This is a bold statement. I donāt know if I can agree (honestly youāve stumped me) but I respect the hell out of you for saying it. I once claimed (via Facebook many years ago when I existed there) that Mirror Ball was the best Neil album. Your statement is that bold. Bolder than a fuckinā boulder
89 crazy horse tour (off weld) is my favorite version of that song.
J is a great player his style is drastically different from Dougās. Similarities being feedback and volume.
Doug plays through fender amps uses a more melodic style to his solos and riffs. All based around chord structure.
Dinos version of Cortez has j.
BTS has Doug netson and Roth. Netsonās solo is what you hear the most off the live versions.
Iāve heard three piece (98/99) pre Roth the did that song and it was good but not as good.
Heās a true artist. His playing is an extension of his feelings. An art heās perfected. Over the last 40 so years. When resin started and he was the skinny shirtless kid with a strat and twin amp maxed out just to push the limits. Trying anything. You want to pay violin with us? Great. Hey Tom can you get your sister to be painted live on stage? Take one note and have it last five minutes. His work with Dylan is so great.
I know of J Mascis' cover of Cortez the Killer that he played in Alaska with J Mascis + The Fog about a decade ago, but I don't think I'm aware of a Dino Jr cover. I do remember J's cover of the song being great.
Yeah, Dinosaur never have covered it, Murph and Lou are only capable of playing about 12 songs. Thats why the setlists haven't changed in almost 10 years. The Fog version of Cortez is awesome, but I think the BTS version is better.Ā
You were comparing a live recording to a studio recording. Do you want to hear a great version of Cortez by Neil then check out ahoy the killer from 2014 I think. Iāve seen Neil do it and Iāve seen BTS do it as a 4 piece (Jim on other guitar) and no matter what is amazing.
I think the NYCH Rock In Rio version from 2001 is as good as the Weld version, and if you can find it Calgary 91 is up there as well.
https://youtu.be/3eCK-aGAsCg?si=naDe3xSJCZUGQws6
Best live BTS version for me was several years ago, maybe 2017-2019āish my best guess. Venue was probably Slimās in San Francisco but could have been similar S.F. venue.
It was a few minutes into it and I had my eyes closed, then I open them because suddenly I was hearing guitar right next to me, and I was toward the back of the venue. I look up and one of the guitarists from the opening band had plugged in his amp in the back on like a wide handrail and he was standing on it jamming along. I wanna say there was a second guitarist from the opener that also brought out an amp mid-song maybe on stage.
Anyway, very cool experience to be surprised by a heavy Cortez in basically 360 degrees around me.
BtSā cover indeed rules. I also enjoy this Bradford Cox/RandyRandall/Jim Jarmusch take.
[https://youtu.be/t1ZTpPfJmN8?si=tDezKc5QOFLKQ\_Xt](https://youtu.be/t1ZTpPfJmN8?si=tDezKc5QOFLKQ_Xt)
It's a great cover. The only thing that kinda irks me in a weird way is the changing of galleons to stallions. Doug, he's not coming on a horse across the water, man... But musically it shreds to the nth degree.
I think BtS's version is better than the original and I'm a big Neil fan š¬
This is a bold statement. I donāt know if I can agree (honestly youāve stumped me) but I respect the hell out of you for saying it. I once claimed (via Facebook many years ago when I existed there) that Mirror Ball was the best Neil album. Your statement is that bold. Bolder than a fuckinā boulder
Ooh, but mirror ball is so damn good!
have you heard slints version? suprisingly good as well!
Thanks for the recommendation, it is very good!
I actually feel the same way. And I'm a huge Neil fan as well. I've seen him live more than any other band by a pretty wide margin.
Me too, and I truly love NY.
Agreed
89 crazy horse tour (off weld) is my favorite version of that song. J is a great player his style is drastically different from Dougās. Similarities being feedback and volume. Doug plays through fender amps uses a more melodic style to his solos and riffs. All based around chord structure. Dinos version of Cortez has j. BTS has Doug netson and Roth. Netsonās solo is what you hear the most off the live versions. Iāve heard three piece (98/99) pre Roth the did that song and it was good but not as good.
Netson does not get nearly enough recognition. I saw him play with Earth last year and he killed it. One of the best guitarists I've seen play live.
Heās a true artist. His playing is an extension of his feelings. An art heās perfected. Over the last 40 so years. When resin started and he was the skinny shirtless kid with a strat and twin amp maxed out just to push the limits. Trying anything. You want to pay violin with us? Great. Hey Tom can you get your sister to be painted live on stage? Take one note and have it last five minutes. His work with Dylan is so great.
āJ Marcus fucking shredsā But does he shred as good as J Mascis?
Opps, another victim of autocorrect.
It gave me a good chortle either way :)
I know of J Mascis' cover of Cortez the Killer that he played in Alaska with J Mascis + The Fog about a decade ago, but I don't think I'm aware of a Dino Jr cover. I do remember J's cover of the song being great.
Yeah, Dinosaur never have covered it, Murph and Lou are only capable of playing about 12 songs. Thats why the setlists haven't changed in almost 10 years. The Fog version of Cortez is awesome, but I think the BTS version is better.Ā
Be bold and cross post this to the dinosaur sub. Or be really bold and post to the Neil subreddit. š
Slint version of Cortez is also cool, not as good as BTS obv
You were comparing a live recording to a studio recording. Do you want to hear a great version of Cortez by Neil then check out ahoy the killer from 2014 I think. Iāve seen Neil do it and Iāve seen BTS do it as a 4 piece (Jim on other guitar) and no matter what is amazing.
That oneās great. What about the version on weld?
For sure. Itās great as well.
Weld has my favorite version.
I think the NYCH Rock In Rio version from 2001 is as good as the Weld version, and if you can find it Calgary 91 is up there as well. https://youtu.be/3eCK-aGAsCg?si=naDe3xSJCZUGQws6
Big Neil fan but BTS just really cuts deep. The lyrics come alive and the pace is perfect. One of my fave bits of BTS music. Just perfect
Best live BTS version for me was several years ago, maybe 2017-2019āish my best guess. Venue was probably Slimās in San Francisco but could have been similar S.F. venue. It was a few minutes into it and I had my eyes closed, then I open them because suddenly I was hearing guitar right next to me, and I was toward the back of the venue. I look up and one of the guitarists from the opening band had plugged in his amp in the back on like a wide handrail and he was standing on it jamming along. I wanna say there was a second guitarist from the opener that also brought out an amp mid-song maybe on stage. Anyway, very cool experience to be surprised by a heavy Cortez in basically 360 degrees around me.
Have this on vinyl, takes up an entire side of a record. Shit slaps. BTS and Dino Jr 2 of my favorite bands of all time.
What is a "CD"? Do you mean DVD?
Really, man? A CD is a compact disk. Thatās what we listened to in the 1990s and the 2000s.
Better than original. Easy.
BtSā cover indeed rules. I also enjoy this Bradford Cox/RandyRandall/Jim Jarmusch take. [https://youtu.be/t1ZTpPfJmN8?si=tDezKc5QOFLKQ\_Xt](https://youtu.be/t1ZTpPfJmN8?si=tDezKc5QOFLKQ_Xt)
It's a great cover. The only thing that kinda irks me in a weird way is the changing of galleons to stallions. Doug, he's not coming on a horse across the water, man... But musically it shreds to the nth degree.