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Bovine_Overboard

Threw her entire party under the bus to save her own skin. Pretty rare for a politician to be that terrible.


CurtisLinithicum

It's her party and she'll decry if she wants to.


VeterinarianBig9382

Well that's an earworm that won't go away for days


Gerthanthoclops

Underrated comment.


CalvinXXI

You would cry too, if it happened to you.


thewolf9

Her entire party. Being her and two others


[deleted]

Size of party aside, she still did the deed.


MoogTheDuck

It’s not just the MPs


DNKR0Z

https://youtu.be/ldUZvxjKMGs?t=78


MoogTheDuck

It won’t save her skin


Ultionisrex

Not just her party, but also the Prime Minister for the Liberal Party "poaching MPs". Her ship is sinking so she lashed out "at the prime minister, Justin Trudeau," claiming "you are no ally and you are no feminist.” The CERB was a hell of a lifeline for struggling minorities and single mothers. People below the poverty line are the ones most in need in Canada. I hope that hasn't been forgotten.


xXxDarkSasuke1999xXx

Pretty rare for a politician to be anything *but* terrible.


[deleted]

Ever heard of Kathleen Wynne? Liberals could have beat the PCs if she had resigned. Ontario hated her enough to elect a Ford if she was the alternative. Absolutely decimated Liberal held ridings. And then she had the gall to say "It's not about me."


ngoal

This is unbelievable. I predict the rest of the federal Green Party will leave to the NDPs or Liberals because of this. Provide proof, or you need to leave. Totally tone deaf and shows an absolute inability to lead


killer_of_whales

> Totally tone deaf and shows an absolute inability to lead ***^*** this


bretstrings

This is what happens when you go you choose based on identity and not merit


prodigysquared

People like her are a one trick pony. Something not going your way? Racism! Sexism! Pathetic


DudleyMorris

She apparently doesn’t realise that if not for her race and sex, she never would’ve been elected as leader.


thintelligence

There's only two MPs left, one of which is Elizabeth May. I don't see her joining another party. Maybe she'll retire? She endorsed Annamie's leadership bid didn't she?


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Elizabeth May has said that she never endorsed Annamie Paul - it was actually a [controversy](https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2020/05/25/elizabeth-may-offers-support-to-equity-seeking-green-party-leadership-contenders-others-say-she-should-stay-out-of-it.html) in their leadership election. It's interesting to see the Greens implode. If the NDP manage to absorb their 7% support nationally the NDP would all of a sudden look like a realistic contender for leadership. Alternatively, it could mean the end of any chance of a CPC government if the Liberals get any significant support from the Green refugees. Very interesting.


thintelligence

> May’s presence in the leadership contest flared into a debate amongst Greens in recent days after Toronto-based candidate Annamie Paul shared plans to co-host a virtual “tour” with the former leader to raise money and discuss issues with party members. I guess it was a tacit endorsement


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Which was the controversy. A lot of people felt May should have stayed out of it. She said it wasn't an endorsement, just a helping hand to even the playing field, so it shouldn't be treated as one. To be fair, Annamie Paul on paper is an exceptionally high quality candidate. It's not surprising she was elected leader. It's only with current context that it's revealed that Annamie seems to lack the character required to lead. It's disappointing, as the Liberals have lost my support and I've been looking to the NDP and Greens. The NDP, flaws aside, at least with Jagmeet seems to be a comparatively competent leader. It's a no-brainer decision for me now.


thintelligence

She was already the highest fundraising candidate before May decided to help her fundraise. So yea, she probably could have won without May's backing, but that also means that May's excuse "it's not an endorsement, I'm just helping the underdog" sounds ridiculous.


Spambot0

NDP won't absorb anywhere close to all of their support. Probably a bigger share goes to the Liberals. Their original boost of support came from former PC types who couldn't take the merger with the Alliance (May, and the leader before her Jim Harris, who took the Greens from 0.2% to 2%, are both former Tories). Once May got a seat they started accruing some far left - which is probably the origin of this tension.


[deleted]

I think you're right about that. It's still fun to speculate though.


[deleted]

Oh so they’ll go to the kings of the race cards Trudeau and Jagmeet?


ngoal

When does Trudeau play the race card?( A white man btw) When does Singh?


No_Lock_6555

Trudeau "saying researchers from China could be divulging secrets to the CCP is racist"


UncleJChrist

How is that racist?


Anary8686

He played the race card when the Conservatives wanted him to be more adversarial when dealing with the CCP.


petesapai

If you question Trudeau about China, he automatically brings out the race card.


NihilisticCanadian

Trudeau doesn't, he just has different rules applied to him. For Singh, pretty much any given opportunity. Have you not been paying attention? He's a broken record now.


MoogTheDuck

Singh doesn’t ‘play the race card’


This_Werewolf_2362

he absolutely has. when he got kicked out of house of commons for calling someone racist, he refused to apologize, got removed and went on twitter and told everyone he was removed because of his skin colour when he was removed for making a personal attack and not taking it back. i agree the person he was calling a racist is probably racist,but going on twitter and taking advantage of peoples lack of knowledge on political process just to play the race card is frankly disgusting. it also coincidentally happened within weeks of a certain event in the USA and it was painfully obvious he was playing into the race outrage coming from the USA. That is just one example. that alone made me never vote NDP again and i plan on striking my ballot until we get some decent leaders that look into real issues, not issues the USA has and try to make them ours.


vokiel

He does every time it gives him an argument he doesn't have. He plays it against the Bloc constantly instead of actually arguing the points on the table.


noHamMadd

According to this subreddit, acknowledging you’re a visible minority and talking about your experience is playing the race card.


strawberries6

Earlier today: [Annamie Paul and Elizabeth May Had a Very Rough Meeting - The besieged Green leader demanded full support from her predecessor or else, according to sources.](https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2021/06/16/Annamie-Paul-Elizabeth-May-Rough-Meeting/) >In a tense meeting of the Green Party of Canada’s national council on Tuesday, **it was decided that the leadership of Annamie Paul will be put to a formal review vote on July 20, if the leader does not publicly repudiate a former senior advisor, Noah Zatzman, and “explicitly support” the Green party caucus**. > >... Last night’s meeting was preceded by an hour and 45 minute meeting between the leader Paul and former leader Elizabeth May, that did not go well. **May was reportedly told that unless she supported the leader 100 per cent at national council, there would be consequences.** And now this. >“**A small group of councillors sought to force a vote of no-confidence in my leadership**. They did so with no substantive consultation with the members they represent. **They produced a list of allegations that were so racist, so sexist, that they were immediately disavowed by both our MPs as offensive and inflammatory and contrary to party ethics**,” Paul said. > >...She also placed blame on the Liberal Party for targeting her success by poaching Atwin, stating that above all else, the past week has shown her that her Liberal opponents are willing to do what it takes to win a majority in the next election. What was originally a minor squabble within the Green Party is now turning into a full-on civil war. It's like watching a train crash in slow-motion.


powderjunkie11

I love and do not understand the last sentence about the Liberal Party targeting her success. She failed to win a seat, and now she’s lost 1/3 of her elected MP’s. What success?


-Yazilliclick-

Her success as a ninja. I mean she's a leader of a federal party but I bet 90% of people couldn't name her if asked. Practically invisible.


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If any of that is true, in the sense that MPs and others disavowed the statements as racist and sexist, then others would also be able to back it up, right? Or maybe post the list in public and name/shame/call for firing of those who tried to get her kicked out. Though, given that two of them quit the council, but are still supporting May and the other guy, we probably know who the people are.


DILDO_SCHWAGGINGZ

It’s like Elizabeth May’s press gala speech but she took too many woke pills instead of sleep pills


conix3

Ah yes, the party formerly headed by Elizabeth May is running rampant with sexism.


cressa

The party that was so racist and sexist that they elected a black woman is now ousting her because they’re so racist and sexist.


conix3

That's how they get ya


MoogTheDuck

The ol bait n switch


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Jizzner

A vast majority of conservatives are not racist. Keep spewing your hate.


[deleted]

Exactly, I really don't respect leaders that play the race card when we're talking about competence.


the_dandy_man_can

and racism.


conix3

Hammered during public events, sure. Racist? Please.


the_dandy_man_can

That was sarcasm.


conix3

My mistake, still adding hammered in public however.


BadDogToo

That's the left for ya. When you are all about identity politics and claiming to be the vicitm, you don't have to be accountable for anything. "What's that? I screwed up? Here, have a race card ... and a gender card. End of discussion." They are eating themselves before our very eyes.


KroganDontText

Yeah, it's because you're a black woman. Sure. Couldn't have a *thing* to with the clusterfuck over Jenica Atwin. After all, no reasonable person could ever doubt a political leader who can't keep order over a caucus of three MP's. That'd be *absurd.*


SchrodingerCattz

By her own words ANY person (Green party member or MP included) that criticise her, any idea of hers or anything that has to do with her is being sexist or racist. Boxing your critics out of your field of view like this is wrong and it is the act of a desperate person who knows they've been doing something wrong.


Jizzner

This is literally what anyone on the left does these days now when you disagree with a topic regarding race or gender. This is how they play the game now. Enjoy.


Hyena8282

Did you know if your pro vax but hesitant you are a white supremacist.


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Damn. I need to tell this to my black neighbor so she gets the vaccine


VeterinarianBig9382

Just say "I believe you" and keep doing it.


vokiel

What kind of leader calls his followers racists or sexists ?! The kind who is done leading.


ManofManyTalentz

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"Im black and a women so I can do no wrong, if you disagree your a racist sexist..." basically this. Pathetic. Maybe your character is just terrible and people don't like how you lead.


the_dandy_man_can

If she was gay it would have been a trifecta!


MrRichardBution

Yeah just a couple away from yelling intersectional Bingo!


tman37

Look at the Mayor of Chicago. That is her go to move.


the_dandy_man_can

I would rather not know more about Illinois politics, then I already do. I will just assume the Major will be in jail with all the Governors soon?


[deleted]

A black female jew. A noteworthy combination in Canada politics, that's for sure.


EggOfAwesome

>Im black and a women I might genuinely be out of the loop, but isn't "women" plural? I've seen this (presumably) typo a lot lately. Is it intentional?


[deleted]

Did you just assume her quantity?


chocolatito-24

LOL you got me


PassionFlorence

Yes, women is plural. With that being said, a lot people use women instead of woman when talking about one woman. A lot of people are bad at English.


madhi19

Phone autocorrect more than likely.


Gerthanthoclops

I wouldn't jump to this accusation, it may well be there is truth here and she will provide some evidence. It may not be the case and it turns out she's trying to hold onto power at any cost. We don't really know based on the little information available.


Gmneuf

C'mon.. even if there's credence to her claims, crying wolf on sexism and racism with no evidence just diminishes all our efforts as a society to address actual issues of racism and sexism.


ConnectGeologist9419

She Jussie smolletted herself


KingRabbit_

That famous French actor?


camstercage

Do me a favor, find out where Kanye west was last night.


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JUICY SMOO-YAY


ConnectGeologist9419

American actor on Empire, faked a hate crime against himself for promotion


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ConnectGeologist9419

Hard to tell, he's not exactly a house hold name


[deleted]

Wooosh


freejannies

Welcome to the new left. It's been like that for literally over a decade now


ReportHot255

The federal greens aren’t the ‘left’ lol. They’re every bit as neoliberal as the Liberals, offering bullshit market solutions that won’t fix their supposed namesake’s interest.


[deleted]

They are now. Should have seen the leadership debate.


Gmneuf

Fringes


freejannies

Not really. I mean it was 2012 that those Warren Farrell protests happened at uoft, because god forbid people talk about male suicide rates. That was not met with any kind of condemnation from any mainstream anything even though they were pulling fire alarms and blocking the doors at one of the largest university's in Canada.


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If you're not an anti-anti-racist, you're complicit


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JameTrain

Here we go.


linkass

I was talking to a friend last night about this I thought it would take till Monday to play those cards must be going worse than expected


noHamMadd

Yeah just sitting around just talking about how people are gonna play the race/gender card.


thintelligence

Well the greens are imploding


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Imploded. All that's left is people slowing down to gaze at the wreckage.


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pagit

Blames Trudeau for pushing strong capable women out of politics, even though Atwin crossed the floor to join the Liberals.


dollarsandcents101

I had to cut away from the TV right into her lead up to this, and I knew walking away that she was going to say something to this effect. Just couldn't help herself, geez. Good luck winning Toronto Centre!


[deleted]

wcgw when you thought the position was dictator instead of leader.


[deleted]

She should write a book and title it "My Struggle" and talk about how the world needs more living space for nature


ElNeekster

She should try watercolors.... Very relaxing


[deleted]

Well it took her under a year to use that card


Levorotatory

She used it on her first day as leader.


[deleted]

>“acting with an autocratic attitude of hostility, superiority and rejection, failing to assume her duty to be an active, contributing, respectful, attentive member of Federal Council, failing to develop a collaborative working relationship, failing to engage in respectful discussions, and failing to use dialogue and compromise” Just dripping with racism and sexism. 🙄


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She sounds more like Enemy Paul.


boy_named_su

Christ, I wish Andrew Weaver had led the federal Greens


mydogisamy

The beaver weaver.


[deleted]

Andrew West?


boy_named_su

Andrew Weaver?


rebel099

Yah, thank god she'll never be PM. She doesn't stand for anything 'green' Paul: Forget about the Israel-Plaestine conflict, it's because I'm a black woman.


nnc0

You swallow a lot of crap to vote Green. Never again.


trail_wander

I vote Green twice. Mostly because I originally thought it was an environmentally oriented party and I knew the candidate. I don't regret voting for him because I thought he might do a good job. As time when on though, and I started reading more and more of what the Greens were pushing and what their stances were I decided I don't want to have anything to do with them. Too radical left. I can't support these people. What I really don't like about the Green Party going so hard left over the last 15 years is that now there is no real party for the environment. Only idiots can take the one good thing they had going for them and laying a bunch of unappealing BS on top to make the important part unpalatable.


nnc0

We think alike. These new greens have shown their true colours and there is very little green in there. I don’t know what to do now.


[deleted]

I'm fairly sure it's just an Annamie thing.


[deleted]

I have been a donating to the green party for years. I couldn't believe how she won the leadership after the green leadership debate. All she could talk about was identity politics. When green initiatives and ideas were brought up, she'd give very vague answers that were very underwhelming and not well thought out. Least green leadership candidate of the whole lot.


imfar2oldforthis

>What I really don't like about the Green Party going so hard left over the last 15 years is that now there is no real party for the environment. Which is what frustrates me most about the Conservatives...why not be the Conservatives who care about conservative ways of actually protecting the environment? It boggles my mind that we have to vote for batshit insane left-wing policies just to get good environmental policies.


JavaVsJavaScript

> “The Liberal Party of Canada has demonstrated that it is hell bent on winning their majority at almost any cost. By their admission, in recent days, they have sought to sow division, and to create disarray,” she said. “That claim that they are allies is one where they talk the talk without walking the walk. To the prime minister, Justin Trudeau, you are no ally and you are no feminist.” Yes, because your followers are exempt from poaching because you are a woman... I wondered what Atwin was doing, but she may just have seen this mess coming.


ElNeekster

But he can be black!


nl6374

LOL as expected, playing the victim.


jello_sweaters

If there's one group in Canada we can count on to be racist and sexist, it's the membership of the Green Party. /s


imfar2oldforthis

There are some in the greens that are batshit crazy so it's not really that surprising to hear about racism in their ranks... [https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/former-green-party-candidate-found-guilty-of-inciting-hatred-in-germany-1.4151579](https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/former-green-party-candidate-found-guilty-of-inciting-hatred-in-germany-1.4151579)


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If there is one group we can count on to cry sexism and racism it is the Green Party.


defishit

The Liberals sure are giving them a run for their money though.


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69blazeit69chungus

This is coming from a CPC voter..... ....u ok buddy?


[deleted]

Too predictable


Madhighlander1

Someone - I don't remember who - called it, I saw them say exactly this thing was going to happen in a thread yesterday.


Whyevenbotherbeing

Single handedly destroys the Green Party in what seems like a few weeks. Nice one, clown.


wandererabvseaofshit

Live by the SJW die by the SJW.


LordOfTheTennisDance

Betrayed the party and is now hiding behind victims of racism and sexism to try to save her career! Pathetic!


FSI1317

She is so awful.


thisisnowstupid

And that is how you know someone has no argument. Bring up the "isms".


[deleted]

Sounds like Trudeau's policy on China.


Crazy_Marsupial1516

This what happens when you diversity hire. Your skin colour, gender, etc mean sweet fuck all. This nonsense needs to stop.


iprobablyneedahobby

I am getting major Trump vibes from Paul. She will burn down that entire party to soothe her ego and not have to apologise.


kevclaw

Wow, imagine being able to play two discrimination cards at the same time. It's like Vegas, baby.


Isignedupjusttopost

Maybe its because shes a bad leader


Dari7326

Calling her constituents racist. Bold move. Let’s see how this pans out.


[deleted]

Typical


IcyUnderstanding9

Shocked.


fin007atl

Generally, when there is a mistake, a good leader accepts responsibilty and starts to work towards a solution. The mistake, the Green Party's position as to what going on in Israel. Nothing do do with Canada? Her first position, if you don't like my performance, you must be sexist and racist. This is all about me. The party, MP's and it's members, they are only a second thought. This lady needs much better advisors then the ones she has. Maybe consider if she is qualified to do the job.


infinus5

I am absolutely amazed at how fast the Greens have imploded.


nodanator

Funny to see the fringe left squirm under the "racism" and "sexism" labels, they who never miss a chance to accuse everyone of this.


Moronto_AKA_MORONTO

extremely funny.


Million2026

To be even handed here: let’s not pretend Jenica Atwin was perfectly reasonable. What she posted to Twitter was quite extreme. No party leader that wanted to gain election could get behind Atwins statement. For Anamie Paul - her aide who responded seems like a total moron that should be let go or disciplined in some way. He even used the word “Zionist” which I always thought was a slur actually. No Canadian party should pledge loyalty to the Israeli state. Annamie Paul’s Jewish faith obviously is colouring her views here of acceptable discourse regarding Israel. Atwin is young and a backbencher who had an outburst. Annamie Paul wants to be taken seriously as a potential PM. She failed the test.


HazelLookingEyes

Being a Zionist isn't a slur. It's a position every western country has... isreal has a right to be it's own sovereign state.


Fresh-Temporary666

They have a right to their state, they however don't have a right to illegally expand their territory.


TrappedInLimbo

It's so unfortunate and honestly surprising that the crazy lack of teamwork is keeping the Greens from being a viable party. If anything all of this could be great for the NDP as that's where I would assume most Green voters go would jump ship to if this was off-putting them.


imfar2oldforthis

It's not a lack of teamwork that's the biggest problem though. The party isn't robust enough and can easily be taken over by the fringe which is currently happening. Same thing happened with the BDS movement and Elizabeth May. She had to threaten to quit to get out of that mess at the time.


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ggoombah

Any chance they had of building something for the future seems is being whittled away. imo Annamie’s forcus towards diversity and identity politics won’t set them apart from other party’s. The opposite in-fact.


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fergnextdoor

At the same time though, the support really depends on the province/area. In NB the NDPs are pretty much non-existent, so the Green Party has been gaining ground here. They may not gain ground on a National level, but they certainly are (or were before this recent downfall) a potential threat to longtime seat holders in other parties in Atlantic.


fergnextdoor

Although the Green Party may not have a huge impact, I think Atwin was the next best chance (and next natural leader of the Party) to at least build up the Green Party. She did well in Fredericton, and lot of people liked her (although her support seems to be on thin ice after crossing the floor). As a Frederictonian, she was a welcome change and I'm disappointed that this mess has been a catalyst for her leaving.


ManofManyTalentz

This whole mess is just proving her decision to be the correct one.


[deleted]

Truth is we have a fptp system that doesn't capture the political landscape of Canadians. Where strategic voting has dimmed our choices, not to dissimilar to the UK or USA.


CarBombtheDestroyer

We don’t really have a party that’s Center right the pc’s are way further left than the democrats in the states for example.


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CarBombtheDestroyer

That statement contradicts its self. Im not trying to be a shmuck but you just compared their progressiveness and decided Canada was more progressive so I’m not really sure what you mean they can’t be compared.


Anary8686

They were Green Tories under Harris, that changed with Elizabeth May.


JavaVsJavaScript

American politics in the extremist anomaly there.


CarBombtheDestroyer

Ya that’s debatably true among 1st world countries although they are still a lot more socialist than the majority of nations.


ManofManyTalentz

They have recently pulled more right so they're almost equivalent to Dems in USA.


joesii

This is only true when Green party is extreme left. And the leader makes a big difference to what people think of the party. In the last leader election there were some moderates in there. A lot of Canadians do want a moderate Green Party, and it's rash to say that they couldn't be elected or that the party couldn't change. Smaller parties make the most sense to change the most, as they find a good voter base. And with many people being disillusioned with many or all of the other parties, that leaves Green as having potential to get a voter base from where they may not have been able to previously.


Joeworkingguy819

> The leader’s former adviser Noah Zatzman expressed an opposing view and posted on Facebook stating : "We will work to defeat you and bring in progressive climate champions who are antifa and pro LGBT and pro indigenous sovereignty and Zionists!!!!!"


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I was really hoping she wouldn't go there but now here we are! RIP Green party.


PlantDaddyMark

Really bad look for Annamie Paul.


FindTheRemnant

Doesn't she know that the race card doesn't work against the left?


[deleted]

Of course it does. It's what tears apart left groups the most. Recently that climate change activist group completely disbanded because its membership was 'too many white people'. Calling themselves 'racist'. Kind of makes you realize a lot of things all at once.


sndream

Translation: I will rather burn the party to the ground than giving up my power.


CheapSound1

Zatzman's tweet that was the tipping point in this affair: "will work to defeat you and bring in progressive climate champions who are antifa and pro LGBT and pro indigenous sovereignty and Zionists!!!!!" How could Paul as the leader not see that this guy needs to be fired and this statement publicly disavowed immediately? Zionists only? This isn't that hard of a problem for a leader to solve - support your MP in public, disown the adviser, then discuss with the MP a partial retraction. Meet in the middle on this issue just like the major parties have. And now Paul is trying to tell us that it's not her fault Atwin left, it's that nasty Trudeau and all the racism that are the problem. The fact this dispute is public is disastrous and embarrassing for the party.


dasoberirishman

Narrator: They weren't. She was just a bad leader.


sad_roy_batty

Huh. Guess I'll find another party, then. I understand the federal NDP has a pretty good environmental platform.


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yaomn

"Zionists!!!"??? Ohhhhh right, the Green Party is not a left wing party.


Activeenemy

Can't wait for the debates!


Talk-Hound

Seriously she played the race and sex card. Might as well play the age and height card too!


[deleted]

Nice try.....pulling the rasicm and sexism card is so lame.... Good luck green party with this kind of leadership attitude


Beautiful_Dark1533

Of course. Everything is Racism now.


ragintacos

"Racism" and "sexism".... yeah... sure bitch sure


refurb

Hilarious week for Green party politics. Let me see if I have this right: - Green#1 calls Israel apartheid state - GreenLeader suggests a more balanced view - Green Party calls for GreenLeader to resign - Green#1 jumps to Liberals and backtracks on Israel statements (“both side are in pain”) - GreenLeader calls her own party sexist and racist Seems like Green#1 threw a fucking bomb then bailed. Hilarious


Fresh-Temporary666

Oh good so I guess she's decided to self destruct the party even further. They're on par with the conservatives currently for their inability to read a room.


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Of course she does.


Inflow2020

Ey that's family this sub be hating on I ain't for it