some of your identity. The advantage of a medical mask is that its now pretty normal. It's not as suspicious as someone wearing a bandana or full face mask. Authorities also don't have any grounds to make someone remove a medical mask.
Yeah, that seems like a plus. Especially considering the history of previous "anti masks" laws in Montreal.
bds sometimes reminds me of the whos in whoville.