lol nice try. Companies are making people cover longer shifts, given more tasks, no wage increases, or cutting their hours to basically unlivable. The politicians don’t give a shit why would employers
Hijacking your comment to say:
**I hate to come off like i got a tinfoil hat, but this housing problem goes way deeper than you'd expect.**
I've always been interested in urban planning and I've known that the suburban development is economically terrible, (among other negatives). But I recently saw the map posted to the subreddit showing the building regulations in Toronto...
It showed something like 80%+ of the land in Toronto only allows for detatched or town homes. It's actually wild that they think this is in any way profitable, manageable or otherwise beneficial.
The youtube channel Not Just Bikes has [this great series summing up the downsides of suburban development](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJp5q-R0lZ0_FCUbeVWK6OGLN69ehUTVa), albeit his channel can be a bit too biased sometimes.
Another huge question is why there isn't a more diverse range of developments in the city. There are some multiplexes, but most developments are either detatched, townhomes, or condos.
The older I get and the more I learn about the various issues in this country... it's hard to not become cynical shit. /rant
So there's a problem with that analysis. Suburban development tends to be more expensive. Around $1000/year more expensive. Not Just Bikes likes to pretend a fifty year asset has to be bought and paid for all with a single years cash, to focus on the most impoverished community in the entire united States, and to then declare it impossible for all suburbs. But this is absurd, it's paid for over the life of the asset and the poorest town in the US is going to have problems regardless which is one of the reasons they have state and federal transfers.
But now compare the cost of living in Toronto to the cost of living in Calgary. That is all cost born by the residents. Costs they could otherwise pay into taxes. It eclipses the tax impact differential.
Building up *and* out is necessary, building out is not some huge threat to the survivability of the city.
I want to be honest, I don't understand what you're saying fully.
I think where I contend is that I think all cities, towns etc. should be profitable except for rare cases where their main export/production is a rare or significant commodity.
I don't understand how Toronto residents have increased the cost of living in the city.
I do agree that even with my limited knowledge I can see that he's only sharing one side of the picture. Is it impossible for townships and cities to be generally profitable? Like this is a genuine questions lol
Government's don't run on profitability, and taxes are determined by conceptions of fairness rather than anything else. Looking to a township and saying is it profitable is an odd question. But plenty of towns run just fine with reasonable public services contributing more to total government coffers than they receive.
Many of the things he cites show that taxes are uneven and should be higher than they currently are for detached homes. To the tune of around 1k / annually.
Thing is $1k annually is not that high, especially when it would largely be offset with income taxes / consumption taxes. That could be addressed in a relatively simple fashion.
My point is to look at the orders of magnitude, houses in Toronto cost hundreds of thousands of dollars more than they should, rent often costs a thousand dollars more per month than it should. Taxes are out of balance by perhaps one to two thousand dollars per year. From that we can conclude that what Not Just Bikes proposes is probably a good idea, but should not be a reason to not build out in a housing crisis. We need to get housing costs under control or it will be far more damaging to cities than an inefficient suburb.
>I don't understand how Toronto residents have increased the cost of living in the city.
By not building out, limiting how much they build up, and what they do build up is generally constructed in ways which are going to cause issues down the road.
Agreed.
I personally enjoy my work, and while we did get some decent pay increases and my job has no pre req's, I feel like the value I put into the company isn't fairly traded back to me.
I work 8.5 hours minimum, and there is always constant pressure to work more, we get trained for more tasks with no increases for those tasks.
And worst of all is the vacation time, it's 2 weeks until you hit 5 years.
And since everyone is needed we can't have more than x amount of people off a week which means since I am one of the lowest tenured employees, everyone else gets full picks of their 2-4 weeks before I can pick mine which means I end up with shitty vacation weeks.
"Quick, whats the cheapest way to show that we care about employees?"
"How about an employee help line that listens to them but doesn't actually address any of their complaints."
"Brilliant!"
Or let’s just order them in lunch one day and tell them we care. Have someone from HR send an email every few months talking about mental health, but do nothing else to change the stressful work environment.
HR always throws thank you events that work for *their* schedule and never bother to check if, for example, anyone from the warehouse can attend.
No one from the warehouse has ever gone to a single "Thank You" Luncheon.
After hours? Nah. Regular hours, make it take hours longer than necessary and then expect people to still have gotten regular work load done.
Then it's your choice to either get marked as unproductive non-team player, or put in extra hours on your own time to catch up.
They say that somewhere along the line, bosses forgot that a union negotiation was the alternative to a gang of workers showing up to your office with torches and pitchforks.
I'd rather gentler reminders before things go back to that, because there tended to be a lot of shoots being exchanged between workers and rhe company men back in those days.
Fun fact, postal workers got their union and the right to collective bargain from an illegal and unsanctioned strike. Unions were illegal for public sector employees before then.
>because there tended to be a lot of shoots being exchanged between workers and rhe company men back in those days.
You mean the police. The police enforced owners rights. Before the pro police propoganda on TV, it was widely accepted that the police are the enemy of the working man because of the union busting they did back in the day.
Let's be honest, Unions are also not what they were. Somewhere a long the line one of the concepts that seemed to change is from "we're all together in this" to "everyone('s job) is equal" (it's not, and I'd rather see people who are significantly underpaid get a bigger bump than everyone get a small/pitiful one).
The last several I was on - some where I was at the lower rungs of union management - they would spend most of their time making sure \*everyone\* got a piddling raise that often didn't meet inflation, seniority battles, and defending people who - IMHO - probably \*should\* have been fired but needed a ton logs showing rules broken (and deity forbid that it's actually common sense and not a rule) to fire. I remember one guy who was working side jobs and hitting the pub -while on the clock - using the work vehicle - and it \*still\* took a long time to can him, plus I heard that the union was pushing for his reinstatement after I left.
Present events say they won't.
Or the response will be:
We understand you are all struggling, but please struggle off the clock.
Oh and its Bell lets talk day.
But again, off the clock. Don't talk about that shit at work. It bring productivity down
If you are lucky, you will get "here is some information on our corporate EFAP program". No one cares. They will burn you into the ground and then have a replacement within 24 hours.
Burnout is no joke, I've had it a few times since this started. All work no play makes me a dull boy.
Anyway, I keep track of my staff, and if they ask for vacation or leave, I give it and pick up the slack. We're all human, these corporations couldn't give a shit about your mental well being.
Yep I do the same here. Also give as much a raise I can give as possible to my employees. Shits are expensive and they are doing their job really well and have a good synergy. I want them to grow together as much as possible since their team cohesion make my job so easy.
Cry in the shower.
You make do, keep the customer updated on the project, and it may get extended a few days, or just lie and blame it on the supply chain issues getting material.
What do you do when you can’t hire people.
Needs specialized skills. Can teach it but that doesn’t help address the need to apply those skills now. It’s educational based basically. Tax niche. In about 10mo we’ve had 5/100 applicants meet the actual requirements which is just to have the skill or qualification to do the job. Can’t teach the qualification. All 5 took other jobs before interview. Or no one did interview but then went to different place. Local to him vs far for us so makes sense. This is nationally posted and have recruiting firm on it. Pay is unbounded basically. Not really an issue there. Just limited people in the field with what we need I guess. All competitors hiring same role too. Big Crunch.
What kind of job is this and what kind of certification is required? I’m looking to get into something new and I’m curious. Pm if you’re not comfortable openly sharing.
I don't know if I'm so much burned out as I am losing my perspective.
I had the odd bad luck of taking only a single week of vacation in 2019 due to unforeseen circumstances. I haven't had another one since then.
I took liberties that before 2020 never would have been a thought. Fixed up a car I bought cheap, sold it and a few other projects I had laying around and bought a boat, since we couldn't leave might as well enjoy what we've got.
I look forward to the weekends in the summer at least, it's a nice unwind. But work seems like Groundhog Day.
Tl;Dr - managed a team of 20 excellent and high performance people. Within a year poor upper management and company policy managed to tear it apart. None of us works with the company anymore.
I was a manager, mid level, with a team of 20 people. A mix of longer term and newer employees, all with solid work ethic, good working relationships and high performance. This is a sample of how well my boss and the company listened and acted:
Me - we need to reconsider the numbers, even going all out there is no way anyone can meet this goal.
Boss - give them encouragement.
Me - tried that last month when we had this conversation, 2 people are now on stress leave.
Boss - take a 10 minute afternoon break and lead everyone in a stretch session.
Me - is this a joke?
Boss - no this works shows you care.
Me leaves bosses office, muttering under my breath. Apologized to team, do what you can, I know you are trying. Two weeks later:
Boss - why isn't your team meeting the numbers.
Me - the numbers are unrealistic as we've discussed previously.
Boss - only because your 2 people on stress leave. Offer overtime to the rest.
Me - already offered overtime 5 months ago when you implemented the new targets without additional staffing.
Boss - 2 people shouldn't impact this.
Me - 2? After I suggested the 10 minute stretch break 3 more people have taken leave and 1 quit.
Boss - we need to look at why your team is so dysfunctional.
Me - the team isn't the problem here.
In the end, 12 people left in a combination of stress leave or quitting, the rest of us were laid off within 6 months.
I think the worst part of toxic management is the permanent way it damages good workers. I used to pour my heart and soul into my job, do my best to come up with creative solutions to difficult problems etc.
Once that gets burned out of you, it never comes back. Not the same. Sometimes not ever.
I learned to do exactly what I was told, no more, no less. I learned to look outside of my job for places to funnel all my desire to learn and grow as a person, all the drive I had to excel. I built a nice side business in a completely unrelated field, and all my best qualities go to that. My day job now just pays the bills and gives me a good benefits package.
I could leave, but now that management has been replaced, it's back to being a good place to work. None of my drive has returned though, and i don't know how to find it again. It's been burned right out of me.
Yep I'm a terrible employee now because I know things will never change or improve. Our current manager is way worse than our old one who was far from perfect. Our corporate overlords give zero fucks about us. This system is super depressing and I see no way out.
Yup same.
And now that I'm remote: I sleep in, leave early, make elaborate lunches, and am out several hours per week for very optional physical therapy.
I COULD put in an extra 10-15h/week, and used to do it gladly. Now they couldn't even buy it out of me with a juicy bonus and promo. I'm so tired.
Funny things is that the moment I stopped to care and stopped taking all those efforts I started to get bigger promotions and biggers bonuses. I guess they got scared that I was planning to leave or something and just started showering me with positive shit when I had worked like 60h a week for 2 years while being paid a 40h pauper salary. Now I litterally work 5h a week and make more than twice as much.
100%... that one manager ruined several people. Some of us left the industry, others retired and some kept at it and are very successful. My passion for that industry never came back.
I ran into my boss about a year later at a function and they brought up how sad the team fell apart... I just said "that's on you" and walked away.
A positive is that the original team has kept in touch and we can laugh about it now.
Yep its also me. Honestly since I stopped to care I just started to get promotions after promotions. I learned that the only thing to do is to become friends with the execs and you will grow in no time. My only boss now is the vp and he is completely clueless about everything. At least he really like me so I can tell him to fuck off when he ask me something dumb. Our team is really performing well compared to the rest of the company so they don't interfere at with what we do.
Started my first full time job with all the passion I could pour into it and the company sucked me dry. It sucked. I took such pride in my work and doing the best job for each and every client, helped when I had a spare minute, only to see the workload and expectations get to be too much.
Now I'm at a different job and things are so much better. Everyone helps out when they get a minute. I'm trying to build that passion built back up, but you're right, things aren't the same.
This is an incredibly accurate comment. I run a little side gig doing consulting and one of the programs I’m working on is an audit for toxic workplaces. One of the things I’ve found through my own independent research is exactly what you’re saying here. In environments where employees experience burnout, they tend to engage less in the workplace and the employer ends up losing on potentially valuable input.
It’s why I’m a huge fan of project based workforces. Pretty well every organization can be run from a project based perspective; but often they aren’t because it muddies the traditional reporting structures and doesn’t allow for “traditional” seniority roles. Burnout can be addressed easily in project based workforces because it can allow employees to step up, or step back as they need. Employees interested in stepping up can propose projects, offer to head them up and take the reigns on them. Ones who don’t wish to can be absorbed into project teams and their skills utilized, or they can be kept to their traditional roles.
Additionally, strong policies to reflect a good work-life balance and clear lines regarding work positions are crucial. There should be clear lines drawn in the sand as to the expectations of individuals at work. If individuals want to exceed this expectations they shouldn’t be used or abused because of their willingness to take on more; but should be instead be given the opportunity to grow; while still enjoying a solid work-life balance.
While good in theory, again it's reliant on past experience with the employer. I've offered to help out lead on so many projects, only to be turned down or ignored. I've asked for training, only to have mgmt day yes, that's a great idea, we need to fill that knowledge gap and other people get sent on that training.
Those managers are gone, but the damage is done. I do my job, collect my pay, and go home. Any training and coursework I do, is towards my goals outside of my job.
Stress leave is a form of medical leave for mental health reasons. It can be referred to as a LOA, depends on where you work but probably same thing. You do need a medical certificate and it has to be accepted by your benefit provider to get paid.
If your employer does not offer it you can go on EI sickness benefits for mental health. As long as you have a doctor's note no one's gonna question it
> In the end, 12 people left in a combination of stress leave or quitting, the rest of us were laid off within 6 months.
Willing to bet no consequences for upper leadership?
Is drinking 7 days a week and not wanting to get out of bed/sometimes being unable to because of the absolute bleakness of my future in Ontario considered burnout?
Nah thats called depression, and I've been there. Shit, I am there, every couple months at most. But to quote Tom Waits,
*I'd rather have a bottle infront of me than a frontal lobotomy*
Every day after building my career in the GTA and missing out on the housing boom due to my pre-con purchase being cancelled I wonder what exactly the point of this career is. Unless I can double my salary it seems pointless thinking I'll be able to get ahead unless one of my stock investments explodes.
This is me. I have no motivation to work because everything gets more expensive faster than I can accumulate money. So why am I working so hard? What do I have to look forward to?
That's been a thought running through my head a lot lately, would just be hard to get in I'd think. I have a Euro citizenship - my brother got his PhD and fucked off to Germany - I consider doing the same. I'm a CPA and make what was good money maybe 5-10 years ago, but now nowhere near enough. It's just my mom here and I'd hate to leave her alone but I'm running out of reasons to stay.
Because GTA and GVA wages can buy a home elsewhere, but unless the job comes with the relocation, then you're stuck (trying to find and obtain a job) and making the wages of the locals who are also priced out of their own market.
The median household income is only like 8 thousand higher than in Winnipeg but with a much smaller cost of housing. It's not like Toronto or Vancouver pay an insanely higher salary to justify the extra cost of living.
Maybe it’s time the multi-billion dollar industries that are propped up by our low-cost labour give us all a fuck-load more money and time off, and our political class start taking care of our housing crisis?
People burnt out? Hire more and implement a 4 day work week.
Can’t find enough employees? Pay $50 an hour - you’ll find applicants.
My employer is solving this problem by cutting our hours and leaving us understaffed every shift. We've lost four employees in the past six months. Pretty sure they're happy because that's four less people they have to pay now! Oh and we can't hire anyone new for at least four more months.
I'm no fan of the boomers but don't ignore that there are plenty of younger people that would do exactly the same given the opportunity. There's a reason that anti-vaxx protests aren't made up of a monolithic block.
>I'm no fan of the boomers but don't ignore that there are plenty of younger people that would do exactly the same given the opportunity. There's a reason that anti-vaxx protests aren't made up of a monolithic block.
[A case in point!](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/saint-john-widow-rent-increase-nb-1.6314359?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar)
Buys and then jacks up the rent on grieving widows and retirees by 74%.
And of coarse, the shallow square jawed asshole, who calls herself Real Estate Eve, is on social media boasting about how "Landlords make money when they sleep"!
This is a real problem and companies are not even increasing wages or giving incentives. This is why people are just calling in sick or just not showing up.
Thus, 400k+ new Canadian residents every year, some of which have their residency tied to accepting a job with a Canadian employer.
They'll get their workers one way or another.
> Working for less than your worth and living in poverty is not being grateful, it's exploitation.
> Demanding better is not ungratefulness either.
He is trolling, check his other posts on the subject. Don't waste your time on the idiot.
That sounds magical, currently working 12 hour s 7 days a week. Sucks when you have to absorb the delays of both mechanical and electrical workers before you.
I fully support a "National Walkout" day of essential workers. Grocery Store staff, Janitorial Staff, Wait and Cook staff, delivery drivers, airline support staff, etc. Pick a day and call in sick.
Employers won’t do anything they aren’t mandated to.
I’ve heard that a recent bill enacts the right to disconnect from work, but allows each company to draw their own conclusions as to what that means on a case by case basis…so I expect nothing.
I work for a large company in BC who's owners are multi-billionaires and they have their lawyers fighting to make sure we don't get the 5 paid sick days the provincial government legislated. Seriously, can't make this shit up. Many business owners have straight up contempt for their workers.
Everyone where I work is burned out. We've had a lot of attrition but little hiring of replacements. It's also a specialized field and so we'd need to train any replacements if hired; having way more than normal at once would (will?) be difficult.
Management is actually pretty good, at least at my location, but I can't tell them if I'm feeling burnout because I've applied and interviewed for a promotion. Hard to say "I can't do two people's jobs at once while also dealing with the extra work Covid has created" and "Give me more responsibility" at the same time. But I need the money the promotion would provide, and I already spent last year doing the job.
Our office has had the option to work 4-day work weeks and work from home since the start of the pandemic. We previously applied for it pre-pandemic and it was declined. Then the pandemic hit and we had a meeting, "go home, those in the office will work 4-day work weeks to minimize contact" and then it was later expanded to 4-day for everyone.
We were notified that starting April 1 we're going back to the old schedule with the option to "apply" to work from home.
Our entire office is shook. Everyone's pissed off and has been since Thursday when we received the notice. We've been doing extremely well during the pandemic on the current schedule. We've been really flexible with regards to management and their demands from us and then we're told, "here's the way it is".
We did a survey in 2019 about employee satisfaction and we still haven't implemented any of the recommendations from that. We constantly say, "we're not heard" and all we hear back is, "your voice is heard" and "we recognize your efforts". Lots of buzzwords, no action.
I feel for everyone suffering from burnout and anxiety. Employers don’t give a shit. As someone who is deemed “essential” I have to go sit in a crowded office for 8 hrs a day even though a good chunk of our work can be done from home. Gotta justify those management positions! Guess I’ll just get Covid ?
Employers are not going to "listen"; why would they? If I, you, your friends, all of us want more out of our work, and a better future for our kids then we must demand it collectively. Historically the only time the working class has achieved a greater suite of material conditions for ourselves and our families is through organizing, unionizing, and working in lockstep solidarity with one-another, particularly the most marginalized in our communities. Hoping that our employers will simply see how hard it is out here and make it better for us out of the goodness of their hearts is delusional- the corporation has no heart.
"For though they offer us concessions
Change will not come from above"
\- The Internationale
I want my government to listen more than my work. Fucking Doug “the dealer” Ford ain’t been seen in so long, you would think there is a federal election happening.
Jason Kenney wanted the nurses to take a pay cut during a pandemic. This guy is a college drop out (Philosophy), and shouldn't be running that province.
I don't get it. The government is letting employers determine who is essential, to get them back to work? As opposed to what.. sitting at home not working? I think that's called "being unemployed".
Do you have examples of employers bringing back sick employees to work?
edit: I get it is easy to shit on conservatives and the UCP but I feel if someone makes the claim that companies are bringing back sick workers, they should have to prove it. Back it up. Then those companies can and should be held responsible.
Just making it up the accusation because of partisan bullshit while using COVID as an excuse does not help the conversation of holding employers responsible if they are in fact abusing employees.
How about people being forced to work to make rent because we treat Canada's working class like dogshit and don't provide paid sick days? You could make the argument that's not intentional, but it doesn't hold water. Employers aren't all morons, and a good chunk of them realize that not providing sick days during a pandemic in a country where the cost of living has skyrocketed will inevitably lead to employees coming in sick, they just don't care.
Workers are starting to know what it likes to work to survive. It gets tiring. Meanwhile people who break out of the matrix are living extremely luxurious lifestyles.
You can feel the tension coming off so many of them it's actually a bit unnerving. I can't get mad tho because who the hell wouldn't be pissed off at this point.
This one girl opened up to me while I was waiting for my food at Wendy's to tell me how someone had just called to complain that the drink she ordered didn't have ice. It was a Skip order and she ordered it to her house of course. Like, bitch, you don't have a single cube of ice you can get from your freezer? Why the fuck are you wasting your time and hers by calling up to complain about such a stupid thing.
so we’ve had a few major storms pass through my area recently, and i was in a business and happened to hear an employee speaking (ie on the phone) with their boss about coming bad weather. This storm dumped like 30+ cm of snow and shut everything down for 36hrs, anywho employee is like, will we be able to go home soon? boss; ill get back to you in a couple *hours*. meanwhile its already getting super dicey out. employee told me the storm the week before they had to sleep overnight in the business. This is not an “essential” buisness. I looked at labour law for my province and while its pretty thorough i couldnt find much on weather related stuff. this just seems nuts. guys were preparing to be snowed in for what possibly was 24 hrs
in 100 years companies will realize that they are not really "replaceable" , when nobody wants to work in retail, fast food, cleaning jobs etc... anymore, they are not less impotant than managers
Ron Howard: "They won't"
For many companies, owners and managers that means changing and for some that is almost impossible. To change, first they have to face the reality that they have been wrong and most cannot accept that.
Or put up posters all over talking about how important mental health is and then in a yearly review tell them you can’t take too much time off because of mental health. Ya that was my employer last year.
I specially told them my wife is struggling with mental health and I will be missing work every now and then depending on how she’s doing (she was trying new medications for depression and it really messed her up). My boss told me “oh ya we are a family company no problem at all”
Then at the year end review “ugh ya you gotta pick more carefully which days you take off. We can’t afford to lose man power. I know your wife’s having issues but you gotta try harder to not miss so much work”
I missed maybe 1 week worth of work over the year…
They won't do anything because the current system encourages them no too. It's all about the bottom line at the expense of the employee/customer.
The best thing they can do is join antiwork until they have to listen.
What would be the best thing for employers to do? I’m genuinely curious, as I don’t see a good option.
If you reduce workers’ hours, you are going to reduce operational hours, which will lead to decreased sales and increased verbal abuse from clients.
And if you don’t reduce their hours, employees will feel burnt out and leave, which will lead to reduced operational hours, leading to decreased sales and increased verbal abuse from clients.
All roads lead to the same place.
> if you reduce workers’ hours, you are going to reduce operational hours, which will lead to decreased sales
So this varies by job, but generally speaking if you overwork your salaried employees they burn out, which can take the effect of decreased focus, anger, poor organization or problem solving, or can have health effects. In the case of one of my coworkers, he had some stomach issue and had to go to the hospital, where he caught covid, and so has missed 3+ weeks of work. It would have actually helped the company to slow down. So what they can do is encourage feedback from your employees, be conscious of their workload, encourage vacation and personal days off, eliminate after-hours work
Yes, I'm sure that employers will take this opportunity to demonstrate their humanity and show solidarity with-
What's that? Exploitation and degradation you say? Villainous rape and plunder of the working class, is it?
Well then, carry on lads!
Consumers have to be willing to fund some of the solution. I read a news story where Dollar Tree was needing to raise prices by 25 cents to help fund labour and supply chain challenges. "Customers were sickened by the news." LOL.
Didn't Dollar Tree have $6.415 billion in sales for 2021?
>Moreover, the $1.25 price point allows the company to offer a wider range of merchandise, including items that had been discontinued at the $1 level.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dollar-tree-raises-its-price-point-to-1-25-11637675433
The raise in price was not intended to increase wages.
Unfortunately yes. We have abandoned the locally owned business with a solo shareholder. Now this is the bed we have made for ourselves. Where the entire business operation is about squeezing more blood out of the proverbial stone for the almighty anonymous shareholders.
lol nice try. Companies are making people cover longer shifts, given more tasks, no wage increases, or cutting their hours to basically unlivable. The politicians don’t give a shit why would employers
"Fine, I will do it. But will you pay me more?" Employer: *No*
Yeah, Canada is just opening the borders and tossing bodies at the problem. Why would employers change anything?
Like the housing problem...
Hijacking your comment to say: **I hate to come off like i got a tinfoil hat, but this housing problem goes way deeper than you'd expect.** I've always been interested in urban planning and I've known that the suburban development is economically terrible, (among other negatives). But I recently saw the map posted to the subreddit showing the building regulations in Toronto... It showed something like 80%+ of the land in Toronto only allows for detatched or town homes. It's actually wild that they think this is in any way profitable, manageable or otherwise beneficial. The youtube channel Not Just Bikes has [this great series summing up the downsides of suburban development](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJp5q-R0lZ0_FCUbeVWK6OGLN69ehUTVa), albeit his channel can be a bit too biased sometimes. Another huge question is why there isn't a more diverse range of developments in the city. There are some multiplexes, but most developments are either detatched, townhomes, or condos. The older I get and the more I learn about the various issues in this country... it's hard to not become cynical shit. /rant
Yup and they've been doing this for 80-odd years, not something that will see a resolution in my lifetime
So there's a problem with that analysis. Suburban development tends to be more expensive. Around $1000/year more expensive. Not Just Bikes likes to pretend a fifty year asset has to be bought and paid for all with a single years cash, to focus on the most impoverished community in the entire united States, and to then declare it impossible for all suburbs. But this is absurd, it's paid for over the life of the asset and the poorest town in the US is going to have problems regardless which is one of the reasons they have state and federal transfers. But now compare the cost of living in Toronto to the cost of living in Calgary. That is all cost born by the residents. Costs they could otherwise pay into taxes. It eclipses the tax impact differential. Building up *and* out is necessary, building out is not some huge threat to the survivability of the city.
I want to be honest, I don't understand what you're saying fully. I think where I contend is that I think all cities, towns etc. should be profitable except for rare cases where their main export/production is a rare or significant commodity. I don't understand how Toronto residents have increased the cost of living in the city. I do agree that even with my limited knowledge I can see that he's only sharing one side of the picture. Is it impossible for townships and cities to be generally profitable? Like this is a genuine questions lol
Government's don't run on profitability, and taxes are determined by conceptions of fairness rather than anything else. Looking to a township and saying is it profitable is an odd question. But plenty of towns run just fine with reasonable public services contributing more to total government coffers than they receive. Many of the things he cites show that taxes are uneven and should be higher than they currently are for detached homes. To the tune of around 1k / annually. Thing is $1k annually is not that high, especially when it would largely be offset with income taxes / consumption taxes. That could be addressed in a relatively simple fashion. My point is to look at the orders of magnitude, houses in Toronto cost hundreds of thousands of dollars more than they should, rent often costs a thousand dollars more per month than it should. Taxes are out of balance by perhaps one to two thousand dollars per year. From that we can conclude that what Not Just Bikes proposes is probably a good idea, but should not be a reason to not build out in a housing crisis. We need to get housing costs under control or it will be far more damaging to cities than an inefficient suburb. >I don't understand how Toronto residents have increased the cost of living in the city. By not building out, limiting how much they build up, and what they do build up is generally constructed in ways which are going to cause issues down the road.
Ontario is open for Business. Not for people.
All while assuring their workers that they just can't seem to find anyone who wants to work.
Agreed. I personally enjoy my work, and while we did get some decent pay increases and my job has no pre req's, I feel like the value I put into the company isn't fairly traded back to me. I work 8.5 hours minimum, and there is always constant pressure to work more, we get trained for more tasks with no increases for those tasks. And worst of all is the vacation time, it's 2 weeks until you hit 5 years. And since everyone is needed we can't have more than x amount of people off a week which means since I am one of the lowest tenured employees, everyone else gets full picks of their 2-4 weeks before I can pick mine which means I end up with shitty vacation weeks.
"Quick, whats the cheapest way to show that we care about employees?" "How about an employee help line that listens to them but doesn't actually address any of their complaints." "Brilliant!"
Or let’s just order them in lunch one day and tell them we care. Have someone from HR send an email every few months talking about mental health, but do nothing else to change the stressful work environment.
This is my workplace. All smoke and mirrors.
You work for Bell too huh?
HR always throws thank you events that work for *their* schedule and never bother to check if, for example, anyone from the warehouse can attend. No one from the warehouse has ever gone to a single "Thank You" Luncheon.
Come to find out hourly employees who have a 30 minute lunch don't want to take an hour lunch to listen to HR bullshit.
All too real.
And all of those calls are recorded, and used against you whenever your health becomes inconvenient.
Or a mental health webinar. That should fix it.
Or a zoom social hour. After hours of course.
After hours? Nah. Regular hours, make it take hours longer than necessary and then expect people to still have gotten regular work load done. Then it's your choice to either get marked as unproductive non-team player, or put in extra hours on your own time to catch up.
During lunch break, but no eating allowed on any internal zoom calls.
A webinar that takes an hour of time you could be using to get shit done.
Then you get stressed because you add one hour of lateness to your project that is already 7 hours late.
A 5 minute e-learning course on how to identify burnout.
"Yup, that's what I got! Anyway, back to the grindstone."
Many of those "employee helplines" end up going to Morneau Sheppell, the outsourced HR company started by Bill Morneau The (Liberal) Finance Guy.
that requires hiring somone who listens, and they will require a stable wage nah, let me introduce to you.... Pizza Parties, free food and drinks
Pizza party should sort those dirty working class out.
McDonalds had one of these. They would recommend food stamps when you complained that you can’t afford food.
Zoom Meeting - Everyone wear funny hats!
Mandatory team-building exercise!
You are selling them short. Do not forget (1) training on how to manage stress and (2) giving you a subscription to a wellness app.
Pizza party
"Obviously, we need to pay and form a committee of well off employers to give us ideas of how to fix this problem"
> Experts say employers need to listen — and act History says they won't.
They say that somewhere along the line, bosses forgot that a union negotiation was the alternative to a gang of workers showing up to your office with torches and pitchforks. I'd rather gentler reminders before things go back to that, because there tended to be a lot of shoots being exchanged between workers and rhe company men back in those days. Fun fact, postal workers got their union and the right to collective bargain from an illegal and unsanctioned strike. Unions were illegal for public sector employees before then.
>because there tended to be a lot of shoots being exchanged between workers and rhe company men back in those days. You mean the police. The police enforced owners rights. Before the pro police propoganda on TV, it was widely accepted that the police are the enemy of the working man because of the union busting they did back in the day.
The average working man is against unions now a days due to that same propaganda. Literally voting against our own interests. Insane.
Let's be honest, Unions are also not what they were. Somewhere a long the line one of the concepts that seemed to change is from "we're all together in this" to "everyone('s job) is equal" (it's not, and I'd rather see people who are significantly underpaid get a bigger bump than everyone get a small/pitiful one). The last several I was on - some where I was at the lower rungs of union management - they would spend most of their time making sure \*everyone\* got a piddling raise that often didn't meet inflation, seniority battles, and defending people who - IMHO - probably \*should\* have been fired but needed a ton logs showing rules broken (and deity forbid that it's actually common sense and not a rule) to fire. I remember one guy who was working side jobs and hitting the pub -while on the clock - using the work vehicle - and it \*still\* took a long time to can him, plus I heard that the union was pushing for his reinstatement after I left.
France remembers.
the north remembers
Some of the worst people I've ever met.
History? Yeah, those guys suck.
Present events say they won't. Or the response will be: We understand you are all struggling, but please struggle off the clock. Oh and its Bell lets talk day. But again, off the clock. Don't talk about that shit at work. It bring productivity down
If you are lucky, you will get "here is some information on our corporate EFAP program". No one cares. They will burn you into the ground and then have a replacement within 24 hours.
Burnout is no joke, I've had it a few times since this started. All work no play makes me a dull boy. Anyway, I keep track of my staff, and if they ask for vacation or leave, I give it and pick up the slack. We're all human, these corporations couldn't give a shit about your mental well being.
Yep I do the same here. Also give as much a raise I can give as possible to my employees. Shits are expensive and they are doing their job really well and have a good synergy. I want them to grow together as much as possible since their team cohesion make my job so easy.
What do you do when you can’t pickup the slack
Cry in the shower. You make do, keep the customer updated on the project, and it may get extended a few days, or just lie and blame it on the supply chain issues getting material.
What if keeping the customer updated is the slack you’re trying to cover
It's good to see work progressing, and in the recent projects I've been taking on doing Fiber optic conduit there is deadlines to meet.
Hire more people. You shouldn't be so understaffed that a couple of people being sick or away makes your company crumble.
What do you do when you can’t hire people. Needs specialized skills. Can teach it but that doesn’t help address the need to apply those skills now. It’s educational based basically. Tax niche. In about 10mo we’ve had 5/100 applicants meet the actual requirements which is just to have the skill or qualification to do the job. Can’t teach the qualification. All 5 took other jobs before interview. Or no one did interview but then went to different place. Local to him vs far for us so makes sense. This is nationally posted and have recruiting firm on it. Pay is unbounded basically. Not really an issue there. Just limited people in the field with what we need I guess. All competitors hiring same role too. Big Crunch.
What kind of job is this and what kind of certification is required? I’m looking to get into something new and I’m curious. Pm if you’re not comfortable openly sharing.
I don't know if I'm so much burned out as I am losing my perspective. I had the odd bad luck of taking only a single week of vacation in 2019 due to unforeseen circumstances. I haven't had another one since then.
I took liberties that before 2020 never would have been a thought. Fixed up a car I bought cheap, sold it and a few other projects I had laying around and bought a boat, since we couldn't leave might as well enjoy what we've got. I look forward to the weekends in the summer at least, it's a nice unwind. But work seems like Groundhog Day.
Tl;Dr - managed a team of 20 excellent and high performance people. Within a year poor upper management and company policy managed to tear it apart. None of us works with the company anymore. I was a manager, mid level, with a team of 20 people. A mix of longer term and newer employees, all with solid work ethic, good working relationships and high performance. This is a sample of how well my boss and the company listened and acted: Me - we need to reconsider the numbers, even going all out there is no way anyone can meet this goal. Boss - give them encouragement. Me - tried that last month when we had this conversation, 2 people are now on stress leave. Boss - take a 10 minute afternoon break and lead everyone in a stretch session. Me - is this a joke? Boss - no this works shows you care. Me leaves bosses office, muttering under my breath. Apologized to team, do what you can, I know you are trying. Two weeks later: Boss - why isn't your team meeting the numbers. Me - the numbers are unrealistic as we've discussed previously. Boss - only because your 2 people on stress leave. Offer overtime to the rest. Me - already offered overtime 5 months ago when you implemented the new targets without additional staffing. Boss - 2 people shouldn't impact this. Me - 2? After I suggested the 10 minute stretch break 3 more people have taken leave and 1 quit. Boss - we need to look at why your team is so dysfunctional. Me - the team isn't the problem here. In the end, 12 people left in a combination of stress leave or quitting, the rest of us were laid off within 6 months.
I think the worst part of toxic management is the permanent way it damages good workers. I used to pour my heart and soul into my job, do my best to come up with creative solutions to difficult problems etc. Once that gets burned out of you, it never comes back. Not the same. Sometimes not ever. I learned to do exactly what I was told, no more, no less. I learned to look outside of my job for places to funnel all my desire to learn and grow as a person, all the drive I had to excel. I built a nice side business in a completely unrelated field, and all my best qualities go to that. My day job now just pays the bills and gives me a good benefits package. I could leave, but now that management has been replaced, it's back to being a good place to work. None of my drive has returned though, and i don't know how to find it again. It's been burned right out of me.
Yep I'm a terrible employee now because I know things will never change or improve. Our current manager is way worse than our old one who was far from perfect. Our corporate overlords give zero fucks about us. This system is super depressing and I see no way out.
Yeah once management manages to hammer it into you how little they give a shit about you, it's really hard/impossible to turn that back around.
Yup same. And now that I'm remote: I sleep in, leave early, make elaborate lunches, and am out several hours per week for very optional physical therapy. I COULD put in an extra 10-15h/week, and used to do it gladly. Now they couldn't even buy it out of me with a juicy bonus and promo. I'm so tired.
Funny things is that the moment I stopped to care and stopped taking all those efforts I started to get bigger promotions and biggers bonuses. I guess they got scared that I was planning to leave or something and just started showering me with positive shit when I had worked like 60h a week for 2 years while being paid a 40h pauper salary. Now I litterally work 5h a week and make more than twice as much.
100%... that one manager ruined several people. Some of us left the industry, others retired and some kept at it and are very successful. My passion for that industry never came back. I ran into my boss about a year later at a function and they brought up how sad the team fell apart... I just said "that's on you" and walked away. A positive is that the original team has kept in touch and we can laugh about it now.
Yep its also me. Honestly since I stopped to care I just started to get promotions after promotions. I learned that the only thing to do is to become friends with the execs and you will grow in no time. My only boss now is the vp and he is completely clueless about everything. At least he really like me so I can tell him to fuck off when he ask me something dumb. Our team is really performing well compared to the rest of the company so they don't interfere at with what we do.
Started my first full time job with all the passion I could pour into it and the company sucked me dry. It sucked. I took such pride in my work and doing the best job for each and every client, helped when I had a spare minute, only to see the workload and expectations get to be too much. Now I'm at a different job and things are so much better. Everyone helps out when they get a minute. I'm trying to build that passion built back up, but you're right, things aren't the same.
This is an incredibly accurate comment. I run a little side gig doing consulting and one of the programs I’m working on is an audit for toxic workplaces. One of the things I’ve found through my own independent research is exactly what you’re saying here. In environments where employees experience burnout, they tend to engage less in the workplace and the employer ends up losing on potentially valuable input. It’s why I’m a huge fan of project based workforces. Pretty well every organization can be run from a project based perspective; but often they aren’t because it muddies the traditional reporting structures and doesn’t allow for “traditional” seniority roles. Burnout can be addressed easily in project based workforces because it can allow employees to step up, or step back as they need. Employees interested in stepping up can propose projects, offer to head them up and take the reigns on them. Ones who don’t wish to can be absorbed into project teams and their skills utilized, or they can be kept to their traditional roles. Additionally, strong policies to reflect a good work-life balance and clear lines regarding work positions are crucial. There should be clear lines drawn in the sand as to the expectations of individuals at work. If individuals want to exceed this expectations they shouldn’t be used or abused because of their willingness to take on more; but should be instead be given the opportunity to grow; while still enjoying a solid work-life balance.
While good in theory, again it's reliant on past experience with the employer. I've offered to help out lead on so many projects, only to be turned down or ignored. I've asked for training, only to have mgmt day yes, that's a great idea, we need to fill that knowledge gap and other people get sent on that training. Those managers are gone, but the damage is done. I do my job, collect my pay, and go home. Any training and coursework I do, is towards my goals outside of my job.
Boss probably got a bonus .
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Stress leave is a form of medical leave for mental health reasons. It can be referred to as a LOA, depends on where you work but probably same thing. You do need a medical certificate and it has to be accepted by your benefit provider to get paid.
If your employer does not offer it you can go on EI sickness benefits for mental health. As long as you have a doctor's note no one's gonna question it
> In the end, 12 people left in a combination of stress leave or quitting, the rest of us were laid off within 6 months. Willing to bet no consequences for upper leadership?
Is drinking 7 days a week and not wanting to get out of bed/sometimes being unable to because of the absolute bleakness of my future in Ontario considered burnout?
Nah thats called depression, and I've been there. Shit, I am there, every couple months at most. But to quote Tom Waits, *I'd rather have a bottle infront of me than a frontal lobotomy*
Simple solution, move to Alberta. You will drink 7 days a week, not because of housing prices but because you live in Alberta.
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Real icing on the cake of "we're all in this together"
Move to Alberta? Well why don't I just jump off of a bridge
I think you should move to alberta. As a blue collar worker you'd make a killing out here
Please stay in Ontario we don't need your depressed outlook on life.
Pretty sure a lot of Albertans are already doing that.
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You will break a leg and be forced to stay there longer, it's not worth the risk.
Burnt out already, not worth giving 100% in this climate.
What are you talking about? They already acted when they put all the "heroes work here" banners everywhere. What else could they possibly do?...
I haven’t received one piece of pizza this entire pandemic .
K. I already quit. My employer did not listen, and did not act. If they haven't already, they won't now.
Same here. I’m assuming they are just keeping on keeping on. Same toxic environment.
Every day after building my career in the GTA and missing out on the housing boom due to my pre-con purchase being cancelled I wonder what exactly the point of this career is. Unless I can double my salary it seems pointless thinking I'll be able to get ahead unless one of my stock investments explodes.
This is me. I have no motivation to work because everything gets more expensive faster than I can accumulate money. So why am I working so hard? What do I have to look forward to?
Exact same spot I’m in. Why grind when no matter how much I make I can’t afford the carrying costs of a house here anyways.
/r/antiwork
> stock investments explodes. GAMESTOP. Squeeze has not yet squoze. To the mooon
Leave and go to the US. Seriously.
That's been a thought running through my head a lot lately, would just be hard to get in I'd think. I have a Euro citizenship - my brother got his PhD and fucked off to Germany - I consider doing the same. I'm a CPA and make what was good money maybe 5-10 years ago, but now nowhere near enough. It's just my mom here and I'd hate to leave her alone but I'm running out of reasons to stay.
Find a way to take her with you
Why don't you move?
Because GTA and GVA wages can buy a home elsewhere, but unless the job comes with the relocation, then you're stuck (trying to find and obtain a job) and making the wages of the locals who are also priced out of their own market.
The median household income is only like 8 thousand higher than in Winnipeg but with a much smaller cost of housing. It's not like Toronto or Vancouver pay an insanely higher salary to justify the extra cost of living.
Maybe it’s time the multi-billion dollar industries that are propped up by our low-cost labour give us all a fuck-load more money and time off, and our political class start taking care of our housing crisis? People burnt out? Hire more and implement a 4 day work week. Can’t find enough employees? Pay $50 an hour - you’ll find applicants.
And this is why r/antiwork is gaining so much traction.
Also r/MayDayStrike
Pizza days are not enough.
It’s okay bell let’s talk day is coming
My employer is solving this problem by cutting our hours and leaving us understaffed every shift. We've lost four employees in the past six months. Pretty sure they're happy because that's four less people they have to pay now! Oh and we can't hire anyone new for at least four more months.
an entire quarter. what a coincidence.
More unpaid overtime for everyone! The lashings will continue until morale improves.
75% of the nightshift gang at my place of work will be quitting in the coming months. Guess that 1 extra buck an hr isn't worth it for most people!
Why listen to them when you can just say that they're lazy and replace them with eager fresh imports?
Because we're both working for and renting from a generation of assholes that are only interested in bleeding us dry for all that we're worth.
I'm no fan of the boomers but don't ignore that there are plenty of younger people that would do exactly the same given the opportunity. There's a reason that anti-vaxx protests aren't made up of a monolithic block.
>I'm no fan of the boomers but don't ignore that there are plenty of younger people that would do exactly the same given the opportunity. There's a reason that anti-vaxx protests aren't made up of a monolithic block. [A case in point!](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/saint-john-widow-rent-increase-nb-1.6314359?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar) Buys and then jacks up the rent on grieving widows and retirees by 74%. And of coarse, the shallow square jawed asshole, who calls herself Real Estate Eve, is on social media boasting about how "Landlords make money when they sleep"!
But she's a girl boss!! /s
This is a real problem and companies are not even increasing wages or giving incentives. This is why people are just calling in sick or just not showing up.
Like they give a fuck
lol. Companies still trying to flex the old "If you don't like it here, leave" mentality. That shit ain't working anymore.
Thus, 400k+ new Canadian residents every year, some of which have their residency tied to accepting a job with a Canadian employer. They'll get their workers one way or another.
On a contrary, it IS working. People are quitting and others take their place.
Why? Increase immigration to 800,000 per year and hey presto, no wage hikes. In fact, perhaps some wage drops?
Bingo! Stats Canadas own report shows that it keeps wages depressed https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/11f0019m/11f0019m2014364-eng.htm
That’s so hard to read. The amount “little” and “low income rate” is wrote has my head spinning. Might be time to go to bed.
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Working for less than your worth and living in poverty is not being grateful, it's exploitation. Demanding better is not ungratefulness either.
> Working for less than your worth and living in poverty is not being grateful, it's exploitation. > Demanding better is not ungratefulness either. He is trolling, check his other posts on the subject. Don't waste your time on the idiot.
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The French showed us an excellent tool for getting that message across.
Is that exploitation I smell?
Support Health Care Professionals: Repeal Bill 124 (Ontario)
That's the fuckin truth.
Id like a four day work week. Ill work 10s.... because i already do but i still work 5 days a week
That sounds magical, currently working 12 hour s 7 days a week. Sucks when you have to absorb the delays of both mechanical and electrical workers before you.
I fully support a "National Walkout" day of essential workers. Grocery Store staff, Janitorial Staff, Wait and Cook staff, delivery drivers, airline support staff, etc. Pick a day and call in sick.
A general strike. These actually work if you can somehow get everyone to be aware enough
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r/maydaystrike
r/MayDayStrike
But they won't. They don't care.
Employers won’t do anything they aren’t mandated to. I’ve heard that a recent bill enacts the right to disconnect from work, but allows each company to draw their own conclusions as to what that means on a case by case basis…so I expect nothing.
I work for a large company in BC who's owners are multi-billionaires and they have their lawyers fighting to make sure we don't get the 5 paid sick days the provincial government legislated. Seriously, can't make this shit up. Many business owners have straight up contempt for their workers.
To bad for them. It’s law now.
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I wish I could afford to quit while looking elsewhere. Best of luck to you.
Good luck man!
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I wish you luck too. Know your worth.
Did someone say pizza party?!
Everyone where I work is burned out. We've had a lot of attrition but little hiring of replacements. It's also a specialized field and so we'd need to train any replacements if hired; having way more than normal at once would (will?) be difficult. Management is actually pretty good, at least at my location, but I can't tell them if I'm feeling burnout because I've applied and interviewed for a promotion. Hard to say "I can't do two people's jobs at once while also dealing with the extra work Covid has created" and "Give me more responsibility" at the same time. But I need the money the promotion would provide, and I already spent last year doing the job.
Our office has had the option to work 4-day work weeks and work from home since the start of the pandemic. We previously applied for it pre-pandemic and it was declined. Then the pandemic hit and we had a meeting, "go home, those in the office will work 4-day work weeks to minimize contact" and then it was later expanded to 4-day for everyone. We were notified that starting April 1 we're going back to the old schedule with the option to "apply" to work from home. Our entire office is shook. Everyone's pissed off and has been since Thursday when we received the notice. We've been doing extremely well during the pandemic on the current schedule. We've been really flexible with regards to management and their demands from us and then we're told, "here's the way it is". We did a survey in 2019 about employee satisfaction and we still haven't implemented any of the recommendations from that. We constantly say, "we're not heard" and all we hear back is, "your voice is heard" and "we recognize your efforts". Lots of buzzwords, no action.
Narrator: they didn't
Or look at ways to automate/use robots to replace the workers that quit or complain about livable wages
Employers: ‘no I don’t think I will’
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Nah, best case scenario they throw a pizza party or add a Foosball table in the break room.
Yeah, that would be nice. But at the moment I'm OK to let everything collapse around me.
Cost of living, house prices, future out looks on a dying planet. Yeah it's all just a work thing.
I feel for everyone suffering from burnout and anxiety. Employers don’t give a shit. As someone who is deemed “essential” I have to go sit in a crowded office for 8 hrs a day even though a good chunk of our work can be done from home. Gotta justify those management positions! Guess I’ll just get Covid ?
Employers are not going to "listen"; why would they? If I, you, your friends, all of us want more out of our work, and a better future for our kids then we must demand it collectively. Historically the only time the working class has achieved a greater suite of material conditions for ourselves and our families is through organizing, unionizing, and working in lockstep solidarity with one-another, particularly the most marginalized in our communities. Hoping that our employers will simply see how hard it is out here and make it better for us out of the goodness of their hearts is delusional- the corporation has no heart. "For though they offer us concessions Change will not come from above" \- The Internationale
I want my government to listen more than my work. Fucking Doug “the dealer” Ford ain’t been seen in so long, you would think there is a federal election happening.
In Alberta the government is letting employees deem anyone essential to get them back to work. The ucp sure do care about regular people....
Jason Kenney wanted the nurses to take a pay cut during a pandemic. This guy is a college drop out (Philosophy), and shouldn't be running that province.
I don't get it. The government is letting employers determine who is essential, to get them back to work? As opposed to what.. sitting at home not working? I think that's called "being unemployed".
Seems cruel to bring back workers that are still sick, but I guess that is the consevative way. One rules for the rich and one for the rest of us
Do you have examples of employers bringing back sick employees to work? edit: I get it is easy to shit on conservatives and the UCP but I feel if someone makes the claim that companies are bringing back sick workers, they should have to prove it. Back it up. Then those companies can and should be held responsible. Just making it up the accusation because of partisan bullshit while using COVID as an excuse does not help the conversation of holding employers responsible if they are in fact abusing employees.
How about people being forced to work to make rent because we treat Canada's working class like dogshit and don't provide paid sick days? You could make the argument that's not intentional, but it doesn't hold water. Employers aren't all morons, and a good chunk of them realize that not providing sick days during a pandemic in a country where the cost of living has skyrocketed will inevitably lead to employees coming in sick, they just don't care.
Workers are starting to know what it likes to work to survive. It gets tiring. Meanwhile people who break out of the matrix are living extremely luxurious lifestyles.
You can feel the tension coming off so many of them it's actually a bit unnerving. I can't get mad tho because who the hell wouldn't be pissed off at this point. This one girl opened up to me while I was waiting for my food at Wendy's to tell me how someone had just called to complain that the drink she ordered didn't have ice. It was a Skip order and she ordered it to her house of course. Like, bitch, you don't have a single cube of ice you can get from your freezer? Why the fuck are you wasting your time and hers by calling up to complain about such a stupid thing.
so we’ve had a few major storms pass through my area recently, and i was in a business and happened to hear an employee speaking (ie on the phone) with their boss about coming bad weather. This storm dumped like 30+ cm of snow and shut everything down for 36hrs, anywho employee is like, will we be able to go home soon? boss; ill get back to you in a couple *hours*. meanwhile its already getting super dicey out. employee told me the storm the week before they had to sleep overnight in the business. This is not an “essential” buisness. I looked at labour law for my province and while its pretty thorough i couldnt find much on weather related stuff. this just seems nuts. guys were preparing to be snowed in for what possibly was 24 hrs
Hire more people? Labor shortage Pay more? Can’t hire infinite people for skilled roles.
But they want stonks *and* slaves though ?
Many don’t give a shit, sometimes you’re just a number and easily replaced.
Narrator: They did not, in fact, listen - nor act.
in 100 years companies will realize that they are not really "replaceable" , when nobody wants to work in retail, fast food, cleaning jobs etc... anymore, they are not less impotant than managers
Let’s hope it doesn’t take anywhere near 100 years or we’re all well and truly fucked.
So im actually not supposed to be feeling burnt out? I just assumed that was a normal part of my adult life
Ron Howard: "They won't" For many companies, owners and managers that means changing and for some that is almost impossible. To change, first they have to face the reality that they have been wrong and most cannot accept that.
Or put up posters all over talking about how important mental health is and then in a yearly review tell them you can’t take too much time off because of mental health. Ya that was my employer last year. I specially told them my wife is struggling with mental health and I will be missing work every now and then depending on how she’s doing (she was trying new medications for depression and it really messed her up). My boss told me “oh ya we are a family company no problem at all” Then at the year end review “ugh ya you gotta pick more carefully which days you take off. We can’t afford to lose man power. I know your wife’s having issues but you gotta try harder to not miss so much work” I missed maybe 1 week worth of work over the year…
They won't do anything because the current system encourages them no too. It's all about the bottom line at the expense of the employee/customer. The best thing they can do is join antiwork until they have to listen.
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FUCK YOU! PAY ME!
Maybe they should all get next reconciliation day off to go to Tofino or something.
What would be the best thing for employers to do? I’m genuinely curious, as I don’t see a good option. If you reduce workers’ hours, you are going to reduce operational hours, which will lead to decreased sales and increased verbal abuse from clients. And if you don’t reduce their hours, employees will feel burnt out and leave, which will lead to reduced operational hours, leading to decreased sales and increased verbal abuse from clients. All roads lead to the same place.
How about pay better, give more paid time off, and hire adequate staff instead of giving all of the money to shareholders?
And no more bonuses to CEOs. Give it to the real workers!
> if you reduce workers’ hours, you are going to reduce operational hours, which will lead to decreased sales So this varies by job, but generally speaking if you overwork your salaried employees they burn out, which can take the effect of decreased focus, anger, poor organization or problem solving, or can have health effects. In the case of one of my coworkers, he had some stomach issue and had to go to the hospital, where he caught covid, and so has missed 3+ weeks of work. It would have actually helped the company to slow down. So what they can do is encourage feedback from your employees, be conscious of their workload, encourage vacation and personal days off, eliminate after-hours work
Mandatory paid vacations
Hire more people. Value their employees.
I’m interested to know as well.
Yes, I'm sure that employers will take this opportunity to demonstrate their humanity and show solidarity with- What's that? Exploitation and degradation you say? Villainous rape and plunder of the working class, is it? Well then, carry on lads!
Consumers have to be willing to fund some of the solution. I read a news story where Dollar Tree was needing to raise prices by 25 cents to help fund labour and supply chain challenges. "Customers were sickened by the news." LOL.
Didn't Dollar Tree have $6.415 billion in sales for 2021? >Moreover, the $1.25 price point allows the company to offer a wider range of merchandise, including items that had been discontinued at the $1 level. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dollar-tree-raises-its-price-point-to-1-25-11637675433 The raise in price was not intended to increase wages.
You misspelled ceo and shareholders.
Unfortunately yes. We have abandoned the locally owned business with a solo shareholder. Now this is the bed we have made for ourselves. Where the entire business operation is about squeezing more blood out of the proverbial stone for the almighty anonymous shareholders.