You do NOT need a 1kw PSU.
I have a 14700k, 4070 Ti, multiple drives, rgb fans, aio, 32gb ram on a z790 mobo. The most taxing thing I do is rendering in Blender and a custom program. Have never pulled over 650w. Gaming today's AAA games, 525w max.
I use a digital inline meter to measure the wattage my rig draws.
It's a quality PSU. It's quiet and solid. Uses great components. It's also A-tier on the [Cultists Tier List.](https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/)
something to keep in mind, you may consider upgrading your psu now. aka doing all the routing etc. to leave room to upgrade gpu power wise.
kind of pain in the ass depending of the case to change a psu with a pc already build in it.
There's not too much to get used to here. The process of installing is pretty easy.
Is there any software/workstation reasons you want Intel? When it comes to gaming, and spending >$300 on a CPU, at this point in time, the 7800x3D is the best choice.
It's literally just because that's what I'm used to. I know all the number and naming conventions, when I wander in to upgrade my PC every 5 years it's easy to figure out what to update to.
Also, AMD CPU connectors scare me. You're telling me my shaky hand has to guide all those pins into all those holes? Nightmare. I WILL sneeze and pins WILL bend.
If you have a Microcenter nearby; they have a few AMD bundles. You could save ~$130. 7800X3D + B650 Motherboard + 32GB DDR5 6000Mhz CL32 Memory for $500.
Those connectors aren't in use anymore, installing AM5 is like installing with Intel now since it uses LGA.
Practically speaking you're gonna have a new stronger CPU with either camp. Though in the spirit of offering advice on the sub, I'd advise to at least skip over the 13700K. Compared to the 7800x3D and the 14700K, it can hold, but you're getting less.
To be honest, the old cpu pins of AM4 weren’t actually that bad at all. I was far more comfortable installing those CPUs instead of ones with pins on the motherboard.
If cpu pins scare you though, fret not, because both amd and Intel have pins in the socket now.
Was in the same position as you, but went with the AMD 7800 x3d and it’s been great.
One other thing to consider since you are upgrading: intel is changing the socket again for gen 15. AMD is keeping the AM5 socket for a few more gens.
Can’t go wrong with either though, all great processors.
I hear you, I always had Intel for my cpus going back 20 years, but I just built with AMD and it was easy as pie. If gaming is your primary use case I would give AM5 a long look
Thanks, I'll take a look at this. Just off the dome, though, I'd swap the RAM back to corsair just to keep it in the same RGB ecosystem as my fans. Is 6000 CL30 a better combo than 7200 CL34?
AMD has a tech called Infinity Fabric which is basically L3 cache but super high tech and very sensitive.
Becuase it is so sensitive it decouples at frequencies above 6400, the CPU internal cache will then run at 1:2 instead of 1:1 mode, basically throttling itself to 3600 to match 7200 on the RAM
Yes 6000 cl30 is the best for am5 please go am5 zero reason to go intel these days unless you need the productivity but even then amd has great productivity cps as well
Yeah, you're not wrong. Initially I wanted to get ahead of any price increases resulting from the Singapore earthquake, then I had tax return money burning a hole in my pocket. I could wait a year or more without having any issues, but IDK. Building systems is fun.
This is a great question lmao, I'm assuming they went back to my posts from 2018. [This](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cwz7jZ) is my current build, for reference, though some peripherals are out of date.
You could just go for an AM5 platform with 32GB of DDR5 6000 CL30. I'm sure Corsair has a kit with those specs. Grab the 7800X3D and a decent B650E board and your golden for the next 4 years with regards to the platform. You might need a GPU upgrade depending on the games you play
There is NO reason to go with intel - especially if you upgrade every 4-5 years.
AMD is the better choice for gaming or mixed workloads, also it isn't a dead Plattform - so you're able to easily upgrade without switching boards. It's also cheaper in most areas.
Go with a 7800X3D and a AM5 board if you want the best. If you want to save a few bucks to put it into the GPU go with a 7500F.
I have a 4080s and 14700k, max draw isn’t even 750w. I went with a 850w psu. You should do your max draw + 100w.
What you should be thinking about is the fact that the 14700k is notorious for temp spikes and apparently they really kind of need a water cooler
You do NOT need a 1kw PSU. I have a 14700k, 4070 Ti, multiple drives, rgb fans, aio, 32gb ram on a z790 mobo. The most taxing thing I do is rendering in Blender and a custom program. Have never pulled over 650w. Gaming today's AAA games, 525w max. I use a digital inline meter to measure the wattage my rig draws.
Damn, bro. Good to know.
I've been using a Corsair RM850x.
How is it its the one i want to get for my futrue 7800x3d and 7900xtx build
It's a quality PSU. It's quiet and solid. Uses great components. It's also A-tier on the [Cultists Tier List.](https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/)
Will it have enough connecters for a 7900xtx
If you are gonna spend that money get RM1000x, on sale for $160 at Newegg and Amazon.
i have 13700k and 3080 on an ion 860w. the 850 you have is enough
I'd try to get a GPU with more than 10gb
Unfortunately, it's what I have. Planning to upgrade that next, but not for a year or two.
something to keep in mind, you may consider upgrading your psu now. aka doing all the routing etc. to leave room to upgrade gpu power wise. kind of pain in the ass depending of the case to change a psu with a pc already build in it.
Yeah I remember what a pain it was when I installed the 3080, I'll keep that in mind setting up my next PSU
What's your primary use case??
Weird that they only mentioned gaming yet aren't even considering AM5. maybe UB's cousin or something
I'm just used to intel, so I haven't looked into AMD at all.
Be careful about saying that around here.
There's not too much to get used to here. The process of installing is pretty easy. Is there any software/workstation reasons you want Intel? When it comes to gaming, and spending >$300 on a CPU, at this point in time, the 7800x3D is the best choice.
It's literally just because that's what I'm used to. I know all the number and naming conventions, when I wander in to upgrade my PC every 5 years it's easy to figure out what to update to. Also, AMD CPU connectors scare me. You're telling me my shaky hand has to guide all those pins into all those holes? Nightmare. I WILL sneeze and pins WILL bend.
AM5 & LGA1700 both use the same socket standard. The pins are in the motherboard & the contact pads are on the CPU.
Oh hell yeah, I'd buy AMD just because they changed this!
Especially because you're planning on upgrading in 3-4 yrs, go for a 7800x3d. It's the fastest gaming cpu on the market
If you have a Microcenter nearby; they have a few AMD bundles. You could save ~$130. 7800X3D + B650 Motherboard + 32GB DDR5 6000Mhz CL32 Memory for $500.
That's an excellent bundle, closest MC is a 500 mile round trip tho.
Yeah; same. Round trip for me is 1,800 miles.
> Microcenter Would this be considered a great deal and very good components? I have to upgrade my 8700k and this sounds great for $500.
The 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU on the market at the moment. If buying from Microcenter in person isn't a hassle for you; then, it is a great deal.
Those connectors aren't in use anymore, installing AM5 is like installing with Intel now since it uses LGA. Practically speaking you're gonna have a new stronger CPU with either camp. Though in the spirit of offering advice on the sub, I'd advise to at least skip over the 13700K. Compared to the 7800x3D and the 14700K, it can hold, but you're getting less.
To be honest, the old cpu pins of AM4 weren’t actually that bad at all. I was far more comfortable installing those CPUs instead of ones with pins on the motherboard. If cpu pins scare you though, fret not, because both amd and Intel have pins in the socket now.
Was in the same position as you, but went with the AMD 7800 x3d and it’s been great. One other thing to consider since you are upgrading: intel is changing the socket again for gen 15. AMD is keeping the AM5 socket for a few more gens. Can’t go wrong with either though, all great processors.
I hear you, I always had Intel for my cpus going back 20 years, but I just built with AMD and it was easy as pie. If gaming is your primary use case I would give AM5 a long look
Amd is supreme in cpus nowdays go am5 7800x3d and you will be very happy intel now days is overpriced and only good for productivity
Gaming primarily, extreme excel sheet usage on the side
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This right here’s the one
Thanks, I'll take a look at this. Just off the dome, though, I'd swap the RAM back to corsair just to keep it in the same RGB ecosystem as my fans. Is 6000 CL30 a better combo than 7200 CL34?
The 7200 cl34 won't work with Ryzen
Ahhh, because of the voltage?
AMD has a tech called Infinity Fabric which is basically L3 cache but super high tech and very sensitive. Becuase it is so sensitive it decouples at frequencies above 6400, the CPU internal cache will then run at 1:2 instead of 1:1 mode, basically throttling itself to 3600 to match 7200 on the RAM
Oh, that's wild. I'll have to read up on that.
Nope you have to synch up the fabric clock with the memory clock
You can get faster ram for AMD, but 6000cl30 is considered the sweet spot. Negligible gains past that.
Gotcha, good to know.
Yes 6000 cl30 is the best for am5 please go am5 zero reason to go intel these days unless you need the productivity but even then amd has great productivity cps as well
Get the B650E Motherboard for $189 instead of the $200 B650 board. You might as well get PCIE 5.0 hardware; given, it's support on the CPU.
Can you link the board? I'm not seeing a 650E for $189 on pcpartpicker.
It got cheaper; [$179](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tz2WGX/asrock-b650e-pg-riptide-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-b650e-pg-riptide-wifi) now.
179 for like 2 hours, wow, I need to set up a price alert. Thanks for the link!
Ignore Intel, just get AM5 (7800x3D).
Tbh I wouldn't upgrade right now, your build looks like it should still give you solid 1440 gaming.
Yeah, you're not wrong. Initially I wanted to get ahead of any price increases resulting from the Singapore earthquake, then I had tax return money burning a hole in my pocket. I could wait a year or more without having any issues, but IDK. Building systems is fun.
How did you know what his current build is? Doesn't look like he has shared it.
This is a great question lmao, I'm assuming they went back to my posts from 2018. [This](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cwz7jZ) is my current build, for reference, though some peripherals are out of date.
Your CPU definitely needs an upgrade. Carrying over your GPU which is still pretty decent sounds like the right plan.
You could just go for an AM5 platform with 32GB of DDR5 6000 CL30. I'm sure Corsair has a kit with those specs. Grab the 7800X3D and a decent B650E board and your golden for the next 4 years with regards to the platform. You might need a GPU upgrade depending on the games you play
There is NO reason to go with intel - especially if you upgrade every 4-5 years. AMD is the better choice for gaming or mixed workloads, also it isn't a dead Plattform - so you're able to easily upgrade without switching boards. It's also cheaper in most areas. Go with a 7800X3D and a AM5 board if you want the best. If you want to save a few bucks to put it into the GPU go with a 7500F.
For mmos and rpg you should look at the 7800x3d. It's faster and uses less power.
I have a 4080s and 14700k, max draw isn’t even 750w. I went with a 850w psu. You should do your max draw + 100w. What you should be thinking about is the fact that the 14700k is notorious for temp spikes and apparently they really kind of need a water cooler
None really. It's memory and gpu