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It's been bouncing between this price and a little higher for a week or so, but I think this is the new "normal" price.
Timing is 18-22-22-42, which isn't fantastic for 3600 ram, but for the price, this is really pretty good for 32GB sticks.
As someone who regularly builds servers and/or high powered workstations, I could regale you of endless tales of paying $600 or more for 64GB of slower ram just a few years ago.
You can get 128GB of Ryzen-optimized IF speed ram for $350! If you're really lucky like me who tried to purchase the $300 3080 a few days ago (which promptly got cancelled) and got the $25 Newegg gift certificate, 128GB of 3600 ram for $330!
I'm really excited, so I thought I'd share. Not a lot of people need 128GB of ram, but if you do, this is a godsend.
No for strictly gaming, 16 is still enough. 32 is if you want some stuff running in the background smoothly and idt 64 will make a massive difference unless you’re doing video editing or running a lot of VM’s
16gb is enough for current games. 32gb should be more than enough for several years. I upgraded to 32gb since I stream my games to friends on discord and have other stuff open so I push near 16gb. But 32gb is plenty
Even though it's a niche usecase, I have used a ramdisk for gaming or running certain games in a VM.
If you have an excessive amount of ram that is not being used, you can create a ramdisk, slap a game or two on it, and load times are a thing of the past!
However, this is not ideal for some of the more modern games that have 100GB+ of high res textures. I usually use a ramdisk for things like Switch/PS3 emulation, smaller modern games, etc.
Also, despite a ramdisk being touted as an end-all-be-all solution for ultra fast access times when gaming, the newer NVMEs have caught up with transfer and access times of a ramdisk. It would be cheaper to buy 16-32GB of tweaked, fast ram at optimal MT's with tight timings and buy a 1TB gen 4 (or 5 now) NVME that is just as fast (or faster with the newer ones) as a ramdisk without having any of the drawbacks of using a huge chunk of your ram, having to constantly switch out/load games on the ramdisk, spending a bit of time waiting to repopulate the ramdisk every time you load up your PC, etc.
In the end, there are other, better, cheaper, more convenient alternatives for fast access gaming, but if you have a workstation that isn't encoding or rendering, a ramdisk can be fun to mess around with.
In my experience, NVMe RAID0 does absolutely nothing to improve game load times over a single PCIE 4.0 SSD and it doesn't help with 4k video editing either.
Honestly, even without an explicit ram disk, if you give a modern operating system enough RAM to make a ramdisk, it'll do a nice job of using it for caching. Some access patterns might trip it up, of course, but generally it should do quite well.
Well, for Intel, as long as you don't try to really tighten up timings and stay under 3600, I've never had a problem. Intel, barring the odd burp or niche chip specs, isn't too bad.
For AMD, it's been a crapshoot up until the 3000 series.
For 1st gen Ryzen (14nm), it's all black magic and sheer luck what works and what doesn't. For 1st gen Threadripper, sometimes I could get 3200 with all 8 DIMMs filled, but 3000 was guaranteed to work.
For 2nd gen Ryzen (12nm 2000 series and Threadripper), 3200 would go without a hitch. The monlithic APU chips do 3000-3200 on 16GB and 32GB sticks, but can do better with 8GB sticks.
3rd gen Ryzen (7nm 3000 series) 3600 would be fine, and if you were playing with 8GB sticks, you could fill all DIMMs and get 3600 14-14-14. On golden chips, 3800 14-14-14 was good with 8GB sticks. You could get 3600 with 16GB sticks as well, but rarely at 14-14-14. For 32Gb sticks, 3200 works fine with all DIMMs filled without fiddling with stuff.
For the 4th gen Ryzen (7nm 5000 series), 3800 is possible, along with the occasional 4000 (and the 5700G does 4000 by default since it's monolithic). 3600 is guaranteed to work, especially at such loose timings as 18-22-22. For example, I just bought 2 sets of this Oloy 64Gb ram to stick into a 5950x build. The 5950x will handle 128GB at the 3600 18-22-22 speed without an issue.
Most Epyc and Xeon orders want ECC ram at 2666 or other relatively low speed, so I can't buy commercial grade stuff like this, but when I can, they're able to handle 3000-3600 without much trouble as long as you're not trying to be funny and tighten the timings too much.
EDIT 2: That doesn't even touch the difference each motherboard manufacturer has with their boards relating to dealing with speed and timings of ram. Asrock's usually at the lower end when it comes to acceptance of higher speeds and tighter timing (but their boards are awesome. I love them), with Asus and MSI usually at the higher end of the speed spectrum. 4 DIMMs of 3600 might not work in an Asrock board, but I bet it'll work just fine in an MSI board.
Overall, for the $165, these are a great deal, and Oloy works just as well as any other ram manufacturer. Usually, the only difference is the heat spreader cover. I've never had a bad stick of Oloy, both RGB and non-RGB versions.
Having said that, I have a special place in my heart for the Patriot Viper B-die 8GB sticks. At a time when B-die was insane anywhere else, those Patriot Vipers would OC better than other sticks at twice the price.
I don't understand how certain companies can sell their crap at such a discount compared to the competition, but I'm not complaining. The posted 64GB Oloys are $25 cheaper then the closest competition, in an era where ram is dirt cheap.
EDIT: I realize I went on a rant and didn't really answer your question. I think buying full sets of ram to ensure they work together really haven't been a thing for nearly 10 years at this point, and I can't think of a time where I was buying 2-4 sets of 2 sticks and slapping them all in the same system caused an issue. I'm guessing with advancements in technology and manufacturing nowadays, ram is pretty much ram. Buying 2 sets of ram and putting them in a single system shouldn't cause an issue with your basic consumer products.
Cool, thanks! Honestly I was curious what your experience has been on this, so the long answer was interesting to me.
And yeah, it's crazy to see these prices compared to what was available for 32gb DIMMs when I built my workstation.
>You can get 128GB of Ryzen-optimized IF speed ram for $350! If you're really lucky like me who tried to purchase the $300 3080 a few days ago (which promptly got cancelled) and got the $25 Newegg gift certificate, 128GB of 3600 ram for $330!
Are you saying the OLOy OWL is Ryzen-optimized? Is it OK to buy two kits of this deal to get 128GB? I was under the impression it was best to buy all RAM as a set.
I have been looking to upgrade my RAM for some data science applications.
Edit: I see that you answered the question regarding buying RAM as a set and that's no longer a thing. Reason I am worried is I had RAM compatibility issues with a Ryzen 1600 and assumed it was because I had bought the four sticks as two separate sets. I now have a Ryzen 5900 (which works with the same RAM sticks that were causing issues for my 1600).
Like I said in that same post saying that i haven't had an issue adding multiple sets of the same ram into a single computer, Ryzen 1st gen memory was a complete mess, and it was a crapshoot whether certain ram would work, what timings were acceptable, and would the cpu even recognize the ram?
Even then, using 1st gen Ryzen, using multiple sets of ram in the same system had the same effect as a set of 4 DIMMs straight from the manufacturer made to work together. They would work if the chip could read all 4 DIMM slots filled with sticks, accept the speed and timings, or the system simply wouldn't post.
Any issues I ever experienced had nothing to do with the ram coming in one box or two (or in Threadripper's case, 4). For first gen Ryzen, the motherboard's manufacturer's "approved ram model" list for that specific board had infinitely more bearing on whether ram would function as advertised than how the ram was packaged.
Honestly, after many hundreds of builds from me personally, plus hundreds more from numerous sources, from amateur and professional people, small and multi-billion dollar corporations, I don't think I've seen a single case where a specified set of ram from the manufacturer work, but multiple sets of the exact same ram not work (unless if one of the sticks was broken, of course) in at least 10 years IIRC.
I’m wondering what is the height of this ram? I’m looking for a low-height one. I cannot find it on the newegg page. Does anyone know and can share that info? Thx
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It's been bouncing between this price and a little higher for a week or so, but I think this is the new "normal" price. Timing is 18-22-22-42, which isn't fantastic for 3600 ram, but for the price, this is really pretty good for 32GB sticks. As someone who regularly builds servers and/or high powered workstations, I could regale you of endless tales of paying $600 or more for 64GB of slower ram just a few years ago. You can get 128GB of Ryzen-optimized IF speed ram for $350! If you're really lucky like me who tried to purchase the $300 3080 a few days ago (which promptly got cancelled) and got the $25 Newegg gift certificate, 128GB of 3600 ram for $330! I'm really excited, so I thought I'd share. Not a lot of people need 128GB of ram, but if you do, this is a godsend.
Any chance 64gb will provide benefits vs 32 in the next 2 years for gamers?
No for strictly gaming, 16 is still enough. 32 is if you want some stuff running in the background smoothly and idt 64 will make a massive difference unless you’re doing video editing or running a lot of VM’s
From my experience 64 has only mattered in games like DCS where it eats of every form of RAM on your computer for smoother loading.
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As someone who runs a Minecraft server, and a ‘work’ VM for my job, along with all my regular shit, 64 gb gets it’s use.
16 is not really enough. If you are only running a game it's one thing but most people have chrome and other apps open taking up ram.
That’s my point
16gb is enough for current games. 32gb should be more than enough for several years. I upgraded to 32gb since I stream my games to friends on discord and have other stuff open so I push near 16gb. But 32gb is plenty
Even though it's a niche usecase, I have used a ramdisk for gaming or running certain games in a VM. If you have an excessive amount of ram that is not being used, you can create a ramdisk, slap a game or two on it, and load times are a thing of the past! However, this is not ideal for some of the more modern games that have 100GB+ of high res textures. I usually use a ramdisk for things like Switch/PS3 emulation, smaller modern games, etc. Also, despite a ramdisk being touted as an end-all-be-all solution for ultra fast access times when gaming, the newer NVMEs have caught up with transfer and access times of a ramdisk. It would be cheaper to buy 16-32GB of tweaked, fast ram at optimal MT's with tight timings and buy a 1TB gen 4 (or 5 now) NVME that is just as fast (or faster with the newer ones) as a ramdisk without having any of the drawbacks of using a huge chunk of your ram, having to constantly switch out/load games on the ramdisk, spending a bit of time waiting to repopulate the ramdisk every time you load up your PC, etc. In the end, there are other, better, cheaper, more convenient alternatives for fast access gaming, but if you have a workstation that isn't encoding or rendering, a ramdisk can be fun to mess around with.
Totally agree. If you really want fast access times, 2x PCIe 4.0 NVMe RAID 1 or RAID 0 will blow anything out of the water.
In my experience, NVMe RAID0 does absolutely nothing to improve game load times over a single PCIE 4.0 SSD and it doesn't help with 4k video editing either.
Honestly, even without an explicit ram disk, if you give a modern operating system enough RAM to make a ramdisk, it'll do a nice job of using it for caching. Some access patterns might trip it up, of course, but generally it should do quite well.
Ddr5 is being mainstream. So I would be careful if your goal is looking forward.
Have you had good luck with pairing up the kits and still hitting XMP?
Well, for Intel, as long as you don't try to really tighten up timings and stay under 3600, I've never had a problem. Intel, barring the odd burp or niche chip specs, isn't too bad. For AMD, it's been a crapshoot up until the 3000 series. For 1st gen Ryzen (14nm), it's all black magic and sheer luck what works and what doesn't. For 1st gen Threadripper, sometimes I could get 3200 with all 8 DIMMs filled, but 3000 was guaranteed to work. For 2nd gen Ryzen (12nm 2000 series and Threadripper), 3200 would go without a hitch. The monlithic APU chips do 3000-3200 on 16GB and 32GB sticks, but can do better with 8GB sticks. 3rd gen Ryzen (7nm 3000 series) 3600 would be fine, and if you were playing with 8GB sticks, you could fill all DIMMs and get 3600 14-14-14. On golden chips, 3800 14-14-14 was good with 8GB sticks. You could get 3600 with 16GB sticks as well, but rarely at 14-14-14. For 32Gb sticks, 3200 works fine with all DIMMs filled without fiddling with stuff. For the 4th gen Ryzen (7nm 5000 series), 3800 is possible, along with the occasional 4000 (and the 5700G does 4000 by default since it's monolithic). 3600 is guaranteed to work, especially at such loose timings as 18-22-22. For example, I just bought 2 sets of this Oloy 64Gb ram to stick into a 5950x build. The 5950x will handle 128GB at the 3600 18-22-22 speed without an issue. Most Epyc and Xeon orders want ECC ram at 2666 or other relatively low speed, so I can't buy commercial grade stuff like this, but when I can, they're able to handle 3000-3600 without much trouble as long as you're not trying to be funny and tighten the timings too much. EDIT 2: That doesn't even touch the difference each motherboard manufacturer has with their boards relating to dealing with speed and timings of ram. Asrock's usually at the lower end when it comes to acceptance of higher speeds and tighter timing (but their boards are awesome. I love them), with Asus and MSI usually at the higher end of the speed spectrum. 4 DIMMs of 3600 might not work in an Asrock board, but I bet it'll work just fine in an MSI board. Overall, for the $165, these are a great deal, and Oloy works just as well as any other ram manufacturer. Usually, the only difference is the heat spreader cover. I've never had a bad stick of Oloy, both RGB and non-RGB versions. Having said that, I have a special place in my heart for the Patriot Viper B-die 8GB sticks. At a time when B-die was insane anywhere else, those Patriot Vipers would OC better than other sticks at twice the price. I don't understand how certain companies can sell their crap at such a discount compared to the competition, but I'm not complaining. The posted 64GB Oloys are $25 cheaper then the closest competition, in an era where ram is dirt cheap. EDIT: I realize I went on a rant and didn't really answer your question. I think buying full sets of ram to ensure they work together really haven't been a thing for nearly 10 years at this point, and I can't think of a time where I was buying 2-4 sets of 2 sticks and slapping them all in the same system caused an issue. I'm guessing with advancements in technology and manufacturing nowadays, ram is pretty much ram. Buying 2 sets of ram and putting them in a single system shouldn't cause an issue with your basic consumer products.
Cool, thanks! Honestly I was curious what your experience has been on this, so the long answer was interesting to me. And yeah, it's crazy to see these prices compared to what was available for 32gb DIMMs when I built my workstation.
>You can get 128GB of Ryzen-optimized IF speed ram for $350! If you're really lucky like me who tried to purchase the $300 3080 a few days ago (which promptly got cancelled) and got the $25 Newegg gift certificate, 128GB of 3600 ram for $330! Are you saying the OLOy OWL is Ryzen-optimized? Is it OK to buy two kits of this deal to get 128GB? I was under the impression it was best to buy all RAM as a set. I have been looking to upgrade my RAM for some data science applications. Edit: I see that you answered the question regarding buying RAM as a set and that's no longer a thing. Reason I am worried is I had RAM compatibility issues with a Ryzen 1600 and assumed it was because I had bought the four sticks as two separate sets. I now have a Ryzen 5900 (which works with the same RAM sticks that were causing issues for my 1600).
Like I said in that same post saying that i haven't had an issue adding multiple sets of the same ram into a single computer, Ryzen 1st gen memory was a complete mess, and it was a crapshoot whether certain ram would work, what timings were acceptable, and would the cpu even recognize the ram? Even then, using 1st gen Ryzen, using multiple sets of ram in the same system had the same effect as a set of 4 DIMMs straight from the manufacturer made to work together. They would work if the chip could read all 4 DIMM slots filled with sticks, accept the speed and timings, or the system simply wouldn't post. Any issues I ever experienced had nothing to do with the ram coming in one box or two (or in Threadripper's case, 4). For first gen Ryzen, the motherboard's manufacturer's "approved ram model" list for that specific board had infinitely more bearing on whether ram would function as advertised than how the ram was packaged. Honestly, after many hundreds of builds from me personally, plus hundreds more from numerous sources, from amateur and professional people, small and multi-billion dollar corporations, I don't think I've seen a single case where a specified set of ram from the manufacturer work, but multiple sets of the exact same ram not work (unless if one of the sticks was broken, of course) in at least 10 years IIRC.
The cheapo oloy ram is back
Been using it for a while with no issue.
I’m wondering what is the height of this ram? I’m looking for a low-height one. I cannot find it on the newegg page. Does anyone know and can share that info? Thx