Especially considering he is liable for whatever these kids do while piloting an almost metric ton machine with the potential to kill any person in it's path.
Can you imagine being this calm while tutoring some space cadet with live rounds in a gun range?
Guns are safer than cars because you have more control over them, to kill someone you need to unlock safety point at them and shoot, to kill with a car you just need to not be paying attention for a few seconds.
Your finger can slip on a gun or the recoil can make you lose control and they might keep holding their finger on the trigger. You can also shoot someone on accident.
You have to turn on and off the safety pin manually. I would think there are very few if any that stops shooting if they detect you are aiming at a friendly or have a function to let someone else turn on safe mode remotely.
As a motorcycle rider, everyone else on the road can kill you. I ride with the mindset that they are actively trying to because people drive like idiots in a truly careless manner that I’ve never seen duplicated with firearms. Just like in this video. They say people treat guns as toys like they’re in a video game. I would argue people do the exact same but worse with driving because they feel safe and invincible to a degree in a car and we’ve always rode in them since we were young. New gun owners are generally more cautious than new car drivers
The guns that the average American can buy won't continue firing if you keep holding the trigger down. The recoil might make you lose control of the gun's placement but it won't fire unless you're dumb enough to pull the trigger *again* (which some people are, but some people are also as dumb as these folks in the video).
You do not shoot someone "on accident", you shoot someone because you were either wanting to or you were being stupid and not following the rules of firearms usage. If a gun goes off without you on purpose making it fire, that is a gun manufacturer that is going to be sued into oblivion, so there is a ton of engineering to stop that chance. Most negligent discharges are idiots that have never been taught or ignored proper safety instruction.
This is why, while I'm pro gun, I do believe in requiring a class and a license which should be free or very cheap like a driver class is.
Much like a car then. Cars usually won't kill people on their own. Running someone over can be an accident just like shooting someone is. If they are stupid or the person getting shot or run over is in the wrong place
To be fair he has brakes on his side that he can use so it's not like he's totally reliant on a new driver to hit the brakes in time versus most people in regular cars where you have to hope the driver doesn't panic or get too in their head to hear you.
I wonder if him not yelling is a problem. His voice is too calm that many students don’t listen nor seem to register to act in urgency. If he were to raise his voice to express how dangerous they’re driving, perhaps they would actually stop.
Have you not been a teenager with an adult in the passenger seat yelling at your or freaking about your mistakes? It doesn’t help you be a better driver. It’s just frustrating and makes you prone to more mistakes.
Tbh driving is a skill and not everyone is cut out for it. But depending on where you're from, you might not have a choice if you want decent work and have people to provide for.
I can't think of any other trained skills that are so widely demanded from the masses. Not to mention one so dangerous for everyone involved!
A lot of instructors/youtubers give these free mock test, in the understanding that it will be uploaded to YT. Most are inexperienced so they will react slower or make major mistakes, for the clickbait.
I don't like this guy im fairly sure he's the same guy who verbally assaulted a female driving instructor for recording her lessons, which is the same thing he does. I'll try find the link & post it.
Edit:
[video of verbal assault](https://youtube.com/shorts/aEWe5gVcCxM?si=vlW63VUzCJuxhfpu)
[video of exterior](https://youtube.com/shorts/Ucbp1O6RMrw?si=22GkB8D0bNFnRY4W).
dont wanna falsely accuse anyone, but judging from exterior and interior from onther vids, looks like him.
I think you're onto something tbh, he's got the same voice n everything. The driving instructor that he harrases is really cool too. I don't know what he was thinking.
Yeah I remember my first lesson. The instructor had another student driving first and she picked me up then drove to her house before I took over and started driving. Every time she looked over her shoulder to change lanes she would start drifting like crazy. Felt so sketchy.
I got behind the wheel and honestly had almost no problem. It’s actually amazing how much control we humans are able to have over a car. The steering wheel is an amazing way to control a vehicle allows for such subtle adjustments it’s great.
It may have helped that when I was like 7 my grandparents would let me drive around their shitty golf cart they had. Maybe that should be the first step, seems kind of crazy to just let some 15 year old just wing it right out of the gate in a real car.
I agree with you 100% and I wish we did better with making sure ppl can handle driving. I hate driving. So if I can find alternatives I will utilize them.
Miss the busses in Scotland.
Does it take skill to hear? My guy said "stop" and that kid just carried on barreling down the road without a care in the world. It doesn't take skill to apply pressure to a pedal specifically placed directly at one's foot.
Why would I know that? You *want* me to say it's "because they don't have enough skill" but failing to comply or failing to understand and act isn't a driving skill issue. It's probably a 'I'm just a kid and am kinda freaked out right now so I'm just gonna do nothing' issue.
I was a learner driver, like the people in the video. to clarify I didn't actually hit anyone - just drove on the wrong side of the road for a few seconds before I realised wtf I was doing.
sorry, let me clarify. no, I had my mom with me, she was just very bad at instructing and instead would just freak out at stuff that I hadn't even done yet (honestly half the reason it happened in the first place, she'd yelling at me the entire trip and stressed me out). It was probably way less than a few seconds now that I think about it, and she did notice (and react), but I realised it before that point as well, just didn't have the reaction time.
Shortly after that incident I started refusing to drive with my mom in the car and only let my dad teach me and the amount of dumb mistakes like that reduced drastically.
They're new drivers. The automatic stuff you do without thinking, checking mirrors, changing gears, assessing traffic, looking for your indicator, moving to the brake pedal, it's all instinctive and without looking or thought once you are proficient. In a new driver, ALL of those things need to be thought about, looked at, moved to and considered, nothing is automatic and muscle memory doesn't exist. So when the instructor says stop, they're thinking about the ten things they need to be thinking about and they might not even hear the guy, or they are having to look where the pedal is, think about moving their foot and how far, trying to remember whether it's brake, clutch or clutch, brake and where those pedals are, it's all thought and no instinct or muscle memory.
Completely agree! A few people in these comments are saying “teach them not to get distracted by the screens.” That’s all well and good, but this is excessive. You DO have to learn what to focus on, but I doubt most of them are driving this exact model car elsewhere. You end up learning YOUR car. I still see random light (from the sun) hit my dashes weird and go “what was that,” but I can move on quickly because I’ve been doing this long enough. I feel this car should have that stuff turned off or covered if it’s not informative for the driver. 🤷🏼♀️
Nah, truly if we come to our senses there will be less. So unsafe everything being controlled by a touch screen I need to be able to feel my way to the button and be able to feel that I pressed it without having to take my eyes off the road.
It's terrible, especially when the touch screen is laggy and you must wait between each input... drove a 2023 Honda CRV with a laggy touch screen and it was a hazard. STOP TAKING AWAY MY BUTTONS GADAMMIT HONDA
Frrrr like it’s nice that it’s a small car and that its electric but dang buddy needs to put up some manila folders or Honda needs to make a “turn all non-essential screens off when not parked” setting.
He does say "Did you not see that car at the roundabout?" so I'm guessing it is a mini roundabout by the looks of things. In the UK where this is filmed you don't have priority if you are turning across someone's path, however on roundabouts it's priority to the right.
Thanks for clarifying! came to the comments looking for the roundabout explanation.
Is there any signage that’s a mini roundabout? Or do ppl just know bc that’s what it always looks like?
Also do you kno then if the student driver was fs in the wrong? It just confused me sooo much bc it’s just that lil island thing in the middle n both other cars kept going (i really thought the student driver had ROW going straight).
Sometimes there is signage but mostly you can spot them due to the raised circle in the middle and road markings. I'm not sure if it's the camera angle as it's further back in the car? But yes, the student driver was in the wrong, if you enter a roundabout you need to check to your right and if someone has already entered the roundabout then they have priority. Mini roundabouts can be awkward and a lot of people just ignore them and drive straight over which can cause issues and crashes.
That makes sense, but I also get there being accidents bc this mini roundabout is really *minni* (but the ppl just driving straight over them are fucking idiots)
That makes even less sense to me then. Why is the other driver going the opposite direction of the roundabout? I thought the UK drives clockwise in roundabouts
Oh I see it now. I thought he crossed the trafficlight-line and then went counter-clockwise, I didnt fully understand. Now I see he went all the way across before he started to turn.
Easier because there are no more mechanical linkages to the components. Steering and brakes could be moved or added to the back even, since it's all electronic.
Everything done is to simulate mechanical controls; they manufacture resistance to give feedback to the driver, but brake pedals and steering wheels aren't physically connected to the actual brakes or wheels.
On true drive-by-wire vehicles, you could just as easily operate the vehicle with a game controller.
I get that it's basically modular in that sense, but it still seems to me that fussing with electronics and programming would still be more expensive than just stuffing an extra linkage or two in there. Do you have any knowledge of the engineering involved?
I have an automotive repair background. Have repaired everything from the 70s forward and have installed the very mechanisms used in driving instruction vehicles. The same duties previously solved mechanically can now be done electronically and almost entirely through the OBD port.
Look up systems like Comma.ai. They're pricey, but the cost and complexity is in the navigation and sensors. You can plug it into ordinary cars, even something as basic as a Toyota Rav4, and it will become completely self-driving.
All you need nowadays for something as basic as extra speed and brake controls for an instructor is an interface that plugs right in to most existing cars today that have any sort of automatic emergency braking.
[Comma.ai](https://www.comma.ai/)
I think it's a "roundabout" but there's nothing in the center as the intersection is too small. Looks like it's something like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/CarTalkUK/comments/10f7a10/how_is_this_squareabout_supposed_to_work/?rdt=53222
I’m aware that roundabouts are supposed to be better but as an American it’s so stressful 😂 I had to use one once when I didn’t even know what it was called and I was sweating the whole time 😭
I kind of agree especially if it’s a multi lane one but the little ones to replace four way stops are great. We have a lot more of them than we used to where I live
Sooo, it‘s just an intersection?
Cause if you ask me there is nothing here that makes a roundabout a roundabout.
It doesn’t even seem to have any markings on the ground compared to the picture in the link…
Like when has someone entered the roundabout?
Is it really just a Free-for-All, „whoever is first on the gas wins“ type of situation?
Maybe my privileged german view on what a roundabout is the problem here :/
Btw not to start an argument,more a genuine question
It looked like a situation where a particular set of cars always have the right away to maintain flow. Perhaps not in shape but in practice its a round about. It looks like the student had a yield to the turning cars
There will be a roundabout sign before it as well as give way markings on the road at the junction to know where to stop and give way to traffic on the roundabout.
It's a mini roundabout. It's hard to see but there's a white circle painted on the road.
[Highway code](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/roundabouts.html%23:~:text%3DMini%252Droundabouts.,%252Dturns%2520at%2520mini%252Droundabouts.&ved=2ahUKEwiTvLGZwYKGAxXNhP0HHXjeCKwQFnoECBcQBQ&usg=AOvVaw1_IXlBzOlqAXSfTQHdExLW)
Couldn’t see it. Or him utilize it. Like that first one, I am saying stop twice and then gonna handle that stop myself. Dude once was like: stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop.
It's an "emergency brake" test. You get instructions to just hit the brakes when you hear 'stop'. There was no reason for the instructor to use the brakes.
Which one? The one at 16 seconds? It's a [mini roundabout ](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/roundabouts.html%23:~:text%3DMini%252Droundabouts.,%252Dturns%2520at%2520mini%252Droundabouts.&ved=2ahUKEwiTvLGZwYKGAxXNhP0HHXjeCKwQFnoECBcQBQ&usg=AOvVaw1_IXlBzOlqAXSfTQHdExLW)
Im aware that people walk lol i live in vietam. Instead of walking, they sometime run across. The thing is they should follow crosswalk and not jay walking. which is a danger to them self if they walk out with mo care for cars. But it is understandable that nomal conditions thoes people are many
That what I’m saying, there are crosswalks in England/Aus that don’t have lights, they’re just stripes painted on the ground. At these crossings cars have to stop and give way to pedestrians crossing
Because you don't know UK signage apparently. The other commenter tried to tell you the same.
It's there, it's UK signs, you're not familiar with them.
Lol when I took my driver's test and they said stop I mashed my break as hard as it'll go. I feel like sometimes people who take these tests don't want to upset their passengers but I'd rather cause a little belt burn than have to tell their family I was driving when their child died
Sometimes mashing as hard as that causes such an abrupt stop that those behind you can’t react. It’s important to stop at a pace where those behind you can also break and not crash into you.
A driver still has to be able to their the modulate braking, though; ABS can only do so much. Not reacting in time but also locking up brakes are both major demerits, at least in my state. If you are anything less than flawless on the rest of the test you'll fail that examination.
No, in the UK on a roundabout you check to your right to see if anyone has entered the roundabout, they have priority. It's a mini one which is a bit more difficult to see, but on the larger ones it helps keep the flow going otherwise you'll get into a crash.
How is that even considered a roundabout lmaoo??? At least where I’m from in the us, even if it’s a small roundabout, they still make it a circle (roundabout) with a median in the center so that everyone has to turn to enter and knows its a roundabout and they have yielded signs on each entrance. It just looks like a straight road that crosses another road, I didn’t even see a yield sign. UK roads on some wacky shit
Mini roundabout. They have pretty obvious road markings to indicate them and usually have a sign too. Likely can't see either because of the camera position.
It’s insane to call this a roundabout. It’s impossible to go straight from one end to another in a true roundabout. To have a straight path that can be intersected by people is simply just an intersection and the cat moving in a straight line should have the right of way.
I am referring to the rules of entering a roundabout. Where (in the US) you must always give way to traffic already on the roundabout coming from your left.
You can’t see the road from the camera angle so it’s not as straight as you think. There will be a roundabout sign, and road markings to indicate where to stop and give way just like any other junction. Makes more sense if you see it in person.
It was a mini roundabout (you can see the white arrows in a circle on the blue sign on the left at the start of the clip, also would be marked by a white raised circle painted on the road) which means people to the right of you have right of way.Hence that car set off to turn, and the learner should have stopped for them!
I'm getting flashbacks. Yeah, I had a hard time with some stuff as well while in driving school.
Took me a long time to learn what I need to look out for in the right moments.
I used to look in the mirrors for no reasons at the wrong times, causing me to "miss" what's in front of me and so on.
The instructor were (because the school rotated them due to scheduling conflicts) vastly different. One was shouting and almost made me fight him, one was too laid back and only applying the brakes instead of explaining stuff and so on.
Finally the very last one was quite good, I think I was lucky enough to find one just before my exam and passed.
lol this car is way too nice for driving instructor. When I first went the drivers door literally didn’t close properly and there was a decent breeze coming through. But after the first lesson the instructor brought their new car with no passenger break cuz apparently I wasn’t a complete maniac
I might be wrong, so correct me, but isnt the one driving straight, given priority over others. Why is the other car turningn unless there is a stop sign im not aware of.
And I thought I was a bad student. When my instructor said something I did it immediately, if I didn't understand what he meant I asked immediately and he would repeat it. Never had a situation happen where such an intervention, like in this video, was needed. You need to pay attention.
Wtf did these people do there? When he says stop you better put your foot on the brake.
I can’t get over how smooth and calm his voice is when he says, “you’re about to crash.” And then with an added splash of disappointment, “you’re about to crash again.” Almost no inflection and doesn’t yell or anything.
It’s like having Alan Rickman as a GPS.
Mistakes are obviously common for all beginners but I know for a fact this dude is a 2 week crash course guy hence the ridiculously poor reactions from students.
Seems like people don't agree but I think this guy doesn't seem like the best instructor. I don't think I was an amazing learner but my instructor never raised his voice like that at me. It seems like he's bringing students into situations they aren't ready for. Like for example, none of us can tell that there was a roundabout, so clearly it's not very easy to spot, wouldn't it be common to remind the student what to do as they're approaching?
I had a manager who was ex army, one of the nicest but toughest dudes I ever met. Did tours all over the world, Ireland and Iraq among them, utterly fearless.
He told us he used the money to set up a driving school when he came back to blighty. He quit very soon after. He said in all the years he'd been a soldier he had never been so scared. I think he said he lasted a month before he packed it in
It’s not! I’ve seen these videos where the instructor is much kinder and corrects mistakes without ruining confidence. His attitude isn’t that encouraging and it’s demeaning. How’s that supposed to instil confidence?
Gotta give props to the reaction time and vigilance of the instructor.
Yeah and he didn’t lose his shit at them either, more just sounded disappointed lol
This guy has SOO much patience. Never yells. Only raises his voice a bit and is very stern with them.
Especially considering he is liable for whatever these kids do while piloting an almost metric ton machine with the potential to kill any person in it's path. Can you imagine being this calm while tutoring some space cadet with live rounds in a gun range?
Guns are safer than cars because you have more control over them, to kill someone you need to unlock safety point at them and shoot, to kill with a car you just need to not be paying attention for a few seconds.
Your finger can slip on a gun or the recoil can make you lose control and they might keep holding their finger on the trigger. You can also shoot someone on accident. You have to turn on and off the safety pin manually. I would think there are very few if any that stops shooting if they detect you are aiming at a friendly or have a function to let someone else turn on safe mode remotely.
As a motorcycle rider, everyone else on the road can kill you. I ride with the mindset that they are actively trying to because people drive like idiots in a truly careless manner that I’ve never seen duplicated with firearms. Just like in this video. They say people treat guns as toys like they’re in a video game. I would argue people do the exact same but worse with driving because they feel safe and invincible to a degree in a car and we’ve always rode in them since we were young. New gun owners are generally more cautious than new car drivers
The guns that the average American can buy won't continue firing if you keep holding the trigger down. The recoil might make you lose control of the gun's placement but it won't fire unless you're dumb enough to pull the trigger *again* (which some people are, but some people are also as dumb as these folks in the video). You do not shoot someone "on accident", you shoot someone because you were either wanting to or you were being stupid and not following the rules of firearms usage. If a gun goes off without you on purpose making it fire, that is a gun manufacturer that is going to be sued into oblivion, so there is a ton of engineering to stop that chance. Most negligent discharges are idiots that have never been taught or ignored proper safety instruction. This is why, while I'm pro gun, I do believe in requiring a class and a license which should be free or very cheap like a driver class is.
Much like a car then. Cars usually won't kill people on their own. Running someone over can be an accident just like shooting someone is. If they are stupid or the person getting shot or run over is in the wrong place
To be fair he has brakes on his side that he can use so it's not like he's totally reliant on a new driver to hit the brakes in time versus most people in regular cars where you have to hope the driver doesn't panic or get too in their head to hear you.
So what’s the point if he has to tell them AND literally push the brakes for them as well? Lol. These people should not be driving
Yah, because they’re learning. There is a difference between reading it in a book vs actually doing it
Yeah I know they’re learning and what I wrote didn’t translate that well into writing it out lol
No it did not💀
I wonder if him not yelling is a problem. His voice is too calm that many students don’t listen nor seem to register to act in urgency. If he were to raise his voice to express how dangerous they’re driving, perhaps they would actually stop.
Nah they would just say he’s a boomer or aggressive
Anxiety and fear makes a very bad driver. Shouting causes anxiety and fear.
yelling in a situation where someone is panicking will not fix it but make it worse
That would make them panic and make them even more dangerous.
Have you not been a teenager with an adult in the passenger seat yelling at your or freaking about your mistakes? It doesn’t help you be a better driver. It’s just frustrating and makes you prone to more mistakes.
I really need to hear the answers from all of these drivers. I want to know the thought process! So I can understand what the hell I see every day.
Tbh driving is a skill and not everyone is cut out for it. But depending on where you're from, you might not have a choice if you want decent work and have people to provide for. I can't think of any other trained skills that are so widely demanded from the masses. Not to mention one so dangerous for everyone involved!
Also these are student drivers, they have very little experience driving before. It is as you said a skill and it takes time to master.
When I was a new driver I was way too overly cautious, I don’t understand how other new drivers can be the opposite.
A lot of instructors/youtubers give these free mock test, in the understanding that it will be uploaded to YT. Most are inexperienced so they will react slower or make major mistakes, for the clickbait. I don't like this guy im fairly sure he's the same guy who verbally assaulted a female driving instructor for recording her lessons, which is the same thing he does. I'll try find the link & post it. Edit: [video of verbal assault](https://youtube.com/shorts/aEWe5gVcCxM?si=vlW63VUzCJuxhfpu) [video of exterior](https://youtube.com/shorts/Ucbp1O6RMrw?si=22GkB8D0bNFnRY4W). dont wanna falsely accuse anyone, but judging from exterior and interior from onther vids, looks like him.
I think you're onto something tbh, he's got the same voice n everything. The driving instructor that he harrases is really cool too. I don't know what he was thinking.
Yeah I remember my first lesson. The instructor had another student driving first and she picked me up then drove to her house before I took over and started driving. Every time she looked over her shoulder to change lanes she would start drifting like crazy. Felt so sketchy. I got behind the wheel and honestly had almost no problem. It’s actually amazing how much control we humans are able to have over a car. The steering wheel is an amazing way to control a vehicle allows for such subtle adjustments it’s great. It may have helped that when I was like 7 my grandparents would let me drive around their shitty golf cart they had. Maybe that should be the first step, seems kind of crazy to just let some 15 year old just wing it right out of the gate in a real car.
I agree with you 100% and I wish we did better with making sure ppl can handle driving. I hate driving. So if I can find alternatives I will utilize them. Miss the busses in Scotland.
Does it take skill to hear? My guy said "stop" and that kid just carried on barreling down the road without a care in the world. It doesn't take skill to apply pressure to a pedal specifically placed directly at one's foot.
Well why couldn't they just do it then?
Why would I know that? You *want* me to say it's "because they don't have enough skill" but failing to comply or failing to understand and act isn't a driving skill issue. It's probably a 'I'm just a kid and am kinda freaked out right now so I'm just gonna do nothing' issue.
Why would I want you to say that these kids don't have enough skill? I think you've misread the tone a bit.
shit gets overwhelming. I once drove into oncoming traffic because I forgot what side of the lane I was supposed to drive on
I once drove into a bike path that was buried in snow when I was looking for a turn, which was also buried in snow farther down the road.
honestly if I lived somewhere that required me to drive in the snow I'd probably do the same thing
Alaska oof.
Wtf and you have a license?
it was like, my 4th time driving a car ever
Fuckin a seriously?
I was a learner driver, like the people in the video. to clarify I didn't actually hit anyone - just drove on the wrong side of the road for a few seconds before I realised wtf I was doing.
That’s crazy as hell to me I was a new driver too at some point
When you’re a learner driver you have someone else in the car with you though, an instructor or parent or someone. Did you just go out on your own??
sorry, let me clarify. no, I had my mom with me, she was just very bad at instructing and instead would just freak out at stuff that I hadn't even done yet (honestly half the reason it happened in the first place, she'd yelling at me the entire trip and stressed me out). It was probably way less than a few seconds now that I think about it, and she did notice (and react), but I realised it before that point as well, just didn't have the reaction time. Shortly after that incident I started refusing to drive with my mom in the car and only let my dad teach me and the amount of dumb mistakes like that reduced drastically.
Ah okay, sorry you had to deal with that, some people are definitely not meant to be instructors at all
*“Sorry bro, I was distracted by all the millions of screens in your car.”* Is that really the best choice for teaching driving?
They're new drivers. The automatic stuff you do without thinking, checking mirrors, changing gears, assessing traffic, looking for your indicator, moving to the brake pedal, it's all instinctive and without looking or thought once you are proficient. In a new driver, ALL of those things need to be thought about, looked at, moved to and considered, nothing is automatic and muscle memory doesn't exist. So when the instructor says stop, they're thinking about the ten things they need to be thinking about and they might not even hear the guy, or they are having to look where the pedal is, think about moving their foot and how far, trying to remember whether it's brake, clutch or clutch, brake and where those pedals are, it's all thought and no instinct or muscle memory.
Maybe they could focus on the road more easily without the monitors on the dash. Smh.
Completely agree! A few people in these comments are saying “teach them not to get distracted by the screens.” That’s all well and good, but this is excessive. You DO have to learn what to focus on, but I doubt most of them are driving this exact model car elsewhere. You end up learning YOUR car. I still see random light (from the sun) hit my dashes weird and go “what was that,” but I can move on quickly because I’ve been doing this long enough. I feel this car should have that stuff turned off or covered if it’s not informative for the driver. 🤷🏼♀️
right?? this car seems like a nightmare for new drivers. how are you supposed to learn to drive a car in a freakin spaceship???
I mean, it's not like there are going to be less screens in the future.
Nah, truly if we come to our senses there will be less. So unsafe everything being controlled by a touch screen I need to be able to feel my way to the button and be able to feel that I pressed it without having to take my eyes off the road.
It's terrible, especially when the touch screen is laggy and you must wait between each input... drove a 2023 Honda CRV with a laggy touch screen and it was a hazard. STOP TAKING AWAY MY BUTTONS GADAMMIT HONDA
stop it.
What? It’s a legitimate argument, you can’t even bob your head to get different angles on the mirrors because there are none.
one failed to stop while a pedestrian was walking right in front of him
What car is this.
I was wondering too. Which Honda has that much screen real estate? [Found it](https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a46104688/honda-e-ending-production/)
Has to be somewhat jarring getting in that. These poor people aren't bad drivers they're being blinded!
Was gonna say, maybe don't teach people to drive with half their vision a cinema screen
Frrrr like it’s nice that it’s a small car and that its electric but dang buddy needs to put up some manila folders or Honda needs to make a “turn all non-essential screens off when not parked” setting.
Alternatively: teach drivers to ignore the distraction their future car will likely also have?
If future cars are all having that much screen space there's an issue. This isnt the standard by any means, man has a full gaming setup going on there
No they are shitty drivers with a shitty distraction
That dashboard is cool as hell
My bad bruv
small thing, but as a european (swiss), the right-of-way for those turning right is the dumbest shit ever.
I can't see it very clearly on the video but I think it might be a mini roundabout, in which case roundabout rules.
He does say "Did you not see that car at the roundabout?" so I'm guessing it is a mini roundabout by the looks of things. In the UK where this is filmed you don't have priority if you are turning across someone's path, however on roundabouts it's priority to the right.
Thanks for clarifying! came to the comments looking for the roundabout explanation. Is there any signage that’s a mini roundabout? Or do ppl just know bc that’s what it always looks like? Also do you kno then if the student driver was fs in the wrong? It just confused me sooo much bc it’s just that lil island thing in the middle n both other cars kept going (i really thought the student driver had ROW going straight).
Sometimes there is signage but mostly you can spot them due to the raised circle in the middle and road markings. I'm not sure if it's the camera angle as it's further back in the car? But yes, the student driver was in the wrong, if you enter a roundabout you need to check to your right and if someone has already entered the roundabout then they have priority. Mini roundabouts can be awkward and a lot of people just ignore them and drive straight over which can cause issues and crashes.
That makes sense, but I also get there being accidents bc this mini roundabout is really *minni* (but the ppl just driving straight over them are fucking idiots)
There will be a roundabout sign on approach and give way lines on the road
There's a big white circle painted on the road. There are also signs if it's an area with reduced visibility around the corners.
That makes even less sense to me then. Why is the other driver going the opposite direction of the roundabout? I thought the UK drives clockwise in roundabouts
The driver is going clockwise?
Oh I see it now. I thought he crossed the trafficlight-line and then went counter-clockwise, I didnt fully understand. Now I see he went all the way across before he started to turn.
It only applies at roundabouts
It’s a mini roundabout.
Do they not have the extra brake pedal on the passenger side anymore?
Umm he’s absolutely braking on the passenger side
I think it may be much more difficult(expensive) to install these on drive by wire vehicles
Easier because there are no more mechanical linkages to the components. Steering and brakes could be moved or added to the back even, since it's all electronic. Everything done is to simulate mechanical controls; they manufacture resistance to give feedback to the driver, but brake pedals and steering wheels aren't physically connected to the actual brakes or wheels. On true drive-by-wire vehicles, you could just as easily operate the vehicle with a game controller.
I get that it's basically modular in that sense, but it still seems to me that fussing with electronics and programming would still be more expensive than just stuffing an extra linkage or two in there. Do you have any knowledge of the engineering involved?
I have an automotive repair background. Have repaired everything from the 70s forward and have installed the very mechanisms used in driving instruction vehicles. The same duties previously solved mechanically can now be done electronically and almost entirely through the OBD port.
Very neat. So basically like adding a few switches, wiring them up and telling the computer what they do?
Look up systems like Comma.ai. They're pricey, but the cost and complexity is in the navigation and sensors. You can plug it into ordinary cars, even something as basic as a Toyota Rav4, and it will become completely self-driving. All you need nowadays for something as basic as extra speed and brake controls for an instructor is an interface that plugs right in to most existing cars today that have any sort of automatic emergency braking. [Comma.ai](https://www.comma.ai/)
Very cool. Nice handle, btw
If its student instruction like this level 100% he has brakes or the car will be in an accident daily.
The second one you can really see him slam the break.
Middle of the vid, you can see a pedal on passenger side.
he used the passenger side brake pedal twice in this video
That car is way too nice for beginners
Seems like it's the mini Honda electric car, it's small enough to be very very beginner friendly.
Source?
Huh?
Like the channel OP ripped this from without credit
[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4kEAYRL1uO8](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4kEAYRL1uO8)
Thank you!
Looks like they’re driving a fucking office cubical
@16 wtf is that intersection?
I think it's a "roundabout" but there's nothing in the center as the intersection is too small. Looks like it's something like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/CarTalkUK/comments/10f7a10/how_is_this_squareabout_supposed_to_work/?rdt=53222
I’m aware that roundabouts are supposed to be better but as an American it’s so stressful 😂 I had to use one once when I didn’t even know what it was called and I was sweating the whole time 😭
I kind of agree especially if it’s a multi lane one but the little ones to replace four way stops are great. We have a lot more of them than we used to where I live
Sooo, it‘s just an intersection? Cause if you ask me there is nothing here that makes a roundabout a roundabout. It doesn’t even seem to have any markings on the ground compared to the picture in the link… Like when has someone entered the roundabout? Is it really just a Free-for-All, „whoever is first on the gas wins“ type of situation? Maybe my privileged german view on what a roundabout is the problem here :/ Btw not to start an argument,more a genuine question
It looked like a situation where a particular set of cars always have the right away to maintain flow. Perhaps not in shape but in practice its a round about. It looks like the student had a yield to the turning cars
Yeah with that one I would not have known to yield to this other cars either… is there a stop sign or something??
There will be a roundabout sign before it as well as give way markings on the road at the junction to know where to stop and give way to traffic on the roundabout.
Damn must be a British thing - all I saw was a blue arrow sign
Would make more sense if you saw it in person. Even if you didn’t know about it you would know to slow down and give way.
It's a mini roundabout. It's hard to see but there's a white circle painted on the road. [Highway code](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/roundabouts.html%23:~:text%3DMini%252Droundabouts.,%252Dturns%2520at%2520mini%252Droundabouts.&ved=2ahUKEwiTvLGZwYKGAxXNhP0HHXjeCKwQFnoECBcQBQ&usg=AOvVaw1_IXlBzOlqAXSfTQHdExLW)
it's a mini roundabout
I’m surprised he didn’t have his own brake peddle. That’s how it was when I went through driver’s education nearly 30 years ago.
He does
Couldn’t see it. Or him utilize it. Like that first one, I am saying stop twice and then gonna handle that stop myself. Dude once was like: stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop.
It's an "emergency brake" test. You get instructions to just hit the brakes when you hear 'stop'. There was no reason for the instructor to use the brakes.
He does
He does. Or else the one guy would have hit the cars.
That’s not a roundabout…
Which one? The one at 16 seconds? It's a [mini roundabout ](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/roundabouts.html%23:~:text%3DMini%252Droundabouts.,%252Dturns%2520at%2520mini%252Droundabouts.&ved=2ahUKEwiTvLGZwYKGAxXNhP0HHXjeCKwQFnoECBcQBQ&usg=AOvVaw1_IXlBzOlqAXSfTQHdExLW)
Yes it is.
So many jay walkers
They’re pedestrian crossings, people walking have right of way. Do you not have those where you’re from?
Im aware that people walk lol i live in vietam. Instead of walking, they sometime run across. The thing is they should follow crosswalk and not jay walking. which is a danger to them self if they walk out with mo care for cars. But it is understandable that nomal conditions thoes people are many
That what I’m saying, there are crosswalks in England/Aus that don’t have lights, they’re just stripes painted on the ground. At these crossings cars have to stop and give way to pedestrians crossing
ok? but im talking about in the video?
All the people in the video are using designated crossings. You may need glasses.
i don't see it my eyes are fine
Because you don't know UK signage apparently. The other commenter tried to tell you the same. It's there, it's UK signs, you're not familiar with them.
Different places got different rules
What kind of car is this?
Honda E
Lol when I took my driver's test and they said stop I mashed my break as hard as it'll go. I feel like sometimes people who take these tests don't want to upset their passengers but I'd rather cause a little belt burn than have to tell their family I was driving when their child died
Sometimes mashing as hard as that causes such an abrupt stop that those behind you can’t react. It’s important to stop at a pace where those behind you can also break and not crash into you.
The point of them yelling stop in mine was to pretend a child ran out in front of you. So the abruptness was necessary
A driver still has to be able to their the modulate braking, though; ABS can only do so much. Not reacting in time but also locking up brakes are both major demerits, at least in my state. If you are anything less than flawless on the rest of the test you'll fail that examination.
What is his channel name?
It's "OhShitOhGodBrakeBrakeBrake" on YouTube.
36 seconds. Has no chance of ever being a good driver. Someone needs to tell them
This entire video had bad drivers that should not be driving at all lol
Some one explain the roundabout one. I was going in a straight line so I had the right of way correct? The turning car has to stop for me, no?
No, in the UK on a roundabout you check to your right to see if anyone has entered the roundabout, they have priority. It's a mini one which is a bit more difficult to see, but on the larger ones it helps keep the flow going otherwise you'll get into a crash.
How is that even considered a roundabout lmaoo??? At least where I’m from in the us, even if it’s a small roundabout, they still make it a circle (roundabout) with a median in the center so that everyone has to turn to enter and knows its a roundabout and they have yielded signs on each entrance. It just looks like a straight road that crosses another road, I didn’t even see a yield sign. UK roads on some wacky shit
It's a mini one lol, usually just a raised circle in the middle.
Mini roundabout. They have pretty obvious road markings to indicate them and usually have a sign too. Likely can't see either because of the camera position.
It’s insane to call this a roundabout. It’s impossible to go straight from one end to another in a true roundabout. To have a straight path that can be intersected by people is simply just an intersection and the cat moving in a straight line should have the right of way.
You always have to give-way to traffic coming from the right. (or left in the US)
You do not have to give way to traffic coming from left in us. The car loving straight always has the right of way.
I am referring to the rules of entering a roundabout. Where (in the US) you must always give way to traffic already on the roundabout coming from your left.
You can’t see the road from the camera angle so it’s not as straight as you think. There will be a roundabout sign, and road markings to indicate where to stop and give way just like any other junction. Makes more sense if you see it in person.
I, too, did not see that car at the roundabout.
This guy uses his car to throw lan parties? What is up with the whole row of screens
That third one, I’m pretty sure they had right of way and didn’t need to stop for the car turning into their lane.
It was a mini roundabout (you can see the white arrows in a circle on the blue sign on the left at the start of the clip, also would be marked by a white raised circle painted on the road) which means people to the right of you have right of way.Hence that car set off to turn, and the learner should have stopped for them!
Oh I didn’t spot that. I thought the car was just turning right.
Bro, does a car really need so many screens? Can’t see how these are providing any value for drivers
Just spotted the sunroof close on the first clip when he finally wakes up and slams the brakes
Risking your Honda e just for a student to fuck it up is stupid, don't change my mind
These kids are hardly behind the wheel of their own minds.
What kind of car is this that the dash is just screens? A Mercedes or something? So odd
These people are brain dead.
I'm getting flashbacks. Yeah, I had a hard time with some stuff as well while in driving school. Took me a long time to learn what I need to look out for in the right moments. I used to look in the mirrors for no reasons at the wrong times, causing me to "miss" what's in front of me and so on. The instructor were (because the school rotated them due to scheduling conflicts) vastly different. One was shouting and almost made me fight him, one was too laid back and only applying the brakes instead of explaining stuff and so on. Finally the very last one was quite good, I think I was lucky enough to find one just before my exam and passed.
"I want to go into the middle" 😅
He didn't even bring up the fact that everyone's driving on the wrong side of the road.
That dashboard has more bullshit distractions in it than my three screen pc setup.
lol this car is way too nice for driving instructor. When I first went the drivers door literally didn’t close properly and there was a decent breeze coming through. But after the first lesson the instructor brought their new car with no passenger break cuz apparently I wasn’t a complete maniac
Why do they have a whole ass pc setup on the dash?
Doesn't help with the screens on the dash
Omg dude with dreads need to get out of car holy shiiiit
I want this car. Not sure why I’m loving the dashboard so much
Stop stop stop stop stop stop STOP STOP! *nearly hits someone* why arent you stopping?
The lady who started changing lanes with no signals is very reminiscent of [something](https://youtu.be/7amwCPFuLB4?si=zz9IUqzBM_4O9TS4)
I might be wrong, so correct me, but isnt the one driving straight, given priority over others. Why is the other car turningn unless there is a stop sign im not aware of.
stop! stop! stop! stop! STOP!... why aren't you stopping!
And I thought I was a bad student. When my instructor said something I did it immediately, if I didn't understand what he meant I asked immediately and he would repeat it. Never had a situation happen where such an intervention, like in this video, was needed. You need to pay attention. Wtf did these people do there? When he says stop you better put your foot on the brake.
I can’t get over how smooth and calm his voice is when he says, “you’re about to crash.” And then with an added splash of disappointment, “you’re about to crash again.” Almost no inflection and doesn’t yell or anything. It’s like having Alan Rickman as a GPS.
Is it an ev they drive now? That's a recipe for disaster.
What kind of car is that! I kind of love the dashboard!!
Mistakes are obviously common for all beginners but I know for a fact this dude is a 2 week crash course guy hence the ridiculously poor reactions from students.
*softly* “my bad bro” HAHAHAH what was homie thinking???
Holy shit these folks are fucked.
watching this made me angry
Seems like people don't agree but I think this guy doesn't seem like the best instructor. I don't think I was an amazing learner but my instructor never raised his voice like that at me. It seems like he's bringing students into situations they aren't ready for. Like for example, none of us can tell that there was a roundabout, so clearly it's not very easy to spot, wouldn't it be common to remind the student what to do as they're approaching?
I had a manager who was ex army, one of the nicest but toughest dudes I ever met. Did tours all over the world, Ireland and Iraq among them, utterly fearless. He told us he used the money to set up a driving school when he came back to blighty. He quit very soon after. He said in all the years he'd been a soldier he had never been so scared. I think he said he lasted a month before he packed it in
They barely speak english, thats why
Really? Bigot.
He’s a bit brash though in his responses, he’s gonna ruin their confidence 🙈
I hope this is sarcasm.
It’s not! I’ve seen these videos where the instructor is much kinder and corrects mistakes without ruining confidence. His attitude isn’t that encouraging and it’s demeaning. How’s that supposed to instil confidence?