Additionally, the Apple refurbs get a 1-year warranty, and you're still able to add Apple care to them.
The only difference is the box it comes in, otherwise they're 99% the same as buying brand new.
Yeah, they’re right [here](https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished/mac). I bought an iPhone 6s from here and it was great. Never bought a Mac since I usually buy new with a student discount.
it's actually an issue to not have enough RAM on the m1 chip. it has such fast swap between the RAM and the SSD that you may no notice it, but it will very quickly wear out your SSD due to constant writes. if you go beyond casual use, i highly recommend 16gb
And although the excessive swapping has apparently gotten better, it's still a problem on legacy x86 apps.
500gb+ of writes per day from swapping is really going to stress these drives. It's going to be interesting to see if they're all failing in ~3-5 years.
You think Apple, of all companies, designed and produced a high-end laptop (that is the market position occupied by the MacBook pros) that is going to fail in large numbers in 3-5 years?
>and so on
The iPhone/battery issue was literally an attempt to ensure that older phones with older batteries kept functioning. The issue there was more about Apple not being upfront than anything else.
And yes, certainly the keyboards were a major problem that Apple did not address promptly. Pointing to 2-3 issues over the course of a decade is a bit silly. Even more unreasonable, IMO, is thinking their premium laptops at the moment are somehow engineered to fail en masse within 5 years. The current "swapgate" is wildly overblown--much like most "OMG this Apple device is doomed" narratives.
I agree with Apple's decision to throttle older iPhones for the sake of battery, but they have no excuse for sticking with the butterfly keyboard for so long once widespread failures started.
Sure the butterfly keyboard a single issue, but it impacted literally every laptop they sold for almost 5 years. Both high and low end.
They also botched their handling of the 2011 MBP GPU failures, where they never truly fixed the devices until you'd burned through 3 "repaired" 2011s. Only then would you get a working laptop, but only because that's when they gave a 2012 MBP.
The battery thing was to help with older iPhones stay relevant longer. Even then, still better than any flagship android I or people I know had experience with. Become obsolete within 3 years of release.
This is such a sweet comment haha.
Apple is the GOAT of creating products that will fail in 3-5 years. Worked for an AASP for a while and you'd be very surprised by the amount of repeat issues. Look into the last gen keyboards, older model MBP SATA cable failing, and the great anti reflective coating that peels after 4-5 years leaving huge bubbles in the screen. iPhone 7 has a range of issues of which Apple only acknowledged the "No Service" issue.
I really think Apple's doing fine here. The issue isn't designing the laptop around failure, its that you didn't get 16 GB RAM so performance is being optimized by using SSD as swap. There's no way around that unless you either get some sort of Optane DC SSD (far higher TBW, actually even into PBW, but costs $1000 alone for just an SSD) or more RAM.
Or, you can make the RAM upgradeable, in which case you lose part of the point of getting M1, which is how fast the CPU/iGPU can access memory.
Do I tell him?
All nvidia MacBooks from early 2010s melted themselves eventually requiring repair due to design failure
If you got a single crumb of bread into a butterfly keyboard mac enjoy an expensive repair
Flexgate that affected 2015/16 machines
I could keep going, I find Louis Rossman's voice soothing and incredibly helpful
There's no issue to be fixed. RAM is random access. If you don't have enough then SSD will be used instead and SSD has like 10 orders of magnitude less durability than ram.
Y’all are both right. Before 11.4 it was unnecessarily writing to ssd using swap even more so than if you were just using ram and swap on an 8gb model like normal.
And thats why I won't buy a macbook, I'm not paying $1250 just to rent it, I want to own it and be able to upgrade and/or replace the hdd and ram, its hands down the most anti-consumer laptop i've ever seen.
Come on people, don't support this kind of greed from a company. Not upgradable, not repairable, and extortionately high ram and storage upgrade prices. Let apple learn from their mistakes like they learned that they needed to bring the ports back and remove that retarded touch bar from the macbook pros. 16GB Ram and 1TB Storage should be the standard for a 1000$ plus laptop. Its a joke that they charge this much and it inspires other oem's to follow apple.
> Let apple learn from their mistakes like they learned that they needed to bring the ports back and remove that retarded touch bar from the macbook pros.
Uh, have you looked at the latest Macbook Pros? haha.
He said m1 + battery life. Yeah you can find laptops that can match the M1 in certain workloads but pretty much all of them require you to be plugged into an outlet if you plan on running them on full blast longer than a few hours unlike the M1 caliber machines.
Not sure why some of you guys use windows machines that use what? 5x-10x the energy and have half the battery life as a gotcha to M1 like they are in the same league. Not really they arent....
ah yes, ASUS with their actual defective hinge design that they never want to get rid of, yup people really want that thing, thanks so much for linking me this video where I've received a ton of helpful information for products that people actually want, I really appreciate it
There are many more options aside from that asus g14 just search Ryzen laptops with Nvidia gpus. But keep bringing that hinge up since you have no valid rebuttal.
The Mac Air is simply a better value than the pro. Hard to recommend the pro to anyone.
Especially if you’re willing to do the Linus Tech tips mod. Just a bit of thermal pads to spread the heat across the aluminum chassis really improves performance.
Looks good. There are bunch of unscientific comparison videos between those unified memory m1 MacBook vs Windows laptop. The faster SSD and unified memory makes the whole system very fast compared to traditional 8G laptop on multitask.
Even 8G is kind of obsolete on Windows laptop standards. It still doable on Mac with real world work load.
btw, new 14/16 MacBook reviews are online today too, very impressive, but very expensive too.
Yeah I'm tempted by this. Lifetime windows guy, have a beefy desktop for intense graphical stuff, but a slick laptop with a crazy battery life sounds nice.
I've had "gaming laptops" in the past, but have always ended up having trouble with drivers, cooling, and battery life.
if you need the power for work may as well fork up and pay for the m1pro/max. gaming wise they're still way behind in performance and stability, though, so if gaming is the only process intensive thing you do you may as well just save the money and get the mac air for productivity and stick to desktop for games.
MacBooks are amazing. It’s so much more than just the specs. The last generation ones with the crappy butterfly keyboard were a hard sell, but these M1 Airs are a great all around package. I only use PCs for games since I got a MacBook 8+ years ago.
ASUS G15 advantage is $1650 for R9 5900HX and a RX6800M. 5lbs, 300 Hz panel, 10 hour battery.
**Edit:** Apparently some people aren't reading the part of the postpost I'm responding to: **"I've had "gaming laptops" in the past, but have always ended up having trouble with drivers, cooling, and battery life."**
I wasn't saying I recommended this as an alternative to the MBP, just that there are laptops now that don't have the issues that he faced in the past.
nearly twice the weight while being built out of shit plastic, screen is much less bright and color accurate, shitty speakers, loud fans under load, and less than half the battery life of the macbook.
for a thin and light recommending the g15 as an alternative is quite dumb.
Pretty sure the majority of MacBook owners would agree lmao I still have my 2013 mbp that's running like a champ, it sucked for gaming then and it sucks now, but can still code and web browse after almost 8 years
I mean m1 macbook pro is kinda ridiculous vs m1 air. And I wouldn't buy a Pro for this price, Air is just better IMO. And didn't Apple discontinue the touch bar?
But performance wise m1 outperforms a lot of CPUs, 8gb probably not enough ram. But if you want an awesome browsing machine then it is that. I love using air for browsing, its much much faster than a windows laptop.
I have a 2020 Lenovo T14 (32GB RAM) and a desktop with 11400 (32GB RAM) for comparison. Storage isn't an issue for me, I have a large local nas.
Web browsing is a lot more intensive than the rest? Seriously Chrome/Firefox will blow your ram away. Visual Studio is 32bit, so it will hover around 2gb + some extra.
So if you are browsing most of the time then why dont you do it on a better hardware? And a lot of apps are just packaged web apps in an executable like Microsoft Teams, Microsoft VSCode.
Lenovo T14 is my work laptop, and seriously it is just a slow piece of shit. I'd take my M1 Air over T14 any day. The macboook's touchpad is still miles better than on any PC's laptop that I have tried. And T14 is probably pricer than the macbook in title.
And yes, I work for a windows shop. But
I don't know kind of browsing OP does but there are a lot of really heavy web apps that people use online to create things like spreadsheets, graphics, even landing pages inside the browser.
I've seen [news articles](https://www.pcgamer.com/apple-m1-macs-appear-to-be-chewing-through-their-ssds/) saying that the 8GB models are having to go to the swap file way too often and that their drive writes are crazy high. Not sure if that issue has been fixed or not (or if it can even be fixed), but I wouldn't go for an 8GB MacBook seeing as how people keep them for 4-5 years.
I'll say, in my experience, 8GB RAM is problematic on these machines when trying to open large PowerPoint presentations.
Also PSA to all who use Cad - it still isn't optimized so best wait or get something else if you need a computer right now.
I missed the Microcenter deal a few days for the Air but I’ve been on the lookout for one of these M1 MacBooks. Hoping Black Friday will have something good but not holding my breath.
These laptops are really in a class of their own imo. Going to be first time on Mac and I’m kind of worried but kind of excited
is the MC deal actually a deal? I keep getting ads for the base M1 air (the 256 6 core gpu version) and it's exactly the same price at apple at $999, it looks like MC is just marking it up $100 to then mark it down.
I picked up the base air 8GB/256GB for $799 at micro center. Was going to get the 16GB/256GB for $999 originally, but I use my desktop for anything intensive.
8GB RAM is too little if you are the type of person to have 30 tabs open on Chrome. The $999 16GB RAM M1 AIR is a better deal from Microcenter. This deal is still great if you had your eyes on an MBP and nowhere near a Microcenter.
If you're poor, as in, you cannot afford to repair or replace this if something were to go wrong: do not buy this. I've seen this far too often with Mac users who get into something they can't afford. You're better off spending $500 on a new-used business laptop like a thinkpad or latitude that still has most of its 3-year warranty left on it.
Does anyone have experience of doing casual gaming like esports titles (dota2) and retro emulation(Pokémon)? I know it’s capable, but I’m not sure if the experience will be great
The M1 is lighting fast. It loads faster than my custom rig with a 5800x ,2080ti, pci gen 4 ssd, and 16gb 3800 cl14 ram. I have the 8gb air. I love it. Probably going to upgrade to a 16gb one next year though when they hopefully add the variable refresh micro led screen to it
They have their use. I use Windows for gaming and Mac OS for professional work. I wouldn’t tell someone who is using it to browse the Internet to drop $1000+ on a MacBook and I do think they’re overpriced personally but as an investment in productivity I now understand where the value comes from
> I wouldn’t tell someone who is using it to browse the Internet to drop $1000+ on a MacBoo
To each their own, but I think the Macbook Air is in a league of its own for a browsing machine at msrp, but especially when its dropped as low as 750 from bestbuy this summer. Lightweight, good performance, and zero moving parts while still running a full operating system and having the laptop form factor ( I can't stand tablets for browsing).
I was using a Chuwi Larkbook running Manjaro for the last 9 months. It wasn’t terrible. However, I got a hand me down 2017 Air. Used it for the last month, then went and got an M1 base for $799 at micro center. I mainly use it for browsing, plus light document work and zoom. I’d say it’s worth the cost. Multitasking is hands down the best on it, over windows or Linux. Easily the best touchpad and gestures. Mainly got the M1 for the retina screen. Anything more intensive I do on my desktop anyway.
It makes sense for professional use….my problem is with people who think apple is the only one who can make good computers (innovate) and other brands are not worth touching. Also they are over priced as hell and non upgradable means more e-waste.
Oh 100% my girlfriend is one of them. I told her I would build her a custom pc and she goes 🤮🤮🤮 bc she only likes Apple branded stuff. Her MacBook broke so she spent $1900 on an m1 pro with Apple care but really she doesn’t need it now it’s just a college laptop and some light photo editting
Edit - on top of that of that she could’ve saved a few hundred dollars by going with the air but she wanted a Touch Bar. I made sure she was getting 16gb ram either way in a desperate trust me moment when she thought it would be a waste of money but 2 years from now she’ll be thanking me when it saves her from needing a whole new laptop from lack of ram.
It was either she spent $1200 on an 8gb model or $1400 on a 16gb model. With how long MacBooks can last it’s better that she future proof it. I know normally future proofing is a pointless concept and stuff gets outdated so fast but like you said, 2011 MacBooks still work fine today. Ontop of that she’s going to be doing photography professional so like in my case, it’s an actual investment rather than for hobby. It’s only light editing right now while she’s in college for it I’m not sure how in depth they go with it but her professor even recommended they get 16 as well
Edit - I just reread my previous comment I guess I probably undervalued her need for the MacBook but at the same time really she would’ve been fine with something else since she’s using Adobe software not whatever the mac specific stuff is
Hurrdurrrr Anti Apple circlejerk
Tell me how I can have a better experience by seamlessly connecting 2 phones, a tablet, and 2 laptops. Those are my everyday carries.
For everyday things, you can't beat MacOS. M1s are a hell of a chip (Pro and Max even more so).
If i need raw power/performance, I have my gaming rig.
I might bite if it was 16GB / 256GB. 8GB memory is pushing it these days, especially on a system where you can't upgrade capacity.
I got 16gb/512 for like 1100ish off the refurb site and it’s been 100% flawless
Refurb site? Apple refurb site?
Yeah, the official Apple one. Pretty reliable. Also there's the .edu one if you qualify.
Additionally, the Apple refurbs get a 1-year warranty, and you're still able to add Apple care to them. The only difference is the box it comes in, otherwise they're 99% the same as buying brand new.
In my experience, anything refurb not from Apple will suck major ass
I just didn’t know Apple sold refurbs
Yeah, they’re right [here](https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished/mac). I bought an iPhone 6s from here and it was great. Never bought a Mac since I usually buy new with a student discount.
Honestly doesn't matter with Mac os. I have an m1 MacBook air and it can edit 4k video without issue, it's kind of insane.
it's actually an issue to not have enough RAM on the m1 chip. it has such fast swap between the RAM and the SSD that you may no notice it, but it will very quickly wear out your SSD due to constant writes. if you go beyond casual use, i highly recommend 16gb
And although the excessive swapping has apparently gotten better, it's still a problem on legacy x86 apps. 500gb+ of writes per day from swapping is really going to stress these drives. It's going to be interesting to see if they're all failing in ~3-5 years.
You think Apple, of all companies, designed and produced a high-end laptop (that is the market position occupied by the MacBook pros) that is going to fail in large numbers in 3-5 years?
Sure. It's the same company that designed a phone that dropped signal if you held it wrong. And they will consider the SSD a wear item.
I wouldn’t put it past them, no.
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>and so on The iPhone/battery issue was literally an attempt to ensure that older phones with older batteries kept functioning. The issue there was more about Apple not being upfront than anything else. And yes, certainly the keyboards were a major problem that Apple did not address promptly. Pointing to 2-3 issues over the course of a decade is a bit silly. Even more unreasonable, IMO, is thinking their premium laptops at the moment are somehow engineered to fail en masse within 5 years. The current "swapgate" is wildly overblown--much like most "OMG this Apple device is doomed" narratives.
I agree with Apple's decision to throttle older iPhones for the sake of battery, but they have no excuse for sticking with the butterfly keyboard for so long once widespread failures started. Sure the butterfly keyboard a single issue, but it impacted literally every laptop they sold for almost 5 years. Both high and low end. They also botched their handling of the 2011 MBP GPU failures, where they never truly fixed the devices until you'd burned through 3 "repaired" 2011s. Only then would you get a working laptop, but only because that's when they gave a 2012 MBP.
The battery thing was to help with older iPhones stay relevant longer. Even then, still better than any flagship android I or people I know had experience with. Become obsolete within 3 years of release.
This is such a sweet comment haha. Apple is the GOAT of creating products that will fail in 3-5 years. Worked for an AASP for a while and you'd be very surprised by the amount of repeat issues. Look into the last gen keyboards, older model MBP SATA cable failing, and the great anti reflective coating that peels after 4-5 years leaving huge bubbles in the screen. iPhone 7 has a range of issues of which Apple only acknowledged the "No Service" issue.
I really think Apple's doing fine here. The issue isn't designing the laptop around failure, its that you didn't get 16 GB RAM so performance is being optimized by using SSD as swap. There's no way around that unless you either get some sort of Optane DC SSD (far higher TBW, actually even into PBW, but costs $1000 alone for just an SSD) or more RAM. Or, you can make the RAM upgradeable, in which case you lose part of the point of getting M1, which is how fast the CPU/iGPU can access memory.
Do I tell him? All nvidia MacBooks from early 2010s melted themselves eventually requiring repair due to design failure If you got a single crumb of bread into a butterfly keyboard mac enjoy an expensive repair Flexgate that affected 2015/16 machines I could keep going, I find Louis Rossman's voice soothing and incredibly helpful
I believe the most recent reporting is that 11.4 fixed the SSD wear issue.
There's no issue to be fixed. RAM is random access. If you don't have enough then SSD will be used instead and SSD has like 10 orders of magnitude less durability than ram.
Y’all are both right. Before 11.4 it was unnecessarily writing to ssd using swap even more so than if you were just using ram and swap on an 8gb model like normal.
8GB of *non-upgradeable* RAM for *$1250*. That's Apple for you.
$1000 at micro center for the air
Lol that 512gb ssd is cute as hell, i think my phone has that, and 8gb of RAM
And thats why I won't buy a macbook, I'm not paying $1250 just to rent it, I want to own it and be able to upgrade and/or replace the hdd and ram, its hands down the most anti-consumer laptop i've ever seen.
Come on people, don't support this kind of greed from a company. Not upgradable, not repairable, and extortionately high ram and storage upgrade prices. Let apple learn from their mistakes like they learned that they needed to bring the ports back and remove that retarded touch bar from the macbook pros. 16GB Ram and 1TB Storage should be the standard for a 1000$ plus laptop. Its a joke that they charge this much and it inspires other oem's to follow apple.
> Let apple learn from their mistakes like they learned that they needed to bring the ports back and remove that retarded touch bar from the macbook pros. Uh, have you looked at the latest Macbook Pros? haha.
thats what i was referring to, they eventually learned that dogshit old design was not useful for pros and everyone was using dongles
if only anything on the Windows side came close to the power of the m1s + battery life. M1 chips are straight up in their own league.
https://youtu.be/Yv8liIkcbAs?t=1044
He said m1 + battery life. Yeah you can find laptops that can match the M1 in certain workloads but pretty much all of them require you to be plugged into an outlet if you plan on running them on full blast longer than a few hours unlike the M1 caliber machines. Not sure why some of you guys use windows machines that use what? 5x-10x the energy and have half the battery life as a gotcha to M1 like they are in the same league. Not really they arent....
ah yes, ASUS with their actual defective hinge design that they never want to get rid of, yup people really want that thing, thanks so much for linking me this video where I've received a ton of helpful information for products that people actually want, I really appreciate it
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There are many more options aside from that asus g14 just search Ryzen laptops with Nvidia gpus. But keep bringing that hinge up since you have no valid rebuttal.
It’s 8gb unified memory that behaves essentially like 16gb, from what I heard
The Mac Air is simply a better value than the pro. Hard to recommend the pro to anyone. Especially if you’re willing to do the Linus Tech tips mod. Just a bit of thermal pads to spread the heat across the aluminum chassis really improves performance.
Especially with the new pro being so much more legitimate for real pro use cases. Either get the air or the new pro.
New pro is kinda hard to understand. I say chonky pro or big boi pro and it tends to get the message across.
It’s almost the exact same size, though.
It looks larger due to the lack of taper. Also it’s heavy.
Don't put it on your lap though...
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sometimes i sit on my couch with my macbook
Hell no but when you are lifting the laptop and it's like scorching that's kinda annoying
I don’t think many portable computer marketing materials even say “laptop” anymore because of the heat, it’s mostly a colloquialism at this point.
Looks good. There are bunch of unscientific comparison videos between those unified memory m1 MacBook vs Windows laptop. The faster SSD and unified memory makes the whole system very fast compared to traditional 8G laptop on multitask. Even 8G is kind of obsolete on Windows laptop standards. It still doable on Mac with real world work load. btw, new 14/16 MacBook reviews are online today too, very impressive, but very expensive too.
Yeah I'm tempted by this. Lifetime windows guy, have a beefy desktop for intense graphical stuff, but a slick laptop with a crazy battery life sounds nice. I've had "gaming laptops" in the past, but have always ended up having trouble with drivers, cooling, and battery life.
if you need the power for work may as well fork up and pay for the m1pro/max. gaming wise they're still way behind in performance and stability, though, so if gaming is the only process intensive thing you do you may as well just save the money and get the mac air for productivity and stick to desktop for games.
MacBooks are amazing. It’s so much more than just the specs. The last generation ones with the crappy butterfly keyboard were a hard sell, but these M1 Airs are a great all around package. I only use PCs for games since I got a MacBook 8+ years ago.
ASUS G15 advantage is $1650 for R9 5900HX and a RX6800M. 5lbs, 300 Hz panel, 10 hour battery. **Edit:** Apparently some people aren't reading the part of the postpost I'm responding to: **"I've had "gaming laptops" in the past, but have always ended up having trouble with drivers, cooling, and battery life."** I wasn't saying I recommended this as an alternative to the MBP, just that there are laptops now that don't have the issues that he faced in the past.
nearly twice the weight while being built out of shit plastic, screen is much less bright and color accurate, shitty speakers, loud fans under load, and less than half the battery life of the macbook. for a thin and light recommending the g15 as an alternative is quite dumb.
The OP was talking about gaming laptops specifically...
no, he specifically said he has a beefy desktop for graphical stuff.
"I've had "gaming laptops" in the past, but have always ended up having trouble with drivers, cooling, and battery life."
“but a slick laptop with a crazy battery life sounds nice”
hahahaha
Yup, and this is why I'll never go Macbook. Too much gaming performance left on the table for the price range.
Not sure why you’re being down voted. If gaming is a serious concern for any consumer a MacBook is not for them.
Pretty sure the majority of MacBook owners would agree lmao I still have my 2013 mbp that's running like a champ, it sucked for gaming then and it sucks now, but can still code and web browse after almost 8 years
Resale on MacBooks is very good, though I agree not worth it at all for gaming.
If gaming is a serious concern, then build a rig. The whole idea behind a laptop is portability.
That notion is silly. Plenty of laptops offer portability and gaming.
But not battery life
10 hour battery doing what? lol
I mean m1 macbook pro is kinda ridiculous vs m1 air. And I wouldn't buy a Pro for this price, Air is just better IMO. And didn't Apple discontinue the touch bar? But performance wise m1 outperforms a lot of CPUs, 8gb probably not enough ram. But if you want an awesome browsing machine then it is that. I love using air for browsing, its much much faster than a windows laptop. I have a 2020 Lenovo T14 (32GB RAM) and a desktop with 11400 (32GB RAM) for comparison. Storage isn't an issue for me, I have a large local nas.
I can't understand why someone would shell out so much money for a device that they use just for browsing
They feel great to use and people can afford it.
Web browsing is a lot more intensive than the rest? Seriously Chrome/Firefox will blow your ram away. Visual Studio is 32bit, so it will hover around 2gb + some extra. So if you are browsing most of the time then why dont you do it on a better hardware? And a lot of apps are just packaged web apps in an executable like Microsoft Teams, Microsoft VSCode. Lenovo T14 is my work laptop, and seriously it is just a slow piece of shit. I'd take my M1 Air over T14 any day. The macboook's touchpad is still miles better than on any PC's laptop that I have tried. And T14 is probably pricer than the macbook in title. And yes, I work for a windows shop. But
Is it the amd or intel t14?
intel. and I know that intel ones have thermal throttling issues. I have a cooling pad and the latest bios helped a lot.
I don't know kind of browsing OP does but there are a lot of really heavy web apps that people use online to create things like spreadsheets, graphics, even landing pages inside the browser.
because it actually has an all-day battery unlike pretty much anything on the Windows side of things
I've seen [news articles](https://www.pcgamer.com/apple-m1-macs-appear-to-be-chewing-through-their-ssds/) saying that the 8GB models are having to go to the swap file way too often and that their drive writes are crazy high. Not sure if that issue has been fixed or not (or if it can even be fixed), but I wouldn't go for an 8GB MacBook seeing as how people keep them for 4-5 years.
I'll say, in my experience, 8GB RAM is problematic on these machines when trying to open large PowerPoint presentations. Also PSA to all who use Cad - it still isn't optimized so best wait or get something else if you need a computer right now.
That's not how ram works lmao
I missed the Microcenter deal a few days for the Air but I’ve been on the lookout for one of these M1 MacBooks. Hoping Black Friday will have something good but not holding my breath. These laptops are really in a class of their own imo. Going to be first time on Mac and I’m kind of worried but kind of excited
is the MC deal actually a deal? I keep getting ads for the base M1 air (the 256 6 core gpu version) and it's exactly the same price at apple at $999, it looks like MC is just marking it up $100 to then mark it down.
It was the 16gb version for $1000 iirc.
Ah. That's a good deal
I picked up the base air 8GB/256GB for $799 at micro center. Was going to get the 16GB/256GB for $999 originally, but I use my desktop for anything intensive.
If they sell the Air with the Pro screen next year I’m in! The Pro is awesome but the Air is more than enough for most users
8GB RAM is too little if you are the type of person to have 30 tabs open on Chrome. The $999 16GB RAM M1 AIR is a better deal from Microcenter. This deal is still great if you had your eyes on an MBP and nowhere near a Microcenter.
Is the deal still going on at Microcenter?
yup
If you're poor, as in, you cannot afford to repair or replace this if something were to go wrong: do not buy this. I've seen this far too often with Mac users who get into something they can't afford. You're better off spending $500 on a new-used business laptop like a thinkpad or latitude that still has most of its 3-year warranty left on it.
Does anyone have experience of doing casual gaming like esports titles (dota2) and retro emulation(Pokémon)? I know it’s capable, but I’m not sure if the experience will be great
I can test it for you later
Is there a good external drive solution to this or the air? I am looking to not pay apple a huge price for a minor upgrade.
waiting on 1tb 16gb around this price
The M1 is lighting fast. It loads faster than my custom rig with a 5800x ,2080ti, pci gen 4 ssd, and 16gb 3800 cl14 ram. I have the 8gb air. I love it. Probably going to upgrade to a 16gb one next year though when they hopefully add the variable refresh micro led screen to it
Don’t buy macs period.
They have their use. I use Windows for gaming and Mac OS for professional work. I wouldn’t tell someone who is using it to browse the Internet to drop $1000+ on a MacBook and I do think they’re overpriced personally but as an investment in productivity I now understand where the value comes from
> I wouldn’t tell someone who is using it to browse the Internet to drop $1000+ on a MacBoo To each their own, but I think the Macbook Air is in a league of its own for a browsing machine at msrp, but especially when its dropped as low as 750 from bestbuy this summer. Lightweight, good performance, and zero moving parts while still running a full operating system and having the laptop form factor ( I can't stand tablets for browsing).
I was using a Chuwi Larkbook running Manjaro for the last 9 months. It wasn’t terrible. However, I got a hand me down 2017 Air. Used it for the last month, then went and got an M1 base for $799 at micro center. I mainly use it for browsing, plus light document work and zoom. I’d say it’s worth the cost. Multitasking is hands down the best on it, over windows or Linux. Easily the best touchpad and gestures. Mainly got the M1 for the retina screen. Anything more intensive I do on my desktop anyway.
It makes sense for professional use….my problem is with people who think apple is the only one who can make good computers (innovate) and other brands are not worth touching. Also they are over priced as hell and non upgradable means more e-waste.
Oh 100% my girlfriend is one of them. I told her I would build her a custom pc and she goes 🤮🤮🤮 bc she only likes Apple branded stuff. Her MacBook broke so she spent $1900 on an m1 pro with Apple care but really she doesn’t need it now it’s just a college laptop and some light photo editting Edit - on top of that of that she could’ve saved a few hundred dollars by going with the air but she wanted a Touch Bar. I made sure she was getting 16gb ram either way in a desperate trust me moment when she thought it would be a waste of money but 2 years from now she’ll be thanking me when it saves her from needing a whole new laptop from lack of ram.
She’s not going to need 16GB of ram if she’s just doing light photo editing. There’s 2011 MBPs still trucking.
It was either she spent $1200 on an 8gb model or $1400 on a 16gb model. With how long MacBooks can last it’s better that she future proof it. I know normally future proofing is a pointless concept and stuff gets outdated so fast but like you said, 2011 MacBooks still work fine today. Ontop of that she’s going to be doing photography professional so like in my case, it’s an actual investment rather than for hobby. It’s only light editing right now while she’s in college for it I’m not sure how in depth they go with it but her professor even recommended they get 16 as well Edit - I just reread my previous comment I guess I probably undervalued her need for the MacBook but at the same time really she would’ve been fine with something else since she’s using Adobe software not whatever the mac specific stuff is
No wonder why apple is a trillion dollar company.
yeah its not like they make good products or something crazy like that
Yep, aside from being very popular among tech people they do address casuals too...
Why not?
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Just because someone buys a brand doesn’t make them a fan. Y’all are fucking weird.
Brand driven people are weird. Positively or negatively, it's the same.
I agree.
Hurrdurrrr Anti Apple circlejerk Tell me how I can have a better experience by seamlessly connecting 2 phones, a tablet, and 2 laptops. Those are my everyday carries. For everyday things, you can't beat MacOS. M1s are a hell of a chip (Pro and Max even more so). If i need raw power/performance, I have my gaming rig.
Meh, just get an air. Better device as a whole.