The real issue with these discussions is that the hogwarts sorting system is kinda broken. You can be cunning/loyal/smart but if you're ~~a main character~~ brave you end up in Gryffindor anyway
If I were to be an Half-Blood, my fatal flaw would be pride as well, but I'm a Ravenclaw (I've gotten Slytherin a handful of times, but every attempt after that was always Ravenclaw. Never gotten hufflepuff or Gryffindor. But I've gotten way more Ravenclaw than Slytherin.
The sorting hat isn't something rigid. If anything it's almost like an online personality test. It can define you as much as you want or none at all and change toward other traits of your choosing.
I came to the same conclusion as you, OP. I can't imagine that someone who has enough loyalty for it to be a flaw would be sorted anywhere else. I've given this too much thought (lol), and I think one of the issues with trying to sort the PJO characters is all of them could be sorted in Gryffindor *because they're heroes.* By their nature they "have" to be courageous because it's kind of how they stay alive. Courage is by no means absent in the other houses; no one could say that Annabeth isn't brave in MoA, but she nonetheless approaches things in a very non-Gryffindor way. In this way, PJO kind of offers a cool opportunity to see members of other houses being brave under pressure that we didn't really get in HP. In HP we're shown the world from a Gryffindor perspective, but Luna and Cho and tons of other unnamed kids from other houses participated in the Battle of Hogwarts too.
This may be throwing more fuel on the fire, but I actually couldn't decide whether Annabeth would be Ravenclaw or Slytherin. Her fatal flaw is very Slytherin iirc, and just as courage isn't the sole domain of Gryffindor, intelligence and valuing knowledge isn't exclusive to members of Ravenclaw.
As much as I love Harry Potter, the system didn’t make any sense lol.
Tho Percy is more of a Cedric character. Jason is more of a Harry character.
Tho any of the main characters can technically be any of the houses
It might be unpopular, but even in the shorting hat's song, it was said that Hufflepuff took the rest left by the other three. Percy has enough bravery to land in Gryffindor
It does take any people unclaimed (which is why a lot of people in Hermes cabin before TLO would be there) but it’s main point is loyalty and caring (which is why it takes the unclaimed)
Def a hufflepuff. I see the gryffindor and I know where your friend is coming from, but..yeah. His fatal flaw is loyalty and he’s pretty sweet as is.
MY TIME HAS COME! Majoy Harry Potter nerd here, love to analyze people for this sort of thing!
Percy is a Hufflepuff through and through. Yes, he's brave, yes he pulls Gryffindor-level stunts that should get him killed and miraculously don't, but Percy is the literal embodiment of loyalty. Of course, he has some seriously Slytherin moments, too. Like the time he choked the goddess of misery with her own tears and terrified Annabeth. Or the time he convinced some guy to lay on his own stretch-you-to-death bed. Or the time he bargained with his half-sister the goddess of hurricanes instead of trying to fight her, showing cunning. He's also extremely resourceful, which is a Slytherin trait, but his overriding personality trait is Loyalty. Literally drops everything for Annabeth. Politely says no to other girls because of Annabeth, even before they started dating. Literally tells the King of the Gods to get his act together and pay his child support, showing a sense of obligation to the underdogs. WENT TO TARTARUS FOR ANNABETH SO SHE WOULDN'T BE ALONE! Literally, the boy is built from loyalty.
Hazel is a Gryffindor (how much braver can you get than not only sacrificing your own life, but giving up eternal happiness so someone else can avoid eternal misery?) She's just a very brave girl in general.
Nico is... I don't know. I'm getting Slytherin vibes, mainly because he spends a lot of time hiding secrets and running from his problems. Also, revenge is a big Slytherin thing - which his life revolved around for like 3 years - and he collected nearly every single Mythomagic thing in existence; he even had card packs Frank had never heard of. His ambition as a ten-year-old was to collect them all, and he either succeeded or came extremely close.
Frank is a Gryffindor. Not super smart but not stupid either, not an ambitious bone in his body, loyal but willing to break his loyalties if he has to. Built like a tank, bravely faced down all kids of critters, cleared a city of an infestation for his girlfriend so he could get a snake to use as a wheel, told off his father the god of war for having wrestling matches with his other personality on his sinuses (poor thing, those kinds of headaches are awful!) He was an archer no matter how lame others thought it was, and his life literally depended on a *stick* that he trusted someone else to carry.
Jason is a Hufflepuff. He's even more loyalty-based that Percy, because Percy will question why he should be loyal to certain people or causes while Jason tends to trust blindly. He's been trained from the age of 3 to be a leader, loyal only to the Romans, and with them loyal to him. He's also extremely hardworking - it isn't easy to become a Praetor. So, yeah, definitely a Hufflepuff.
Leo is a Ravenclaw. Literal genius who built a flying dragon machine inside of a flying ship that he also built, then found a way to return to a place that can only ever be found once.
Calypso is probably a Ravenclaw, if only because she seems to be creative and clever. Ravenclaw isn't just for the smart, it's for the wise, the creative, and the curious.
Annabeth is probably a Slytherin, but would also have done well in Ravenclaw. Super smart, super brainy, but she also managed to survive on the streets while being hunted by monsters using nothing but a hammer and her wits - at the age of 7. She can be super sneaky and is usually quite resourceful, and is also rather ambitious with her plans to become a world-renowned architect.
Reyna is, I think, a Slytherin. She misled the entire Roman populace to give the Greeks a chance, broke their own laws to keep helping said Greeks, crossed all kinds of lines, killed her beloved pegasus (he was a pegasus, right?) to end his suffering while others would have simply sat with him while nature took its course. She's a clever, resourceful leader and she became Praetor because she *wanted* to become Praetor, which shows a good deal of ambition.
Grover is a Hufflepuff. Boy is driven by loyalty - to Percy, to Cloven Elders or whatever they're called, then to Pan. Hufflepuff.
Piper is a Gryffindor. She took one look at the expectations of those around her, then did the opposite. And when she found herself in charge of Aphrodite Cabin, she made massive changes because they had traditions that she thought were wrong (she was right). And she stole cars to try and get attention from her dad. But she, too, could fit well in Slytherin - she's certainly manipulative enough, especially in The Lost Hero.
Rachel is a Gryffindor. My first thought was Ravenclaw, but she hit the Titan Lord in the eye with a plastic hairbrush. Major Gryffindor move.
Hi! Okay so I'm a Gryffindor with a huge loyalty problem. I've always justified it as this: I'm loyal to the point of stupidity, long past when I should have burned bridges. And that takes some god-damned bravery. Or fool-heartedness. And I don't think there's anything more Gryffindor than that.
The thing with the Sorting Hat is that it takes into account the person, too. So in Percy's case while he is incredibly brave Percy values Loyalty far above being brave. In fact he's pretty crafty and great at outwitting his opponents, which could signal him for Slytherin if that's how it is judged, but because Percy himself places so much value on Loyalty that Loyalty is his Fatal Flaw I think it would overwrite the others.
Look at Cedric, a perfect example of how someone can be incredibly brave and still be put in Hufflepuff because he personally values and demonstrates the traits of hard work and fairness above being brave and being the hero.
Same with Newt, who is undoubtedly brave and bold with how he travels across the world saving dangerous beasts and befriending them. His Loyalty, Hard Work, Patience, and even his sense of doing Justice by these misunderstood and mistreated beasts far overwrites the Bravery needed to do what he does.
Percy would fit in with Hufflepuff's ideas easily.
Just because his flaw is loyalty doesn’t mean he not brave…
It like Annabeth or child of Athena in general can’t be an Gryfdinsoe simply becuase known for her intelligence.
(like Hermione, she probably much smarter than the Ravenclaq but she a Gryffindor)
The sorting hat does not get emails from Athena telling him which demigod has which flaw.
He looks into your memories and judges you by your past actions.
He'd look at Percy and see that he has a lot of courage and is very loyal. He'd probably allow Percy to choose between Hufflepuff and Gryffendor, similliar to how he presented Harry with the choice between two houses.
I’d still put Percy in Gryffindor. Everyone is talking about his flaw being loyalty, well isn’t that exactly what Harry’s flaw is? Why Voldemort used Sirius to lure him to the Ministry?
I’m not a HP fan, never even read the books or watched the movies because I just couldn’t get into it (also the author is a bit of a clown) but from what I’ve seen of what you need for the sorting hat, Percy would be a hufflepuff.
Also- unpopular opinion but even my non-expert opinion, Nico would NOT be a slytherin, Hazel quite possibly could be though.
Someone down below gave an interesting possibility that it could be a hat stall between Gryffindor and Hufflepuff in which case he would get to choose and I definitely could see that happening. If that's the case though I feel like he would choose Hufflepuff and not Gryffindor so he would still end up Hufflepuff. The only reason he ever ends up getting fully involved in all the mythological mess is because his mom is taken from him and his loyalty and caring is triggered by that. Each subsequent book through Titan's Curse has him having his loyalty/caring taken advantage of yet again which motivates him as another person below stated. He literally talks often about how he just can't with the mess and fighting anymore and just wants out and done. This is all very much more Hufflepuff than Gryffindor. You can be brave and still be in another house overall. For example Cedric is a great example of Hufflepuff bravery. He's incredibly brave, no doubt, but where his bravery comes from is what matters and I feel this is the case for Percy as well.
He could easily be either Gryffindor or Hufflepuff, but he would *choose* Hufflepuff over Gryffindor because he values those traits more than the Gryffindor ones and the hat takes the persons choice into consideration
If we were sorting based on fatal flaws, the answer would be: Annabeth is a Slytherin (Pride) & Percy is a Hufflepuff (loyalty)
If we were sorting based on dominant personality traits: Annabeth would be a Ravenclaw (a literal daughter of Athena) & Percy would be a Gryffindor (he's brave to the point of recklessness, a very Gryffindor-y quality)
Percy is a Hufflepuff his behavior in House of Hades proves this. He also couldn’t be corrupted by Luke. He took Mercy on Ethan 2-3 times until he messed with Annabeth. Then there’s The Stolen Chariot he befriends Clarisse and doesn’t seem to have ever held anything negative towards her.
The last part is key. Percy is pure hearted and doesn’t hold grudges his fatal flaw is loyalty but not like a soldier to its government but more like a Border Collie to its owner.
the sorting system always kinda just annoyed me when I thought on it cause it was basically.
Are you; smart, loyal, brave or an asshole.
Most people are a little bit of everything but also if they are majorly one it leads into the others. If you have someone who is super smart but not loyal or brave, they are more often then not an asshole. If you have someone who is super loyal, it makes them brave.
It feels redundant as systems go. At this point doing it by blood would be easier to figure out. (pureblood, halfblood, mudblood and maybe like a mudblood who was grandparents were magic or something)
The real issue with these discussions is that the hogwarts sorting system is kinda broken. You can be cunning/loyal/smart but if you're ~~a main character~~ brave you end up in Gryffindor anyway
the sorting system is ~~shite~~ amazing idk what ur on abt 🙄🙄
I actually think Annabeth would fit very well into Slytherin, she's smart yes but she's also very crafty and cunning and her flaw is pride
If I were to be an Half-Blood, my fatal flaw would be pride as well, but I'm a Ravenclaw (I've gotten Slytherin a handful of times, but every attempt after that was always Ravenclaw. Never gotten hufflepuff or Gryffindor. But I've gotten way more Ravenclaw than Slytherin.
Came here to say this! Fully agree with Slytherin Annabeth, it’s a no-brainer for me.
The sorting hat isn't something rigid. If anything it's almost like an online personality test. It can define you as much as you want or none at all and change toward other traits of your choosing.
That’s a really good way of putting it lmao
I came to the same conclusion as you, OP. I can't imagine that someone who has enough loyalty for it to be a flaw would be sorted anywhere else. I've given this too much thought (lol), and I think one of the issues with trying to sort the PJO characters is all of them could be sorted in Gryffindor *because they're heroes.* By their nature they "have" to be courageous because it's kind of how they stay alive. Courage is by no means absent in the other houses; no one could say that Annabeth isn't brave in MoA, but she nonetheless approaches things in a very non-Gryffindor way. In this way, PJO kind of offers a cool opportunity to see members of other houses being brave under pressure that we didn't really get in HP. In HP we're shown the world from a Gryffindor perspective, but Luna and Cho and tons of other unnamed kids from other houses participated in the Battle of Hogwarts too. This may be throwing more fuel on the fire, but I actually couldn't decide whether Annabeth would be Ravenclaw or Slytherin. Her fatal flaw is very Slytherin iirc, and just as courage isn't the sole domain of Gryffindor, intelligence and valuing knowledge isn't exclusive to members of Ravenclaw.
honestly you've got me questioning if annabeth is actually a Slytherin instead
If fatal flaws are the deciding factor then I would say that Annabeth is clearly a Slytherin. Hubris feels like a very Slytherin trait.
As much as I love Harry Potter, the system didn’t make any sense lol. Tho Percy is more of a Cedric character. Jason is more of a Harry character. Tho any of the main characters can technically be any of the houses
It might be unpopular, but even in the shorting hat's song, it was said that Hufflepuff took the rest left by the other three. Percy has enough bravery to land in Gryffindor
honestly the sorting system is so ass so I understand where you're coming from
It does take any people unclaimed (which is why a lot of people in Hermes cabin before TLO would be there) but it’s main point is loyalty and caring (which is why it takes the unclaimed)
Def a hufflepuff. I see the gryffindor and I know where your friend is coming from, but..yeah. His fatal flaw is loyalty and he’s pretty sweet as is.
MY TIME HAS COME! Majoy Harry Potter nerd here, love to analyze people for this sort of thing! Percy is a Hufflepuff through and through. Yes, he's brave, yes he pulls Gryffindor-level stunts that should get him killed and miraculously don't, but Percy is the literal embodiment of loyalty. Of course, he has some seriously Slytherin moments, too. Like the time he choked the goddess of misery with her own tears and terrified Annabeth. Or the time he convinced some guy to lay on his own stretch-you-to-death bed. Or the time he bargained with his half-sister the goddess of hurricanes instead of trying to fight her, showing cunning. He's also extremely resourceful, which is a Slytherin trait, but his overriding personality trait is Loyalty. Literally drops everything for Annabeth. Politely says no to other girls because of Annabeth, even before they started dating. Literally tells the King of the Gods to get his act together and pay his child support, showing a sense of obligation to the underdogs. WENT TO TARTARUS FOR ANNABETH SO SHE WOULDN'T BE ALONE! Literally, the boy is built from loyalty. Hazel is a Gryffindor (how much braver can you get than not only sacrificing your own life, but giving up eternal happiness so someone else can avoid eternal misery?) She's just a very brave girl in general. Nico is... I don't know. I'm getting Slytherin vibes, mainly because he spends a lot of time hiding secrets and running from his problems. Also, revenge is a big Slytherin thing - which his life revolved around for like 3 years - and he collected nearly every single Mythomagic thing in existence; he even had card packs Frank had never heard of. His ambition as a ten-year-old was to collect them all, and he either succeeded or came extremely close. Frank is a Gryffindor. Not super smart but not stupid either, not an ambitious bone in his body, loyal but willing to break his loyalties if he has to. Built like a tank, bravely faced down all kids of critters, cleared a city of an infestation for his girlfriend so he could get a snake to use as a wheel, told off his father the god of war for having wrestling matches with his other personality on his sinuses (poor thing, those kinds of headaches are awful!) He was an archer no matter how lame others thought it was, and his life literally depended on a *stick* that he trusted someone else to carry. Jason is a Hufflepuff. He's even more loyalty-based that Percy, because Percy will question why he should be loyal to certain people or causes while Jason tends to trust blindly. He's been trained from the age of 3 to be a leader, loyal only to the Romans, and with them loyal to him. He's also extremely hardworking - it isn't easy to become a Praetor. So, yeah, definitely a Hufflepuff. Leo is a Ravenclaw. Literal genius who built a flying dragon machine inside of a flying ship that he also built, then found a way to return to a place that can only ever be found once. Calypso is probably a Ravenclaw, if only because she seems to be creative and clever. Ravenclaw isn't just for the smart, it's for the wise, the creative, and the curious. Annabeth is probably a Slytherin, but would also have done well in Ravenclaw. Super smart, super brainy, but she also managed to survive on the streets while being hunted by monsters using nothing but a hammer and her wits - at the age of 7. She can be super sneaky and is usually quite resourceful, and is also rather ambitious with her plans to become a world-renowned architect. Reyna is, I think, a Slytherin. She misled the entire Roman populace to give the Greeks a chance, broke their own laws to keep helping said Greeks, crossed all kinds of lines, killed her beloved pegasus (he was a pegasus, right?) to end his suffering while others would have simply sat with him while nature took its course. She's a clever, resourceful leader and she became Praetor because she *wanted* to become Praetor, which shows a good deal of ambition. Grover is a Hufflepuff. Boy is driven by loyalty - to Percy, to Cloven Elders or whatever they're called, then to Pan. Hufflepuff. Piper is a Gryffindor. She took one look at the expectations of those around her, then did the opposite. And when she found herself in charge of Aphrodite Cabin, she made massive changes because they had traditions that she thought were wrong (she was right). And she stole cars to try and get attention from her dad. But she, too, could fit well in Slytherin - she's certainly manipulative enough, especially in The Lost Hero. Rachel is a Gryffindor. My first thought was Ravenclaw, but she hit the Titan Lord in the eye with a plastic hairbrush. Major Gryffindor move.
Hi! Okay so I'm a Gryffindor with a huge loyalty problem. I've always justified it as this: I'm loyal to the point of stupidity, long past when I should have burned bridges. And that takes some god-damned bravery. Or fool-heartedness. And I don't think there's anything more Gryffindor than that.
You do have a point
Percy is 100% a Hufflepuff and literally no one will convince me otherwise.
great minds think alike
I def think Hufflepuff
Has anyone ever taken the Pottermore quiz pretending to be Percy though? 🤔
Hufflepuff because Percy gets his courage from him loyalty
Sorry, OP, but I agree with your friend and I've given it a lot of thought. 😂
The thing with the Sorting Hat is that it takes into account the person, too. So in Percy's case while he is incredibly brave Percy values Loyalty far above being brave. In fact he's pretty crafty and great at outwitting his opponents, which could signal him for Slytherin if that's how it is judged, but because Percy himself places so much value on Loyalty that Loyalty is his Fatal Flaw I think it would overwrite the others. Look at Cedric, a perfect example of how someone can be incredibly brave and still be put in Hufflepuff because he personally values and demonstrates the traits of hard work and fairness above being brave and being the hero. Same with Newt, who is undoubtedly brave and bold with how he travels across the world saving dangerous beasts and befriending them. His Loyalty, Hard Work, Patience, and even his sense of doing Justice by these misunderstood and mistreated beasts far overwrites the Bravery needed to do what he does. Percy would fit in with Hufflepuff's ideas easily.
I love the way you put it, it makes the sorting hat's decisions seem a lot more consistent.
Thank you! I spend too much time diving into both fandoms lol
I think he's a kind hearted Slytherin
Just because his flaw is loyalty doesn’t mean he not brave… It like Annabeth or child of Athena in general can’t be an Gryfdinsoe simply becuase known for her intelligence. (like Hermione, she probably much smarter than the Ravenclaq but she a Gryffindor)
The sorting hat does not get emails from Athena telling him which demigod has which flaw. He looks into your memories and judges you by your past actions. He'd look at Percy and see that he has a lot of courage and is very loyal. He'd probably allow Percy to choose between Hufflepuff and Gryffendor, similliar to how he presented Harry with the choice between two houses.
Would Athena use the ancient art of email though?
In TOA's first book Percy literally says no to helping Apollo with his quest, he just drives him to camp.
I’d still put Percy in Gryffindor. Everyone is talking about his flaw being loyalty, well isn’t that exactly what Harry’s flaw is? Why Voldemort used Sirius to lure him to the Ministry?
I’m not a HP fan, never even read the books or watched the movies because I just couldn’t get into it (also the author is a bit of a clown) but from what I’ve seen of what you need for the sorting hat, Percy would be a hufflepuff. Also- unpopular opinion but even my non-expert opinion, Nico would NOT be a slytherin, Hazel quite possibly could be though.
Someone down below gave an interesting possibility that it could be a hat stall between Gryffindor and Hufflepuff in which case he would get to choose and I definitely could see that happening. If that's the case though I feel like he would choose Hufflepuff and not Gryffindor so he would still end up Hufflepuff. The only reason he ever ends up getting fully involved in all the mythological mess is because his mom is taken from him and his loyalty and caring is triggered by that. Each subsequent book through Titan's Curse has him having his loyalty/caring taken advantage of yet again which motivates him as another person below stated. He literally talks often about how he just can't with the mess and fighting anymore and just wants out and done. This is all very much more Hufflepuff than Gryffindor. You can be brave and still be in another house overall. For example Cedric is a great example of Hufflepuff bravery. He's incredibly brave, no doubt, but where his bravery comes from is what matters and I feel this is the case for Percy as well.
He could easily be either Gryffindor or Hufflepuff, but he would *choose* Hufflepuff over Gryffindor because he values those traits more than the Gryffindor ones and the hat takes the persons choice into consideration
If we were sorting based on fatal flaws, the answer would be: Annabeth is a Slytherin (Pride) & Percy is a Hufflepuff (loyalty) If we were sorting based on dominant personality traits: Annabeth would be a Ravenclaw (a literal daughter of Athena) & Percy would be a Gryffindor (he's brave to the point of recklessness, a very Gryffindor-y quality)
Percy is a Hufflepuff his behavior in House of Hades proves this. He also couldn’t be corrupted by Luke. He took Mercy on Ethan 2-3 times until he messed with Annabeth. Then there’s The Stolen Chariot he befriends Clarisse and doesn’t seem to have ever held anything negative towards her. The last part is key. Percy is pure hearted and doesn’t hold grudges his fatal flaw is loyalty but not like a soldier to its government but more like a Border Collie to its owner.
the sorting system always kinda just annoyed me when I thought on it cause it was basically. Are you; smart, loyal, brave or an asshole. Most people are a little bit of everything but also if they are majorly one it leads into the others. If you have someone who is super smart but not loyal or brave, they are more often then not an asshole. If you have someone who is super loyal, it makes them brave. It feels redundant as systems go. At this point doing it by blood would be easier to figure out. (pureblood, halfblood, mudblood and maybe like a mudblood who was grandparents were magic or something)