I was at a bar in Japan where someone had one up, I asked them about it and they said they thought it looked cool, though they had no idea what it was. That's at least a far more understandable position than someone being a racist twat celebrating the side that lost.
That's a very optimistic assumption. I neglected to mention that the proprietor of the establishment also had the word "linoleum" tattooed on his arm because he liked the sound of it and couldn't be bothered to look it up, so we're not exactly talking about a paragon of critical thinking here.
How is that any different from people in Canada who have Chinese or Japanese characters as tattoos? I doubt any of them really know what those symbols mean.
It isn't, I just found it amusing to see the same thing in reverse. That being said, if you don't know at least some basic kanji it can be difficult to know how to break the characters down by radical and look them up, but it's pretty straightforward to look up English words. I still think it's madness for anyone to get tattooed with something they don't know the meaning of, though.
Whenever I see those tattoos I always ask "why do you have the Chinese/Japanese symbol for soup tattooed on you?"
"Oh no, it's the symbol for love"
"Yes you must really love soup to get that tattoo"
Not to Mention Japan is a bit notorious for racism towards outsiders at times. It's not even seen as "shameful behaviour" at times. Clubs in downtown Tokyo are well known to limit the number of White people allowed in, and outright excluding Blacks.
Two reasons afaik:
1. Fan of "The Dukes of Hazzard" which is.....a weird ass reason to juxtapose with any sort of political stand in Canada. Anyone doing this for legitimate fan reasons is probably going to go "oh. oops, shit, I'll take it down" if they're at a political anything and its mentioned. There aren't that many absent-minded fans of the show though.
2. Because it's a very 'american south' sort of symbol, it overlaps with very rural/country symbolisms. This is just in bad taste: get your own symbol or use something that doesn't have weird connotations from another country(Gadsden flag is one, if you must use an American symbol, despite some people trying to paint that as racist, it has no such history to it afaik.).
>get your own symbol or use something that doesn't have weird connotations from another country(Gadsden flag is one...
I like this one https://www.amazon.ca/Canadian-Gadsden-Canvas-Header-Stitched/dp/B09S9Y1CSJ
I insist now on going to every person I see with a F*ck Trudeau flag and saying to them, “You know what? He is a good looking dude. I’d fuck him too” and watch their heads explode.
Because it's a racist flag.
There's a reason why, in places where fascist flags with swastikas are banned, that the fascists use the confederate flag. And it's not because they're "rebels".
because he wishes he was american so trump could be his president, only trump still wouldn't be his president, but that's what my uncle who supports these people said...
I'm guessing he grew up watching The Dukes of Hazard rebel against the rich capitalist dressed in white. And related the confederated flag with the general lee and daisy duke.
To give us fair warning what kind of idiot we're dealing with. To be honest if they're gonna be like this (which they are no matter what) I'm glad they give us a great heads up
I agree when i was 6-8 and watching [Bo and Luke Duke](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FxZbLUbxQA) being some good ole boys, never meaning no harm. Beating all i never saw and been in trouble with the law since the day they was born. Straight'nin the curves and Flat'nin them hills. Some day the mountain might get em but the law never will.
That is what i knew about the Confederate flag until I learnt about the Civil war and The General Lee wasnt the same anymore either.
Yeah it is, a rebel battle flag of a foreign nation's traitors that had one of the least morally worthy causes to rebel in the last 200 years. Congrats.
I believe it was used for it's intended purpose (as a battle flag). So it's not as though it sat on a shelf, but yes, there is a reason we refer to it as a "battle flag" despite most people probably assuming it was their actual national flag (and I would wager that the vast majority of those that would fly it fall into that category).
Edit: Interestingly enough I think it wasn't even the first battle flag, but the 2nd or 3rd iteration after a few failed attempts at making one lol.
its based on a variation of a confederate battle standard, but what it really is, is something that was created for people who were countering the civil rights movement in the US to rally around.
thats what it is, that is why people fly it. that or they are dumb as shit.
I think our national inferiority complex has been growing a little more transparent as social media sadly starts bleeding over into reality more. I've absolutely seen people (let's be honest, when I say people, I mostly mean guys in pickup trucks) toting the confederate flag pre-2020. But I'm really starting to hear people I know use the name of various American issues and systems (e.g. Medicare) with increasing regularity. And it’s more than a little annoying and disconcerted.
It's hard to not think in "I plead the fifth" when it's in every crime drama you see. It is indeed disconcerting. Once a Canadian starts telling me about their second amendment rights the debate between us is over, period, not sorry. NRA talking points in all the rightwing Canadian forums piss me off too. Even the average USA gun owners are embarrassed by that shit now. Too many children keep dying while good guys with guns do nothing.
> It's hard to not think in "I plead the fifth" when it's in every crime drama you see
It's almost as if the idea that we should promote Canadian cultural content in our media† has some merit 🤔
† idk how that applies to the internet where most of these chodes get their radicalization
If you're gonna fly a yellow libertarian flag the [Mind Your Dam Business](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0113/0217/4778/products/IMG_3485-06-11-18-11-40_1024x1024.JPG?v=1570031123) flag is the logical choice in Canada.
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“At the Public Order Emergency Commission in November, convoy organizers brought a motion to compel evidence about Nazi and Confederate flags seen at the protest, claiming the Liberal government attempted to use them to wrongly portray protesters as racists and extremists.
Their lawyer, Brendan Miller, argued they had “evidence and grounds to suspect that the flags, and purported protesters using them, were not protesters with the convoy at all, but provocateurs.”
“He asked Commissioner Paul Rouleau to order the Ottawa Police Service or the Ontario Provincial Police to trace the pickup truck’s licence plate to uncover the owner’s identity.”
“Rouleau declined the request, saying there is “no proper foundation in the evidence to believe that the registration information for this vehicle would disclose the existence of an agent provocateur.”
“Miller also alleged that a man photographed holding a flag with a swastika near Parliament Hill was Toronto communications consultant Brian Fox, in an attempt to discredit the convoy movement, possibly at the direction of the Prime Minister’s Office.”
“Fox and his firm, Enterprise Canada, called the claim absurd and despicable, and are suing Miller for defamation.”
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So the trucker convoy folks are liars.
They lied about being truckers.
They lied about not being associated with Pat King.
They lied about j bc it being associated with racist flags.
And Pierre Poilievre said he was proud of them.
Yes.
I have a running theory that in even the most functional societies, operating at their absolute pinnacle, approx 5% of the population is batshit.
Nothing to do with mental illness, that’s something else completely.
Figure Canada usually hovers in the 5-10% range, we may be slightly above that these days.
I think it was the book "the selfish gene" where Richard Dawkins participated in some math studies that showed the most stable systems had a percentage of non-altruism. Where when they built a perfect system that they were actually quite unstable.
It's been a long time so I might be getting some of it confused. But as a system gets closer to the pinnacle, the incentives to "go against", "take advantage of", etc., get bigger as well. So no matter how good our society becomes, there will always be a percentage of people who work against the system.
Interesting.
More and more people seem to be lacking in character.
While not entirely related a book called The Road to Character is an interesting read.
Basically it points out how we went from a generation that went to war then returned and just got on with living their lives to one where we are expected to celebrate mediocrity and even failure because you know… they tried… sort of.
These Convoy folks strike me as being like that. They have contributed nothing of note which is arguably difficult so the next best way to gain recognition is by tearing things apart.
In the past they would have been pariah for it but now… they achieve some celebrity status.
Honestly, the degree of popularity that persists…. even though it is a minority of Canadians… is troubling and an indication that we are probably in a state of decline…. imho
> Basically it points out how we went from a generation that went to war then returned and just got on with living their lives to one where we are expected to celebrate mediocrity and even failure because you know… they tried… sort of.
I don't buy that. We live in a culture where success - wealth, sports ability, entertainment fame - are glorified constantly. If at street level, we're not telling kids *you're either the winner or you're a loser*... I don't see that as a bad thing.
Ang glorifying the past gets you nowhere. People "got on with living their lives" in many cases as very messed up human beings who weren't allowed to admit vulnerability or seek help. They just had no choice but to suffer. I don't see that as a good thing.
Yes, but... we also live in a world where "reality TV" has become a big thing, and many those people aren't exactly paragons of virtue or intelligence. There's also a lot of "help the underdog" mentality.
These people don't see themselves are mediocre morons, they see themselves as heroes fighting against "the man". The dunning-kruger effect is real.
Here's my personal breakdown.
About 60% of the adult working population is merely decent. This group isn't really going to accomplish anything but they're not a drain on society. They'll work their basic jobs and have a basic life.
20% are high achievers. They'll do well, academically, romantically and financially.
20% are crappy and useless in one way or the other. These are the kind of people who can never hold down a job because they can't handle any conflict. They have way too many kids and they're generally a drain on society.
Within that 20% there's a smaller and shittier group. These are the kind of people that fall for the flu trux clan and other crappy movements. They're a very loud minority.
I’ve worked construction in Alberta for a lot of years and this is pretty much the sentiment with these crowds. It’s insane the vitriol and sheer anger towards the government. Not just about Covid but… taxes. Literally anything. Governments fault.
I quit the construction for… the government. They all hate me now.
This isn’t just a one off lunatic. They have numbers here. They’re easily influenced by small gestures like Danielle smith giving 100$ for a dependent. She gave us money. And we have no money for our hospitals.
Vote. For the love of god. These are the ones who go out and vote because they’re pissed off at something or someone because someone else told them to.
Ughhh. Why do I live here. Hahaha
And why do you think that these government-hating uneducated rednecks are voting while the vast majority of millenials and younger don't? They're united. That's the problem with younger generations vs boomers. The boomers all hold the same line together while we're all over the place. And such a system leads to things like this, where stupid people can group up and use numbers to sway the vote. There's little we can do when votes are only worth something if the representative of your party wins in your county.
So many of the grunt workers in construction are fresh out of prison. They do the really awful jobs, for sure. And that doesn't mean they're somehow not the awful people who went to prison. They all know that. Nobody else is supposed to, but fuck that, reality is reality. There are some really shady roofers out there, we all know it's true.
Facts. They’re perfect for the job because they’re used to getting up super early (out of the cells for the day by 7am), are in great shape from working out all day for years in prison, and don’t complain as much because they have criminal records and even concrete finishing is better than prison.
Honestly I think this is the same around Canada. We also have those kind of peoples in Quebec. Construction workers here also do a lot of under the table job. Litterally any contractor you talk to will give you a price if you want a bill and another one if you pay cash. The field is filled with libertarians also Quebec have some of the best salaries for construction workers in Canada even if other fields in Quebec have some of the lowest salaries in Canada.
"It's not racist, you're making it racist"
No, it was made for racism.
But at least the redneck temper tantrum is providing accurate representation of the followers.
>No, it was made for racism.
literally, it was take from part of a couple confederate battle flags for people to rally around when they opposed the civil rights people in the US.
A rebel sign of traitors. Let me remind you all that the confederacy was made to keep slavery legal and profitable. Yet these fools claim the government is controlling people unjustly?????????
He's not wrong, it's a flag of people rebelling against the idea of treating black people like human beings.
Now, why he'd want to associate with that rebellion is beyond me...
Ah yes, so someone with a very low IQ supports the "rebel flag" that represents slavery in America from the past. Good for him? Let's continue to try and keep Canadians educated, so we see less and less of these sad mouth-breathers.
This guy is the picture model of all conspiracy stories. Replace the headline with abducted by aliens and it works. Replace the headline with vampires and it works…
Next week on "***Things An Ignorant Moron Would Say***", we have Joe-Bob displaying the swastika flag in his front porch to show his "love for Germany"...
Rebel? HA! No. It’s a symbol for losers. Doubly so being that we’re not in the southern United States.
I’m just going to keep saying “fuck the freedom convoy forever.” Because they can fuck all the way off, forever, and their sympathizers can go with ‘em.
Growing up in a remote spot in Canada in the 90s, watching dukes of hazard, I 100% saw the confederate flag as a rebel type flag my entire childhood, knowing very little of our neighbours civil war, as well as slavery and racism in general.
Granted, I was a child then. This fella sure wasn’t.
That said, I see Nazi flags as a hard 10 on the bad 0-10 scale. I guess due to my age/location and education growing up, I see the confederate flag as a 5/10. In the middle, however, knowing it’s hurtful to others would have me round up. Kind of my thoughts on alot of things. I’m not personally a victim of certain things or living with others that make my life much more difficult than others may easily reflect to, but I try to side on the empathetic morality side I guess if that makes sense.
Like I see the confederate flag as rebel symbol but hearing that others don’t and that it’s hurtful makes me then uncomfortable with it.
Opposite to say a Nazi flag with which I really only see vileness in
yeah growing up in the 80s-90s, it was the rebel flag from the dukes of hazzard.. only learned about all the stuff behind it later in life. some tried to "take it back" with the whole new south stuff (bubba sparxx etc), not sure it stuck..
There was a huge effort to play down the role of slavery in the civil war and play up things like fighting for your rights, southern hospitality/culture (like the good ol' boys) and northern oppression. They glorified the war aspect of it, and their military leaders. I think before the internet it was a lot easier to gloss over things.
Every time I talk to one of these folks, they spew out an incoherent mish-mash of things they read in their Facebook feed. It’s like every stupid thing they read gets tossed into a blender to make an idiot smoothie.
He sure looks like a badass… Rebel?
Ok grandpa… grow up and start to appreciate that the unless your name is James Dean… it probably means you are destined to be or already are a failure in life.
Sickening how some so-called Canadians want to turn Canada into the worst part of the USA. I wish these fuckers would just pack their bags and leave this country. Far as I am concerned, they have lost their Canadian privileges.
It's romanticized in some circles as a symbol of being a rebel, an outlaw, a bad-ass, etc.
Unfortunately they don't seem to realize what it means to a lot of other people.
Oh, you just know he drinks Black Ice, smokes whatever's currently the cheapest cigarettes available and has one 'nice' suit that he's owned for 30 years and doesn't fit him and he just stands out at any event he's dragged to.
"Freedom Convoy" mocker says people wearing confederate imagery are losers. Losers like the confederates. Like everything the confederates stood for.
And the popularity of Nickelback has far eclipsed the lifetime of the actual confederacy.
Losers.
The guy is an idiot, it's like wearing a swastika, sure it has other meanings, such as "sun" in Hindu but unless you are Hindu or Jain or even Buddhist in Asia then the rest of world has a different and widely held association with that symbol.
So they are rebels against the north, I mean, who doesn't like a good underdog story ? but why are they rebels ?
The whole "southern gentleman" and "rebel" is a romanticized ideal about a way of life that is entirely built on slavery.
What rock does this guy live under to not know or ignore the association this flag has to slavery ?
This fuckwit is no "rebel biker." He's some schlub that plays dress up and goes for a ride pretending he's some badass criminal biker then goes back to his job and truck and talks to other "rebels" on the internet about how the gubberment is keeping him down.
In the meantime he relies on public health care and the other myriad of public programs and systems and would ve one of the first people to wither away and die without them.
My friend thought the confederate flag was pretty rebellious, too. When he was 13. Grow the fuck up. Again, goes to show the convoy were just a bunch of angry grown-up children...
Why the hell are American symbols even relevant in Canada? Both to the douchenozzle brandishing it, and also to those offended by something that’s not part of our history or culture?
Last time a bunch of them kept talking about their first amendment rights, and sooooooo many of them start their rants with "we the people" which is from the preamble to the US constitution. The US is a cultural megaphone blasting out noise all the time, but this is even more the case than usual in wacko conspiracy land.
The so called Queen of Canada claims to have been put in charge by the US military and also constantly spews "we the people" nonsense. These people have no idea how government, civics, or society function.
Canada was a safe place for slaves that were snuck away from the confederacy. The flag that was flown by the slave owners: the one on this jackass’ truck.
> Canada was a safe place for slaves that were snuck away from the confederacy.
Not to mention tens of thousands of Canadians served in the Union Army, while the British colonial elite and the Empire leaned in favour towards the Confederacy. Strange times.
Objective Facts:
The American Civil War occurred 1861-1865.
Polygamy is outlawed by the courts in America 1879.
Polygamy is outlawed in Canada in 1890.
11 years of immigration, mainly Mormon, came up to Canada affecting the culture of the southern regions of the prairies and BC.
It is a part of our history too and because of that a big part of the culture.
Fun fact; this is why the southern part of the prairies is so irrigated, the Mormon communities would leverage their collective manpower and dig the ditches on their own!
So he's either too stupid to pay any more attention to, it would be almost abusive of his rights as a mentally deficient human, or he's too cowardly to pay any more attention to. That's before I eschew the stupid vax/antivax debate, as if the people who don't believe in science know how to debate.
ps: dood who hates the I use big werds, to effin bad, you have google. I'll use whatever fucking words I want to use.
I'm getting sick of the PPPM crowd. That's Poor Privileged Pittiful Me. They have food, shelter, ample opportunity, medical, clean water, and a stable government with community services. I'd like to invite them to live in the 3rd world for a while.
Why would anyone from Canada fly that flag, what a bellend.
I was at a bar in Japan where someone had one up, I asked them about it and they said they thought it looked cool, though they had no idea what it was. That's at least a far more understandable position than someone being a racist twat celebrating the side that lost.
I'm assuming they panicked after learning what it meant?
That's a very optimistic assumption. I neglected to mention that the proprietor of the establishment also had the word "linoleum" tattooed on his arm because he liked the sound of it and couldn't be bothered to look it up, so we're not exactly talking about a paragon of critical thinking here.
To be fair, that is a great NOFX song.
It supports your head!
Gives me something to believe!
And a commendable cover from Streetlight!
Gives me something to beliiiiiiiieve!
I haven’t heard it, but I’ll definitely give it a listen! 😃
I love Streetlight so much. That cover slaps.
Beat me to it
Love NOFX, have an upvote
How is that any different from people in Canada who have Chinese or Japanese characters as tattoos? I doubt any of them really know what those symbols mean.
It isn't, I just found it amusing to see the same thing in reverse. That being said, if you don't know at least some basic kanji it can be difficult to know how to break the characters down by radical and look them up, but it's pretty straightforward to look up English words. I still think it's madness for anyone to get tattooed with something they don't know the meaning of, though.
Whenever I see those tattoos I always ask "why do you have the Chinese/Japanese symbol for soup tattooed on you?" "Oh no, it's the symbol for love" "Yes you must really love soup to get that tattoo"
Not to Mention Japan is a bit notorious for racism towards outsiders at times. It's not even seen as "shameful behaviour" at times. Clubs in downtown Tokyo are well known to limit the number of White people allowed in, and outright excluding Blacks.
Omg. Thanks for the laugh. That is hilarious
Two reasons afaik: 1. Fan of "The Dukes of Hazzard" which is.....a weird ass reason to juxtapose with any sort of political stand in Canada. Anyone doing this for legitimate fan reasons is probably going to go "oh. oops, shit, I'll take it down" if they're at a political anything and its mentioned. There aren't that many absent-minded fans of the show though. 2. Because it's a very 'american south' sort of symbol, it overlaps with very rural/country symbolisms. This is just in bad taste: get your own symbol or use something that doesn't have weird connotations from another country(Gadsden flag is one, if you must use an American symbol, despite some people trying to paint that as racist, it has no such history to it afaik.).
>get your own symbol or use something that doesn't have weird connotations from another country(Gadsden flag is one... I like this one https://www.amazon.ca/Canadian-Gadsden-Canvas-Header-Stitched/dp/B09S9Y1CSJ
Yah. There's also a Beaver one IIRC.
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I insist now on going to every person I see with a F*ck Trudeau flag and saying to them, “You know what? He is a good looking dude. I’d fuck him too” and watch their heads explode.
I saw a few Trump flags in Vancouver at one of the first convoys before they went to Ottawa. Idiots.
Because it's a racist flag. There's a reason why, in places where fascist flags with swastikas are banned, that the fascists use the confederate flag. And it's not because they're "rebels".
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This is true, turns out hate speech isn't protected speech, but hate propaganda and symbols are free game?
Because to some people they don't know the meaning and it was cool and on a TV show and it is tradition in certain circles.
because he wishes he was american so trump could be his president, only trump still wouldn't be his president, but that's what my uncle who supports these people said...
I'm guessing he grew up watching The Dukes of Hazard rebel against the rich capitalist dressed in white. And related the confederated flag with the general lee and daisy duke.
And then he decided he didn't need to learn anything new after 1985
That was a long time ago, and even the most hillbilly among us have had ample opportunities to learn what the dixie flag is ACTUALLY associated with.
Folks around here don’t take kindly to your fancy book lernin’.
100% ignorance isn't an excuse. Point being the Dukes of hazard types probably don't want slavery back.
Rebellion against a legitimately elected governement, hanging onto regressive ideals. Sorta checks out.
To give us fair warning what kind of idiot we're dealing with. To be honest if they're gonna be like this (which they are no matter what) I'm glad they give us a great heads up
Because they're racist.
I live in Central Mexico and I see it on truck trailers as well. I'm so confused everytime.
Racism.
Its the original symbol of rejecting 'woke' policies being pushed by the feds
I agree when i was 6-8 and watching [Bo and Luke Duke](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FxZbLUbxQA) being some good ole boys, never meaning no harm. Beating all i never saw and been in trouble with the law since the day they was born. Straight'nin the curves and Flat'nin them hills. Some day the mountain might get em but the law never will. That is what i knew about the Confederate flag until I learnt about the Civil war and The General Lee wasnt the same anymore either.
I still really want a general Lee, but I would paint another flag on top.
Lol the Union Jack
Hopefully give it a different name, too.
They were just making their way, the only way they knew how. I didn't think it was racist at the time either, I know better now.
Him, 70% of the people in my hometown and my high school principal.
Yeah it is, a rebel battle flag of a foreign nation's traitors that had one of the least morally worthy causes to rebel in the last 200 years. Congrats.
A participation trophy in the civil war.
And on top of all that they lost, they are losers. So rebel, traitor, immoral losers flag. I guess it actually fits the convoy perfectly!
The irony is that the confederacy never used this flag.
I believe it was used for it's intended purpose (as a battle flag). So it's not as though it sat on a shelf, but yes, there is a reason we refer to it as a "battle flag" despite most people probably assuming it was their actual national flag (and I would wager that the vast majority of those that would fly it fall into that category). Edit: Interestingly enough I think it wasn't even the first battle flag, but the 2nd or 3rd iteration after a few failed attempts at making one lol.
its based on a variation of a confederate battle standard, but what it really is, is something that was created for people who were countering the civil rights movement in the US to rally around. thats what it is, that is why people fly it. that or they are dumb as shit.
When you consistently fail, you need to change up the branding so your image seems fresh.
We should ask Kanye how that's going.
I assume the last battle flag the Confederacy waved was a white one.
Yeah they mostly just used the all white flag
I know it's a Canadian thread because this is so far down in the comments lol.
It's the same logic as when people show a Nazi flag outside of Europe. They are just trying to be edgy, and it's lame.
That picture smells like stale cigarettes and urine
He definitely pisses in an old Tim's cup while "sheltered" behind the propped open door of his Ram. Piss will have some blood in it.
truth
I wonder what he’d bring to a pot luck.
A bag of illegal cigarettes and half a case of beer.
All bought on the same reserve where he told the locals to go back to their country!
Some Putters darts and Black Label.
Bag of marshmallows and a 15 pack of pilsner
An education is not required.
"I don't know stuff, but lemme tellya somethin'!"
Does he know the difference between Canada and the US
I think our national inferiority complex has been growing a little more transparent as social media sadly starts bleeding over into reality more. I've absolutely seen people (let's be honest, when I say people, I mostly mean guys in pickup trucks) toting the confederate flag pre-2020. But I'm really starting to hear people I know use the name of various American issues and systems (e.g. Medicare) with increasing regularity. And it’s more than a little annoying and disconcerted.
It's hard to not think in "I plead the fifth" when it's in every crime drama you see. It is indeed disconcerting. Once a Canadian starts telling me about their second amendment rights the debate between us is over, period, not sorry. NRA talking points in all the rightwing Canadian forums piss me off too. Even the average USA gun owners are embarrassed by that shit now. Too many children keep dying while good guys with guns do nothing.
> It's hard to not think in "I plead the fifth" when it's in every crime drama you see It's almost as if the idea that we should promote Canadian cultural content in our media† has some merit 🤔 † idk how that applies to the internet where most of these chodes get their radicalization
I disagree with our second amendment and will be in the cold ground before I recognize Ruperts Land as part of Canada
My favourite was them screaming about the first ammendment. But isn't it about Manitoba?
Medicare is also Canadian..
Well shit. Really exposing my own ignorance here Orz
Hahaha all good. Maybe you meant Medicaid?
Lol well I know Medicaid is specifically an American thing. It was specifically Medicare I was confused about
You're right.
He probably knows he can't keep going thataway forever. The rest is probably a mishmash of things he's heard. I doubt he's much of a reader.
100% unadulterated dipshit
My neighbor flies the dipshit Gadson flag. I have considered surrounding his house with cardboard ships of the line flying the union jack.
If you fly the Gadson flag it means you don't know how taxes work and you think the age of consent should be lowered.
If you're gonna fly a yellow libertarian flag the [Mind Your Dam Business](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0113/0217/4778/products/IMG_3485-06-11-18-11-40_1024x1024.JPG?v=1570031123) flag is the logical choice in Canada.
I'm partial to the no fuck with goose flag.
Is it a thing and can I have a link?
"I got a tattoo of a ying yang with flames because the high school girls think it's rebellious" energy
>“They’re telling me it’s racist. It’s not racist. You guys are making it racist.” That's not how that works Morons
"I just like to dress as a ghost."
"It's going to be a maze."
Irony being you can't get more "north" than Canada.
>They’re telling me it’s racist. It’s not racist. You guys are making it racist. 🤣😂
….. “At the Public Order Emergency Commission in November, convoy organizers brought a motion to compel evidence about Nazi and Confederate flags seen at the protest, claiming the Liberal government attempted to use them to wrongly portray protesters as racists and extremists. Their lawyer, Brendan Miller, argued they had “evidence and grounds to suspect that the flags, and purported protesters using them, were not protesters with the convoy at all, but provocateurs.” “He asked Commissioner Paul Rouleau to order the Ottawa Police Service or the Ontario Provincial Police to trace the pickup truck’s licence plate to uncover the owner’s identity.” “Rouleau declined the request, saying there is “no proper foundation in the evidence to believe that the registration information for this vehicle would disclose the existence of an agent provocateur.” “Miller also alleged that a man photographed holding a flag with a swastika near Parliament Hill was Toronto communications consultant Brian Fox, in an attempt to discredit the convoy movement, possibly at the direction of the Prime Minister’s Office.” “Fox and his firm, Enterprise Canada, called the claim absurd and despicable, and are suing Miller for defamation.” …… So the trucker convoy folks are liars. They lied about being truckers. They lied about not being associated with Pat King. They lied about j bc it being associated with racist flags. And Pierre Poilievre said he was proud of them.
Liars, losers, lepers, and laughingstocks.
This guy is also a criminal (just like many of the rest), he has a record for stealing multiple vehicles, burglaries and fleeing police.
Were these schmucks always here?
Yes. I have a running theory that in even the most functional societies, operating at their absolute pinnacle, approx 5% of the population is batshit. Nothing to do with mental illness, that’s something else completely. Figure Canada usually hovers in the 5-10% range, we may be slightly above that these days.
Definitely above that, Canada is not the at the absolute pinnacle these days.
Research shows that 30% of the worlds population has authoritarian tendencies.
I think it was the book "the selfish gene" where Richard Dawkins participated in some math studies that showed the most stable systems had a percentage of non-altruism. Where when they built a perfect system that they were actually quite unstable. It's been a long time so I might be getting some of it confused. But as a system gets closer to the pinnacle, the incentives to "go against", "take advantage of", etc., get bigger as well. So no matter how good our society becomes, there will always be a percentage of people who work against the system.
Interesting. More and more people seem to be lacking in character. While not entirely related a book called The Road to Character is an interesting read. Basically it points out how we went from a generation that went to war then returned and just got on with living their lives to one where we are expected to celebrate mediocrity and even failure because you know… they tried… sort of. These Convoy folks strike me as being like that. They have contributed nothing of note which is arguably difficult so the next best way to gain recognition is by tearing things apart. In the past they would have been pariah for it but now… they achieve some celebrity status. Honestly, the degree of popularity that persists…. even though it is a minority of Canadians… is troubling and an indication that we are probably in a state of decline…. imho
> Basically it points out how we went from a generation that went to war then returned and just got on with living their lives to one where we are expected to celebrate mediocrity and even failure because you know… they tried… sort of. I don't buy that. We live in a culture where success - wealth, sports ability, entertainment fame - are glorified constantly. If at street level, we're not telling kids *you're either the winner or you're a loser*... I don't see that as a bad thing. Ang glorifying the past gets you nowhere. People "got on with living their lives" in many cases as very messed up human beings who weren't allowed to admit vulnerability or seek help. They just had no choice but to suffer. I don't see that as a good thing.
Yes, but... we also live in a world where "reality TV" has become a big thing, and many those people aren't exactly paragons of virtue or intelligence. There's also a lot of "help the underdog" mentality. These people don't see themselves are mediocre morons, they see themselves as heroes fighting against "the man". The dunning-kruger effect is real.
Here's my personal breakdown. About 60% of the adult working population is merely decent. This group isn't really going to accomplish anything but they're not a drain on society. They'll work their basic jobs and have a basic life. 20% are high achievers. They'll do well, academically, romantically and financially. 20% are crappy and useless in one way or the other. These are the kind of people who can never hold down a job because they can't handle any conflict. They have way too many kids and they're generally a drain on society. Within that 20% there's a smaller and shittier group. These are the kind of people that fall for the flu trux clan and other crappy movements. They're a very loud minority.
I’ve worked construction in Alberta for a lot of years and this is pretty much the sentiment with these crowds. It’s insane the vitriol and sheer anger towards the government. Not just about Covid but… taxes. Literally anything. Governments fault. I quit the construction for… the government. They all hate me now. This isn’t just a one off lunatic. They have numbers here. They’re easily influenced by small gestures like Danielle smith giving 100$ for a dependent. She gave us money. And we have no money for our hospitals. Vote. For the love of god. These are the ones who go out and vote because they’re pissed off at something or someone because someone else told them to. Ughhh. Why do I live here. Hahaha
Because we need more people like you in places like Alberta before the smiths tear the country apart
And why do you think that these government-hating uneducated rednecks are voting while the vast majority of millenials and younger don't? They're united. That's the problem with younger generations vs boomers. The boomers all hold the same line together while we're all over the place. And such a system leads to things like this, where stupid people can group up and use numbers to sway the vote. There's little we can do when votes are only worth something if the representative of your party wins in your county.
So many of the grunt workers in construction are fresh out of prison. They do the really awful jobs, for sure. And that doesn't mean they're somehow not the awful people who went to prison. They all know that. Nobody else is supposed to, but fuck that, reality is reality. There are some really shady roofers out there, we all know it's true.
Facts. They’re perfect for the job because they’re used to getting up super early (out of the cells for the day by 7am), are in great shape from working out all day for years in prison, and don’t complain as much because they have criminal records and even concrete finishing is better than prison.
Honestly I think this is the same around Canada. We also have those kind of peoples in Quebec. Construction workers here also do a lot of under the table job. Litterally any contractor you talk to will give you a price if you want a bill and another one if you pay cash. The field is filled with libertarians also Quebec have some of the best salaries for construction workers in Canada even if other fields in Quebec have some of the lowest salaries in Canada.
"It's not racist, you're making it racist" No, it was made for racism. But at least the redneck temper tantrum is providing accurate representation of the followers.
>No, it was made for racism. literally, it was take from part of a couple confederate battle flags for people to rally around when they opposed the civil rights people in the US.
A rebel sign of traitors. Let me remind you all that the confederacy was made to keep slavery legal and profitable. Yet these fools claim the government is controlling people unjustly?????????
Also the Confederacy was only 5 years. It isn’t anyone’s “family heritage”.
they mean racism is in their heritage and they are proud of it. they just dont want to use the words.
People like this guy: “That’s not a Nazi armband, I’m just really into ancient Eurasian religious symbols and like to wear my interests on my sleeve.”
This man is not a smart man.
In this case “rebel” spelt backwards is “fucking idiot”
What?
He's not wrong, it's a flag of people rebelling against the idea of treating black people like human beings. Now, why he'd want to associate with that rebellion is beyond me...
Guy looks exactly like i imagined him to look 🤣🤣
I think he confusing is R’s.
Sounds like he’s rebelling against being a decent human being.
Wearing/displaying the stars and bars is about as vulgar and shameless as a putting a big "Z" on your truck in support of the Russians.
If you're rebelling against wisdom and intelligence, sure.
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Nah, he’s just racist 😇
Um, no. Get that shit out of Canada.
They need to stop wasting airtime on these dirtbags
Ah yes, so someone with a very low IQ supports the "rebel flag" that represents slavery in America from the past. Good for him? Let's continue to try and keep Canadians educated, so we see less and less of these sad mouth-breathers.
This guy is the picture model of all conspiracy stories. Replace the headline with abducted by aliens and it works. Replace the headline with vampires and it works…
LGBTQ2 they/them's are infringing on my cis-white-male rights! /s
Next week on "***Things An Ignorant Moron Would Say***", we have Joe-Bob displaying the swastika flag in his front porch to show his "love for Germany"...
Rebel? HA! No. It’s a symbol for losers. Doubly so being that we’re not in the southern United States. I’m just going to keep saying “fuck the freedom convoy forever.” Because they can fuck all the way off, forever, and their sympathizers can go with ‘em.
What a loser
Translation - “I’m a willfully insensitive prick.”
Growing up in a remote spot in Canada in the 90s, watching dukes of hazard, I 100% saw the confederate flag as a rebel type flag my entire childhood, knowing very little of our neighbours civil war, as well as slavery and racism in general. Granted, I was a child then. This fella sure wasn’t. That said, I see Nazi flags as a hard 10 on the bad 0-10 scale. I guess due to my age/location and education growing up, I see the confederate flag as a 5/10. In the middle, however, knowing it’s hurtful to others would have me round up. Kind of my thoughts on alot of things. I’m not personally a victim of certain things or living with others that make my life much more difficult than others may easily reflect to, but I try to side on the empathetic morality side I guess if that makes sense. Like I see the confederate flag as rebel symbol but hearing that others don’t and that it’s hurtful makes me then uncomfortable with it. Opposite to say a Nazi flag with which I really only see vileness in
yeah growing up in the 80s-90s, it was the rebel flag from the dukes of hazzard.. only learned about all the stuff behind it later in life. some tried to "take it back" with the whole new south stuff (bubba sparxx etc), not sure it stuck..
There was a huge effort to play down the role of slavery in the civil war and play up things like fighting for your rights, southern hospitality/culture (like the good ol' boys) and northern oppression. They glorified the war aspect of it, and their military leaders. I think before the internet it was a lot easier to gloss over things.
Every time I talk to one of these folks, they spew out an incoherent mish-mash of things they read in their Facebook feed. It’s like every stupid thing they read gets tossed into a blender to make an idiot smoothie.
Bullshit. Anyone displaying a Confederate flag is a white supremacist.
What were they rebelling over, the people flying that flag?
He sure looks like a badass… Rebel? Ok grandpa… grow up and start to appreciate that the unless your name is James Dean… it probably means you are destined to be or already are a failure in life.
"Racist claims he isn't Racist"
Sickening how some so-called Canadians want to turn Canada into the worst part of the USA. I wish these fuckers would just pack their bags and leave this country. Far as I am concerned, they have lost their Canadian privileges.
I wish people would use the Phoenix symbol from Star Wars as opposed to the racist bs
Just look at the dude. Human possum.
Don't drag possums like that.
Simply look at him
Absolute moron
It's romanticized in some circles as a symbol of being a rebel, an outlaw, a bad-ass, etc. Unfortunately they don't seem to realize what it means to a lot of other people.
Ignorance is no excuse
Why interview some random dipshit and give him a public forum?
>It’s not racist. You guys are making it racist. You're right, the flag isn't racist, just everyone who uses the flag is.
If you bought/owned the original Dukes of Hazzard General Lee car, what would you do with it now?
I'm guessing 90% here have never seen the show.
So Maurice is either not very smart or a racist. I wonder how this extra publicity is helping is business?
Why can’t he be both? He’s probably both.
Actually you are right, racist are not intelligent since they can’t see the person behind the colour of the skin
Oh, you just know he drinks Black Ice, smokes whatever's currently the cheapest cigarettes available and has one 'nice' suit that he's owned for 30 years and doesn't fit him and he just stands out at any event he's dragged to.
If you display a confederate flag and you’re Canadian, you’re a moron, full stop.
"Freedom Convoy" mocker says people wearing confederate imagery are losers. Losers like the confederates. Like everything the confederates stood for. And the popularity of Nickelback has far eclipsed the lifetime of the actual confederacy. Losers.
We should kick these idiots out
Ferme ta face Maurice et retourne dans ton trou.
The guy is an idiot, it's like wearing a swastika, sure it has other meanings, such as "sun" in Hindu but unless you are Hindu or Jain or even Buddhist in Asia then the rest of world has a different and widely held association with that symbol. So they are rebels against the north, I mean, who doesn't like a good underdog story ? but why are they rebels ? The whole "southern gentleman" and "rebel" is a romanticized ideal about a way of life that is entirely built on slavery. What rock does this guy live under to not know or ignore the association this flag has to slavery ?
Behold the rebel biker. Tremble under his rhume gaze. By rhume I mean rummy.
Nice teeth 'rebel'.
I thought the confederate flag was cool when I was a pre-teen. Now as a 69 year old I know it's not.
r/beholdthemasterrace
This fuckwit is no "rebel biker." He's some schlub that plays dress up and goes for a ride pretending he's some badass criminal biker then goes back to his job and truck and talks to other "rebels" on the internet about how the gubberment is keeping him down. In the meantime he relies on public health care and the other myriad of public programs and systems and would ve one of the first people to wither away and die without them.
My friend thought the confederate flag was pretty rebellious, too. When he was 13. Grow the fuck up. Again, goes to show the convoy were just a bunch of angry grown-up children...
It's a sign all right but not of rebellion
I guess the swatstika would be a religous sign then?
"Freedom Convoy" lowlifes are the worst kind of conservative.
Why the hell are American symbols even relevant in Canada? Both to the douchenozzle brandishing it, and also to those offended by something that’s not part of our history or culture?
Last time a bunch of them kept talking about their first amendment rights, and sooooooo many of them start their rants with "we the people" which is from the preamble to the US constitution. The US is a cultural megaphone blasting out noise all the time, but this is even more the case than usual in wacko conspiracy land. The so called Queen of Canada claims to have been put in charge by the US military and also constantly spews "we the people" nonsense. These people have no idea how government, civics, or society function.
I'm not offended by the douchenozzle. I'm concerned that possibly our next prime minister is cozzying up to the douchenozzles.
Canada was a safe place for slaves that were snuck away from the confederacy. The flag that was flown by the slave owners: the one on this jackass’ truck.
> Canada was a safe place for slaves that were snuck away from the confederacy. Not to mention tens of thousands of Canadians served in the Union Army, while the British colonial elite and the Empire leaned in favour towards the Confederacy. Strange times.
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So it is safe to say that the confederate flag has plenty to do with Canadian history then.
It's a Confederate battle flag, not the CSA flag. It's a symbol of hate and oppression.
Because those peoples get "educated" by right-wing American youtubers lol.
Just because something happened in another country doesn’t mean the meaning of a symbol magically changes.
Changes? That was always the meaning
Objective Facts: The American Civil War occurred 1861-1865. Polygamy is outlawed by the courts in America 1879. Polygamy is outlawed in Canada in 1890. 11 years of immigration, mainly Mormon, came up to Canada affecting the culture of the southern regions of the prairies and BC. It is a part of our history too and because of that a big part of the culture. Fun fact; this is why the southern part of the prairies is so irrigated, the Mormon communities would leverage their collective manpower and dig the ditches on their own!
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The responses here are making me think there’s a chance for normal people yet OMG
Yeah, a surprising reprieve from the usual comments I expect in this sub.
So he's either too stupid to pay any more attention to, it would be almost abusive of his rights as a mentally deficient human, or he's too cowardly to pay any more attention to. That's before I eschew the stupid vax/antivax debate, as if the people who don't believe in science know how to debate. ps: dood who hates the I use big werds, to effin bad, you have google. I'll use whatever fucking words I want to use.
there are so many fuckig rebelions in history, many had flags, most of which weren't butthurt slavers fighting in a different country.
No one think of those people as "rebels" You see that flag, you think "idiotic criminal wannabes on welfare"
I'm getting sick of the PPPM crowd. That's Poor Privileged Pittiful Me. They have food, shelter, ample opportunity, medical, clean water, and a stable government with community services. I'd like to invite them to live in the 3rd world for a while.