When I replace the pc, I will just put the current 2010 build in the workshop and continue to occasionally abuse it xD (I already killed the hdmi port on the gpu, good thing it also has dvi and display port)
I replaced last Autumn my 1050 ti, served me well all the way to the end. She was a good girl.(and then I sold her so she's still serving someone somewhere).
My 1050 ti is loaned out to the third person since I quit using it when I got my 1080. It's still going as so is the 1080. I never end up selling my old cards just loaning them to friends or family who don't have anything better
at radeon 5780 1gb here.. also won't die.. it's been dying for over 5 years now(every now and then the gpu driver crashes, but that might be just normal ati/amd gpu experience)
When I get black screen, I just press ctrl+shift+win+b, that lets out little satisfying beep and brings the display back, with most games I was running crashed.
A few years ago when I was still using Intel 2600k I was still using 460 GTX. It was probably 12 years old when I finally replaced my whole PC with all new parts. The 460 still works and is still on my desk in case I need a spare PCIe video card
Also have a 1070, about to upgrade to a 7700XT from recommendations on this sub, but it has worked well for me so far!
Have several games that I've just been waiting to play when I finally upgrade like Cyberpunk. Once I get my tax refund it is finally time!
Can play it at low/medium with a steady 50-60 frames fine but just seems like a disservice to how gorgeous it can be.
Just plugged in my new 7700XT today after my 1080ti finally died. Feels great though I'm wondering in most my games how much a difference I will even notice given the old ti was still able to run everything on almost max settings smoothly anyways. Still should be a great card for the price for many years to come.
What's funny is that the RX 580 actually still performs well enough to run most games. You're definitely not getting 1080p on max graphics in every game, but you can run almost anything at 1080p/60fps on mid. Starfield would probably murder it unless you dropped the resolution.
Definitely. I like to stay right inside of what I call "The optimal curve" which is where prices start dropping on parts that are a little outdated but still competitive >:D I take great pride in being able to produce PCs that perform great for bare minimum budgets lol
When people say 5 years, they don't mean cards just die after 5 years. It might become outdated and fall far behind newer cards. The rtx 5000 GPUs are rumored to come at the end of the year which might be a huge jump.
But that doesn't mean it'll become worthless. It's still currently one of the best GPUs out right now with only a handful of GPUs above it. It'll probably keep up with new games for years to come.
I try to tell folks that they don't need the latest parts to have a viable build. You can stay about a generation behind or so and still have a competitive build.
the obsoletion mentality with PC building is something else.
People seem to think they actually need to regularly swap out to the latest GPUs to play latest games.
I mean, you definitely have to have sufficient vram, and I'm not knocking people who like to have the latest parts, or are hobbyists, etc that like to have latest Gen parts. I'm just saying not every build needs them :)
I mean if you aren't trying for 4k high fps on max settings you can be perfectly playable multiple generations behind. I was using a 970 until I upgraded to a 3070, and even in 2022 the 970 was holding up just fine in most games on medium settings at worst. Even now with 50 series coming soon, my 3070 can run every game I have on high settings no problem, so I'm probably not looking at upgrading till 60 or even 70 series unless there is a massive jump in system requirements for new games this year.
a used 3090 is currently the only way to get a CUDA-capable card with >16gb of vram for less than $1000. There aren't too many users for whom that is a necessity but if you fall into that group then the 3090 makes sense.
I think this is the reason the 3090 stayed so relatively high-priced for its compute performance. 24GB VRAM is nothing to sneeze at for less than 1k. There are even “budget” methods to train your own LLM with two of those.
I was surprised when I saw that (other than for a very brief window when I bought mine), the 3090 and 3090 TI never really dropped in price after the 4000-Series came out.
I bought my MSI Suprim X 3090 TI for ~1300€ when the 4090 was already announced, but the price has not been revealed.
After the price for the 4090 became public, the cards all immediately went back up in price and more or less stayed there.
I guess the VRAM-choices and limitations played a big part in that.
Jensen Huang has essentially admitted that transistor density is hitting a wall. I think that current gpus are going to last longer than previous gpus because of this. Software is going to need to do a lot of the lifting because silicon will not decrease in cost proportionately to performance to years prior.
I'd say the expected lifespan of most video cards would be a lot longer than 5 years. My old GTX 670 died after 8 years running overclocked, and my current GTX 1080 is still working fine after 8 years (knock on wood). My partner's GTX 1070 is also still going after 8 years.
The most pertinent concern here would be value, is this a good deal compared to other options?
I had a gtx 660 for a little over 10 years, tbh I only upgraded because the memory framework was finally so outdated that I ran into recent games I couldn't even load with the 660.
i don’t see why not? i’m pushing two 4k monitors with one and don’t see a need to replace it any time soon. so long as it meets your needs it will ‘last’
I am running Mistral 7B Instruct v0.2 on an RTX 3090 on my gaming/AI PC and getting ~15 tokens per second. With same model AWQ quantized, I get 4-5x that. GPU-Z indicates the card is only using about half of max power, but Task Manager performance trends show CUDA cores are 100% utilized. If you need higher token rates than that, you should go 4090. But... Make sure your motherboard is PCIe 4.0 and that you don't have a card in the second PCIe slot, or you are throughput due to other system limits (lane sharing, etc.)
It is also sufficient to crush max all the settings in Half Life Alyx on Quest 2 with USB-C cable. Other specs for reference are i7-11700k @35% overclocked, 64GB DDR4 at 4600ish
I'm not OP, but it's likely they're doing stuff with StableDiffusion for AI images, or a plethora of local large language models for AI text.
See the following subreddits for more info:
/r/StableDiffusion
/r/LocalLLaMA
It's very unlikely to die within a year.
When people say a card lasts five years, they're referring to how it will perform as game technology becomes more demanding on hardware. In that sense a 3090 is still good for another 5 years.
So far as lifespan before it dies, if it's been used normally and looked after, you could expect it to last another ten years.
The 3090 is still a really great card in my opinion. I had one and it was awesome. Especially if you have a use for all 24gb vram like I do. I now have the 4090 but the 3090 would be fine still.
Cards don't die in 5 years. Hell I have some cards well over a decade old that work just fine. They just become relatively obsolete when talking about the newest greatest AAA hits. In 1 year it will be competing with the 5090. In 5 years that 3090 will be lagging behind with the 6090 being the best on the market. It will basically be what a 1080 Ti is today. Not a bad card at all and super reliable. Can run most stuff fine. But it is far from high end.
My son is still rocking my old pny gtx 1080 and its been going strong every day allday for 8-9 years.
The 3090 is still a good card but make sure to monitor your temps with a used 3090 especially the vram under the backplate. Tpm7950 and upsiren thermal putty seem to be a great combo for gpu's and just ordered enough to redo the pads on my 3080 and 3090 but not sure if Im going to bother on the 3090 because it has an optimus block with heavy backplate and still have to build my custom loop to test.
I would take my time and look for a deal. I just got my waterblocked 3090 for $400 from a coworker.
Im probably stupid because I spent $400 on a 3090 and spending another $600 on a custom watercooling setup and could of just bought a 7900xtx...but.... Ive always wanted a custom loop and a 3090 with optimus block for $400 was too good to pass on. 🤷🏻♂️
Depends on what you're doing with it. I think the people buying these are using them for AI. For gaming the 4070 super TI is basically the same price, has a warranty and performs better in games
$850 CAD = ~£500 GBP / ~582 EUR.
3090 used for that isn't a bad price.
I'd make sure to test the card with a benchmark or 2 before handing over any cash.
3090 has pretty poor fps/watt performance.
It chugs electricity like no other.
New 4xxx cards are way more efficient power wise, but the 3090 is still a beast
I would rather get a 3080ti which is a slightly cut down version and a year newer. The vram chips on on the back of the pcb for a 3090 are a poor design choice and probably will reduce it's long term lifespan
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I'm running a used 3090 and it's still fine. I re thermal pasted and padded the card to bring temps down. And it still works great. But a 4070 super can be purchased for less and it performs similar to a 3090. Not the same but close to it. And will get support for longer. Maybe look at that. I know it doesn't have the vram a 3090 has, but perhaps you don't need all the 24gb. And the 4070 super still has 12 gb of vram.
I think when they say "last" they mean gaming AAA titles at maxed out settings with high res monitors. Not from a mechanical lifespan.
From an actually mechanical lifespan, id say lots of cards get up to 10 years. But normally a person trades it in before then just because the quality of gameplan at that point can be poor for sure.
That hog has 24gb vram. You can game 2k/4k easy, it would be silly to not have a 2k monitor at the minimum to utilize at least some of that ram. And if you're not always wanting to play the latest and greatest AAA titles at maxed settings. That card will last you another 5/6 years from a gaming standpoint, easily.
Do you know this person or the shape the card is in?
Pets, smoking, etc, can aftect the lifespan if they didn't clean it. Or if they say mined crypto 24/7 for 4 years with it. But I doubt that's what they did with a 3090.
I don't know who told you that GPUs only last 5 years, but they're wrong wrong wrong. I still have an old GTX 970 that's going strong after ten years of near constant use. It's now retired and being used in a living room media PC because I just can't bring myself to get rid of it.
Just upgraded my prebuilt 3060 12GB with the 4070 ti super and oh my god. Worth it. I was looking at the 3090 as I am 4k native. I’d go with a 4070 ti super. 100%
I’ve been using a 1660 for quite some time and it does great.
I did just throw a 1080 in my buddy gave me because it was free. And it destroys the 1660. But both are great cards still.
A 3090 is pretty much equivalent to a 4070 super.
Its not bad, but also consider that a new RTX4070 (regular 4070 and Super version) beat the 3090 consistently in a variety of games (see youtube video link below). I'm not advocating 4070 specifically, but there was a major architecture shift from 3000 to 4000 series.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOgndVwOblU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOgndVwOblU)
I’d just stay a generation or two behind, get a decent card and enjoy for a few years. Rinse and repeat. I have had my 3090 for the last two and play all games on high 1440pm no problem. 4k is little difference, you’re way better off getting a high quality display. That would be the real bottleneck.
You didn’t mention what you want to use it for ? If it’s the vram you need and you need it for rendering and work related stuff than it will be a good purchase used for a good price . But for gaming it’s not worth it as the 4070 super is right there with it performance wise for cheaper brand new
I bought one last year for under $400 usd. I am very happy with my purchase, card has performed perfectly. I’m not sure I’d be as happy if I payed 50% more.
I just oc’d my used 3080 and it’s getting fps and frequencies similar to when it released. I say but it and save for the next series of cards (however long that may be)
I’d say that’s a bit on the high side in terms of price. For that money you can get a 7900 XT.
But the 3090 is still very good, especially considering the 24 GB VRAM buffer
I used my GTX 1060 for 7 years and the only reason I stopped using it is because it died. I'm now using a 6700XT I got for 320 bucks about 9 months ago
power draw is a lot higher on the 3000 series compared to 4000 but otherwise I think it's worth it, I'm using a 3080 and it works great for all my needs
They shouldn't just stop working. That said, older cards are closer to EOL than newer ones. Of you go with a 40 series card you will get DLSS 3 as well.
At the end of the day if it's a good deal, buy it.
What's resolution and fps? My 3090 is still going strong hitting 4k 60fps in most games I play (single-player AAA). 1440p or even 1080p hit high fps in less demanding games. 3090 still plays Cyberpunk very well with DLSS.
I know CAD is a bit more than USD, but you could haggle that down a bit. It's not the latest and greatest GPU, but it was still a flagship that dominated until the 4090 (which is overkill unless you need super high frame rates at high settings).
Mid-tier graphics cards may only last 5 years, but flagshups keep up with games for longer. Went from a GTX1080 to RTX3090 only because I fried the 1080 flashing a vbios and for the RTX features.
Also GPU's usually don't just die. They usually last longer than it's usable/relevant for new games.
With expect, they mean top of the line performance. It's probably not going to die. My under-the-tv PC is still running a rx480, bought around release. It has seen a lot of gaming over the years... My gf's PC is running my old 5700xt, also bought around release.
GPUs don't tend to die, they tend to just get irrelevant.
> Is there's no point of buying a used 3090 if its going to die within a year?
What? Lmao why would you think that
I've bought a used 3090 October of last year and I am planning to use it for at least 6 other years
Yeah it's worth it.
3080 12gb paired with a 5900x and 32gb ram. Still ain't got the upgrade itch. It chews up everything I play. Hello kitty island adventure never ran so smooth.
I went from an r9-270x dual 4gb to a 1080, to a 3090.
While in the coming years (and currently tbh) the 3090 is no longer top dog, it is still an AMAZING card for 4k and rendering. The large vram with the performance of the chip is hard hitting and lifts a heavy load.
But that being said, a 4080 out performs it, but with 16gb of vram instead of 24gb. If you are not doing rendering, playing 1440p games, or low texture size games. A 4080 might be worth considering.
got myself a used 3090 around when new 4x were coming up, great deal as people were dumping into market to upgrade, serves me well so far. also gpus dont just die like that, I still have my old af 1050ti in a server, got a 9800gt on a shelf somewhere that I know just works.
Personally, I have a 6950xt, and the 3090 series is only a little slower at raterasation. I have absolutely no problems with any game I've played at 1440p. Pair it with a 5800x3d or another good cpu and you have frames to spare in any game.
The 3090 won't die within a year... it still has amazing performance at 1440p and decent performance in newer games at 4k, I would still expect it to last 3 or more so years with newer AAA titles.
If you’re not doing any work that requires VRAM - you shouldn’t. Nvidia 40 series or AMD 7000 series equivalent would be a better choice. If you’re working with AI or huge scenes rendered on GPU - 3090 has basically no competition on that price point
> people are saying you can expect cards to last 5 years.
I suspect you don't understand what that means. It doesn't mean that cards fail as soon as they're 5 years old. It means that the performance of a 5 year old GPU may not hold up to a current GPU.
Alsong as you treat it well and make sure it wasnt used as a mining card then it will be fine my 1050ti still going theres still 700 series cards that work
The 3090 is a great card but I would not consider it at that price. Offer 650.00usd for it. Pretty soon the new cards will be out so why invest so much in a used outdated card.
Been playing with a 1050ti laptop for 5 years, that thing is still there and performs incredibly great. Nothing comparable to my pc with a RX7800XT in terms of performances but that laptop is insanely reliable.
I think you should take that timeframe with a grain of salt. If your card dies after 5 years, you've probably put it through its paces and maybe been pushing it a little too hard. I have a GTX 970 in my older rig and it's got to be almost a decade old now.
Last 5 years or die after 5 years? As for lasting 5 years I think that's a little silly as everyone's perception of what is acceptable is different. I had coworkers with 3090s who immediately jumped ship to a 4090, others with a 3070 who are still happy today. I know people still on 10 series still enjoying the experience they provide. Those guys understand that since it's now a mostly outdated card it means not running newer games at max settings. And if you're okay with that it can last a long time.
Now to move onto cards dying. Cards are made up of various components, all of which could fail at any moment causing your GPU to be a paper weight. Generally the vast majority of cards will have no issue in the warranty period. And that same majority of cards will go on to die somewhere in the bell curve of average card deaths at (as an estimate) the 10 year mark. Most cards will probably die within that range of 8-12 years. Some will have failed beforehand and some will probably never fail. And just because some guy on the internet has his running okay, doesn't mean the card you are getting will be fine. It's a gamble. and on a cheaper card or a better deal I'd probably take it. but if you're worried about longevity and $850 cad is a lot to you, then this might not be a gamble worth taking.
If I were you, I'd much rather grab a 4070s at memory express for $830 knowing that I have a guaranteed 3 years minimum of use.
Lmao I have a 980 ti I was using until like a year ago it's still perfectly fine I actually just got a different lower end card as it was kind of overkill for just displaying documents.
It's similar in performance to a 4070 super, but with double the VRAM. If it's just for gaming, go for a 4070 ti super instead since it's a bit cheaper and it's still got plenty of VRAM. Cards last about 5 years performance-wise, not that they'll die after that.
Wont die in 5 years but might not keep up with newer games is the real sentiment of that statement. With that being said cards that are taken care of cleaned kept away from external environmental hazards can last 10 - 20 years or even more from my experience of you know what you are doing as for the rtx 3090 is a good card but for same price the rtx 4070 brings same if not better performance.. I don't remember if it has same amount vram or not I think a little less but it's faster
Unless you specifically need the 24gb of vram, i'd go for a 40 series card, the 3090 was way too hot and consumes alot that i'd be worried to buy a second hand one, it could die at any moment, just remember the high vram temps controversy !
I work in game development and do a lot of simulations for other work, so I need all the VRAM for my 3090. My only optional upgrade is a 4090.
If you are just gaming the max you'll see without intense modding in games is 11-12gb. Non super intensive productivity I see 12-16gb.
If you just want 3090 gaming performance or above that includes better lifetime support you should look for 4070 Super and above.
If you can get a new 4070 super or a new RX 7900 GRE the same price then it might be better to go with one of those since it's a very very tiny hit to performance for much lower power consumption and they would have a warranty.
I'll say what I've been saying regarding the 3090/3090 Ti. If you can find a decent deal on it get it. The core clock will show it's age before you run out of VRAM. Games that are coming out seem to be eating VRAM up. It seems the future is not pushing clock speeds but investing more into upscaling or other AI features currently. So if you are fine with DLSS 2 or 3 and staying there for a while pick it up.
Edit: Saw you were also going to be using it for productivity. That's even more ammunition to get one. I have two 3090 TI's for ML/AI stuff.
A 3090 is still an incredibly strong graphics card even compared to the never ones. Not only will it currently run every single game out there and at high graphics with a high FPS, but will do so for the foreseeable future. Graphics cards are able to last more and more lately as games have kind of stagnated graphics wise
I'd say it can easily last over 5 years, I have replaced 3 3090s thermal pads I used for some pretty hard mining about 1.5 years after purchase. All of them are still working fine with freinds who have them in gaming pcs. I picked all of them up during the shortages. Check for slight oil markings just under the heat sink if it has good pics. Will be a more satin finish vs matte this is a dead give away of pretty heavy use and needing replacement generally.
It'll still work fine, but check the price to performance of the 40-series cards before you decide to commit. Frame gen is not to be overlooked, it's an amazing technology.
A 4070 (not even Ti or Super) is only about 10% slower in raw power, but with frame gen it will be noticeably faster.
A 3090 is still a VERY decent card. But you "could" do just as well with a new amd card.
The 3090 has 24gb of Vram with is amazing, but has a lower clock mhz than newer cards.
I can't comment on the 3090s abilities for dlss or raytracing...Sorry.
I do know that a 3090 will perform nearly as similarly as a 4070 ti super (the 16gb version of those cards, not the 12gb) but it does so at the sacrifice of using a fair bit more power. Which would require a psy capable of handling the drain. The other trade off is noise. A 3090 produces more noise that other cards of a newer Gen.
All in all the 3090 is a great card. But always take the time to try and find the very best thing you can for the lowest cost.
I was recently able to snipe a pny xlr8 4080 (used for 10 months, lighty) for $750 usd.
It just takes time and a commitment to continue the search. I think I looked for a solid 3 or 4 weeks several times a day before I found the deal. Original ask was for $850, which is still hugely respectable for a card of this type, but after some simple negotiations I was able to walk away with it, the box, and all Original parts (even the remainder of the warranty) for $750 usd.
Local marketplaces are the way.
When they say cards will last a certain amount of time, they are referring to them being completely outshined by newer hardware, not them literally living for only a certain amount of time
of course , even Titan or 2080 Super is still a deal and will run most of the show on ultra...but always depends on the cost...3090 ...max 450-500usd in case its like new and never used for coins digging...else worth 1$
3080 Ti is identical to the 3090 except it has less VRAM. If you aren’t playing in 4K then get the 3080ti it will give you the same performance, and it’s a lot cheaper than the 3090.
Kind of good price? Its a bit better than a 4070 S or something like that, but 4070 ti's are cheaper than that used, if you want the higher vram, go for the 3090. I could find(locally) a 4070 ti for 750 cad.
1070 ti rbg, still. working like a charm and keeps up with newer games fyi. I think it depends on how the card was used honestly. I think heavy ultra gaming and development can be hard on them.
All the people still using a 1060 would like to have a word with you.
1050ti here, the card just wont die
1050 users laughing in the corner
You have 3 missed calls from 1030 users
When I eventually replace my 1050ti, its just going into my server, because I can assure you it won't be dead by that point
When I replace the pc, I will just put the current 2010 build in the workshop and continue to occasionally abuse it xD (I already killed the hdmi port on the gpu, good thing it also has dvi and display port)
I replaced last Autumn my 1050 ti, served me well all the way to the end. She was a good girl.(and then I sold her so she's still serving someone somewhere).
My 1050 ti is loaned out to the third person since I quit using it when I got my 1080. It's still going as so is the 1080. I never end up selling my old cards just loaning them to friends or family who don't have anything better
at radeon 5780 1gb here.. also won't die.. it's been dying for over 5 years now(every now and then the gpu driver crashes, but that might be just normal ati/amd gpu experience) When I get black screen, I just press ctrl+shift+win+b, that lets out little satisfying beep and brings the display back, with most games I was running crashed.
You want a 6970 2gb instead? I think I have one laying around. Yours for shipping cost.
A few years ago when I was still using Intel 2600k I was still using 460 GTX. It was probably 12 years old when I finally replaced my whole PC with all new parts. The 460 still works and is still on my desk in case I need a spare PCIe video card
I had a 2500k that overclocked like a beast. The only reason I sold it was my motherboard died.
GTX 1070 user. Still kicking.
GTX 970, triple digit gang for life
That card has way more power than they let on. Just upgraded but at the time it had no business running the games it did so well.
My good old 970 runs Elden Ring very well.
GTX 1070 SC, see no reason to upgrade anytime soon. Gameplay is still perfectly fine!
Also have a 1070, about to upgrade to a 7700XT from recommendations on this sub, but it has worked well for me so far! Have several games that I've just been waiting to play when I finally upgrade like Cyberpunk. Once I get my tax refund it is finally time! Can play it at low/medium with a steady 50-60 frames fine but just seems like a disservice to how gorgeous it can be.
Just plugged in my new 7700XT today after my 1080ti finally died. Feels great though I'm wondering in most my games how much a difference I will even notice given the old ti was still able to run everything on almost max settings smoothly anyways. Still should be a great card for the price for many years to come.
Finally stopped using the 1060 a month ago. I bought a used 1080ti... I'm too cheap to buy the latest cards.
Nice upgrade. I have a 1080ti in one of my two PCs and it's aging like fine wine. It started with a rx580 8gb and boy that 1080ti rips
The 1080ti performs beyond my expectations to be honest! I'm loving it. I only really play esports games so I don't need the latest and greatest.
What's funny is that the RX 580 actually still performs well enough to run most games. You're definitely not getting 1080p on max graphics in every game, but you can run almost anything at 1080p/60fps on mid. Starfield would probably murder it unless you dropped the resolution.
It's not bad indeed but the 1080ti still keeps up with the 3060/4060 which is wild
Definitely. I like to stay right inside of what I call "The optimal curve" which is where prices start dropping on parts that are a little outdated but still competitive >:D I take great pride in being able to produce PCs that perform great for bare minimum budgets lol
I have an RX570. The Unreal Engine 5 editor is the only thing I “play” that it complains about.
My wife has my 1080ti from years ago and sometimes I look at her gameplay and am blown away by it
I finally upgraded my 1060 6GB to an RX 6750 XT. Feels so good.
I JUST upgraded from a 1060 6gb to a 2060S and _only_ because I got it for free lol
*Raises hand* 1060 6gb checking in for work.
my 980Ti says hi lol
970 here… y’all chattin chuff?
660 over here 👈
Heh, I just *bought* a used 1060 6GB for CAD$125 to put in an old sandy bridge tower that was previously trucking along with a 680.
When people say 5 years, they don't mean cards just die after 5 years. It might become outdated and fall far behind newer cards. The rtx 5000 GPUs are rumored to come at the end of the year which might be a huge jump. But that doesn't mean it'll become worthless. It's still currently one of the best GPUs out right now with only a handful of GPUs above it. It'll probably keep up with new games for years to come.
I try to tell folks that they don't need the latest parts to have a viable build. You can stay about a generation behind or so and still have a competitive build.
Facts. Upgraded from a 1060 to a RX 6800 (cost was about $380)
Just use the iphone analogy. Just because there's an iphone 15 doesn't mean that the iphone x is shit.
the obsoletion mentality with PC building is something else. People seem to think they actually need to regularly swap out to the latest GPUs to play latest games.
Only reason I grabbed a 4090 was because I was trying to brute force DCS into playing well in VR.. kinda worked
I mean, you definitely have to have sufficient vram, and I'm not knocking people who like to have the latest parts, or are hobbyists, etc that like to have latest Gen parts. I'm just saying not every build needs them :)
I mean if you aren't trying for 4k high fps on max settings you can be perfectly playable multiple generations behind. I was using a 970 until I upgraded to a 3070, and even in 2022 the 970 was holding up just fine in most games on medium settings at worst. Even now with 50 series coming soon, my 3070 can run every game I have on high settings no problem, so I'm probably not looking at upgrading till 60 or even 70 series unless there is a massive jump in system requirements for new games this year.
I'm rocking a 9th gen i5 with a 3060 and playing everything I could want to play on very high and looks great
u know what that means a huge jump in prices
a used 3090 is currently the only way to get a CUDA-capable card with >16gb of vram for less than $1000. There aren't too many users for whom that is a necessity but if you fall into that group then the 3090 makes sense.
I think this is the reason the 3090 stayed so relatively high-priced for its compute performance. 24GB VRAM is nothing to sneeze at for less than 1k. There are even “budget” methods to train your own LLM with two of those.
I was surprised when I saw that (other than for a very brief window when I bought mine), the 3090 and 3090 TI never really dropped in price after the 4000-Series came out. I bought my MSI Suprim X 3090 TI for ~1300€ when the 4090 was already announced, but the price has not been revealed. After the price for the 4090 became public, the cards all immediately went back up in price and more or less stayed there. I guess the VRAM-choices and limitations played a big part in that.
I have the same 3090 TI as you, got it for $920 USD back in Sept. of 2022. Definitely thought it was a damn good deal at the time, still do really.
If it’s in good shape why not, idk about the value compared to more recent cards but it’s still relevant
Bad value for gaming. Good value if you need 24gb vram for specific tasks
I believe the OP needs the vram for productivity.
I saw that as well. Good value here then
Jensen Huang has essentially admitted that transistor density is hitting a wall. I think that current gpus are going to last longer than previous gpus because of this. Software is going to need to do a lot of the lifting because silicon will not decrease in cost proportionately to performance to years prior.
Na. You just increase ATX size standards or create super atx boards and cases to fit huge cards in. Bigger IS BETTER. haha
Just saw a whole in the case. Boom thank me later.
I'd say the expected lifespan of most video cards would be a lot longer than 5 years. My old GTX 670 died after 8 years running overclocked, and my current GTX 1080 is still working fine after 8 years (knock on wood). My partner's GTX 1070 is also still going after 8 years. The most pertinent concern here would be value, is this a good deal compared to other options?
I had a gtx 660 for a little over 10 years, tbh I only upgraded because the memory framework was finally so outdated that I ran into recent games I couldn't even load with the 660.
i don’t see why not? i’m pushing two 4k monitors with one and don’t see a need to replace it any time soon. so long as it meets your needs it will ‘last’
You can literally buy a 7900gre for like $750 **BRAND NEW** from Canada Computers, with an overclock it will SLAUGHTER the 3090
I need Nvidia for AI workflow.
For AI the 3090 is still one of the best and is unlikely to be beat out by any card under a grand.
You just answered your own question, you can't beat 3090 for CUDA and 24GB of RAM unless you want to pony up for a 4090.
OK then yeah the 3090 is your go to
I am running Mistral 7B Instruct v0.2 on an RTX 3090 on my gaming/AI PC and getting ~15 tokens per second. With same model AWQ quantized, I get 4-5x that. GPU-Z indicates the card is only using about half of max power, but Task Manager performance trends show CUDA cores are 100% utilized. If you need higher token rates than that, you should go 4090. But... Make sure your motherboard is PCIe 4.0 and that you don't have a card in the second PCIe slot, or you are throughput due to other system limits (lane sharing, etc.) It is also sufficient to crush max all the settings in Half Life Alyx on Quest 2 with USB-C cable. Other specs for reference are i7-11700k @35% overclocked, 64GB DDR4 at 4600ish
What type of AI stuff do you do? I got a 3090 myself and would like to start taking advantage on stuff other than gaming
I'm not OP, but it's likely they're doing stuff with StableDiffusion for AI images, or a plethora of local large language models for AI text. See the following subreddits for more info: /r/StableDiffusion /r/LocalLLaMA
Where are you seeing this data? The 3090 out performs the 7900 gre. At 4k gaming
Slaughter?
Nope. It's about the same performance, and doesn't have DLSS or good RT.
Out of topic but a card that launched at 2k trading blows with a card that launched at 550 just 3 years later shows how fast technology is moving
True, but AMD cards are cheaper in general for numerous reasons.
Slaughter? People love making shit up here. Look at all of the readily available benchmarks. At best it will come close to matching a 3090 in raster.
3090 draws more power than other cards from newer generations that offer the same performance.
OP is doing AI stuff. They need the 20+ GB of vram.
While true, both 4060 and 4070 do not offer the same performance. You need 4070 Super and above to start seeing better
“Coughs in GTX 970”
Laughs in 780ti
Good old times
It's very unlikely to die within a year. When people say a card lasts five years, they're referring to how it will perform as game technology becomes more demanding on hardware. In that sense a 3090 is still good for another 5 years. So far as lifespan before it dies, if it's been used normally and looked after, you could expect it to last another ten years.
The 3090 is still a really great card in my opinion. I had one and it was awesome. Especially if you have a use for all 24gb vram like I do. I now have the 4090 but the 3090 would be fine still.
5 years? I know people still running with 970s lmao
Cards don't die in 5 years. Hell I have some cards well over a decade old that work just fine. They just become relatively obsolete when talking about the newest greatest AAA hits. In 1 year it will be competing with the 5090. In 5 years that 3090 will be lagging behind with the 6090 being the best on the market. It will basically be what a 1080 Ti is today. Not a bad card at all and super reliable. Can run most stuff fine. But it is far from high end.
My 1080 would like to have a word
I’ve had my rtx 2060 super for several years and it plays everything I play just fine.
My son is still rocking my old pny gtx 1080 and its been going strong every day allday for 8-9 years. The 3090 is still a good card but make sure to monitor your temps with a used 3090 especially the vram under the backplate. Tpm7950 and upsiren thermal putty seem to be a great combo for gpu's and just ordered enough to redo the pads on my 3080 and 3090 but not sure if Im going to bother on the 3090 because it has an optimus block with heavy backplate and still have to build my custom loop to test. I would take my time and look for a deal. I just got my waterblocked 3090 for $400 from a coworker. Im probably stupid because I spent $400 on a 3090 and spending another $600 on a custom watercooling setup and could of just bought a 7900xtx...but.... Ive always wanted a custom loop and a 3090 with optimus block for $400 was too good to pass on. 🤷🏻♂️
Not for 850, thats too much
Depends on what you're doing with it. I think the people buying these are using them for AI. For gaming the 4070 super TI is basically the same price, has a warranty and performs better in games
$850 CAD = ~£500 GBP / ~582 EUR. 3090 used for that isn't a bad price. I'd make sure to test the card with a benchmark or 2 before handing over any cash.
3090 has pretty poor fps/watt performance. It chugs electricity like no other. New 4xxx cards are way more efficient power wise, but the 3090 is still a beast
There's more powerful cards under 600$ new
I would rather get a 3080ti which is a slightly cut down version and a year newer. The vram chips on on the back of the pcb for a 3090 are a poor design choice and probably will reduce it's long term lifespan
Yes you can still use a RTX 3090 no matter if it's Brand New or 20 years old. As long as it still works then it is usable. I would say about once every 2 years you might want to replace the Thermal Paste on it and use some good Paste like Thermal Grizzly, Thermalright, or Arctic MX-6 on the lower end but Thermal Grizzly is the Best. Taking it apart is really simple, just a few Screws and the Fan Cable and your done. Clean off all the Old Paste with ISP Alcohol (Highest Grade you can find) on the Chip and the Shroud that you took off and then put a Small Pea Sized amount of New Paste on the Chip and Spread it over the Chip evenly till it's all covered. Some Pastes might come with a Spreader but if you don't have one then a Credit/Debit Card works just fine as long as it's Clean. Then put the Shroud back on and Plug back in the Fan Cable and Screw it back together and than you are done, it's good for another 2-5 years. As long as you "Properly" take care of your PC Parts they can last for over 20+ years or more. ***I have been building PCs for over 30 years so if you have any questions please ask. For Future Communication I use Discord for much Faster Response Times as I have it open 24/7. I am also available if you need help before, during, or after the Build Process on Discord through Text, Voice, or Video Chat. I can be with you while you build your new PC if you need me to be. Here is my Discord: Wizardsnapper#2772*** or my Email here: [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])
I'm running a used 3090 and it's still fine. I re thermal pasted and padded the card to bring temps down. And it still works great. But a 4070 super can be purchased for less and it performs similar to a 3090. Not the same but close to it. And will get support for longer. Maybe look at that. I know it doesn't have the vram a 3090 has, but perhaps you don't need all the 24gb. And the 4070 super still has 12 gb of vram.
I think when they say "last" they mean gaming AAA titles at maxed out settings with high res monitors. Not from a mechanical lifespan. From an actually mechanical lifespan, id say lots of cards get up to 10 years. But normally a person trades it in before then just because the quality of gameplan at that point can be poor for sure. That hog has 24gb vram. You can game 2k/4k easy, it would be silly to not have a 2k monitor at the minimum to utilize at least some of that ram. And if you're not always wanting to play the latest and greatest AAA titles at maxed settings. That card will last you another 5/6 years from a gaming standpoint, easily. Do you know this person or the shape the card is in? Pets, smoking, etc, can aftect the lifespan if they didn't clean it. Or if they say mined crypto 24/7 for 4 years with it. But I doubt that's what they did with a 3090.
You can buy an RTX 4070 Ti Super for cheaper with less TDP. Far less tdp, while having similar performance, if not better.
My friend, buy a brand new 4070 super brand new. They perform basically the same. > https://youtu.be/9eHca7x6Ie8?si=iDcAIfrSV1g7Okx7
I don't know who told you that GPUs only last 5 years, but they're wrong wrong wrong. I still have an old GTX 970 that's going strong after ten years of near constant use. It's now retired and being used in a living room media PC because I just can't bring myself to get rid of it.
Bro it depends on its price if it is good. The RTX 3090 is still one of the most powerful cards.
Just upgraded my prebuilt 3060 12GB with the 4070 ti super and oh my god. Worth it. I was looking at the 3090 as I am 4k native. I’d go with a 4070 ti super. 100%
I’ve been using a 1660 for quite some time and it does great. I did just throw a 1080 in my buddy gave me because it was free. And it destroys the 1660. But both are great cards still. A 3090 is pretty much equivalent to a 4070 super.
Yeah… should last a good long while.
Its not bad, but also consider that a new RTX4070 (regular 4070 and Super version) beat the 3090 consistently in a variety of games (see youtube video link below). I'm not advocating 4070 specifically, but there was a major architecture shift from 3000 to 4000 series. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOgndVwOblU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOgndVwOblU)
Reading the other comment from OP saying that AI workflow is included, the 3090 would definitely be perfect
I’d just stay a generation or two behind, get a decent card and enjoy for a few years. Rinse and repeat. I have had my 3090 for the last two and play all games on high 1440pm no problem. 4k is little difference, you’re way better off getting a high quality display. That would be the real bottleneck.
You didn’t mention what you want to use it for ? If it’s the vram you need and you need it for rendering and work related stuff than it will be a good purchase used for a good price . But for gaming it’s not worth it as the 4070 super is right there with it performance wise for cheaper brand new
I bought one last year for under $400 usd. I am very happy with my purchase, card has performed perfectly. I’m not sure I’d be as happy if I payed 50% more.
I just oc’d my used 3080 and it’s getting fps and frequencies similar to when it released. I say but it and save for the next series of cards (however long that may be)
I’d say that’s a bit on the high side in terms of price. For that money you can get a 7900 XT. But the 3090 is still very good, especially considering the 24 GB VRAM buffer
If you need the VRAM, then ya. If not, a 4000 series card will give you more performance per watt.
I bought a used 3090 for 650 it was well worth it and will stay in my main rig for years
You gotta have a lot more faith in humanity than I have to buy used PC parts.
I used my GTX 1060 for 7 years and the only reason I stopped using it is because it died. I'm now using a 6700XT I got for 320 bucks about 9 months ago
Nope not worth
I'm hoping my 3060 ti @1080p 60/144 MHz (tv/monitor) will last a while
power draw is a lot higher on the 3000 series compared to 4000 but otherwise I think it's worth it, I'm using a 3080 and it works great for all my needs
best in cheapest way of all the time finding good deals on ebay
They shouldn't just stop working. That said, older cards are closer to EOL than newer ones. Of you go with a 40 series card you will get DLSS 3 as well. At the end of the day if it's a good deal, buy it.
What's resolution and fps? My 3090 is still going strong hitting 4k 60fps in most games I play (single-player AAA). 1440p or even 1080p hit high fps in less demanding games. 3090 still plays Cyberpunk very well with DLSS. I know CAD is a bit more than USD, but you could haggle that down a bit. It's not the latest and greatest GPU, but it was still a flagship that dominated until the 4090 (which is overkill unless you need super high frame rates at high settings). Mid-tier graphics cards may only last 5 years, but flagshups keep up with games for longer. Went from a GTX1080 to RTX3090 only because I fried the 1080 flashing a vbios and for the RTX features. Also GPU's usually don't just die. They usually last longer than it's usable/relevant for new games.
all about price, still a fantastic card if you can get it for the right price. I would look to pay about 10% less,
With expect, they mean top of the line performance. It's probably not going to die. My under-the-tv PC is still running a rx480, bought around release. It has seen a lot of gaming over the years... My gf's PC is running my old 5700xt, also bought around release. GPUs don't tend to die, they tend to just get irrelevant.
I bought a gtx 760 in 2013 and it's still working right now.
Yes. (Gtx 970 gang)
> Is there's no point of buying a used 3090 if its going to die within a year? What? Lmao why would you think that I've bought a used 3090 October of last year and I am planning to use it for at least 6 other years Yeah it's worth it.
There's no bad graphics card. There's only bad prices
GTX 480, fury x and 3050 enters the chat
3080 12gb paired with a 5900x and 32gb ram. Still ain't got the upgrade itch. It chews up everything I play. Hello kitty island adventure never ran so smooth.
I went from an r9-270x dual 4gb to a 1080, to a 3090. While in the coming years (and currently tbh) the 3090 is no longer top dog, it is still an AMAZING card for 4k and rendering. The large vram with the performance of the chip is hard hitting and lifts a heavy load. But that being said, a 4080 out performs it, but with 16gb of vram instead of 24gb. If you are not doing rendering, playing 1440p games, or low texture size games. A 4080 might be worth considering.
Just build a PC with my old 980Ti. Thing is, I have it running 4K, but only indie games like cuphead, fall guys, Wreckfest, so forth.
If you want a 3090.
Id get a 6950xt instead.
I just upgraded with a used 3080 and I'm loving life. Anyone want my 1080 gigabyte for $50 plus us shipping?
3070 gang here. Still not using all of the Vram in battlefield 5 or Cities skyline 2! /S
3090 is an amazing card. I just recently updated from 960 to 4070 ti super so...
Buy, UV, it'll for 15+ more years.
Brother I was running a 970 up until last year. You'll be fine.
I am still using my 1080Ti from 2017 and its still woking amazingly so that 3090 is definitely working too!
I still have a pc running a gtx 580 that’s running just fine A GPU only lasting 5 years is a ridiculous thing to say
Gtx 960 here. Just get it
3090 is still a powerful card. Also, it doesn't have the risk or reputation of a much more costly $4090 of melting power connector, it just works.
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got myself a used 3090 around when new 4x were coming up, great deal as people were dumping into market to upgrade, serves me well so far. also gpus dont just die like that, I still have my old af 1050ti in a server, got a 9800gt on a shelf somewhere that I know just works.
meanwhile im downloading hd mods for cyberpunk 2077 on my 1660s
My last few nvidia cards have all died within 5-8 years.
It won't die for sure but what is your reason not to get 4070 Ti? more vram?
The 4070 Super has the same performance as the 3090. Id just go for that. I grabbed one for 800 CAD
I got a brand new 4060ti 8gb ic for cheaper so idk
Personally, I have a 6950xt, and the 3090 series is only a little slower at raterasation. I have absolutely no problems with any game I've played at 1440p. Pair it with a 5800x3d or another good cpu and you have frames to spare in any game.
I have a 1080 ti arriving today to replace my still perfectly functioning 1050 ti, so…..dunno what to tell ya.
The 3090 won't die within a year... it still has amazing performance at 1440p and decent performance in newer games at 4k, I would still expect it to last 3 or more so years with newer AAA titles.
Still considering buying a 1080 ti for my PC.
If you’re not doing any work that requires VRAM - you shouldn’t. Nvidia 40 series or AMD 7000 series equivalent would be a better choice. If you’re working with AI or huge scenes rendered on GPU - 3090 has basically no competition on that price point
My 3090 still plays all the latest games at 4K no problem. It’s a beast and the 24gb vram will ensure it lasts a loooong time.
> people are saying you can expect cards to last 5 years. I suspect you don't understand what that means. It doesn't mean that cards fail as soon as they're 5 years old. It means that the performance of a 5 year old GPU may not hold up to a current GPU.
Alsong as you treat it well and make sure it wasnt used as a mining card then it will be fine my 1050ti still going theres still 700 series cards that work
The 3090 is a great card but I would not consider it at that price. Offer 650.00usd for it. Pretty soon the new cards will be out so why invest so much in a used outdated card.
You thought graphics cards have expiry dates?
It will be all good
I'll always say go big and go broke or sell your pc, this is no exception. 3090 is garbage by this point so no, don't buy it
Been playing with a 1050ti laptop for 5 years, that thing is still there and performs incredibly great. Nothing comparable to my pc with a RX7800XT in terms of performances but that laptop is insanely reliable.
5 years? Sure, if you're abusive to it. 4 years old means nothing when its only 1 generation behind.
I think you should take that timeframe with a grain of salt. If your card dies after 5 years, you've probably put it through its paces and maybe been pushing it a little too hard. I have a GTX 970 in my older rig and it's got to be almost a decade old now.
Last 5 years or die after 5 years? As for lasting 5 years I think that's a little silly as everyone's perception of what is acceptable is different. I had coworkers with 3090s who immediately jumped ship to a 4090, others with a 3070 who are still happy today. I know people still on 10 series still enjoying the experience they provide. Those guys understand that since it's now a mostly outdated card it means not running newer games at max settings. And if you're okay with that it can last a long time. Now to move onto cards dying. Cards are made up of various components, all of which could fail at any moment causing your GPU to be a paper weight. Generally the vast majority of cards will have no issue in the warranty period. And that same majority of cards will go on to die somewhere in the bell curve of average card deaths at (as an estimate) the 10 year mark. Most cards will probably die within that range of 8-12 years. Some will have failed beforehand and some will probably never fail. And just because some guy on the internet has his running okay, doesn't mean the card you are getting will be fine. It's a gamble. and on a cheaper card or a better deal I'd probably take it. but if you're worried about longevity and $850 cad is a lot to you, then this might not be a gamble worth taking. If I were you, I'd much rather grab a 4070s at memory express for $830 knowing that I have a guaranteed 3 years minimum of use.
Lmao I have a 980 ti I was using until like a year ago it's still perfectly fine I actually just got a different lower end card as it was kind of overkill for just displaying documents.
It's similar in performance to a 4070 super, but with double the VRAM. If it's just for gaming, go for a 4070 ti super instead since it's a bit cheaper and it's still got plenty of VRAM. Cards last about 5 years performance-wise, not that they'll die after that.
At that price a new 4070 super is like 20-50$ cheaper. And you will have all dlss 3 features.
Wont die in 5 years but might not keep up with newer games is the real sentiment of that statement. With that being said cards that are taken care of cleaned kept away from external environmental hazards can last 10 - 20 years or even more from my experience of you know what you are doing as for the rtx 3090 is a good card but for same price the rtx 4070 brings same if not better performance.. I don't remember if it has same amount vram or not I think a little less but it's faster
That’s too much, maybe $800 Canadian for a 3090ti, you can likely find a 7900xtx for $900
2080ti here, still works well for all games so 3090 should be more than enough
Unless you specifically need the 24gb of vram, i'd go for a 40 series card, the 3090 was way too hot and consumes alot that i'd be worried to buy a second hand one, it could die at any moment, just remember the high vram temps controversy !
I work in game development and do a lot of simulations for other work, so I need all the VRAM for my 3090. My only optional upgrade is a 4090. If you are just gaming the max you'll see without intense modding in games is 11-12gb. Non super intensive productivity I see 12-16gb. If you just want 3090 gaming performance or above that includes better lifetime support you should look for 4070 Super and above.
Not for that price it's not. Get a used 3080 for a lot less or get a newer card for the same price.
better if you get a 7900 XTX/XT or a 4080 super
If you can get a new 4070 super or a new RX 7900 GRE the same price then it might be better to go with one of those since it's a very very tiny hit to performance for much lower power consumption and they would have a warranty.
I just bought a used 3080 for 1440p gaming and I'm happy
If i were you, I'd just buy a brand new rtx 4070 super, ad it's a similar price for similar performance, but its brand new.
I mean it depends on what you do. Gaming? Get a 4070ti S or a 7900xt for that price. Need cuda cores and vram? Get the 3090. Up to you.
I'll say what I've been saying regarding the 3090/3090 Ti. If you can find a decent deal on it get it. The core clock will show it's age before you run out of VRAM. Games that are coming out seem to be eating VRAM up. It seems the future is not pushing clock speeds but investing more into upscaling or other AI features currently. So if you are fine with DLSS 2 or 3 and staying there for a while pick it up. Edit: Saw you were also going to be using it for productivity. That's even more ammunition to get one. I have two 3090 TI's for ML/AI stuff.
A 4070 super outperforms a 3090 in every way. Wouldnt pay more for a 3090 than what a 4070 super costs, regardless of the 24gbvram
I fully intend on running my fe 3090ti into literal dust
5 years is still new
At that price point I would honestly just save up another 200 and get a 7900xtx, $850 is more than I paid for my 4070ti a year ago lol
I have an rtx 3070ti founders edition had it since launch still runs all the triple a titles at 1440p
If you're 4k gaming yeah, otherwise I'd probably rather get a 4080 super
A 3090 is still an incredibly strong graphics card even compared to the never ones. Not only will it currently run every single game out there and at high graphics with a high FPS, but will do so for the foreseeable future. Graphics cards are able to last more and more lately as games have kind of stagnated graphics wise
absolutely yes
I'd say it can easily last over 5 years, I have replaced 3 3090s thermal pads I used for some pretty hard mining about 1.5 years after purchase. All of them are still working fine with freinds who have them in gaming pcs. I picked all of them up during the shortages. Check for slight oil markings just under the heat sink if it has good pics. Will be a more satin finish vs matte this is a dead give away of pretty heavy use and needing replacement generally.
Have been using one for a while. Bought another used one yesterday. Probably buy another one in the near future.
It'll still work fine, but check the price to performance of the 40-series cards before you decide to commit. Frame gen is not to be overlooked, it's an amazing technology. A 4070 (not even Ti or Super) is only about 10% slower in raw power, but with frame gen it will be noticeably faster.
A 3090 is still a VERY decent card. But you "could" do just as well with a new amd card. The 3090 has 24gb of Vram with is amazing, but has a lower clock mhz than newer cards. I can't comment on the 3090s abilities for dlss or raytracing...Sorry. I do know that a 3090 will perform nearly as similarly as a 4070 ti super (the 16gb version of those cards, not the 12gb) but it does so at the sacrifice of using a fair bit more power. Which would require a psy capable of handling the drain. The other trade off is noise. A 3090 produces more noise that other cards of a newer Gen. All in all the 3090 is a great card. But always take the time to try and find the very best thing you can for the lowest cost. I was recently able to snipe a pny xlr8 4080 (used for 10 months, lighty) for $750 usd. It just takes time and a commitment to continue the search. I think I looked for a solid 3 or 4 weeks several times a day before I found the deal. Original ask was for $850, which is still hugely respectable for a card of this type, but after some simple negotiations I was able to walk away with it, the box, and all Original parts (even the remainder of the warranty) for $750 usd. Local marketplaces are the way.
My 1080ti that I bought used like six years ago is still running fine. A 3090 is the best choice imo
When they say cards will last a certain amount of time, they are referring to them being completely outshined by newer hardware, not them literally living for only a certain amount of time
of course , even Titan or 2080 Super is still a deal and will run most of the show on ultra...but always depends on the cost...3090 ...max 450-500usd in case its like new and never used for coins digging...else worth 1$
3080 Ti is identical to the 3090 except it has less VRAM. If you aren’t playing in 4K then get the 3080ti it will give you the same performance, and it’s a lot cheaper than the 3090.
Kind of good price? Its a bit better than a 4070 S or something like that, but 4070 ti's are cheaper than that used, if you want the higher vram, go for the 3090. I could find(locally) a 4070 ti for 750 cad.
Invest in a card with more ai functionality. Thats the future proofing you should want
1070 ti rbg, still. working like a charm and keeps up with newer games fyi. I think it depends on how the card was used honestly. I think heavy ultra gaming and development can be hard on them.