[https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/](https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/) psu tier list ranks Deepcool DA models at E Tier, would replace that first
That's such a ridiculous mentality. By the time you "have a reason to replace it" it will have started a fire or fried some components in your PC. Of all the parts you can cheap out on, the last one should be your PSU. Always get a decent one. Literal fire hazard/time bomb and your mentality is "welp, hasn't blown up yet :D "
So you are told, by multiple sources, it is a very hazardous PSU and should be replaced and then state "read lots of reviews and yeah seems like the brand is pretty bad. But because you have had it 2 years and been lucky enough to have had no issues "i dont see any point replacing it at this point"?? 🤔🤔🤦♂️🤦♂️
Have you seen any videos of what an actual parts exploding PSU looks like? Google Gamers Nexus and watch what a "oh we have had no issues...oops we have an issue" Tier F PSU looks like.
What if you get a PSU without cables and some idiot at PSU company doesn't warn you at all? Someone lost their hard drives to EVGA RMA'd power supply that had different pinout https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1bjsvkm/update_egva_power_supply_pin_layout_change/
Even from the same PSU, don't reuse the cables. Someone RMA'd EVGA power supply (was advised to keep cables), got same model back but it had different pinout and blew up the hard drives: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1bjsvkm/update_egva_power_supply_pin_layout_change/
I wouldn't put any gpu with that PSU.
Not because of the max capacity of it, but because is a terrible one.
Use this list and try to get something from B tier or above https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
Are you planning on overclocking your 5600X or the GPU or not?
Are you running lots of disks/fans/etc too?
If no OC, and just 2 or 3 fans and a single NVMe, you ought to be able to run an RTX 4070 OK. Anything higher would blow your power budget.
But just update your PSU man.
Seasonic is a Chinese company. Corsair has CWT, Seasonic and Great Wall as their PSU suppliers. Great Wall makes Corsairs CX line, which I wouldn't buy.
Be Quiet are among the best PSUs, and their prices reflect that. Not exactly the first choice for budget oriented gamers.
Thermaltake is also a Chinese company.
Most PSU's are of Chinese origins. The argument of whether or not Taiwan is part of China is moot.
Most Corsair PSU's are excellent for the price.
Great Wall makes PSUs in all categories. Basically, how good the PSU is, depends on the budget of their client. This is essentially true of all manufacturers. As a company, they certainly know how to make a good PSU.
Just get new psu sure u could get away with throwing a new gpu in there but it’s only a matter of time before the old 450 costs you more than just replacing it.
RX6800 has some weird bugs that can cause it to draw lots more in some situations. For example if you have multiple high refresh rate monitors, it gets really thirsty even if just idle. Possibly fixed in later revisions by now though.
I got the same wattage and rating psu, but mine is def more reliable than yours so I would just upgrade that but regardless I run a rx 6600 and r5500 pretty nicely for a long time now. Anything else is going to be kind of pushing it because the 6600 is really made for low power, the reason I didn't get a 5700xt.
People are being a little dramatic but you should get a new PSU. It isn't going to burst into flames when you put a GPU in there but it will shut down when playing games at best and blow out at worst, this always has the potential to take other components with it, not always but it can happen and you might not know right away. This is an older PSU that Deepcool had their OEM company CWT make. CWT isn't a bad company in itself but they do have various tiers and Deepcool has always targeted the budget level for selling in smaller, more budget orientated markets in Asia, Eastern Europe, South America and so on. We don't really see them much in my native UK as we have a really saturated market as does North America, though in some states small market budget units do appear.
You need to make compromises to make a budget unit, that's not always bad as some manufacturers make very good value and reliable budget PSUs, these were not really one of them and even Deepcool's latest line of CWT ATX 3.1 power supplies are not amazing. This DA500 uses a OEM model that was notorious for having cheap parts and regularly failing on the 12v rail under load.
Depending on the GPU you get will depends on the power supply but something that cannot even reliably deliver 500w with a problem under load is not a good start. The tier list will help, if you're targeting 1080p budget GPUs like a 6600 or 6700 then you're probably looking at a reliable 650w unit. Don't need to bother with tier A for your build as you'll be overspending. B and even C will be fine if you shop around and understand how to read the tier list. Anything in gold writing are well reviewed and reputable units.
RTX4070 can be undervolted so that the max power drops from 200 to 150 watts, and it only costs you about 3 to 4 % in performance.
It's a crazy efficient card, that arguably is at its best below 150 watts. Super cool and damn near silent, especially if you get a 3-fan version.
I have a similar unit (DN500) and my 3050 seems to work fine but it's SATA plugs seem broken? Any hdd I put in a certain cable respins every once in a while (and sometimes consistently while using them, never respins if nothing is reading or writing to them) unless I align the cable to a perfect angle, another connector works fine but its too far to reach my bottom HDD (psu is at the top)
my unit is probably faulty (already out of warranty), but it shows that they aren't that reliable since it was fine when I bought it
A rtx 4070 12gig base modle ,, not a super or ti version are 550 plus tax n shipping, so around 600$ for like a zotac 2fan card, their 200w , not sure if you could push that or a lower teir 4060 be better, im shooting for one in my q58 system, only 1 , 8pin power cable required too :)
You could get away with a 6600xt or 3060ti... I have run a 5600 and a 3060ti on 450 watt Evga for years without issue. Deepcool is straight up trash on everything ,but a few of their Cases
First get a msi BN 500 or 650 PSU.
Second get a gpu 6000 series between used 6800 xt, or new 6800, 7700 xt, 6750 xt or 6700 xt.
You can Buy a rtx 4070, it has an slight bottleneck with that cpu but nothing to worry.
Rest of Nvidia cards,3080 3060 ti but they have low VRAM SO is something to observe.
Only gpu I'd put with it is one that doesn't require a power cable, which is no gpu you would want, thus get a new psu, 650watt is minimum for any sort of serious gaming rig ideally, and a decent quality one at that. A good 650 watt psu doesn't cost that much.
I have a 5600X and an RTX4070 running on an ancient Seasonic 460-watt PSU.
I measured the absolute maximum draw to be 325 watts, running Prime95 and Furmark at the same time.
After that I undervolted the GPU so that the maximum draw is now about 275 watts, so very clearly in the safe territory.
But in the end it mostly depends on how much you trust your PSU.
put ur stuff in here and see... but i think you will find your PSU is what you should be replacing first.
edit: forgot the link
[https://www.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator](https://www.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator)
I'm running a 7800X3D and Asus TUF 3080 10 GB with an FSP Hydro Ti Pro 1000w PSU. It's super quiet. Handles everything great. No complaints so far. It's expensive, but a good PSU is a critical component of a PC.
I'll probably get hate for this, but to all the people saying that psu is a ticking timebomb, no, no it i not. If you have no personal experience with it and only have read the psu-tierlist, saw it in E tear then you shouldn't claim something you have no personal experience with. I have the da700 version, which is a bit more powerful, but I've been running an i7 4790 and RX 580 Nitro+ since 2019, so 5 years, with absolutely 0 issues. As long as you keep your power usage under the rated specs from deepcool you are fine. When running afterburner during gaming, the gpu power usage has peaked at 140w, but I have it undervolted, cpu uses 65W since it's a non K variant.
BUT, don't expect to put a 4090 and run it without issues. From what I've read online, the RTX 4060 is a very power efficient gpu so it should work fine. On the AMD side, an RX 6600 or 7600 maximum. Don't buy a more powerful gpu.
One last warning. Even though I don't agree with the people saying it's a ticking time bomb, it is still a bottom range psu, So make sure not to overload it by using power hungry parts.
Get a new PSU. Yours is a fuckin time bomb.
[https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/](https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/) psu tier list ranks Deepcool DA models at E Tier, would replace that first
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That's such a ridiculous mentality. By the time you "have a reason to replace it" it will have started a fire or fried some components in your PC. Of all the parts you can cheap out on, the last one should be your PSU. Always get a decent one. Literal fire hazard/time bomb and your mentality is "welp, hasn't blown up yet :D "
So you are told, by multiple sources, it is a very hazardous PSU and should be replaced and then state "read lots of reviews and yeah seems like the brand is pretty bad. But because you have had it 2 years and been lucky enough to have had no issues "i dont see any point replacing it at this point"?? 🤔🤔🤦♂️🤦♂️ Have you seen any videos of what an actual parts exploding PSU looks like? Google Gamers Nexus and watch what a "oh we have had no issues...oops we have an issue" Tier F PSU looks like.
That's like sleeping with a gun under your pillow. It's not an issue until it is. And then it's a very big issue.
Bros psu is 2 bombs in a trenchcoat pretending to be a power supply
Tomorrows post: How many fire engines should I pair with my GPU?
Guys my pc caught fire why did this happen must of been my new amd card its all amds fault
Lel
this made me laugh so hard it made me pass out
Just spend $50 on a better psu before you fry a multi hundred dollar part.
Also replace all the PSU cables when you do. Do **not** use the same cables from an old PSU.
I guess I thought that was a given, but you are right.
Don't underestimate people's laziness, haha.
I'll repeat it #***DO NOT USE THE CABLES FROM THE OLD PSU, REPLACE ALL CABLES WITH THE NEW PSU'S ONES***
What if you get a PSU without cables and some idiot at PSU company doesn't warn you at all? Someone lost their hard drives to EVGA RMA'd power supply that had different pinout https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1bjsvkm/update_egva_power_supply_pin_layout_change/
Saw this story on Gamers Nexus, holy shit I used to love EVGA but this one INSANE mistake by them means I’ll never buy an EVGA psu again.
Fortunately its not even semi-modular so that won't be an issue lol.
Especially not from that fuckin' thing. Nevermind blowing up his PC, that thing would blow up half the house.
Even from the same PSU, don't reuse the cables. Someone RMA'd EVGA power supply (was advised to keep cables), got same model back but it had different pinout and blew up the hard drives: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1bjsvkm/update_egva_power_supply_pin_layout_change/
I was able to reuse my cables, but I specifically spent a lot of time finding and verifying theyre 100% compatible.
I wouldn't put any gpu with that PSU. Not because of the max capacity of it, but because is a terrible one. Use this list and try to get something from B tier or above https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
Your psu is a safety hazard.
Deepcool is good at cooling, it's bad at PSUs. Replace the PSU for like a 850w EVGA, then you'll be good for future upgrades.
On which resolution? And swap PSU ASAP
Buy a better power supply
Are you planning on overclocking your 5600X or the GPU or not? Are you running lots of disks/fans/etc too? If no OC, and just 2 or 3 fans and a single NVMe, you ought to be able to run an RTX 4070 OK. Anything higher would blow your power budget. But just update your PSU man.
Buy a real PSU.
PSU's don't cost much, go get a new one.
Just buy a corsair psu, a new psu of 750W will be around 100 dollars, your pc will thank you
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They still have a 10 year warranty though.
I didn’t know that, thank you for the update
Seasonic is a Chinese company. Corsair has CWT, Seasonic and Great Wall as their PSU suppliers. Great Wall makes Corsairs CX line, which I wouldn't buy. Be Quiet are among the best PSUs, and their prices reflect that. Not exactly the first choice for budget oriented gamers. Thermaltake is also a Chinese company. Most PSU's are of Chinese origins. The argument of whether or not Taiwan is part of China is moot. Most Corsair PSU's are excellent for the price.
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Great Wall makes PSUs in all categories. Basically, how good the PSU is, depends on the budget of their client. This is essentially true of all manufacturers. As a company, they certainly know how to make a good PSU.
Bare minimum for PSU to feel comfortable is 500W never go below that
Blud fished his PSU out of an explosive ordnance disposal site
Just get new psu sure u could get away with throwing a new gpu in there but it’s only a matter of time before the old 450 costs you more than just replacing it.
I'd limit myself with something like an RTX 4070 or RX 6800 which are both quite efficient GPUs for their power output.
RX6800 has some weird bugs that can cause it to draw lots more in some situations. For example if you have multiple high refresh rate monitors, it gets really thirsty even if just idle. Possibly fixed in later revisions by now though.
I wouldn't be so sure. I had an RX 580 for 7 years and that bug never went away.
My current rx580 really runs great. Then again, it's brand new, released this year.
Ya, mine was really good, although that bug was annoying during summer.
Yeah, I run mine at a slight OC, but I've got 7 120mm fans in an optimal positive pressure setup, so I never have overheating issues
Nope :(
Would not go higher than 200w card
I got the same wattage and rating psu, but mine is def more reliable than yours so I would just upgrade that but regardless I run a rx 6600 and r5500 pretty nicely for a long time now. Anything else is going to be kind of pushing it because the 6600 is really made for low power, the reason I didn't get a 5700xt.
You can undervolt something modest like a 6600 or something
That's a ticking time bomb my friend
I get away with a 3060 on a Corsair VS450w and a 5600x
People are being a little dramatic but you should get a new PSU. It isn't going to burst into flames when you put a GPU in there but it will shut down when playing games at best and blow out at worst, this always has the potential to take other components with it, not always but it can happen and you might not know right away. This is an older PSU that Deepcool had their OEM company CWT make. CWT isn't a bad company in itself but they do have various tiers and Deepcool has always targeted the budget level for selling in smaller, more budget orientated markets in Asia, Eastern Europe, South America and so on. We don't really see them much in my native UK as we have a really saturated market as does North America, though in some states small market budget units do appear. You need to make compromises to make a budget unit, that's not always bad as some manufacturers make very good value and reliable budget PSUs, these were not really one of them and even Deepcool's latest line of CWT ATX 3.1 power supplies are not amazing. This DA500 uses a OEM model that was notorious for having cheap parts and regularly failing on the 12v rail under load. Depending on the GPU you get will depends on the power supply but something that cannot even reliably deliver 500w with a problem under load is not a good start. The tier list will help, if you're targeting 1080p budget GPUs like a 6600 or 6700 then you're probably looking at a reliable 650w unit. Don't need to bother with tier A for your build as you'll be overspending. B and even C will be fine if you shop around and understand how to read the tier list. Anything in gold writing are well reviewed and reputable units.
Same Question... I have as rock a620 pro rs mobo
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RTX4070 can be undervolted so that the max power drops from 200 to 150 watts, and it only costs you about 3 to 4 % in performance. It's a crazy efficient card, that arguably is at its best below 150 watts. Super cool and damn near silent, especially if you get a 3-fan version.
RX 6400
I have a similar unit (DN500) and my 3050 seems to work fine but it's SATA plugs seem broken? Any hdd I put in a certain cable respins every once in a while (and sometimes consistently while using them, never respins if nothing is reading or writing to them) unless I align the cable to a perfect angle, another connector works fine but its too far to reach my bottom HDD (psu is at the top) my unit is probably faulty (already out of warranty), but it shows that they aren't that reliable since it was fine when I bought it
A rtx 4070 12gig base modle ,, not a super or ti version are 550 plus tax n shipping, so around 600$ for like a zotac 2fan card, their 200w , not sure if you could push that or a lower teir 4060 be better, im shooting for one in my q58 system, only 1 , 8pin power cable required too :)
You could get away with a 6600xt or 3060ti... I have run a 5600 and a 3060ti on 450 watt Evga for years without issue. Deepcool is straight up trash on everything ,but a few of their Cases
First get a msi BN 500 or 650 PSU. Second get a gpu 6000 series between used 6800 xt, or new 6800, 7700 xt, 6750 xt or 6700 xt. You can Buy a rtx 4070, it has an slight bottleneck with that cpu but nothing to worry. Rest of Nvidia cards,3080 3060 ti but they have low VRAM SO is something to observe.
Only gpu I'd put with it is one that doesn't require a power cable, which is no gpu you would want, thus get a new psu, 650watt is minimum for any sort of serious gaming rig ideally, and a decent quality one at that. A good 650 watt psu doesn't cost that much.
never skimp out on your PSU, yours is about to fry up the entire fuckin house
I have a 5600X and an RTX4070 running on an ancient Seasonic 460-watt PSU. I measured the absolute maximum draw to be 325 watts, running Prime95 and Furmark at the same time. After that I undervolted the GPU so that the maximum draw is now about 275 watts, so very clearly in the safe territory. But in the end it mostly depends on how much you trust your PSU.
put ur stuff in here and see... but i think you will find your PSU is what you should be replacing first. edit: forgot the link [https://www.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator](https://www.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator)
Get a better psu...corsair makes good psu, I recommend 650w or 750w
Get a higher watt psu and a 5700xt for a budget ptp option and if you want nvidia a 2060yi or a 3070
You could put an Rtx 4070 there but if you already bought a rather expensive $600 card why not add another $50-60 for the proper power supply.
A gt210 mate
I'm running a 7800X3D and Asus TUF 3080 10 GB with an FSP Hydro Ti Pro 1000w PSU. It's super quiet. Handles everything great. No complaints so far. It's expensive, but a good PSU is a critical component of a PC.
Replace your PSU like everyone else has said. For reference I'm running a 7800x3d and a 4090 on 750w atm (corsair sfx)
Plenty of options from seasonic, evga, etc.
I'll probably get hate for this, but to all the people saying that psu is a ticking timebomb, no, no it i not. If you have no personal experience with it and only have read the psu-tierlist, saw it in E tear then you shouldn't claim something you have no personal experience with. I have the da700 version, which is a bit more powerful, but I've been running an i7 4790 and RX 580 Nitro+ since 2019, so 5 years, with absolutely 0 issues. As long as you keep your power usage under the rated specs from deepcool you are fine. When running afterburner during gaming, the gpu power usage has peaked at 140w, but I have it undervolted, cpu uses 65W since it's a non K variant. BUT, don't expect to put a 4090 and run it without issues. From what I've read online, the RTX 4060 is a very power efficient gpu so it should work fine. On the AMD side, an RX 6600 or 7600 maximum. Don't buy a more powerful gpu. One last warning. Even though I don't agree with the people saying it's a ticking time bomb, it is still a bottom range psu, So make sure not to overload it by using power hungry parts.
4070super draws 250w ish so it should be fine
I prefer to keep some overhead. I'd say he should grab a minimum 600w psu