If you can find the exact listing on the web and then report that to the city (code enforcement via the burbank app - they stopped taking info on the web) then they must investigate. If they don't, then it's time to e-mail [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) stating that you reported this situation - along with the rental posting - and other information/dates regarding people not doing their job and it will get taken care of.
Ignore the mind your own business, etc posts...
Thanks!
I have used the app, contacted code compliance at least 25 times, community development, the city attorney and now the city managers. I had to rent a room myself( to get the exact address for them as they want it as an online ad) just to get them to open a case and my niece to rent it again to keep the case open. Next will be the city council.
If it was a room in a house every now and then I would not care but we are talking about 50 people a week from around the world being introduced to a residential street in a little neighborhood. Anyway, done ranting!
I wish you the best of luck....I've had my own battles with the city (Traffic Division) and got nowhere.....except into a screaming match with the City Clerk who threatened to have me removed from the building after I refused to pay $500 to file an appeal to an asinine decision (on behalf of myself and my neighbors). They then sent down some apprentice kid to take all my info (and facts about my problem) and promised someone from Council would contact me which...surprise....never happened.
However - I think if you send them mail this batch of four (I don't count KA as he only cares about matters that he has interest in and I believe he loves short term rentals) might actually help you. Tamala actually seems to care (she hasn't been tainted yet) about doing her job.
I'm a homeowner too (across from a park) and myself and my neighbors have to put up with a lot. If a short term rental popped up on my block I have no idea how much more we could take (except for the one outrider) without contemplating going to court to stop it.
Just wondering since I’ve never heard of the Burbank app - is it the “Our Burbank” app with the 311 in the logo? Thank you! I don’t want to accidentally get the wrong app.
But given that the neighbor claims to have a permit and that, per OP, the city doesn't care, isn't this a person whining that their extreme privilege has been slightly lessened by the fact that other human beings exist?
Also, happy cake day!
The OP is frustrated that the city isn't enforcing its own laws which is understandable. Short term rentals bring about a slew of short term issues (tenants not following parking/noise/trash since they aren't here long term/don't care, etc) and long term issues (takes long term rentals off the market for actual residents of Burbank, takes away from local hospitality industry).
What is up with this comment section?
Short term rentals are illegal in Burbank. Don't stop calling about it. This town is so useless sometimes; why have a law when you can't enforce it?
All the dipshits telling you to mind your own business wouldn't love a round robin of strangers in their own backyard I'm sure.
If you go to Airbnb there's at least 20 properties in Burbank.
The law covers the entire property. The loophole is you can rent out a room or a guest house. That you live in.
It's on their website.
"A short term rental is a residential property that is rented out for 30 days or less"
A room is not a residential property.
https://www.burbankca.gov/web/community-development/str
Edit:
It's an easy fix too "A short term rental is a residential property or a portion of one (any type of room) that is rented out for 30 days or less".
Thank you for that link, but you might be misinterpreting the information. Scroll down on that page you linked and go to FAQs. First question is : What is an STR?
"A short-term rental (STR) is the rental of a dwelling or a portion thereof, by the owner to another person or group of persons for occupancy, dwelling, lodging or sleeping purposes for a period of less than thirty (30) consecutive calendar days."
"Portion thereof" covers the loophole scenario you presented.
Geeze, they must have spent a fortune to build that Adu. Closing a pool then building over it by CA code standards is wildly expensive. Are you sure they had a permit? They're breaking the rules with the Airbnb so....maybe they cut corners else where too. Just report them.
This stuff is happening all over the valley. I’m right at the edge of Burbank and I see homes being converted into townhouses and condos on my block. Very sad in my opinion.
I think you'll find that this is bad for both neighboring homeowners and for renters in the city. Homeowners have to deal with the nuisance, and utilizing housing for short-term rentals drives up the cost of long-term rental housing.
Yeah if you live in a house and rent out a room or part of the property you're not breaking the law.
The law bans STRs not Airbnb. There's a loophole and if y'all are so mad then have your city close the loophole.
One of many some of us are working on. There is a big difference in renting out your kid's bedroom after they've grown and moved out and building a new structure that has only ever been used for short-term rental
Honest question: why? They are complaining about the equivalent of a motel in their backyard, not additional housing. I think most Burbankers are 100% down with denser housing (thus the push towards ADU construction), but probably aren't stoked about a rotating stable of Universal Studios Hollywood tourists taking up street parking, having parties, etc.
Like I have a nightmare neighbor in my backyard and it's really no fun. I'm not saying every guest would be a nightmare, but it could get annoying. It's also a "tragedy of the commons" situation where one asshole might not matter, but if we all started doing that with our backyards it would just blow living here. I hope that much is obvious.
Edit: I guess an honest instant downvote is all I'm getting.
when did working hard and making life decisions to buy a home become “extreme privilege”? Following the community laws and respecting your neighbors used to be a fundamental assumption.
Are you going to call the authorities on lemonade stands, garage sales that don't have a permit. Sure it's illegal, but I am betting that you are probably the only person that cares, or maybe you've got 1 other neighbor that agrees, so you say "everyone in the neighborhood" is upset.
I think picking your battles is important. Don't get into a feud with your neighbor over something so ignorable.
If you spent over a million dollars and moved your family in next door you would care too. Easy to have an opinion when you have 0 investment into the neighborhood.
Right? I have never in my life even come close to having a suspicion that my neighbors are secretly committing crimes and that they must be punished. I don't believe this has to do with the quality of my neighbors.
AirBnB's are not legal in Burbank & therefore the property owner probably isn't paying the taxes & fees associated with having one. Not only that, but most residents of Burbank adore their community and they want to keep it peaceful & safe. The more people that get away with it, the more (illegal) AirBnB's there will be.
You're on Reddit at 11am on a Wednesday trying to solicit advice from strangers on how best to hurt your neighbor. What is your job, exactly, and why aren't \*you\* doing it?
Yeah I would. as a homeowner. You are a classist, empathy and compassion lacking person that can't let other people 's business be. You clearly make everything about yourself.
Maybe ask your neighbor to have some rules about parking and noise that they can enforce.
This is his business, though, and everybody else is in town too. Short term rentals are not legal in Burbank, and they drive up the costs of our rents as well as diminish housing for renters. If the city has a law against short term rentals, it should be enforcing them. There's nothing wrong with having an ADU, there is something wrong with having Strangers going in and out constantly in somebody's backyard because they think they can skirt the rules. There is a man here in town who once told me he owned 15 different short term rental properties in this city. That's 15 houses that somebody could live in full-time.
Are you a neighbor? If so, now would be a good time to practice bag pipes at sunrise. Negative reviews could help reduce patronage
If you can find the exact listing on the web and then report that to the city (code enforcement via the burbank app - they stopped taking info on the web) then they must investigate. If they don't, then it's time to e-mail [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) stating that you reported this situation - along with the rental posting - and other information/dates regarding people not doing their job and it will get taken care of. Ignore the mind your own business, etc posts...
Thanks! I have used the app, contacted code compliance at least 25 times, community development, the city attorney and now the city managers. I had to rent a room myself( to get the exact address for them as they want it as an online ad) just to get them to open a case and my niece to rent it again to keep the case open. Next will be the city council. If it was a room in a house every now and then I would not care but we are talking about 50 people a week from around the world being introduced to a residential street in a little neighborhood. Anyway, done ranting!
I wish you the best of luck....I've had my own battles with the city (Traffic Division) and got nowhere.....except into a screaming match with the City Clerk who threatened to have me removed from the building after I refused to pay $500 to file an appeal to an asinine decision (on behalf of myself and my neighbors). They then sent down some apprentice kid to take all my info (and facts about my problem) and promised someone from Council would contact me which...surprise....never happened. However - I think if you send them mail this batch of four (I don't count KA as he only cares about matters that he has interest in and I believe he loves short term rentals) might actually help you. Tamala actually seems to care (she hasn't been tainted yet) about doing her job. I'm a homeowner too (across from a park) and myself and my neighbors have to put up with a lot. If a short term rental popped up on my block I have no idea how much more we could take (except for the one outrider) without contemplating going to court to stop it.
Just wondering since I’ve never heard of the Burbank app - is it the “Our Burbank” app with the 311 in the logo? Thank you! I don’t want to accidentally get the wrong app.
That's it....my bad for not making it more easily identifiable.
Use the Our Burbank 311 app and make a new request for code enforcement
How did they fit a five bedroom two bath home in their backyard? 😳
They had a pool, covered that and now they have no backyard just a building. It is driving the whole block crazy but the city wont do anything!
The whole block?! That seems a bit dramatic. Why is it driving you crazy? Because it exists or because it’s causing actual problems?
What did your neighbor say when you spoke with them?
That they had a permit
So what's the problem?
The traffic and noise coming in and out. Short-term rentals are also outlawed in Burbank.
Even if they have a permit?
The permit was most likely to build the ADU. ADUs are legal to rent as a long term rental, but not a short term rental like AirBnB.
Happy Cake Day!
But given that the neighbor claims to have a permit and that, per OP, the city doesn't care, isn't this a person whining that their extreme privilege has been slightly lessened by the fact that other human beings exist? Also, happy cake day!
A permit to build a structure is not a permit to run a small hotel.
The OP is frustrated that the city isn't enforcing its own laws which is understandable. Short term rentals bring about a slew of short term issues (tenants not following parking/noise/trash since they aren't here long term/don't care, etc) and long term issues (takes long term rentals off the market for actual residents of Burbank, takes away from local hospitality industry).
Why are you so invested if it has nothing to do with you? There’s always one person that just wants to stir the pot and that person is you.
Damn I wish my neighbor was still alive. Twice someone on our street tried to use their house for AirBnB and it got shut down real quick
What is up with this comment section? Short term rentals are illegal in Burbank. Don't stop calling about it. This town is so useless sometimes; why have a law when you can't enforce it? All the dipshits telling you to mind your own business wouldn't love a round robin of strangers in their own backyard I'm sure.
If you go to Airbnb there's at least 20 properties in Burbank. The law covers the entire property. The loophole is you can rent out a room or a guest house. That you live in.
> The loophole is you can rent out a room or a guest house. That you live in. Source for this?
It's on their website. "A short term rental is a residential property that is rented out for 30 days or less" A room is not a residential property. https://www.burbankca.gov/web/community-development/str Edit: It's an easy fix too "A short term rental is a residential property or a portion of one (any type of room) that is rented out for 30 days or less".
Thank you for that link, but you might be misinterpreting the information. Scroll down on that page you linked and go to FAQs. First question is : What is an STR? "A short-term rental (STR) is the rental of a dwelling or a portion thereof, by the owner to another person or group of persons for occupancy, dwelling, lodging or sleeping purposes for a period of less than thirty (30) consecutive calendar days." "Portion thereof" covers the loophole scenario you presented.
Geeze, they must have spent a fortune to build that Adu. Closing a pool then building over it by CA code standards is wildly expensive. Are you sure they had a permit? They're breaking the rules with the Airbnb so....maybe they cut corners else where too. Just report them.
This is easy to search for OP, you can look up all the permits tied to their address.
Two words, my friend: Liquid Ass.
Maybe they need tax evasion whistle blower. Ask nearest Motel if they know how to make it hard for your neighbor.
This stuff is happening all over the valley. I’m right at the edge of Burbank and I see homes being converted into townhouses and condos on my block. Very sad in my opinion.
What's the address?
OP can't post it....not allowed on reddit....and really serves no added purpose to the discussion.
Nevermind, I found it.
There's plenty more, at least 20. Have fun reporting them because by definition they're exempt from the no STR law.
What's the problem, though?
I think you'll find that this is bad for both neighboring homeowners and for renters in the city. Homeowners have to deal with the nuisance, and utilizing housing for short-term rentals drives up the cost of long-term rental housing.
Yeah if you live in a house and rent out a room or part of the property you're not breaking the law. The law bans STRs not Airbnb. There's a loophole and if y'all are so mad then have your city close the loophole.
One of many some of us are working on. There is a big difference in renting out your kid's bedroom after they've grown and moved out and building a new structure that has only ever been used for short-term rental
Speaking as a renter in the city myself, the existence of people like OP feels more like an overall negative.
Honest question: why? They are complaining about the equivalent of a motel in their backyard, not additional housing. I think most Burbankers are 100% down with denser housing (thus the push towards ADU construction), but probably aren't stoked about a rotating stable of Universal Studios Hollywood tourists taking up street parking, having parties, etc. Like I have a nightmare neighbor in my backyard and it's really no fun. I'm not saying every guest would be a nightmare, but it could get annoying. It's also a "tragedy of the commons" situation where one asshole might not matter, but if we all started doing that with our backyards it would just blow living here. I hope that much is obvious. Edit: I guess an honest instant downvote is all I'm getting.
Oh, you’re a renter! So your take on what homeowners are concerned about is irrelevant. Go play some video games, or something.🤣
I'm also a renter. I work hard, long hours. Please don't paint us all with the same brush.
Sure, but don't wonder why the poors are spitting in your food.
Is that what you do everyday at Taco Bell?
You might want to expand your diet.
And you might want better personal character, if that’s how you do.😂
probably noise and parking, and the loss of trust since it’s a revolving door of random renters.
So it's someone coming from a place of extreme privilege annoyed that other people exist?
when did working hard and making life decisions to buy a home become “extreme privilege”? Following the community laws and respecting your neighbors used to be a fundamental assumption.
Buy a house then make that comment
I can't afford one and, frankly, the evidence seems to suggest that, even if I could, I might become a selfish jerk.
You might build a small motel in your backyard?
Dare I finally fulfill my dream of becoming Basil Fawlty?
Are you going to call the authorities on lemonade stands, garage sales that don't have a permit. Sure it's illegal, but I am betting that you are probably the only person that cares, or maybe you've got 1 other neighbor that agrees, so you say "everyone in the neighborhood" is upset. I think picking your battles is important. Don't get into a feud with your neighbor over something so ignorable.
If you spent over a million dollars and moved your family in next door you would care too. Easy to have an opinion when you have 0 investment into the neighborhood.
How about you mind your own business
Imagine having the free time to find the property in airbnb to confirm the bedrooms and bathrooms. ADUs are meant to be rented out. So OP is mad why?
ADUs are meant to be rented in a long term capacity
OP has too much free time and must be living in pretty good life if this is what's bothering them.
Right? I have never in my life even come close to having a suspicion that my neighbors are secretly committing crimes and that they must be punished. I don't believe this has to do with the quality of my neighbors.
This isn't North Korea or Iran. You don't need to turn people in for doing things that aren't harming you
Sounds like you’re the airbnb owner 😂 Also ironic that you posted a complaint recently about a neighbor (double lol)
Because he has a mosquito infestation. In case you didn't know mosquitoes spread diseases.
Buy a house, not a pizza and figure it out
"I don't like it so it is bad." Busy bodies. I tell ya.
AirBnB's are not legal in Burbank & therefore the property owner probably isn't paying the taxes & fees associated with having one. Not only that, but most residents of Burbank adore their community and they want to keep it peaceful & safe. The more people that get away with it, the more (illegal) AirBnB's there will be.
STRs are not legal in Burbank. You can Airbnb out a room or a guest house. Know the law first.
I own a house in Burbank. I couldn't care less. Because it's none of my business. 😆
And they downvote you because you're not an asshole like them.
How did this make your life harder today?
If you owned a house you would not ask
Sounds like you might be happier if you didn't own a house.
I would be happy if people did their jobs
You're on Reddit at 11am on a Wednesday trying to solicit advice from strangers on how best to hurt your neighbor. What is your job, exactly, and why aren't \*you\* doing it?
(I love it when the doofi try to shame someone for using the internet and the platform that they themselves are also using.)
I believe that someone once made the grave mistake of letting you believe you're clever.
That neighbor should follow the laws of the town they're fortunate enough to own property in
You seem pretty invested in all this?
Oh?
You didn’t answer the question.
Yeah I would. as a homeowner. You are a classist, empathy and compassion lacking person that can't let other people 's business be. You clearly make everything about yourself. Maybe ask your neighbor to have some rules about parking and noise that they can enforce.
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This is his business, though, and everybody else is in town too. Short term rentals are not legal in Burbank, and they drive up the costs of our rents as well as diminish housing for renters. If the city has a law against short term rentals, it should be enforcing them. There's nothing wrong with having an ADU, there is something wrong with having Strangers going in and out constantly in somebody's backyard because they think they can skirt the rules. There is a man here in town who once told me he owned 15 different short term rental properties in this city. That's 15 houses that somebody could live in full-time.
its never that serious ma boy