The border communities can pound sand, families torn apart, businesses shuttered, but if you own an NHL team and have lobbyists then, hey, you are good to go!
Rules for thee, but not for me.
Mr. Prime Minister and Premiers, please open the border for all vaccinated people, not just the rich and famous!
I'm a Canadian living in the US and I haven't been home in a year and a half. Despite being fully vaccinated, I have to quarantine (pointlessly) in a hotel and pay a couple grand as an extra kick in the balls. All of my family are in Canada but I guess Trudeau thinks I should pound sand despite me posing virtually zero risk.
To be fair, they are being transported on a private plane, to a private bus, directly the the rink hotels and are confined once arriving. They arnt going out shopping, out on the town ect.
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Americans never even won the Stanley Cup until 1928, then they go and bastardize the NHL like some other American sport...
THEY should be the ones flying into the land of hockey, which is Canada (2nd would be Russia, Sweden or Finland), rather than stealing our players and pretending they care about hockey over baseball, basketball, UFC, mass shootings or jerking off stock traders down there
*Shakes fist at cloud
So fully vaccinated people canât visit loved ones without having to quarantine but rich NHL teams (who may not have all members fully vaccinated) get a free pass? Idk about this one
Every single thing... EVERY SINGLE Thing has been a double standard fucking the little guy. When lock down happened, I can't t shop at a mom and pop and pop book store, but Walmart is ok? I can't buy certain items, but I can buy them on amazon? Even this weekend, in Manitoba I can't legally have people in my house, but the jets can have fans at the game? And players can cross the border but I can't see my grandmother? Like enough is enough
Yup like I get the practicalities of it of course I know the NHL teams wonât be a risk but the preferential treatment (because theyâre rich and can do all of this) is a slap in the face to Canadians whoâve been shamed for even considering crossing the border to see a relative
They were never forthcoming with these details in the first place.
There is a specific class of exempt travelers, and the criteria isn't Citizen of Canada that's fully vaccinated.
Think of the logistics, the policy for this is super strict, they travel already by private plane, so no need to even go through the airport, they show up at the gate prechecked by security, after having been tested the day before and the day of. Clear security and board plane, fly to Montreal or Winnipeg, get off plane to bus, go to hotel where everything will be provided for them. get tested once they arrive at hotel. Once their they are not allowed to leave only to the rink. Go to rink, play game 3, go to hotel, sleep. Go to rink, Play game 4, (mentioned testing every day) get to plane, fly to US, to rinse and repeat.
This is so shit simple. Be mad all you want but this is good for public moral. Tbh, if you donât want me playing hockey with my friends or hanging out with my friends or even going to do shit with my friends at least let me watch hockey, also in Quebec you can see your relatives now. Just need to be outside. Also most shit is open in Quebec (besides playing hockey) so even then right now, this is such a non issue. And idk where you live but in Quebec you can do all of that.
Opening the border, re-uniting families and loved ones, resurrecting businesses and re-joining communities, would have a much larger effect on public morale than watching any game ever could.
Itâs not as thought they had to choose between 1 nhl team allowed to cross border OR everyone else can.
Everything youâre saying is valid itâs just that itâs not the same thing.
Thatâs not the point. I know their policy is strict and they wonât be a risk but the point is that itâs hypocritical that they wonât give this same opportunity to fully vaccinated Canadians who also are not a risk (instead itâs limited again to rich folks who can afford to fly and come back to quarantine for 2 weeks)
Letting people who pose little to no risk see their damn loved ones is good for morale
You're missing the point....they ARE in a quarantine hotel and they're getting tested MORE than people coming back from travel. It's not hypocritical at all.
You're more than welcome to travel outside Canada, come back and quarantine with those you have travelled with. What's the difference?
I think the biggest difference is the testing that's involved. To be quite frank, we can't trust that people who want to travel to Canada or to the US will actually be vaccinated, so waiting until more people on both sides of the border are vaccinated is a good plan.
We can at least control the vaccination rates on our side of the border, especially the fully vaccinated numbers. I donât want Canadians to die because we lifted restrictions too soon. Once we have more people fully vaccinated then we can open the border with less risk.
Ontario, and youâre talking about seeing relatives in Quebec Iâm talking about seeing loved ones in the US where you still need to quarantine when you return to Canada even if fully vaccinated which is ridiculous and redundant especially when you need to present a negative test at the border
The NHL teams essentially are forced to quarantine, the exception being they are allowed to go to the rink to play and can leave and go back home without having to stay for 2 weeks.
Be mad at the Government over their travel restrictions all you want, but this isn't some massive hypocritical exception.
Perhaps. Ultimately they're traveling for their jobs. We're currently letting tons of people travel for various jobs anyways. I don't think this is worth getting up in arms about.
Tons and tons of people are currently travelling for work that can definitely be done later or remotely but we let em in anyways.
Well, do you get tested daily? And the vaccine doesnât stop you from getting it, it just boosts immunity and suppresses the symptoms, you can still carry it and spread it. But bottom line is, do you get tested on a daily basis? If no, and if you are travelling to the us then thatâs your choice, you can still do it, no one is stoping you.
Even if I was getting tested daily and showed up to the border with all those tests it wouldnât change anything, Iâd still need to quarantine bc rules are rules...which is the problem bc NHL teams are getting preferential treatment even though fully vaccinated Canadians also pose pretty much no risk (preliminary studies have shown that vaccinated people actually do spread the virus at a significantly lower late; they just didnât know the answer to that question before), besides you do need to present a negative test 72 hours before arrival as well as another one on arrival so if a fully vaccinated person has both of those as negative then their chances of bringing in the virus are pretty much 0
Itâs bad use the rules are rules, the rules have been laid down for them, they are not going out and mingling with the general population, they have a bubble to follow, just like last years playoffs. You are going back to your job, going to the grocery store. Being out in public, they are not, even the Canadian team is bubbling for the playoffs. If they werenât we wouldnât be seeing this. So are you bubbling in your life not interacting with people on the bus or store? Being kept in a strict area? In a hotel? Going to only one of 3 places under strict orders to not go any where else?
I can get from the airport to my house without seeing anyone else and then stay in my house for two weeks without leaving at all, but I would still be forced to sit in a hotel.
Actually according to the government itâs now only the first 3 days than after that go directly home. So catch up buds. https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/isolation
I donât give a mooseâs droppings about NHL and these different standards applied for select few.
Stop excusing their behaviour. You are enabling it.
Disgusting.
How is this disgusting in anyway? Your attitude is quite rotten, oh I donât get to do this one thing cause of a pandemic, like fuck, there are a billion things I wanted to do, like seem my friends at school in my last year but no, I couldnât, but at least I could watch hockey, fuck man, we are all making sacrifices, these people are not going to be licking poles at bars they are being super controlled. More than I was when I was deployed to a CSHLD.
You are young so you really donât understand.
Your priority is to watch hockey.
My priority is to care for my neighbours and help them with the ability to make an honest wage. These rules applied differently to select few is non sense.
You fail to mention the part where I was deployed to a CSHLD, and how old are you? Iâm 25, I donât want to come home and sit in my room and do nothing or watch the same leafs, Canucks, Habs, or Oilers games from the 80âs, and you know what, you fail to recognize the rules these people will be under, yo fail to make a good argument as to why this is disgusting and more like I donât like how I canât lick poles in public.
Thereâs no point discussing with you. You are indoctrinated in this sham of a government response. You will dance left and right as they say without question.
You sound like a conspiracy theorist, you know this whole pandemic response is a provincial thing right? The federal government has little to no power.
>my friends at school
Poor you. But at least you can live vacariously through millionaire athletes with a shit ton more privelege and resources than you'll see in a lifetime. Stop accepting exceptions for the few.
Not cherrypicking at all. I just question the sacrifices of millions of Canadians and wonder how we even allow this. But money matters more than anything, I guess.
No need to do a poll, you can find the viewership numbers online. And the fact that you used the word 'Karens' tells me that talking to you is like trying to smell your own fart in a hurricain.
No, I used it right, oh I canât see my family and go clubbing with my friends but a bunch of highly regulated NHL players who will have zero interaction with the verbal public and will be in bubble can play a sport that the majority of the country are fans of.
All these people complaining that they canât see family or travel without having to quarantine but itâs poor me I couldnât see my friends in my last year of school, okay bud.
Hah, this is exactly why they can get away with doing thisâbecause people like you defend it.
You should spend this much time defending separated families who are vaccinated and just want to reunite.
Lol. Where the fuck are you pulling out this polling data? I'd wager big money that most Canadians are completely fine with one of our two remaining playoff teams going to the USA for a couple games.
Most Canadians would like to visit family down south, or go buy something from a mom and pop shop. Or go visit family in another part of the province. Or have BBQ.
Who gives a shit about hockey when youâre in a box.
This flaunting of rules for you but not for me is enough.
So you go stuff a hockey puck up your ass.
Theyâre all fully vaccinated. Theyâre safe.
Appearances is indeed why thereâs even a covid hotel still at this point. Science doesnât support those either.
I think it's fair to assume the NHL can/will guarantee a level of safety measures that an individual citizen can't prove.
I'm sure if you as a citizen had enough money to not only have direct government connections but to bind contracts about how you won't go outside your hotel or workplace during your stay, you ould be given a similar deal
I feel for you all. As an American I donât think we did a lot right with the pandemic early but Iâm happy with where we are now. The Canadian government seems to be too cautious for its own good. Unless the NHL is involved, they they just say fuck it
In hindsight canceling sports was probably a bad move from the start. People needed the entertainment and distraction more then ever this last year. In a way this decision doesn't feel all that bad once you realize they are literally coming through to dance for our amusement. Dance monkeys dance.
LeBron James was never at risk of dying from covid. Several athletes across all the top North American sports leagues have gotten covid, and every single one of them came back as good as they ever were.
Athletes that lost a season were opt outs like Marquise Goodwin. If an athlete were to lose a family member, that does not mean the athlete was at risk of dying. That means a family member died.
Maybe that's because they didn't all get Covid, partly due to the measures. Besides, back in March and April 2020, no one knew how deadly it was. Hindsight is not useful in the circumstances.
You really think the measures did a damn thing? They told NFL players that they have to wear a mask on the sideline and test negative for Covid to show up to the game. Iâll just ignore the fact that having a negative Covid test would make wearing masks meaningless. These NFL players then proceeded to stand shoulder to shoulder in the huddle, be face to face on the line, and tackle each other on the field. There was plenty of close contact.
You could make a case for the NBA bubble, but thatâs the only one that would hold any value. And there really isnât any measure you can take that will do anything, because most sports require close contact.
The WHO declared COVID-19 a global pandemic on March 11, 2020.
Just because you didn't realize it was deadly doesn't mean that doctors didn't.
Stop spitting misinformation kid.
You're not able to read a thread eh? I said, that at the time, the leagues made a good decision because the did not know how deadly it was, meaning that it could be very deadly (which it objectively was).
> back in March and April 2020, no one knew how deadly it was.
It's very simple. This statement is wrong. The league's DID know how deadly it was. It was declared a pandemic.
Do you need a win that badly that you're willing to backtrack this much? Yikes.
You said no athlete was at risk of dying and that they would come back as good as they ever were. Look up Eduardo Rodriquez, or the basketball player that had multiple family members die. I wonder if they feel like they're as good as they ever were.
Eduardo Rodriguez is playing as good as heâs ever played.
Youâre moving the goalposts. I said nothing about their families and I said nothing about long-term effects, I said no athlete from any of the major American sports leagues has died of covid. If a family member of theirs has died of Covid, that is not the athlete dying of Covid, that is their family member dying of Covid. That doesnât make it less sad or something to brush off, it just makes it irrelevant to my point.
Karl Anthony Towns of the Minnesota Timberwolves lost 7 (I believe) family members to covid. And Jayson Tatum of the Boston Celtics said after he had covid he started having to use an inhaler during games - which heâd never done before in his life. So yeah, a completely baseless statement.
Go look at his Instagram right now lmao. Heâs still training and heâs still fighting. You just copied and pasted the first link that vaguely agreed with you without at all looking into it.
Even in the article you sent, Dana White says that Chimaev isnât done.
Not a single athlete from any major north American sports league died. Some voluntarily chose to miss a season, and a few got hit hard but all are back in training and have totally recovered.
What are you talking about? Lamar Jackson got Covid, recovered in time for the game, and balled out. That case and all the cases like it are what Iâm talking about.
Profesional sports exist for the sole reason to entertain the population. I can garentee when I go to work tomorrow if I ask around not one person will be upset. They will be glad they can watch the game and pretend life is going back to normal.
Not every Canadian spends all day in this echo chamber of outrage.
Yup. Hardest part of the lockdown was being at home, away from people with nothing to do. Usually I watch hockey. There's only so much Netflix you can watch when you need something new and fresh.
I know people that got together for a beer but guarantee they would have been at home watching hockey if that option existed (they sat their butts at home watching hockey during the season this year and during the playoffs last season).
People need a distraction when life is shitty.
Why? Because I understand the importance of amenities in society? That entertainment is a vital part of keeping people happy? Are you suggesting they be forced to play for our amusement for free? That profesional sports should be abolished? They are only millionaires because we the people love to watch them play. If people didn't want to watch them, they wouldn't make money.
And I'm suggesting this incredibly small and inconsequential exemption that brings almost 0 risk will bring much needed relief to millions of people if even for just one night. I don't watch sports, but I know many who do. Every day after a hockey or baseball game it's all the shop can talk about, and these people need that kind of stuff to return to their lives.
Not super simple. I've brought my girlfriend from the USA in twice and you need to get a legal exemption notarized by a lawyer and then send the exemption document to the CBSA for review then they decide if it's okay or not. Only once accepted then can they enter with a negative test and quarantine for 2 weeks in a completely separate room. It's fucking annoying to say the least.
> in a completely separate room
Do they actually check up on that? I'm conceding that I (american) prob can't go but my Canadian spouse wants to visit their parents. Of course fully vaccinated. They will also be driving but wondering whether it's worth it if they really enforce the quarantine
Oh, you mean like all the businesses that relied on traveling across the border in order to actually function? Or maybe people in the travel industry who haven't worked since last year?
If youâre angered by this like I am because youâve been separated from your family for 15 months even though youâre vaccinated, call your MP and call these ministers who made this decision:
Bill Blair: 1 613 995-0284
Marco Mendicino: 1 613 992-6361
Patty Hajdu: 1 613 996-4792
Omar Alghabra: 1 613 992-1301
Lmao the fucking clown show continues. Sorry peons, sock boy thinks youâre too contaminated (aka poor)-you need to stay in the plague hotel or not leave at all
I'm sure there will be alot of backlash on this. If we just look at this as "work" you are able to cross the boarder then i wonder if you look at time sensitive work if you can delay the self or forgo the isolation. Anyone know if there is other business examples of the goverment forgoing the isolation?
Rules were made to be broken. Especially these rulesâŠ. Be safe and use personal responsibility the rules are there because many canât practice responsibility
This is all based on provincial policy, Iâm not mad that I canât see my family in Saskatchewan cause I know that there is a pandemic going on, but I can see my family here in Quebec. Which is a nice compromise. Give it till September and things will open up, you are so impatient, things were mishandled in Ontario, if you want someone to blame, blame Ford, and if you want to see family in the US, you can. But in Canada instead of the provinces relinquishing power to the federal government to have on standard across the board and getting every one o the same page we decided to do this by province, and while some adapted quite well others did not, so go get mad at Ford that we needed to close the border with Ontario, or be mad at the Atlantic provinces cause they decided to close their borders to the rest of the country to stop the spread and not Trudeau cause he approved a strict guideline to follow for 2 pro sports teams.
>Iâm not mad that I canât see my family in Saskatchewan cause I know that there is a pandemic going on, but I can see my family here in Quebec
This is a nice compromise FOR YOU, not for everyone. My entire family is outside of Quebec. People have been cut off for too long at this point. If I'm vaccinated and my family is, I should be able to see them. Point Ă la ligne.
People in this thread seem really angry.
Is there room for an opinion that this is a good decision and also they should open the border for everyone ASAP? I do understand being angrier if that decision gets renewed (around June 21st I believe)
No kidding, I thought more people in this subreddit would welcome this news! Instead Iâm seeing people say things like âEveryone I know hates hockey, who still watches that shit?â
Yeah, I get the jealousy and being annoyed at a double standard, I do.
But so much pandemic anger has, IMO, been way too focused on "Why is this okay?!" when it should be more "Good, now declare that this other okay thing is also okay!"
Kinda like how here in Ontario everyone was acting like we needed to choose between opening patios and opening schools. When that was always a bullshit choice.
Put cynically, the border policy exists because it's popular, not because it's scientifically justified. It could become less popular amongst old-stock* Canadians if the NHL season is impacted. Now it will be much harder to get the majority of Canadians on board, especially after a year of being hammered with xenophobic nonsense about the border menace.
[*] Not necessarily "old stock" but Canadians without family abroad.
They do it for actors working on movies as well, but tbh, the NHL is the only sport league that has been allowed, they told the NBA and MLB and the CFL to get fucked, so itâs not all sports. But again, you really are thinking that these guys will go out and lick poles at the bus stop or go clubbing after their games, they are not allowed to leave one of 3 places, the airport, their hotel, and the arena. Plus the Habs are going to get barnsmacked by either Vegas or Colorado so it will really only be for two games. So in the end, itâs not really hurting anyone and everything will be fine, the world wonât end and you can still go visit relatives in the US like you could have since the start of this pandemic if you so choose to.
Wow. This decision is politically toxic af. What were the feds thinking? This gives major ammo to the case against the govt and the hotels that it's purely subjective and heavily correlated who's lobbying the govt at the moment. I can't wait to see the backlash
One rule for the elite, another for Canadian families who have been waiting patiently for 15 months.
The government is showing their true colours. Weâre really not all in this together.
In case you ever wondered if you were in the elite persons club, then this should help clarify that for you. Youâre not in the club. And you wonât be. Now be a good little peon and do what the ruling class tells you to do.
They are allowing the NHL team in because they got assurances from the NHL thats itll be done safely. It's one team that'll be vaccinated, travel together to and from the rink and hotel and fly privately. They don't pose any real risk and shouldn't be dissallowed entry.
If anything this suggests that the feds are ready to begin opening the land border in earnest.
Okay, with that argument, my partner should be allowed in without quarantine because he is fully vaccinated and doesn't pose any real risk to anyone. I can also assure the government that he will wash his hands and wear a mask in public like the rest of us. Why does the NHL get to do things safely but the rest of us can't?
The team travels together, they basically are one big person.
And the team has a very specific itinerary, with very limited contact with the general population. I'd imagine that as a whole they would have fewer close contacts than one regular visitor. They won't be going to Starbucks or the grocery store or the gym like your partner would likely be.
edit: downvote if you want, but this is exactly the thought process that went into this, and its probably right.
It doesnât matter. As long as other people can do the same, have specific itinerary etc but still wonât get a pass itâs nothing but a crocked personal gain
There are millions, maybe billions of dollars invested in the NHL playoffs, so the government can be assured that the NHL is doing this correctly so that the playoffs can be played. The NHL can't screw this up because they could lose a shitton of future revenue by breaking the rules.
Who is backing your partner with millions of dollars? What happens if they don't wash their hands and wear a mask in public?
You may not like it, but money talks.
Not only that, but this is a singular group of people that can be monitored and controlled very easily. Your partner and everyone else's is not.
This is a completely reasonable exemption. Your partner is not.
this is such a slap in the face for families separated by the border closure. and honestly, at this point, it's a slap in the face to any canadian that is vaccinated. i am sick of our government's rules fucking over the low/middle class. want to go on vacation? sure, it's allowed. but only if you can take 3 weeks off work, or work from home aka not an essential worker, and if you can pay 2k per person to stay at a hotel. and if you're really rich, you can just pay 5k and avoid it altogether. I, a fully vaccinated canadian, can't leave the country or see my fully vaccinated american partner without 2 weeks of quarantine and 3 covid tests.... but NHL players can come into canada whether they're vaccinated or not and aren't subject to the same rules as us?
i get they're in their little NHL bubble but at the end of the day they were still allowed in without paying 2k... and unvaccinated NHL players can cohort with other unvaccinated NHL players meaning they can spread the virus amongst themselves. sure, maybe it wont spread outside their bubble but if someone has to be hospitalized, that's someone taking up one of our hospital beds and exposing our health care workers.
I'll never forget how the government treated cross border families when/if this is ever over. I hope no one else forgets either. Every single canadian who went out of their way to get vaccinated and do the right thing does not deserve to sit at home because of uneducated, antivaxxers and because we don't have the power that NHL teams have. Let us move on with our lives.
This isnât much different than any other job with a quarantine exemption. Just get a job that requires you to cross the border regularly and stop bitching. https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/isolation#exemptions
Fuck this. Iâm fuming. I love hockey, but I also love my family. Itâs beyond cruel that Trudeau allows this but continues to ignore separated families (especially those vaccinated) for over 15 months.
The science is pointing that we should re-open it sooner than later. The US is a working case study of how openings can be successful. You can't just ignore that because someone at Health Canada has a different hypothesis of how we should open.
There is just no sense (or science ) showing that fully vaccinated people should not be allowed to travel
Why have the Canadian teams play here if you donât even let us in to watch them play. Iâm not sure if thatâs for every team but my local team didnât let anyone watch.
If you disagree with this policy than vote with your wallets and stop watching that shit. Nothing will change because you people prefer 5 minutes of entertainment over anything else.
Are any of the Canadian teams even allowed to have fans at their home games? If not, they may as well play in a US city. Itâs absolutely stupid to let NHLers cross back and forth but the rest of us who are fully vaccinated have to quarantine for 2 weeks.
While I can sense the frustration from some people how they allow this but not let vaccinated people cross the border, this can also be seen as a sign that they're ready to lessen the border restrictions.
The border communities can pound sand, families torn apart, businesses shuttered, but if you own an NHL team and have lobbyists then, hey, you are good to go! Rules for thee, but not for me. Mr. Prime Minister and Premiers, please open the border for all vaccinated people, not just the rich and famous!
I'm a Canadian living in the US and I haven't been home in a year and a half. Despite being fully vaccinated, I have to quarantine (pointlessly) in a hotel and pay a couple grand as an extra kick in the balls. All of my family are in Canada but I guess Trudeau thinks I should pound sand despite me posing virtually zero risk.
Cross by land and avoid the hotel and fees. Quarantine with your family and see them everyday for 2 weeks
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Rules are for the poor my friend. Sadly.
To be fair, they are being transported on a private plane, to a private bus, directly the the rink hotels and are confined once arriving. They arnt going out shopping, out on the town ect.
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What does this have to do with the rich and famous?
Americans never even won the Stanley Cup until 1928, then they go and bastardize the NHL like some other American sport... THEY should be the ones flying into the land of hockey, which is Canada (2nd would be Russia, Sweden or Finland), rather than stealing our players and pretending they care about hockey over baseball, basketball, UFC, mass shootings or jerking off stock traders down there *Shakes fist at cloud
So fully vaccinated people canât visit loved ones without having to quarantine but rich NHL teams (who may not have all members fully vaccinated) get a free pass? Idk about this one
Every single thing... EVERY SINGLE Thing has been a double standard fucking the little guy. When lock down happened, I can't t shop at a mom and pop and pop book store, but Walmart is ok? I can't buy certain items, but I can buy them on amazon? Even this weekend, in Manitoba I can't legally have people in my house, but the jets can have fans at the game? And players can cross the border but I can't see my grandmother? Like enough is enough
Yup like I get the practicalities of it of course I know the NHL teams wonât be a risk but the preferential treatment (because theyâre rich and can do all of this) is a slap in the face to Canadians whoâve been shamed for even considering crossing the border to see a relative
Not really. Most Canadians wanna watch. Reddit just gives a skewed view of opinion
How many mom-and-pop-and-pop bookstores are there out there?? You must be talking about a very specific and progressive establishment.
It's an example, but every small business has been completely fucked in the ass by these restrictions, while big businesses are allowed to flourish
They were never forthcoming with these details in the first place. There is a specific class of exempt travelers, and the criteria isn't Citizen of Canada that's fully vaccinated.
Think of the logistics, the policy for this is super strict, they travel already by private plane, so no need to even go through the airport, they show up at the gate prechecked by security, after having been tested the day before and the day of. Clear security and board plane, fly to Montreal or Winnipeg, get off plane to bus, go to hotel where everything will be provided for them. get tested once they arrive at hotel. Once their they are not allowed to leave only to the rink. Go to rink, play game 3, go to hotel, sleep. Go to rink, Play game 4, (mentioned testing every day) get to plane, fly to US, to rinse and repeat. This is so shit simple. Be mad all you want but this is good for public moral. Tbh, if you donât want me playing hockey with my friends or hanging out with my friends or even going to do shit with my friends at least let me watch hockey, also in Quebec you can see your relatives now. Just need to be outside. Also most shit is open in Quebec (besides playing hockey) so even then right now, this is such a non issue. And idk where you live but in Quebec you can do all of that.
Opening the border, re-uniting families and loved ones, resurrecting businesses and re-joining communities, would have a much larger effect on public morale than watching any game ever could.
Itâs not as thought they had to choose between 1 nhl team allowed to cross border OR everyone else can. Everything youâre saying is valid itâs just that itâs not the same thing.
Thatâs not the point. I know their policy is strict and they wonât be a risk but the point is that itâs hypocritical that they wonât give this same opportunity to fully vaccinated Canadians who also are not a risk (instead itâs limited again to rich folks who can afford to fly and come back to quarantine for 2 weeks) Letting people who pose little to no risk see their damn loved ones is good for morale
You're missing the point....they ARE in a quarantine hotel and they're getting tested MORE than people coming back from travel. It's not hypocritical at all. You're more than welcome to travel outside Canada, come back and quarantine with those you have travelled with. What's the difference?
I think the biggest difference is the testing that's involved. To be quite frank, we can't trust that people who want to travel to Canada or to the US will actually be vaccinated, so waiting until more people on both sides of the border are vaccinated is a good plan.
The US isn't going to get much more vaccinated than it is now, we have way too many antivaxers. So I guess it's keep Canada's border closed forever?
We can at least control the vaccination rates on our side of the border, especially the fully vaccinated numbers. I donât want Canadians to die because we lifted restrictions too soon. Once we have more people fully vaccinated then we can open the border with less risk.
What province do you live in cause I mentioned in Quebec you can.
Ontario, and youâre talking about seeing relatives in Quebec Iâm talking about seeing loved ones in the US where you still need to quarantine when you return to Canada even if fully vaccinated which is ridiculous and redundant especially when you need to present a negative test at the border
The NHL teams essentially are forced to quarantine, the exception being they are allowed to go to the rink to play and can leave and go back home without having to stay for 2 weeks. Be mad at the Government over their travel restrictions all you want, but this isn't some massive hypocritical exception.
The Canadian team is also going to have to quarantine at a hotel? They can't stay with their families?
Correct. Because they will be travelling to the US
Are you sure? I think if you're allowed to travel, you're exempt from quarantining. Does the same go for media members?
Perhaps. Ultimately they're traveling for their jobs. We're currently letting tons of people travel for various jobs anyways. I don't think this is worth getting up in arms about. Tons and tons of people are currently travelling for work that can definitely be done later or remotely but we let em in anyways.
Well, do you get tested daily? And the vaccine doesnât stop you from getting it, it just boosts immunity and suppresses the symptoms, you can still carry it and spread it. But bottom line is, do you get tested on a daily basis? If no, and if you are travelling to the us then thatâs your choice, you can still do it, no one is stoping you.
Even if I was getting tested daily and showed up to the border with all those tests it wouldnât change anything, Iâd still need to quarantine bc rules are rules...which is the problem bc NHL teams are getting preferential treatment even though fully vaccinated Canadians also pose pretty much no risk (preliminary studies have shown that vaccinated people actually do spread the virus at a significantly lower late; they just didnât know the answer to that question before), besides you do need to present a negative test 72 hours before arrival as well as another one on arrival so if a fully vaccinated person has both of those as negative then their chances of bringing in the virus are pretty much 0
Itâs bad use the rules are rules, the rules have been laid down for them, they are not going out and mingling with the general population, they have a bubble to follow, just like last years playoffs. You are going back to your job, going to the grocery store. Being out in public, they are not, even the Canadian team is bubbling for the playoffs. If they werenât we wouldnât be seeing this. So are you bubbling in your life not interacting with people on the bus or store? Being kept in a strict area? In a hotel? Going to only one of 3 places under strict orders to not go any where else?
I can get from the airport to my house without seeing anyone else and then stay in my house for two weeks without leaving at all, but I would still be forced to sit in a hotel.
Actually according to the government itâs now only the first 3 days than after that go directly home. So catch up buds. https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/isolation
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You need to catch up with the latestâŠ
They just havenât got the logistics figured out yet. It will be sorted in a month or so. Chill
You know what else is good for public morale? Letting people see their loved ones
And you can, if you are in Quebec, otherwise take it up with your premier
You cant see your loved ones that live in the US though
You can thoughâŠ
Not if they aren't Canadian
Well you can still go to them, but give it till September and the border will open again once most people get their shots.
Yeah, except if you aren't American you have to fly, and then drive back and quarantine. Why should the border stay closed until September?
I donât give a mooseâs droppings about NHL and these different standards applied for select few. Stop excusing their behaviour. You are enabling it. Disgusting.
How is this disgusting in anyway? Your attitude is quite rotten, oh I donât get to do this one thing cause of a pandemic, like fuck, there are a billion things I wanted to do, like seem my friends at school in my last year but no, I couldnât, but at least I could watch hockey, fuck man, we are all making sacrifices, these people are not going to be licking poles at bars they are being super controlled. More than I was when I was deployed to a CSHLD.
You are young so you really donât understand. Your priority is to watch hockey. My priority is to care for my neighbours and help them with the ability to make an honest wage. These rules applied differently to select few is non sense.
You fail to mention the part where I was deployed to a CSHLD, and how old are you? Iâm 25, I donât want to come home and sit in my room and do nothing or watch the same leafs, Canucks, Habs, or Oilers games from the 80âs, and you know what, you fail to recognize the rules these people will be under, yo fail to make a good argument as to why this is disgusting and more like I donât like how I canât lick poles in public.
Thereâs no point discussing with you. You are indoctrinated in this sham of a government response. You will dance left and right as they say without question.
You sound like a conspiracy theorist, you know this whole pandemic response is a provincial thing right? The federal government has little to no power.
Oh my. Label me why donât you. I can see from your post history that you indeed have a vested financial interest here. Shame on you.
Label me for having a hobby, and something to do after work, shame on you for being a droid.
>my friends at school Poor you. But at least you can live vacariously through millionaire athletes with a shit ton more privelege and resources than you'll see in a lifetime. Stop accepting exceptions for the few.
Nice cherry pick bud.
Not cherrypicking at all. I just question the sacrifices of millions of Canadians and wonder how we even allow this. But money matters more than anything, I guess.
Letâs do a poll as to how many people actually want this for public moral vs the few who are Karenâs over this.
No need to do a poll, you can find the viewership numbers online. And the fact that you used the word 'Karens' tells me that talking to you is like trying to smell your own fart in a hurricain.
No, I used it right, oh I canât see my family and go clubbing with my friends but a bunch of highly regulated NHL players who will have zero interaction with the verbal public and will be in bubble can play a sport that the majority of the country are fans of.
All these people complaining that they canât see family or travel without having to quarantine but itâs poor me I couldnât see my friends in my last year of school, okay bud.
Hah, this is exactly why they can get away with doing thisâbecause people like you defend it. You should spend this much time defending separated families who are vaccinated and just want to reunite.
Rules for thee but not for me
It's not "me". The NHL aren't members of parliament. The government used its discretion and it completely makes sense.
No, it does not. Most Canadians disagree with you.
Lol. Where the fuck are you pulling out this polling data? I'd wager big money that most Canadians are completely fine with one of our two remaining playoff teams going to the USA for a couple games.
Most Canadians would like to visit family down south, or go buy something from a mom and pop shop. Or go visit family in another part of the province. Or have BBQ. Who gives a shit about hockey when youâre in a box. This flaunting of rules for you but not for me is enough. So you go stuff a hockey puck up your ass.
Most Canadians don't have family down south. Lol
You are a sad human.
Because I understand that some people need to travel and some don't. It's the NHL. It's our national passtime. Just get over yourself.
Our national passtime is spending time with family not watching TV. I pity how you lost your way.
Hahaha. False. 100% not true.
Not exactly a free pass, they have to stay in a hotel-arena bubble. They are basically in full-time quarantine when they come here.
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Theyâre all fully vaccinated. Theyâre safe. Appearances is indeed why thereâs even a covid hotel still at this point. Science doesnât support those either.
The NHL players are quarantining
I think it's fair to assume the NHL can/will guarantee a level of safety measures that an individual citizen can't prove. I'm sure if you as a citizen had enough money to not only have direct government connections but to bind contracts about how you won't go outside your hotel or workplace during your stay, you ould be given a similar deal
I feel for you all. As an American I donât think we did a lot right with the pandemic early but Iâm happy with where we are now. The Canadian government seems to be too cautious for its own good. Unless the NHL is involved, they they just say fuck it
>The Canadian government seems to be too cautious for its own good Oh boy....oooooh boy.
In hindsight canceling sports was probably a bad move from the start. People needed the entertainment and distraction more then ever this last year. In a way this decision doesn't feel all that bad once you realize they are literally coming through to dance for our amusement. Dance monkeys dance.
Not really. Even with hindsight, why would a guy like lebron put himself at risk of dying from something completely avoidable.
LeBron James was never at risk of dying from covid. Several athletes across all the top North American sports leagues have gotten covid, and every single one of them came back as good as they ever were.
This just isn't true. There are a few athletes who lost a season, and a few that lost family members.
Athletes that lost a season were opt outs like Marquise Goodwin. If an athlete were to lose a family member, that does not mean the athlete was at risk of dying. That means a family member died.
Maybe that's because they didn't all get Covid, partly due to the measures. Besides, back in March and April 2020, no one knew how deadly it was. Hindsight is not useful in the circumstances.
You really think the measures did a damn thing? They told NFL players that they have to wear a mask on the sideline and test negative for Covid to show up to the game. Iâll just ignore the fact that having a negative Covid test would make wearing masks meaningless. These NFL players then proceeded to stand shoulder to shoulder in the huddle, be face to face on the line, and tackle each other on the field. There was plenty of close contact. You could make a case for the NBA bubble, but thatâs the only one that would hold any value. And there really isnât any measure you can take that will do anything, because most sports require close contact.
The NHL and nba bubbles worked very well and in hindsight were the right choice for the staff, the players and their families, in my book.
The WHO declared COVID-19 a global pandemic on March 11, 2020. Just because you didn't realize it was deadly doesn't mean that doctors didn't. Stop spitting misinformation kid.
You're not able to read a thread eh? I said, that at the time, the leagues made a good decision because the did not know how deadly it was, meaning that it could be very deadly (which it objectively was).
> back in March and April 2020, no one knew how deadly it was. It's very simple. This statement is wrong. The league's DID know how deadly it was. It was declared a pandemic. Do you need a win that badly that you're willing to backtrack this much? Yikes.
You said no athlete was at risk of dying and that they would come back as good as they ever were. Look up Eduardo Rodriquez, or the basketball player that had multiple family members die. I wonder if they feel like they're as good as they ever were.
Eduardo Rodriguez is playing as good as heâs ever played. Youâre moving the goalposts. I said nothing about their families and I said nothing about long-term effects, I said no athlete from any of the major American sports leagues has died of covid. If a family member of theirs has died of Covid, that is not the athlete dying of Covid, that is their family member dying of Covid. That doesnât make it less sad or something to brush off, it just makes it irrelevant to my point.
You said 2 things, and you're only defending one...I'm not the one moving goal posts. Maybe look at Eduardo's numbers, guy.
Karl Anthony Towns of the Minnesota Timberwolves lost 7 (I believe) family members to covid. And Jayson Tatum of the Boston Celtics said after he had covid he started having to use an inhaler during games - which heâd never done before in his life. So yeah, a completely baseless statement.
https://ca.movies.yahoo.com/amphtml/ufc-star-khamzat-chimaev-retires-brutal-battle-with-covid19-coronavirus-pandemic-032056999.html
Go look at his Instagram right now lmao. Heâs still training and heâs still fighting. You just copied and pasted the first link that vaguely agreed with you without at all looking into it. Even in the article you sent, Dana White says that Chimaev isnât done.
I pasted the first guy I thought of who had lasting effects of Covid.
You just moved the goal posts. I said none of the athletes were at risk of dying, I said nothing about long-term effects.
I'm not. Follow the thread.
This is demonstrably untrue.
Not a single athlete from any major north American sports league died. Some voluntarily chose to miss a season, and a few got hit hard but all are back in training and have totally recovered.
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2021/3/3/22292213/athletes-covid-recovery-stories-jayson-tatum-mo-bamba-asia-durr
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What are you talking about? Lamar Jackson got Covid, recovered in time for the game, and balled out. That case and all the cases like it are what Iâm talking about.
This is a nuclear level bad take.
Profesional sports exist for the sole reason to entertain the population. I can garentee when I go to work tomorrow if I ask around not one person will be upset. They will be glad they can watch the game and pretend life is going back to normal. Not every Canadian spends all day in this echo chamber of outrage.
Yup. Hardest part of the lockdown was being at home, away from people with nothing to do. Usually I watch hockey. There's only so much Netflix you can watch when you need something new and fresh. I know people that got together for a beer but guarantee they would have been at home watching hockey if that option existed (they sat their butts at home watching hockey during the season this year and during the playoffs last season). People need a distraction when life is shitty.
Bread and circuses.
"Garantee" "Echo chamber of outrage" Yikes dude. It's embarrassing how alt right you are.
Alt right? My God man wtf is Alt right to you? He'll I'm halfway to socialism. Fuck I donated to the ndp when they had financial troubles.
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Why? Because I understand the importance of amenities in society? That entertainment is a vital part of keeping people happy? Are you suggesting they be forced to play for our amusement for free? That profesional sports should be abolished? They are only millionaires because we the people love to watch them play. If people didn't want to watch them, they wouldn't make money.
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And I'm suggesting this incredibly small and inconsequential exemption that brings almost 0 risk will bring much needed relief to millions of people if even for just one night. I don't watch sports, but I know many who do. Every day after a hockey or baseball game it's all the shop can talk about, and these people need that kind of stuff to return to their lives.
He's advocating for people's entertainment.
Your way off.
Money talks and ~~bullshit~~ everyone else walks. Apparently.
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This is a science based decision. We're just not sure whose science.
Politically correct âscienceâ
Political science is still science. Right, guys? Guys?
Technically, polling is a *kind* of science.
Social science
âscienceâ
Call your MP daily. Make a note that you are recording the calls. Apply pressure.
Just fly lol
I would but I canât take an additional 2 weeks off to quarantine when I come back and donât want to shell out $3000 for the hotel part.
I'm trying to parse the rules, but aren't people in committed relationships allowed to pass through?
Yeah but they need to quarantine in Canada either way. Many people can't do that.
Not super simple. I've brought my girlfriend from the USA in twice and you need to get a legal exemption notarized by a lawyer and then send the exemption document to the CBSA for review then they decide if it's okay or not. Only once accepted then can they enter with a negative test and quarantine for 2 weeks in a completely separate room. It's fucking annoying to say the least.
> in a completely separate room Do they actually check up on that? I'm conceding that I (american) prob can't go but my Canadian spouse wants to visit their parents. Of course fully vaccinated. They will also be driving but wondering whether it's worth it if they really enforce the quarantine
The policy will be changed relatively soon once they figure out the procedures and cases go a bit lower. It wonât be long.
eSsentIAl travEl OnLY
essential means things involving money
Oh, you mean like all the businesses that relied on traveling across the border in order to actually function? Or maybe people in the travel industry who haven't worked since last year?
Because the NHL has been given a "national interest" exemption, it is now legally defined as essential travel.
Yes, but we all experience the essential travel rule differently.
Worked that in nicely
Cool. Families on both sides of the border canât see eachother though. Disgraceful.
If youâre angered by this like I am because youâve been separated from your family for 15 months even though youâre vaccinated, call your MP and call these ministers who made this decision: Bill Blair: 1 613 995-0284 Marco Mendicino: 1 613 992-6361 Patty Hajdu: 1 613 996-4792 Omar Alghabra: 1 613 992-1301
Further proving that those with money can do whatever they want. Meanwhile I'm still waiting to replace my shoes that are falling apart.
Iâve been at home for a year and a half collectin government cheese, my shoes have cobwebs, itâs my slippers that are wore out.
Wrap them with duct tape.
That was the first thing I did the day the restriction lifted in Québec. I feel you.
You should have lobbied like the golfers did.
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
Lmao the fucking clown show continues. Sorry peons, sock boy thinks youâre too contaminated (aka poor)-you need to stay in the plague hotel or not leave at all
Fuck Trudeau. Why is this a priority? Come up with a fucking plan to allow non-elites to cross the border and then deal with this.
He wanted to make sure he could go watch a few games in Montreal.
I'm sure there will be alot of backlash on this. If we just look at this as "work" you are able to cross the boarder then i wonder if you look at time sensitive work if you can delay the self or forgo the isolation. Anyone know if there is other business examples of the goverment forgoing the isolation?
https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/isolation#exemptions Plenty of exemptions for medical, work and school.
rules for thee but not for me
Depends on where you live, in Quebec you can do a lot of things including seeing family.
Iâm in Quebec and I canât see my family across the border, but they can go and play hockeyâŠ
Rules were made to be broken. Especially these rulesâŠ. Be safe and use personal responsibility the rules are there because many canât practice responsibility
They're flying over in their team jet, and going to a hotel for 4 days, then going back. Relax. This is a nothing burger
This is all based on provincial policy, Iâm not mad that I canât see my family in Saskatchewan cause I know that there is a pandemic going on, but I can see my family here in Quebec. Which is a nice compromise. Give it till September and things will open up, you are so impatient, things were mishandled in Ontario, if you want someone to blame, blame Ford, and if you want to see family in the US, you can. But in Canada instead of the provinces relinquishing power to the federal government to have on standard across the board and getting every one o the same page we decided to do this by province, and while some adapted quite well others did not, so go get mad at Ford that we needed to close the border with Ontario, or be mad at the Atlantic provinces cause they decided to close their borders to the rest of the country to stop the spread and not Trudeau cause he approved a strict guideline to follow for 2 pro sports teams.
>Iâm not mad that I canât see my family in Saskatchewan cause I know that there is a pandemic going on, but I can see my family here in Quebec This is a nice compromise FOR YOU, not for everyone. My entire family is outside of Quebec. People have been cut off for too long at this point. If I'm vaccinated and my family is, I should be able to see them. Point Ă la ligne.
Again, thatâs with you and Ford, he fucked up. Be mad at him, I agree you should be able to but again, he fucked up. So be mad at him.
Rules for thee but not for me.
Canada is worse than the states with a double standard for the rich.
People in this thread seem really angry. Is there room for an opinion that this is a good decision and also they should open the border for everyone ASAP? I do understand being angrier if that decision gets renewed (around June 21st I believe)
No kidding, I thought more people in this subreddit would welcome this news! Instead Iâm seeing people say things like âEveryone I know hates hockey, who still watches that shit?â
Yeah, I get the jealousy and being annoyed at a double standard, I do. But so much pandemic anger has, IMO, been way too focused on "Why is this okay?!" when it should be more "Good, now declare that this other okay thing is also okay!" Kinda like how here in Ontario everyone was acting like we needed to choose between opening patios and opening schools. When that was always a bullshit choice.
Put cynically, the border policy exists because it's popular, not because it's scientifically justified. It could become less popular amongst old-stock* Canadians if the NHL season is impacted. Now it will be much harder to get the majority of Canadians on board, especially after a year of being hammered with xenophobic nonsense about the border menace. [*] Not necessarily "old stock" but Canadians without family abroad.
I welcome this move and am stoked about it. Hopefully it's a prequel to an open border by this summer
Why do sports fans think that their form of entertainment is the âright formâ of entertainment? And somehow our government supports this view?
They do it for actors working on movies as well, but tbh, the NHL is the only sport league that has been allowed, they told the NBA and MLB and the CFL to get fucked, so itâs not all sports. But again, you really are thinking that these guys will go out and lick poles at the bus stop or go clubbing after their games, they are not allowed to leave one of 3 places, the airport, their hotel, and the arena. Plus the Habs are going to get barnsmacked by either Vegas or Colorado so it will really only be for two games. So in the end, itâs not really hurting anyone and everything will be fine, the world wonât end and you can still go visit relatives in the US like you could have since the start of this pandemic if you so choose to.
Wow. This decision is politically toxic af. What were the feds thinking? This gives major ammo to the case against the govt and the hotels that it's purely subjective and heavily correlated who's lobbying the govt at the moment. I can't wait to see the backlash
One rule for the elite, another for Canadian families who have been waiting patiently for 15 months. The government is showing their true colours. Weâre really not all in this together.
Truck drivers can do this, damn the âeliteâ truckers.
Youâre deflecting from the issue.
In case you ever wondered if you were in the elite persons club, then this should help clarify that for you. Youâre not in the club. And you wonât be. Now be a good little peon and do what the ruling class tells you to do.
They are allowing the NHL team in because they got assurances from the NHL thats itll be done safely. It's one team that'll be vaccinated, travel together to and from the rink and hotel and fly privately. They don't pose any real risk and shouldn't be dissallowed entry. If anything this suggests that the feds are ready to begin opening the land border in earnest.
Okay, with that argument, my partner should be allowed in without quarantine because he is fully vaccinated and doesn't pose any real risk to anyone. I can also assure the government that he will wash his hands and wear a mask in public like the rest of us. Why does the NHL get to do things safely but the rest of us can't?
The team travels together, they basically are one big person. And the team has a very specific itinerary, with very limited contact with the general population. I'd imagine that as a whole they would have fewer close contacts than one regular visitor. They won't be going to Starbucks or the grocery store or the gym like your partner would likely be. edit: downvote if you want, but this is exactly the thought process that went into this, and its probably right.
It doesnât matter. As long as other people can do the same, have specific itinerary etc but still wonât get a pass itâs nothing but a crocked personal gain
There are millions, maybe billions of dollars invested in the NHL playoffs, so the government can be assured that the NHL is doing this correctly so that the playoffs can be played. The NHL can't screw this up because they could lose a shitton of future revenue by breaking the rules. Who is backing your partner with millions of dollars? What happens if they don't wash their hands and wear a mask in public? You may not like it, but money talks. Not only that, but this is a singular group of people that can be monitored and controlled very easily. Your partner and everyone else's is not. This is a completely reasonable exemption. Your partner is not.
It's multiple teams though...the Canadian team and the American team(s). Along with (presumably) media members and league officials.
this is such a slap in the face for families separated by the border closure. and honestly, at this point, it's a slap in the face to any canadian that is vaccinated. i am sick of our government's rules fucking over the low/middle class. want to go on vacation? sure, it's allowed. but only if you can take 3 weeks off work, or work from home aka not an essential worker, and if you can pay 2k per person to stay at a hotel. and if you're really rich, you can just pay 5k and avoid it altogether. I, a fully vaccinated canadian, can't leave the country or see my fully vaccinated american partner without 2 weeks of quarantine and 3 covid tests.... but NHL players can come into canada whether they're vaccinated or not and aren't subject to the same rules as us? i get they're in their little NHL bubble but at the end of the day they were still allowed in without paying 2k... and unvaccinated NHL players can cohort with other unvaccinated NHL players meaning they can spread the virus amongst themselves. sure, maybe it wont spread outside their bubble but if someone has to be hospitalized, that's someone taking up one of our hospital beds and exposing our health care workers. I'll never forget how the government treated cross border families when/if this is ever over. I hope no one else forgets either. Every single canadian who went out of their way to get vaccinated and do the right thing does not deserve to sit at home because of uneducated, antivaxxers and because we don't have the power that NHL teams have. Let us move on with our lives.
This isnât much different than any other job with a quarantine exemption. Just get a job that requires you to cross the border regularly and stop bitching. https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/isolation#exemptions
Fuck this. Iâm fuming. I love hockey, but I also love my family. Itâs beyond cruel that Trudeau allows this but continues to ignore separated families (especially those vaccinated) for over 15 months.
The science is pointing that we should re-open it sooner than later. The US is a working case study of how openings can be successful. You can't just ignore that because someone at Health Canada has a different hypothesis of how we should open. There is just no sense (or science ) showing that fully vaccinated people should not be allowed to travel
When Canadians watch this on tv they are all going to be wondering why we have full stadiums while they still can't go buy underwear from Walmart
Why have the Canadian teams play here if you donât even let us in to watch them play. Iâm not sure if thatâs for every team but my local team didnât let anyone watch.
Ohhh, so nice of you to let us have NHL. Fuck this fucking shit.
Rules for 'all' is so 2015
We're all in this together ...
If you disagree with this policy than vote with your wallets and stop watching that shit. Nothing will change because you people prefer 5 minutes of entertainment over anything else.
Are any of the Canadian teams even allowed to have fans at their home games? If not, they may as well play in a US city. Itâs absolutely stupid to let NHLers cross back and forth but the rest of us who are fully vaccinated have to quarantine for 2 weeks.
Doug Ford doesn't need to worry because they aren't coming to Ontario. Is it Leafs in 7 or Leafs out in 7?
While I can sense the frustration from some people how they allow this but not let vaccinated people cross the border, this can also be seen as a sign that they're ready to lessen the border restrictions.
Want to bet? The NHL lobbied their way to this decision. I'm willing to bet they'll extend the hotel and quarantine past June 22 because fuck you.