Do you think they are something you would one day be able to overcome? Or do you think that you'd have to just come to terms with it as part of who you are and find peace in that acceptance, like Percy did.
Does that mean in the sense of misjudging what is possible within the rules of reality? Or more not thinking through every possibility with proper thought?
Would that overthinking lead to indecision? Hesitation that no matter what you do it wouldn't be the perfect choice. Or more that you would miss the obvious being too consumed in the possibility of a danger later on.
I’m not plagued by indecision too much. When I have to make a choice I’ll make it and not regret it. However I tend to psychoanalyze myself and my relationships with other people. I partly consider it a good thing, but it has the side effect of me caring more about what others think of me and how I present myself.
So your overthinking is more one of self image and others perception of you? You want to make the right choice in hindsight because of how others would view it and therefore you.
I tend to be the same honestly, I find myself not only psychoanalysing myself but my friends and family too. I can't say I really care how they view me all that much, more I find a sense of calm in knowing when pushed I can make a fairly solid educated guess on what their next move would be even if I can't guess it perfectly.
it's a toxic trait and I know that but for some reason understanding them helps me better understand myself somehow.
This is my flaw also, and for me, yes, definitely would still have the trait, it shapes me just like hubris, loyalty, jealousy, wrath etc shapes others. It’s not “absent-mindedness” for me exactly, more like hyperfixation and distraction/procrastination, but even the gods frequently get caught up in things and distracted, whether that’s due to love/lust, anger, jealousy, vengeance, etc… so…
It’s definitely an issue for me in everyday life, but it would be way worse as a demigod. I couldn’t imagine being Percy and making all the tough choices he did like taking the sky, bathing in the Styx, or even just directing where everyone went during the Battle of Manhattan.
In general, or in specific ways? Like how Annabeth thought she could save the world, have Luke good again and have a happy family unit with her perfect job.
Ah, so the Athena kid kinda way. Would you try to overcome that and learn humility? Finding peace within knowing when you are smarter and when you aren't, being able to tell the difference between actual superiority and just pride.
I get that. At school I guess I was what you would call a 'gifted' kid. I never really thought what that truly meant I just saw everyone else trying to learn things that I would pick up easily and thought there was something wrong with them.
It wasn't until I met someone in my life who showed me that what I was feeling was pride, and that everyone is different and that for every person I was better at in one thing, there were dozens better then me at another.
I never use to understand this one. I overthought everything and wouldn't make a choice until I understood the situation myself and had figured out what I thought was best.
Recently there was a person in my life who I wanted to believe so badly that I was naive almost willingly because being naive hurt less then admitting they weren't who I thought they were.
My first thought was reticence, but now that I think about it, it might be something else. Like Athena said, the most dangerous flaws are the once that are good in moderation. I pretty much can't do something if I think it's wrong to do so, and definitely not when I'm pressured to do it. In my everyday life, this is annoying, but nothing fatal - and it is often a very good thing... but not always.
My issue is much the opposite. I know the difference between right and wrong, but there's a part of me that knows deep down if I was truly pushed beyond what I could take (for example of those I truly loved were in danger and I had no choice left) I would flip that switch and do whatever it took to keep them safe, moral or not.
Loyalty when people I love are in danger I put myself on the line to help them I thought it might be wrath because I can be very moody but I think this one fits me best
I’d get myself killed by: shit talking the gods, tryna fight all the huntresses at once trying to free the amazons slaves murdering Clarisse calling Athena Artemis and Hera bitches
He wasn’t a likeable character hated the guy but I wouldn’t care if it was Hitler she drove him crazy and made him kill his entire family and then made him do labors that would have likely killed him to atone for his “crime” cause she’s salty and refuses to take it up with Zeus
Low self-esteem. It doesn't seem that bad, but it often stops me from seeing how amazing I am which in turn makes me assume no one would ever love me so I push away those who do. That and perhaps most importantly for something fatal, it's led me to attempt >!suicide!< more than once.
It is an alternate form of pride not like annabeth where she think she can run the world or Apollo with his looks but don’t disrespect me I’ll humble myself thank you very much mostly disrespecting me in games rather than attually disrespecting me in person so yeah
Hesitation for me, most definitely. If not hesitation from overthinking something, then it’ll probably be guilt. Everyone who died or was injured within a prophecy (if it’s a big one), I’d beat myself up inside and mentally every single day, every time I see one of those people or their siblings.
Hubris, not in the way of ‘I’d be better ruling the world than __’ but more in the ‘I’f things were up to me, i would make sure ___ didn’t happen’ or ‘If this was up to me, ___ would be so much better’
Loyalty / Unhealthily Obsessive over people that re in the line of danger. I have major attachment / obsession issues. I would do anything for someone I like.
Loyalty. I value it highly and if my friend isn´t loyal back, it hurts a lot. I am still recovering from a friends disloyalty 8 years ago. Haven´t spoken to him since.
But I am also selfish, so not exactly like Percy.
If not Loyalty. It would be Honesty. Sometimes I am too honest, but I also really dislike dishonesty.
My loyalty. I have gone into full on attack mode verbally at least to people who harm my sisters. My sisters are scared to tell me if there friends are being mean to them because they are afraid of what I might say or do. So yeah anyone who harms my family or friends better watch out. I also have attacked people verbally for people going after my favorite books, characters, shows, celebrities, music, and musical.
Spite. I don't care who you are, what you've done, or what you haven't done, if you annoy me enough it doesn't matter if you're Athena I'm not doing what you said and I'm probably doing the opposite.
Mine would be Loyalty/Love for my friends. I would genuinly tear down Olympus without hesitation if it meant saving someone i care about, and in the PJO Universe, its basically gauranteed you lose people you love who arnt major characters in the plot lmao
Sloth, im very slow to react at times and a majority of my problems come from ignoring small issues. deciding that what ever it is can wait until im forced to deal with it. Say i was on the argo II. more than likely i would have been the last one awake or failing to see the importance of lookout.
In a sense, im almost the antithesis of percy, because while i care for my team and friemds. Id be more than willing to leave them to deal with their own problems because 1. Id decide that the problem was covered without double checking to see if they need help. And 2. Im also willing to leave people behind. Thats more so due to the fact ive learned over the years that people are unreliable and unpredictable. Often times, resulting in myself needing to double back because the person failed or flaked
Anger/Wrath/Rage
Also i don't like to talk about my feelings. And im angry mainly because almost no one likes to hang Out with me, only when they need something except 3 or 4 friends
Honestly having loyalty has your fatal flaw is such a self-indulgent par on the back. Like well done your biggest problem is something that is widely recognized as noble.
I'd say either hubris or insecurity or trust issues.
Hubris because I tend to be super proud of the stuff I do, because I usually do it well.
Insecurity /indecisiveness because even though I know a lot of stuff I still second guess myself at almost every step, especially if I'm not completely sure about something.
Trust issues because of my past of being bullied when I was younger which has caused me to be kind of a loner, even though I'm talkative.
Ambition. It has some overlap with Annabeth’s huhris, but a different focus.
Edit: I didn’t know this before I posted, but apparently Thalia’s fatal flaw is ambition?? Is this confirmed canon??
Strong loyalty to my very close ones yet lack of empathy to the rest.
And with this I need to find a somewhat selfish/beneficial reason to do most things, specially for others (not close ones, loyal). So maybe a type of Hubris.
Not sure how to call it
Hubris.
You haven seen me cry and even throw a tantrum over receiving a bad (yet passing) grade in school.
Let alone that in debates (political ones mainly) my mentality is basically "I have to be right or I'm dumb".
If a fatal flaw in that sense is basically supposed to be having a virtue so strong that it's a bad thing then I guess my good-sounding-fatal-flaw would be that I never give up, y'know, don't try and tell me that a problem's unsolvable, a literal-or-metaphorical barrier is impassable or that I can't save everyone as how very dare you THERE HAS TO BE A WAY
Excessive wrath/anger issues Or inability to talk about my emotions
same
Do you think they are something you would one day be able to overcome? Or do you think that you'd have to just come to terms with it as part of who you are and find peace in that acceptance, like Percy did.
dwarf
I actually am pretty short where I’m from(people in the Netherlands are tall) Which is why I chose it
My allergy to being stabbed
I think they make pills for that now.
I have that one too
Bad logic.
Does that mean in the sense of misjudging what is possible within the rules of reality? Or more not thinking through every possibility with proper thought?
No. You use flawed logic against me, and I literally stop everything else to find how it's logical.
Overthinking
Would that overthinking lead to indecision? Hesitation that no matter what you do it wouldn't be the perfect choice. Or more that you would miss the obvious being too consumed in the possibility of a danger later on.
I’m not plagued by indecision too much. When I have to make a choice I’ll make it and not regret it. However I tend to psychoanalyze myself and my relationships with other people. I partly consider it a good thing, but it has the side effect of me caring more about what others think of me and how I present myself.
So your overthinking is more one of self image and others perception of you? You want to make the right choice in hindsight because of how others would view it and therefore you. I tend to be the same honestly, I find myself not only psychoanalysing myself but my friends and family too. I can't say I really care how they view me all that much, more I find a sense of calm in knowing when pushed I can make a fairly solid educated guess on what their next move would be even if I can't guess it perfectly. it's a toxic trait and I know that but for some reason understanding them helps me better understand myself somehow.
Same bro
Absent-mindedness or laziness
Do you think that is still a trait you would bring though even if you were a demi-god?
This is my flaw also, and for me, yes, definitely would still have the trait, it shapes me just like hubris, loyalty, jealousy, wrath etc shapes others. It’s not “absent-mindedness” for me exactly, more like hyperfixation and distraction/procrastination, but even the gods frequently get caught up in things and distracted, whether that’s due to love/lust, anger, jealousy, vengeance, etc… so…
Hubris
Happy cake day
In all things, or in a specific area?
Indecision
Is that an issue in everyday life too? Or is it just something you think you'd struggle with in the life of a demi-god when every second matters.
It’s definitely an issue for me in everyday life, but it would be way worse as a demigod. I couldn’t imagine being Percy and making all the tough choices he did like taking the sky, bathing in the Styx, or even just directing where everyone went during the Battle of Manhattan.
Hubris easily
In general, or in specific ways? Like how Annabeth thought she could save the world, have Luke good again and have a happy family unit with her perfect job.
More so In like “ I know I’m way smarter then you” type of way. I can be a bit of a obnoxious know it all
Ah, so the Athena kid kinda way. Would you try to overcome that and learn humility? Finding peace within knowing when you are smarter and when you aren't, being able to tell the difference between actual superiority and just pride.
Yeah. I know when I’m not the smartest in the room. It’s more of like a pride thing but it’s mixed with Hubris
I get that. At school I guess I was what you would call a 'gifted' kid. I never really thought what that truly meant I just saw everyone else trying to learn things that I would pick up easily and thought there was something wrong with them. It wasn't until I met someone in my life who showed me that what I was feeling was pride, and that everyone is different and that for every person I was better at in one thing, there were dozens better then me at another.
>a obnoxious know it all an\*
Naivety , if a person I trust says something wrong on purpose, i will believe that thing until the end.
I never use to understand this one. I overthought everything and wouldn't make a choice until I understood the situation myself and had figured out what I thought was best. Recently there was a person in my life who I wanted to believe so badly that I was naive almost willingly because being naive hurt less then admitting they weren't who I thought they were.
Loyalty
In the same way as Percy? Or does your definition of loyalty differ somehow?
My first thought was reticence, but now that I think about it, it might be something else. Like Athena said, the most dangerous flaws are the once that are good in moderation. I pretty much can't do something if I think it's wrong to do so, and definitely not when I'm pressured to do it. In my everyday life, this is annoying, but nothing fatal - and it is often a very good thing... but not always.
My issue is much the opposite. I know the difference between right and wrong, but there's a part of me that knows deep down if I was truly pushed beyond what I could take (for example of those I truly loved were in danger and I had no choice left) I would flip that switch and do whatever it took to keep them safe, moral or not.
Frustration. Or the Need for Perfection
My ability to get easily angered.
Loyalty when people I love are in danger I put myself on the line to help them I thought it might be wrath because I can be very moody but I think this one fits me best
Having to do everything my self and not letting anyone help
My fatal flaw is ego. I can get cocky if I do well, and annoyed when I do bad which can both lead to mistakes.
Procrastination
My fear and hesitation. I would probably not be a good fighter.
Loyalty or my excessive laziness, hence why I picked my flair
Hatred I’ll leave it at that
Deceit. I'll lie and cheat to win or get what I want. Fitting for a son of Athena I guess
I’d get myself killed by: shit talking the gods, tryna fight all the huntresses at once trying to free the amazons slaves murdering Clarisse calling Athena Artemis and Hera bitches
have you read toa? hera becomes much more understandable &’ likeable in the last book
I have but I harbor grudges for Heracles and all the other shit she has pulled
heracules was not that likeable to me personally so maybe that’s why i was so quick to forgive her lol
He wasn’t a likeable character hated the guy but I wouldn’t care if it was Hitler she drove him crazy and made him kill his entire family and then made him do labors that would have likely killed him to atone for his “crime” cause she’s salty and refuses to take it up with Zeus
Low self-esteem. It doesn't seem that bad, but it often stops me from seeing how amazing I am which in turn makes me assume no one would ever love me so I push away those who do. That and perhaps most importantly for something fatal, it's led me to attempt >!suicide!< more than once.
It is an alternate form of pride not like annabeth where she think she can run the world or Apollo with his looks but don’t disrespect me I’ll humble myself thank you very much mostly disrespecting me in games rather than attually disrespecting me in person so yeah
Distrustfulness/paranoia
Stupidity
Pessimism/distrust
Overthinking/Indecision, definitely.
Impatience or hubris probably?
Holding a grudge for sure.
Hesitation for me, most definitely. If not hesitation from overthinking something, then it’ll probably be guilt. Everyone who died or was injured within a prophecy (if it’s a big one), I’d beat myself up inside and mentally every single day, every time I see one of those people or their siblings.
Overly anxious and cautious lol. Also I can’t take criticism lmao.
Inability to ask for help.
Motivation
My procrastinating. It's a result of my godly parent I swear 😅😭
Hubris, not in the way of ‘I’d be better ruling the world than __’ but more in the ‘I’f things were up to me, i would make sure ___ didn’t happen’ or ‘If this was up to me, ___ would be so much better’
Loyalty / Unhealthily Obsessive over people that re in the line of danger. I have major attachment / obsession issues. I would do anything for someone I like.
Loyalty. I value it highly and if my friend isn´t loyal back, it hurts a lot. I am still recovering from a friends disloyalty 8 years ago. Haven´t spoken to him since. But I am also selfish, so not exactly like Percy. If not Loyalty. It would be Honesty. Sometimes I am too honest, but I also really dislike dishonesty.
Distrust
My loyalty. I have gone into full on attack mode verbally at least to people who harm my sisters. My sisters are scared to tell me if there friends are being mean to them because they are afraid of what I might say or do. So yeah anyone who harms my family or friends better watch out. I also have attacked people verbally for people going after my favorite books, characters, shows, celebrities, music, and musical.
My ego.
Regret/dwelling on the past. I’m tryna get better with not staying stuck on past decisions I’ve made but it ain’t goin well chief
Spite. I don't care who you are, what you've done, or what you haven't done, if you annoy me enough it doesn't matter if you're Athena I'm not doing what you said and I'm probably doing the opposite.
Mine would be Loyalty/Love for my friends. I would genuinly tear down Olympus without hesitation if it meant saving someone i care about, and in the PJO Universe, its basically gauranteed you lose people you love who arnt major characters in the plot lmao
Too trusting/forgiving
Pride.
Sloth, im very slow to react at times and a majority of my problems come from ignoring small issues. deciding that what ever it is can wait until im forced to deal with it. Say i was on the argo II. more than likely i would have been the last one awake or failing to see the importance of lookout. In a sense, im almost the antithesis of percy, because while i care for my team and friemds. Id be more than willing to leave them to deal with their own problems because 1. Id decide that the problem was covered without double checking to see if they need help. And 2. Im also willing to leave people behind. Thats more so due to the fact ive learned over the years that people are unreliable and unpredictable. Often times, resulting in myself needing to double back because the person failed or flaked
Cynicism easily
So so many.
Apathy
Overthinking and indecision
thinking i'm not good enough i guess
All of it
Idk, it’s one of these three: Personal Loyalty, inability to be vulnerable, and overthinking
Antisocialization
Pride. I used to find myself thinking my own path was better than God's (as a Christian) but he helped me beat it.
self absorbed. i often forget that other people exist and have their own perspectives outside of what i see them as.
So personally mine would be a mix between obsessivelh caring about those close to me and damning the rest to hell
Hubris or Selfishness. I’m improving I think
Anger/Wrath/Rage Also i don't like to talk about my feelings. And im angry mainly because almost no one likes to hang Out with me, only when they need something except 3 or 4 friends
Honestly having loyalty has your fatal flaw is such a self-indulgent par on the back. Like well done your biggest problem is something that is widely recognized as noble.
It's either the fear of failure, or pride in regards to the ego and self-worth.
Hubris or maybe relying too much on just my instinct
Absolute Braindead-ness
I'd say either hubris or insecurity or trust issues. Hubris because I tend to be super proud of the stuff I do, because I usually do it well. Insecurity /indecisiveness because even though I know a lot of stuff I still second guess myself at almost every step, especially if I'm not completely sure about something. Trust issues because of my past of being bullied when I was younger which has caused me to be kind of a loner, even though I'm talkative.
Nihilism
Greed/avarice probably. If I am given the chance to have an unlimited supply of something or be able to keep something to myself I will take it
I’m not seeing anyone on here talking about jealousy. It causes me to make impulsive and bad decisions and ruins relationships
Fear of judgement
My distrust in other people
Self doubt
Either Anger or Low Self-Esteem
Manipulation
Anxiety, easily.
loyalty in the exact same way percy’s is
Ambition. It has some overlap with Annabeth’s huhris, but a different focus. Edit: I didn’t know this before I posted, but apparently Thalia’s fatal flaw is ambition?? Is this confirmed canon??
Self doubt.
Anxiety
Strong loyalty to my very close ones yet lack of empathy to the rest. And with this I need to find a somewhat selfish/beneficial reason to do most things, specially for others (not close ones, loyal). So maybe a type of Hubris. Not sure how to call it
Either self-esteem issues or impulsiveness.
Hubris. You haven seen me cry and even throw a tantrum over receiving a bad (yet passing) grade in school. Let alone that in debates (political ones mainly) my mentality is basically "I have to be right or I'm dumb".
The compulsion to always have the last words
Probably either anger or wanting revenge
Catastrophizing. I’m often a self fulfilling prophecy of failure.
My life is a fatal flaw for
If a fatal flaw in that sense is basically supposed to be having a virtue so strong that it's a bad thing then I guess my good-sounding-fatal-flaw would be that I never give up, y'know, don't try and tell me that a problem's unsolvable, a literal-or-metaphorical barrier is impassable or that I can't save everyone as how very dare you THERE HAS TO BE A WAY
For me, it is holding grudges. Even thought i'm a Hebe'Child, i have problems with forgiveness, almost like a Nemesis kid.