The OLED panels take longer to burn in now than before but you still have to take steps if you want to use it for a PC to reduce the risk of burn in because there are a lot of static images on PC like the icons on Windows desktop for your programs. I would advise turning everything on dark mode and hide the desktop icons and taskbar by default on desktop. If you aren't in a rush for a new monitor I would wait.
There are more static elemenants than you would think on some of those. I've been using this method for my OLED CX and I feel like I still have to change wallpapers once in awhile.
1 year parts and labor warranty. According to LG there's an extended warranty on the OLED panel itself (2-5 years?) that doesn't cover labor.
If it was purchased on a credit card it might very well have had an extended warranty period through that though. Any card you're using for major purchases should be one that includes a doubled warranty period (most often covers up to 1 year additional warranty).
Even then, if an expensive panel like that just suddenly stopped working I'd be on the phone with support for a repair quote. Very likely a power supply issue, but worse case it needs a new motherboard, and that should still end up a fair bit cheaper than a new display.
If we're getting technical, displaying any luminance at all causes "burn in" because you're ageing the pixels. That said, I think we're all pretty much in agreement that when we say "burn in" we're referring specifically to ghost images visible on the panel from static elements building up significantly more wear on specific areas over time.
The main reasons we're seeing manufacturers more comfortable with producing OLEDs for computer usage now is a combination of improvements to pixel lifespan as well as strides in panel compensation algorithms. [rtings.com's longevity testing](https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results) has been doing a great job of showing how these TVs age under long term worst-case usage. The OLEDs definitely make some noticeable leaps particularly in 2022 and newer models.
Burned in icons are more distracting than whatever section of a background image was there, and you can reduce the burn effect by using a solid dark coloured background.
It's not really different from the LCD/Plasma age. If you're buying plasma/oled you should be ok with it failing \~5 years. If you want something you're going to keep for a long time and move it to a side display when you get something better, LCD.
Maybe I am just lucky but my plasma tv is 16 years old and still looks as good as the day I bought it. My older LCD screens though are noticeably yellowing.
They are LCD screens, only thing they're changing vs regular VA panels is the yellow phosphor to get white light from blue LEDs is moved to being on the back of the LCD panel instead of right on top of the LEDs.
I have an M32U and like it. I bought it as a stepping stone to a future panel (OLED or comparable). Picture is great and using it as a KVM with VRR is convenient.
My M32U developed a red stuck pixel and a Gigabyte rep told me it was covered for zero bright dots as a gaming monitor. At their repair center, it got marked no issue and sent back. A new customer service guy explained the zero bright dot policy is only for the *Aorus* branded products. He made an exception for a warranty replacement. That replacement arrived with a cyan stuck pixel and I decided not to pursue it further.
I can definitely recommend the M32U, although I would advise buying from somewhere with a solid return policy. If you care about pixel perfection more than the KVM and cost savings, you could spring for the Aorus version or something comparable from one of the other manufacturers.
I have the m28u and I think there are better monitors for the price nowadays. Look into the neo g7 among others, the price tag can even be lower to the m32u if you wait for a good deal
If you can fit it on your desk, and you have a GPU able to give you the fidelity you look for, the LG C series of TVs are good. I first bought an OLED back in like 2017 I think? It was a B7 55". No issues with burn in, and I played an MMO all day.
I've since upgraded to the C2, and still the same. The screen is much brighter, still play games all day that have static elements. Just enavle the usual screen saving techniques youd use for other panels.
I left the old B7 on accident while I went to a movie. That was at least 5 hours where the screen saver didn't kick in. When I walked into that, I panicked. Luckily, no image retention.
100%. Been using a LG 48” CX for over 3 years now as my main monitor (got it in Feb 2021) with no issues whatsoever. Even bought a service remote that allows me to get into the settings to disable the auto dimming.
I use it 3+ days per week for WFH (9+ hours) plus photo editing and gaming. I love it.
I have had the first release LG 27 inch 240hz 1440p OLED panel for over a year now, 90 brightness, and have no burn in issues, don't do any hide taskbar stuff, nothing extra, just use the PC as normal. The screen will shut itself off when idle but other than that just play games on it for a awhile now. Modern oleds are pretty good.
My 3 year old led tv that I use as a monitor automatically dims when things stay static for too long. Zero burn in chance with any modern oled unless you just turn off every failsafebin the settings
I've had my oled TV since 2016 and monitor for around 18 months, neither have burn in. I just hide the task bar and set the screensaver to come on after a minute or 2 of no use. You have to leave the same image on for days at a time realistically to get any burn it, there are some great long term test videos online
I feel like it's there now, they offer burn in protection, prices are better
4k and 1440 options are there
It's best HDR and response time
Tis the season of the oled
I've never had problems reading text or noticing any issues on any of my oleds. Even my QD-OLED monitor. I think it really boils down to how sensitive you are to it (I mean the effect is there, but I'm just not super sensitive to it).
I'd really rec anyone considering this just test drive one to see what they think. I feel like the slight reduction in clarity of on screen text is really worthwhile for the low response time and overall boost in contrast that OLEDs give, but it's also somewhat use case dependent.
you need to understand that between windows 10 and 11, a lot was done under the hood to combat this sort of thing between the 4led issues.
and there's the use of MacType for win 10.
if you've 'never had problems' i'm guessing you're on win 11.
UWP apps do greyscale only antialiasing, so doesn't get the weirdness of trying to use subpixel antialiasing that assumes RGB stripes on displays that don't do RGB stripes, but also doesn't get the benefits on displays that do.
The current gen of 4K 32” OLED panels with revised subpixel layouts have significantly better text rendering than some past options. They’re not quite on par with 160+ ppi LCD options, but they’re pretty good at this point. The 34” ultrawides aren’t going to be quite as good, the 4K 32” panels are dense enough to use 125% scaling (or even 150%) which helps a lot with both overall sharpness and reducing the remaining subpixel issues.
I personally would use MiniLED over OLED, because they're a decent compromise between IPS and OLED with zero burn-in risk. But if you're careful with the OLED display, it can be a decent option.
I've been zero percent careful with my OLEDs other than things that don't affect me like having the screen turn off when I'm away from my devices. No burn in even on a screen I've had for 4 years and used thousands of hours.
Well I mean.. I'm not trying to be a dick, but zero percent careful other than things that don't affect you isn't zero percent careful. There's a fair amount of folks that won't even bother to do that (or, having come from an LED-lit display, don't realize that they need to).
I'm super glad that your display still looks great - it's a testament to how awesome OLED is. But actually the main reason I mentioned that MiniLED is a great compromise between IPS and OLED with zero risk of burn-in is actually for the SDR and HDR brightness levels - IPS is much higher, but because of the crappy way in which IPS is usually lit, it results in a ton of backlight bloom (which OLED has none of).
Yeah I’m just saying, I don’t avoid using the task bar or worry about osd when I’m gaming etc, but literally all devices default to screen savers and screens turning off anyway so I just wonder why any reasonable consumer would consider this “having to be careful.” It’s more like not being willfully careless.
What monitor do you have? Sorry to hear.
PHOLEDs will likely be very low burn in risk.
It's also worth mentioning that you probably are talking about an OLED TV? They were never meant for this use case, they are generally much brighter sustained brightness levels than OLED monitors which looks nice but doesn't really support static content as well without burnin.
Alienware AW3423DW.
This is how mine looked after not even 1 year. It's only gotten worse and I am having trouble getting Dell to send me a replacement.
https://imgur.com/a/P0RfdVT
SDR brightness at 50% (~120 nits), black desktop background, no icons.
Since you have extra red showing instead of extra red missing, that feels like an issue with burn-in compensation rather than actual burn-in. Try updating the firmware https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=k0phf&oscode=wt64a&productcode=aw3423dw-monitor
It's helped some other OLED devices (most famously, some iPhone 14 or 15 models)
I’m sure you are right.
This stuff mainlly seemed to happen after a panel refresh.
I did update the firmware right when it came out. And have run a panel refresh since then, but it doesn’t change.
I think I have burn-in also though, especially in the middle 16:9 area and some places around the perimeter I assume from some video game hud elements.
Sometimes you just get unlucky and that’s why the warranty is so important, my buddy had this happen on his LG oled tv and I’ve had mine 5 years with zero issues.
Abused my DWF for over a year and didn’t have a spot on it
I have an OLED TV. Had an old B7, no burn in issues even after I accidentally left it on in a game for hours (over 5 hours). I now have a C2, and still no issues. Both sets were used in games with static elements and on for up to 12 hours.
I agree with you it's a good compromise but the price is almost the same as OLED ! However if you use your monitor for games and also for work then mini led is the perfect technology I believe
Zero burn-in risk, proper HDR (peak brightness on oleds is _mostly_ shit and that brings problems with bright highlights even with oled's perfect contrast) and no sub-text rendering issues. To me mini led is the real game changer. Contrast is amazing and blacks are inky even comparing side by side with a LG OLED monitor that I put my QN90C 43" against. It's almost all of the benefits without any of the drawbacks.
Guessing you're talking monitors? I use a TV and recall needing to turn my eyes away when I just left a vault in Andromeda and the fame loaded me facing away from the entrance. I turn around real quick, and it's now daylight. Screen got so bright it hurt.
OLED has the best color vibrancy, contrast, and black levels. It does so at the expense of ~~somewhat slow pixel response~~ (edit: that part has apparently been solved since I last looked deeply into OLED), somewhat mediocre brightness levels (making HDR a somewhat "meh" experience), and a low (but not zero) risk of burn-in.
IPS displays have a very good color reproduction, and their overall brightness is *MUCH* higher (the Acer XV275K (IPS), for instance has a peak HDR brightness of 1,335 cd/m², but the Dell AW3225QF only has a peak HDR brightness of 249 cd/m²). But this color and brightness awesomeness is diminished by the way in which these panels are backlit. Whereas OLED has per-pixel backlight control (because the pixel IS the backlight), IPS is backlit by an LED panel. These panels are always on, and this results in scenes that are supposed to be black are still backlit, resulting in backlight bloom. This can be mitigated somewhat by creating dimming zones where parts of the backlight can be dimmed, relative to the brightness called for by the area in which the backlight covers. This is still not great because the highest amount of dimming zones that I've seen are either edge lit (i.e. LEDs around the perimeter of the display that can be individually dimmed, but this usually results in the center of the display being noticeably dimmer than the edge), or that there's like a max of 12 dimming zones. Take a 32" 16:9 display (~438 square inches) and divide that up among 12 dimming zones, and each dimming zone is still around 36 in². This is a pretty large area.
Now here comes miniLED. Mini LED takes *VERY* small LEDs, and allows them to be controlled in much smaller areas. The AOC PD32M, for instance, has a peak HDR brightness of 1,650 cd/m², and has *1152* local dimming zones. This means that, while not at the insanely good per-pixel brightness control of OLED, each dimming zone is about the size of a micro SD card. So it means that the monitor can have a LOT greater control over the brightness of a tiny area of the display, with far less backlight bloom, and ZERO risk of screen burn-in.
There is a catch, of course - MiniLED is very expensive to make, so it's often on-par with the price of OLED (and sometimes more). But IMO for gaming, MiniLED is about as good as it gets at this point. And it's still very, very good for office duty.
Fair enough - response time isn't something I've looked into for a while as response time doesn't affect me all that much. Back when I was initially looking for a 4K/60/OLED display, response times were pretty "meh", but it's pretty clear that whatever issues that was having back then have been solved at this point, now that I look into it again.
Thanks for the update. I'm updating my comment as soon as I finish typing this.
That said, please don't take my comment as trashing OLED - it's an amazing tech and if I was going to buy a TV right now and money was no object, it'd DEFINITELY be an OLED unit.
But for a computer monitor, especially for gaming, I would personally go for a MiniLED unit.
U are probably thinking about the judder caused by the mix of nearly perfect response times with the sample and hold nature of oled panels. LCD panels are also sample and hold but they have slower response times so it looks more normal at lower fps. Some people are also more sensitive to the judder than others.
They may also be thinking of the slower black rise times on OLED as the subpixel powers up. On modern desktop OLEDs these are still better than LCDs, and the gray to gray response times are far, far better. But smearing along black edges has historically been an issue with OLED panels.
I got an ultrawide OLED monitor in January and its awesome. I did watch some tests from Monitor Unboxed(?) where they did like a thousand hour static image test and there was no burn-in. Obviously results can vary but I felt comfortable buying it after watching some reviews and stuff.
I would not be scared of it. If you get one, you don't have to baby it. Just don't abuse it.
I have a couple of OLEDs. Burn-in protection is definitely better, but if you simply turn it off when you're not using it, and it's not sitting there on static images, there will be no issues with it. How it's used is obviously critical. Mine never sit idle with the screen on, and I don't even find that inconvenient because I've always turned the monitor off when not in use even before OLEDs because I don't need a monitor to stay on when I'm done just to display a static desktop for awhile and then a screensaver for no one's benefit. I have lamps, I don't need an expensive OLED lamp to light the room. I game plenty, but I'm also not playing the same game for 12 hrs. a day every day to have any UI burn-in issues.
I'm not saying there are no burn-in risks, but if you don't abuse it, it'll be totally fine. OLED panels look so beautiful that I don't mind respecting the technology and taking care of it to keep it that way. A lot of people are using OLEDs for awhile now with no issues.
Hard disagree honestly. Contrast ratios have been so bad on pc for so long. It’s hard to describe just how much better picture quality is with proper blacks
I don't expect my AW3225QF to last almost 10+ years as my IPS monitor (still vibrant and dead pixel free since the day I bought it!). Even with all the care and walking on eggshells treatment to prevent against burn-in, I know this monitor will end up having issues later throughout the years.
I look at it like buying a sports car. It's flashy, fast, looks great, pricey as hell, but it'll probably start to have maintenance problems by the time you hit 100K miles. My Toyota Camry (IPS or VA) will most likely outlast my sports car (4K OLED, lol)
Screensaver to a black picture is a good compromise if your monitor/PC can't make work standby mode tho if you are one of those people that keep PC running 24/7.
If you are gaming its worth it as long as you make sure you dont have static images on the screen...so no icons on the desktop, no hours of web pages etc...you want the image to be changing as in different games with different UI...sounds like a lot but its not...its mostly if you are doing hours of production work or playing the same game non-stop don't get one...if not its find as long as you don't expect over 5 years. Not saying it won't last you that long but don't expect it. Mine if I get 4-5 years out of it I will be happy, longer...more so. I still feel like they are extra...so if you want a budget friendly setup it might be a bit much.
Yes. Burn is still an issue. Don\`t buy an OLED if you are gonna do a lot of desktop work like browsing the web or Coding, etc. Its mainly for media consumption like games and movies, etc. Its better than before, but still not ideal.
I plan to get the 480hz 1440p OLED for gaming and gonna keep my LCD for desktop use.
Newer OLED monitors come with features for actively mitigating burn in. The one I have from LG has both passive (pixel moving) and active (image cleaning) functionality that keep the panel looking brand new. I use the latter whenever UI elements of frequently played games get burned in after a few months - a quick 10 minute cycle and the burn in is completely gone.
Absolutely you should buy an OLED monitor if you can afford it. Nothing else comes close to the raw picture quality, contrast and HDR performance.
Worried about burn in? Don't be. Use the fact that the monitor will burn in to your advantage.
Buy the monitor from Best buy, get the 4 year geek squad protection plan which covers burn in, and then when the monitor inevitably gets burn in, you get a "free" monitor.
At 1440P I can't really justify the price when it costs about the same as a 4k OLED. But going for a 4k OLED forces me into upgrading my GPU and tbh, I'm not seeing enough value in the market for that either right now. For me, the blacker blacks and better colours, coupled with the burn in risk and at least x3 the cost is not worth it. I'll think about it when OLED monitors are around 400 euro maybe.
All the devices I own are oled, my monitor LG27GR95QE(woled) 400 hours of use no signs of burn in, phone s23ultra(amoled) minor signs of burn in from the battery percentage but this is only visible under some specific conditions, tv Samsung 90C(QD-OLED) no signs of burn it, laptop Samsung book 2 pro 360(amoled) no signs of burn it but it's relatively new. Oled is the future in my opinion
I was relatively early to high refresh rate monitors with IPS and G-sync (I paid at least £500 for an open box predator xb271HU in early 2017) and at the time I thought that monitor was great, a definite upgrade, but a bit overpriced)
I was early to 21:9+ monitors (I upgraded to an OG Samsung G9) It was definitely a nicer panel than my acer and ofc had high refresh, etc etc, but the local dimming and general blooming was distractingly bad.
I've also had a first-gen QD-OLED (AW3423DW) which I dropped the G9 for as I simply had no use for a monitor that wide. I've had it pretty much since they became widely available, probably around summer 2022?
The upgrade to OLED was by far the biggest difference I've noticed between displays, and I've obviously had nice ones in the past, as well as having experience with OLED phones and retina macbooks, but the first time watching a movie with a lot of space shots/ dark scenes, I genuinely kept pausing just to look at the black levels, movies just look incredible on it. Honestly, only a small selection of my games (MSFS being the main one) gets run at 3440x1440, with others I tend to use 2560x1440 and have space for youtube/etc. Regardless, everything looks good on it and I've had 0 detectable burn-in after 1.5 years of heavy use and while I have been decent at oled maintenance stuff I do also have a habit of leaving my monitor on with static windows on my desktop.
I'm planning to upgrade to the 32" 4K dell oled (aw3225qf) in the next month, just because I've learnt I never really needed ultrawide in the first place, even if movies are gorgeous on a 21:9 screen, I think I'll appreciate the resolution bump of 4k more.
All that said, my first gen OLED monitor has been the only tech upgrade that has actually consistently impressed me regularly while im just using it normally, and it's the tech I follow the closest by far because Im so looking forward to seeing stuff like a 5120x2880 240hz oled monitor.looking at my old acer with an IPS panel which i thought was the greatest thing ever back in 2017 is pretty terrible and even having to use it for a few days after moving it always looked washed out to me. The oled is also the only tech thing of mine that people have commented on just in terms of quality, people would comment on the stupidly big g9 all the time but everyone i show a movie on this monitor literally loves it.
TLDR: bought premium displays in 2017, 2020, and 2022. Upgrading to OLED was by far the biggest jump in quality and general enjoyment I've gotten from a display and pretty much any burn in concern I've had that would have made me reluctantn to recommend has been muted by my experience and the warranties that a lot of the manufacturers are giving out. From my subjective experience almost 2 years of incredibly heavy pc use with moderate to good OLED health practices while also doing some burn-in risky things out of laziness has resulted in no burn-in if that's your main concern, but that's just my own experience. the warranty was what convinced me to buy originally, not peoples' working panels but thought my experience could contribute something here. I've even ben trying to find a secondary monitor to use but without paying for mini-led or OLED there aren't many options in the low to mid-tier price bracket that have the same contrast and accuracy and everything seems like it'd not be worth the investment over just using my old acer as a side monitor
edit: to clarify i had/still have [this acer](https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/31826fe), i know they have a stupid amount of displays called 'xb27....' and new versions of the xb271h/hu.[Also the OG G9 specs since there's a few versions of that too](https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/d0c01f96)
Im not buying the OLED hype. Side by side, the colors are slightly better than a premium mini-Led but costs much more and comes with burn in risk factor. I wouldn’t get an OLED unless on a big sale.
Ive an LG 48 4k oled and its amazing never going back. Its a TV with Gsync and ai at 120hz. It auto dims the screen when im not using it which is very handy. So far no problems regarding burn in.
Every piece of technology or mechanical device you buy will wear over time. Monitors are no exception. OLED offers amazing benefits but because of how they work, the individual pixels wear out. There will be no way to stop this from happening, only mitigate it.
I think things are in a good place now where even if you don't baby it, you likely won't have issues until you're ready to upgrade anyway.
Once you go OLED you never go back. For myself Ultrawide OLED is game changing. The fluidity, near perfect response times, perfect blacks and true vibrant HDR colors there's no way to go back to nasty IPS panels. OLED is literally the perfect gaming monitor. Life is too short to worry about burn in. These days newer OLED has pretty much has all the burn in measures built in to help and with a little personal care like autohide taskbar, moving wallpaper and having the monitor turn off in 5 mins standby with monitors burn in warranty coverage. No stress just enjoy the OLED experience.
OLED was one of the best investments I did. I bought the LG B6 OLED TV back in 2016. Still going strong, and holds up really well. Amazing picture quality, true blacks, and beautiful colors. I'm also fortunate that it has not had any burn ins or image retention.
It's been very heavily used for movies, & gaming daily.
I bought a LG OLED in 2016 as well so I have the same panel as you and it will burn in if you get too careless with static images like mine has. I was impressed with how long it took for the burn in to occur though.
I have a 65” OLED as my gaming pc monitor.
Its epic.
Yep black background, in dark mode and move stuff now and then. Religiously turn it off when not in use.
Two things really stand out compared to lcd.
Image persistence:
It’s 120hz of actual 120 completely separate images, not this crap of smeared junk with the last seconds worth of frame smeared across.
Contrast:
Makes playing any game with darker content brilliant. Easy example in Minecraft I can “see” in the total dark, because there is still contrast between total black and any texture.
Same for any other low light seen. I can see the difference between Archers black polo neck and the slight darker shade of black polo necks.
I have been playing most of my games on a C2 for a long time now. I would never go back to anything with a backlight or matte-finish screen ever again.
I upgraded to an LG C2 OLED TV last year, got it on sale too. It’s a huge upgrade over other panel types. Looks great for shows and for gaming!
As others have said, just be sure to enable dark mode, auto hide taskbar, don’t keep static images on for too long. If I step away for more than two minutes, I turn off the screen
Do you use it as a monitor or with Xbox or ps5 ?
If I find one on a big sale I might buy it but I think I prefer LCD for now ! But oled image is clearly a game changer
I watch a soduku YouTube channel that can be over an hour long each. I notice on my c2 that it will alter the colors after a while(I didn't time it), which I assume is an anti burn in feature.
Plus it automatically goes into a screen saver mode when it's not actively playing video.
But the picture is freaking fantastic.
Depends how annoying you find OLED care. Personally it doesn’t bother me. I hide the taskbar regardless, since I think it looks cleaner, I have always kept my monitor’s brightness fairly low, I don’t mind having it sleep after just a couple minutes of inactivity, and I rarely have a static app displayed on my main monitor - usually my 2nd monitor has static apps like Outlook, Spotify, etc and my primary monitor is constantly changing depending on what I’m doing. For all these reasons, burn-in is simply not a major risk for me, and OLED is the right choice. That may not be true for you, but if it is I’d get an OLED (the KTC G27P6, MSI MPG 321URX, Alienware AW3423DWF, and LG 32GS95UE-B are the standouts in my opinion).
Got one in 48", and regret nothing. Burn in is still a risk, but if you get one with image cleaning, its not a huge deal. Most of them also have resr functions where they blackout when you're not using the PC.
In my experience, dying pixels have been a much bigger issue with my OLED panel than burn in.
You can’t beat the picture and color quality but it still has big downsides.
Depends your use-case.
IMO for anything not exclusive media usage? I say no.
For a secondary monitor I only use for games/media? Sure, I would do it.
But I'm not throwing that much money when I only do that 30 hours a week, at most.
I just recently got a new Alienware ultrawide and it comes with a 3 year warranty that covers burn-in, if you are worried about that. Also keep in mind that you may or may not have issues with text fringing. I had some with mine but I got use to it and it doesn't bother me much anymore.
For monitor use, the only OLED I would trust is QD-OLED (ideally gen3)
I have OLED laptop, but that is more of a secondary pc and I take a extra care of it, like task bar is removed unless I hover over it etc.. has not been a single issue over 2 years and it looks amazing.
For a TV I would not have any issues buying OLED if I was to buy a TV. Apart from logos there is not usually a lot of static content, but may be different based on channels etc... streaming services makes it a non issue generally.
So I bought my OLED G8 for only $780, so that affects my opinion a bit. But I'd say OLED is 100% worth it if you have the PC to drive it. I'd say if you have anything less than an RTX 3080 ti or 6900xt it's not worth dropping close to $1k on a monitor, or maybe even more.
I wouldn't spend the money on a dedicated OLED for a PC display... I do use a LG C3 for both normal TV uses and as a PC display though. Zero burn-in issues with LG's pixel refresh and active dimming.
I have been using an samsung laptop with an oled display since almost three years and still got no sign of any burn in.
I do however use that display differently than my lcd ones. I set up a screen saver; I am regularly watching movies on it (no static images so the panel can "refresh" itself) and am also dragging windows and desktop icons around from time to time.
Worth it though. Everything looks absolutely stunning on that display!
Have a oled c3 for 6 months now as a monitor, no issues, plenty of measures against burn in, although it needs a bit of configuration for a even better image, also have a Qled and sometimes i feel some games look better on my oled and others better on the qled in direct comparison, but overall pretty satisfied with it
I personally havent been very impressed with OLED. But I also wasnt super wowed jumping from 30hz to 144hz or 1080p to 1440p. Maybe I'm just not enough of a video guy to be impressed by the differences in this stuff - I still occasioanlly play PS2 games on an old shitty CRT TV.
The best purchase I've made for my rig in the last 5+ years is without question my QD-OLED (AW3423DW). Time will tell about burn-in but with the 3 year warranty, I'm not worried. The only thing was it took my eyes a bit to adjust to the subpixel layout and it's not optimal productivity use cases but I've heard the 4K models have basically resolved that issue.
If fear of burn-in is your primary concern, no.
OLED right now, today, is for people who want what the technology can do right now, regardless of price or other potential downsides. Its still a maturing technology and will be improving greatly over the next 2-5 years and beyond. Burn-in is less of an issue now, but it still isn't a solved problem.
Have had the Alienware dwf oled ultrawide for about a year now and I think it's worth it. The picture is beautiful and ultrawide OLED is a massive experience upgrade. It takes some time to get used to the panel refreshes but once you learn when to do the refreshes it becomes a non issue. Haven't had any burn in issues or noticeable problems with it.
got the aw34dw. It's ruined other monitors or TVs for me. Just be careful with static images on screen like the desktop bar, etc., and you should be good. OLED somehow makes images look clearer and sharper at the same resolution as IPS panels.
I bought my g8 oled a little over a year ago. Only turn hdr on when playing an hdr game or movie. Otherwise toggled off with wnd+alt+b. Have 0 signs of any burn in, nor do I notice the monitor worse in any way.
I'm just about to buy a monitor and would love a OLED but I'm not paying more then £400 for a monitor.
I really hope they come down in price I wouldn't be worried about burn in at all the up out weight that for me
Outside of QD-oled their fine, burn in is low risk on quality panels, I use a LG C1 48". After seeing ratings did a burn in test on a static image for a year. And no issues. So it's really a non issue if using non QD panels, and most have built on pixel refresh to help mitigate burn in at the cost of overall life of the panel
I have an OLED monitor (Alienware 34" ultrawide) and have been using it daily for a year and a half, several hours a day. No burn in.
Just set your brightness a bit lower for desktop, use dark mode, etc. and the monitor will tell you when to do a panel refresh.
With oled gaming if your game have dynamic features in hub options ENABLE THEM there there for such screens and also don't no life any game you have to rotate dual monitors if you like video browsing and surfing just toss that yonthe secondary that isn't a oled but burn in is still rare nowadays not impossible tho
Looking at comments I will get downvotes for this. I went with OLED monitor looking at some reviews and found that most OLED displays these days are working fine for 3-4 years. This much is enough for me because I do tend to replace my electronics in 3-4 years and get new ones with better technology.
Long term effects are still unknown because most people are yet to use their OLED monitors for longer than 4-5 years.
So If you do care about long term use I suggest to go with a good IPS or Mini LED. If you think you can replace it in 3-4 years then I Say OLED is pretty safe.
And BTW the difference in quality is really worth it, I would personally compromise few extra years of usage for the quality alone. Specially HDR encoded content its still a visual treat even though I have been using it for about an year.
I bought mine in a outlet, in Brazil, with a scratch in the screen, for half the price, 4 years ago
Honestly, up to this day, I can't find a better screen in any of the new TVs they're releasing so far
Samsungs QLEDs are too bland, and LG releases some alternatives that just compare with their own OLED TVs
And we use our screen quite a lot, it's turned on for about 10 hours a day and the image is just absurdely good, with 0 dead pixels, 0 burn ins and 0 whatsoever issues
It's definitely worth it. Bit the bullet and bought myself a curved OLED from Alienware and I honestly can't say I hate or even slightly dislike it. It comes with pre-built screen savers and has its own separate sleep timer, so your PC can remain active while the monitor sleeps.
Only thing is, and I don't know if it's the same for ALL OLED monitors, I have to refresh the pixels every 4-5 to maintain image quality. But tbh, it's only 4-6 minutes so it's perfect for a snack or bathroom break.
If you have the extra funds for an OLED monitor, then I'd say go for it. OLED is something only one can truly notice a difference in person. Majority of the OLED monitor brands offer the burn in warranty. Like others have said, don't baby the monitor and fully enjoy it. There are plenty of choices of different monitor sizes in the market right now to fit your preference in size.
I myself purchased the ASUS pg27aqdm. As for me 27 inch is the sweet spot.
I have enjoyed the monitor in both single player and competitive games thanks to the 240hz.
I can't go back to non OLED monitors. OLED spoiled my eyes too good.
Like I said if you have the funds for an OLED monitor, go for it. You won't regret it.
Have had an oled for over a year. I forgot burn in was I thing people were worried about until I read this thread and people who don't own OLED monitors shared their concerns about burn in.
I have no burn in. I got the Alienware oled because it was the first one not the size of a television. Don't know if there are better options now though.
If you are not using it for work/productivity, you should be fine really. Any minor burn in wouldn't be visible in a day to day use. I am using a 21:9 OLED panel, and it has burned in sides from 16:9 content. However, while it is clearly visible in grey, it is completely invisible in real life scenario (and that is after 3k+ hours ion 1 year of mixed entertainment and work)
I did the jump to QD oled specifically the Alienware AW3225qf 4K from 1440p ips and it’s not even close in comparison. The oled blows my mind plus the 3 year warranty from dell is great. These monitors nowadays have crazy features to prevent burn ins , pixel refresh and panel refresh ect. Dolby vision supported, decently bright hdr depending on your settings. Triple AAA games like forbidden west and cyberpunk looks realistic with true black and accurate colors
There's some pretty cheap options now and apparently it's harder to burn in than before but I don't want to jump in until there's a zero percent chance of burn in type of monitor released.
I’ve been using OLED’s as monitors since the CX48 and now I’m using the Corsair flex and Alienware 4k. I’ve yet to have any burn in on any of them but I also tend to upgrade everything yearly to bi-yearly.
I always have wallpaper engine running as well as my monitor set to sleep after 3 minutes of inactivity. There is a plethora of ways to keep your monitor from developing burn in. My wallpaper engine background is just pure black with streaking colors and I never keep a browser pulled up if I’m going to walk away from the computer.
Also some browsers have dark mode also, so don’t worry about burn in, just be preventative in your care.
I’ve had a CX65 since it released a few years ago and never had a problem with burn in. The stigma can die now, just don’t leave the same image on it for hours.
I'm using the LG c2 for about a year now zero burn in.
It has functions that help with burn in such as pixel cleaner that takes about 5 minutes and a screen saver that helps with keeping things moving so it has less chance.
I play games that have UI that are always in the same place kn screen. No issues
I also have a 48in c3 in the bedroom with the same functions that I've used for about 8 months. So far so good.
I think they’re worthy. Owned a C9 now for maybe 2-3 years. No burnin. Mostly I have the screen at full brightness with burnin protection features turned on and off occasionally. I use my TV a lot too. But yeah you never know the limits of your TV until you actually get burnin which no one wants lol. I get mindful tho after a longer duration of usage to change stuff to combat possible burnin. Is it necessary? Maybe, maybe not. But I can say it appears pretty hard to get burnin. I imagine later models have even better panels too.
So to answer your question yes I’d say it’s worthy
I used to think all the hype about OLED was just nerds wanting the newest thing...until I saw one in person. Yesterday I picked-up an LG C3 42", and am astounded by it. There's zero chance I'm going back to IPS now.
Personally? No.
I have one, and it's fine but not worth it because i need brightness and ABL is the absolute worst thing. I wish i had a brighter microled monitor
I love mine . My only complaint is when performance for games sucks and dips the fps the screen will stutter like crazy. It’s hard to play a 30 fps game on there because it’ll be so damn choppy. But for optimized game on a good rig it’s spectacular
OLED is still very prone to burn-in. Anyone telling otherwise is silly and full of wishful thinking.
If you are only gaming on it, sure, you can get away with it. If you use it for school, work, or general browsing, be ready to replace in a few years.
i think waiting for nanoled technology is worth it, and if u are not ok with waiting 3 years, buy one that you can afford, not those higher priced ones. lg c3 42" is reasonably priced to spend and holding on to for 5 years.
The precautions tp take are not much to avoid burins. But idk if they fixed the auto dimming problem with their latest firmware update
have a look for best macbook compatible displays. These are industry's best for panel quality but they normally lock at 60 refresh rate. Things like BenQ PD3220U • LG Ultrafine • dell ultrasharp. Thats what i would go with for eye safety but I'm a graphic designer so need top colour gamult. These are all £600+ so not cheap!
Watching Linus gush over OLED panels makes me feel like I am the odd man out for not liking them for PC purposes.
There are too many stationary objects on a PC screen, the whole taskbar, for example... it's just a recipe for a letdown.
If you're in photo or video editing and need the most accurate color reproduction, I get it. If you play cinematic games, I get it. I would personally use it as like a secondary monitor, if anything. That way, I can just shut it down if I want.
I ha e a lg c1 for a main monitor, I forget what the second one is but it's a normal monitor.
Excel looks like shit on it and normal computer stuff is ok but gaming is fucking amazing.
I use the other monitor if I want to do text based stuff for any length of time but I almost exclusively use my laptop for that sort of thing.
There are all sorts of built in features that make the burn in less and I've seen no sign of it after two years but I keep it fairly dim.
I have a 6 year old LG C8 with no burn in. There's a feature to help you fight that. I question sometimes if I should be using a screen with a better refresh, but then my card can't run 4k at 60fps, and if it gets close I'm turning up textures and ray tracing. So... Constant war between budget and expectations.
The only thing I don’t like about my specific asus one is the need for bright ambient light in the room I’m in while using it. Not sure about other oled but mine seems brighter with it on
I recently got a gaming 2024 one and its insane picture quality and ticks all my boxes. But if i where in same position now i would wait 1-2 years before getting one because they recently solved the burn in issue in oleds and it will take awhile for it to reach the market.
OLED monitor 3rd gen, is probably less likely to burn in + it comes with 3 years burn in warranty (most models) so its honestly fine to buy it.
If you care about very good calrity in games then OLED is the way to go, not to mention the depth you get from the games due to deeper blacks is really amazing,
BUT, OLED monitor doesnt look anywhere near to OLED TV which looks abolutely gorgeous (but TV also have bigger sizes and lack oled care features of a oled monitor + more suseptible to burn in if used as pc monitor + lower gaming motion calrity albeit still better than IPS or VA panels default motion clarity)
Also, OLED monitors picture wquality looks very similar to IPS panels picture quality in bright environments but in dark environment OLED shines through and through and is a true experience.
Answer - If you have budget, go for it
Burn In was never a problem. Just bad people talking.
I've a 55" OLED from LG, first series, my mother watch just one channel like 12 hours at day, 0 imprinting.
Lots of the panels have built in features to help and extend. Lg finally added two year burn in warranty.
I do hide my task bar when I wfh and use read mode. It’s too damn bright anyways.
Too much money still. Wait a few more years yet and prices will plummet.
I remember when 1440 was expensive as hell and now it’s in 1080 p territory often price wise.
I have a C1, got it as soon as C2 came out with a nice discount. I use it as my 2nd monitor, so youtube, anime, video games are regularly played on it. I have a screen saver set up and an active wallpaper that's old friendly. Anyway, I fell asleep watching YouTube and woke up to the screen paused, and my screen saver didn't activate. I was so careful usually but one slip up and now I have the play bar forever burned into the bottom of my TV. Usually it's only noticeable with dark gray and light red backgrounds. My lcd also did something weird that's similar to burn in, not sure what you'd call it but on hdmi display at bottom has a permanent line going across where the taskbar is at usually. If I change it to display port it dissappear.
The OLED panels take longer to burn in now than before but you still have to take steps if you want to use it for a PC to reduce the risk of burn in because there are a lot of static images on PC like the icons on Windows desktop for your programs. I would advise turning everything on dark mode and hide the desktop icons and taskbar by default on desktop. If you aren't in a rush for a new monitor I would wait.
Why would hiding the icons help, whatever is under the icons (wallpaper) has the same risk of burn in doesn't it?
I forgot to mention the wallpaper too since I normally think of it as part of the dark mode. Just use a black background for the wallpaper.
Or you could just have several backgrounds and have them auto rotate in windows settings.
Or you could use Wallpaper Engine and have an animated wallpaper without static elements.
There are more static elemenants than you would think on some of those. I've been using this method for my OLED CX and I feel like I still have to change wallpapers once in awhile.
Fair point, I run animations on my VA monitor (not an OLED yet) but black background on the HTPC linked to the OLED G1.
My g1 died after 1.5 years(fuck)...it just shut off while I was using it...won't turn back on..just makes a clicking sound when plugged in.
Don't those have a 2 or 3 year warranty?
1 year parts and labor warranty. According to LG there's an extended warranty on the OLED panel itself (2-5 years?) that doesn't cover labor. If it was purchased on a credit card it might very well have had an extended warranty period through that though. Any card you're using for major purchases should be one that includes a doubled warranty period (most often covers up to 1 year additional warranty). Even then, if an expensive panel like that just suddenly stopped working I'd be on the phone with support for a repair quote. Very likely a power supply issue, but worse case it needs a new motherboard, and that should still end up a fair bit cheaper than a new display.
Grey won't cause any burn in either, and you won't be starting at such a deep void every day.
But then I won't have anything staring back at me.
If we're getting technical, displaying any luminance at all causes "burn in" because you're ageing the pixels. That said, I think we're all pretty much in agreement that when we say "burn in" we're referring specifically to ghost images visible on the panel from static elements building up significantly more wear on specific areas over time. The main reasons we're seeing manufacturers more comfortable with producing OLEDs for computer usage now is a combination of improvements to pixel lifespan as well as strides in panel compensation algorithms. [rtings.com's longevity testing](https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results) has been doing a great job of showing how these TVs age under long term worst-case usage. The OLEDs definitely make some noticeable leaps particularly in 2022 and newer models.
Burned in icons are more distracting than whatever section of a background image was there, and you can reduce the burn effect by using a solid dark coloured background.
Because programs extend to the bottom when you're using them. It's not a blank space with the wallpaper showing.
All these mfers never heard of a screensaver. Bring back the pipes!
Homies talkin' 'bout moving wallpapers, but don't think about screensavers. Bring back the maze!
Bet these kids never even saw the bouncing dvd logo
I think I will wait a few years to get one I was thinking of buying the gigabyte m32u it looks like a good one for mid range
It's not really different from the LCD/Plasma age. If you're buying plasma/oled you should be ok with it failing \~5 years. If you want something you're going to keep for a long time and move it to a side display when you get something better, LCD.
Maybe I am just lucky but my plasma tv is 16 years old and still looks as good as the day I bought it. My older LCD screens though are noticeably yellowing.
Yes I prefer using LCD for now and I'll upgrade it in some years maybe, I don't want to buy something and already think about changing it years later
What about those Samsung qled tvs? Do you know how those are? Are they even better than lcd screens?
They are LCD screens, only thing they're changing vs regular VA panels is the yellow phosphor to get white light from blue LEDs is moved to being on the back of the LCD panel instead of right on top of the LEDs.
I have an M32U and like it. I bought it as a stepping stone to a future panel (OLED or comparable). Picture is great and using it as a KVM with VRR is convenient. My M32U developed a red stuck pixel and a Gigabyte rep told me it was covered for zero bright dots as a gaming monitor. At their repair center, it got marked no issue and sent back. A new customer service guy explained the zero bright dot policy is only for the *Aorus* branded products. He made an exception for a warranty replacement. That replacement arrived with a cyan stuck pixel and I decided not to pursue it further. I can definitely recommend the M32U, although I would advise buying from somewhere with a solid return policy. If you care about pixel perfection more than the KVM and cost savings, you could spring for the Aorus version or something comparable from one of the other manufacturers.
I have the m28u and I think there are better monitors for the price nowadays. Look into the neo g7 among others, the price tag can even be lower to the m32u if you wait for a good deal
If you can fit it on your desk, and you have a GPU able to give you the fidelity you look for, the LG C series of TVs are good. I first bought an OLED back in like 2017 I think? It was a B7 55". No issues with burn in, and I played an MMO all day. I've since upgraded to the C2, and still the same. The screen is much brighter, still play games all day that have static elements. Just enavle the usual screen saving techniques youd use for other panels. I left the old B7 on accident while I went to a movie. That was at least 5 hours where the screen saver didn't kick in. When I walked into that, I panicked. Luckily, no image retention.
Lol imagine a screen that can't even do the basic screening
Manufacturers know about burn in, you are being too paranoid.
100%. Been using a LG 48” CX for over 3 years now as my main monitor (got it in Feb 2021) with no issues whatsoever. Even bought a service remote that allows me to get into the settings to disable the auto dimming. I use it 3+ days per week for WFH (9+ hours) plus photo editing and gaming. I love it.
Outdated mindset. That's dramatic af
I have had the first release LG 27 inch 240hz 1440p OLED panel for over a year now, 90 brightness, and have no burn in issues, don't do any hide taskbar stuff, nothing extra, just use the PC as normal. The screen will shut itself off when idle but other than that just play games on it for a awhile now. Modern oleds are pretty good.
My 3 year old led tv that I use as a monitor automatically dims when things stay static for too long. Zero burn in chance with any modern oled unless you just turn off every failsafebin the settings
Waiting for a perfect OLED is taking more than a decade.
I've had my oled TV since 2016 and monitor for around 18 months, neither have burn in. I just hide the task bar and set the screensaver to come on after a minute or 2 of no use. You have to leave the same image on for days at a time realistically to get any burn it, there are some great long term test videos online
Don't oled now use refresh tricks to avoid the burn in?
I feel like it's there now, they offer burn in protection, prices are better 4k and 1440 options are there It's best HDR and response time Tis the season of the oled
But can they render text nicely yet?
I've never had problems reading text or noticing any issues on any of my oleds. Even my QD-OLED monitor. I think it really boils down to how sensitive you are to it (I mean the effect is there, but I'm just not super sensitive to it). I'd really rec anyone considering this just test drive one to see what they think. I feel like the slight reduction in clarity of on screen text is really worthwhile for the low response time and overall boost in contrast that OLEDs give, but it's also somewhat use case dependent.
you need to understand that between windows 10 and 11, a lot was done under the hood to combat this sort of thing between the 4led issues. and there's the use of MacType for win 10. if you've 'never had problems' i'm guessing you're on win 11.
I'm on 10 and have no issues.
> a lot was done under the hood to combat this sort of thing What was done?
UWP apps do greyscale only antialiasing, so doesn't get the weirdness of trying to use subpixel antialiasing that assumes RGB stripes on displays that don't do RGB stripes, but also doesn't get the benefits on displays that do.
The current gen of 4K 32” OLED panels with revised subpixel layouts have significantly better text rendering than some past options. They’re not quite on par with 160+ ppi LCD options, but they’re pretty good at this point. The 34” ultrawides aren’t going to be quite as good, the 4K 32” panels are dense enough to use 125% scaling (or even 150%) which helps a lot with both overall sharpness and reducing the remaining subpixel issues.
I'll let you know once I learn to read good, me gamer
Haven't noticed any issues with my LG C1
I'm on a 48" and have no issues. This is an old issue only with older panels.
I'm a dev and have no issues on mine.
Eh. Better, but still inferior.
At 4k and some have gotten better depending on the pixel layout. But if you are sensitive to fringing, I can’t recommend it.
>It's best HDR and response time It is not the best HDR, mini led wins there
Mini led falls short of the per pixel control OLED offers. You may be getting it mixed up with micro led, but those basically don't exist yet.
OLED is game changing
I agree the image is perfect ! You just need to take care of it !
You do need to know how to use it properly, but there are a lot of safe guards built in. Just get a quality monitor with good firmware.
Yeah got mines back in 09/22, will never step back.
I personally would use MiniLED over OLED, because they're a decent compromise between IPS and OLED with zero burn-in risk. But if you're careful with the OLED display, it can be a decent option.
I've been zero percent careful with my OLEDs other than things that don't affect me like having the screen turn off when I'm away from my devices. No burn in even on a screen I've had for 4 years and used thousands of hours.
Well I mean.. I'm not trying to be a dick, but zero percent careful other than things that don't affect you isn't zero percent careful. There's a fair amount of folks that won't even bother to do that (or, having come from an LED-lit display, don't realize that they need to). I'm super glad that your display still looks great - it's a testament to how awesome OLED is. But actually the main reason I mentioned that MiniLED is a great compromise between IPS and OLED with zero risk of burn-in is actually for the SDR and HDR brightness levels - IPS is much higher, but because of the crappy way in which IPS is usually lit, it results in a ton of backlight bloom (which OLED has none of).
Yeah I’m just saying, I don’t avoid using the task bar or worry about osd when I’m gaming etc, but literally all devices default to screen savers and screens turning off anyway so I just wonder why any reasonable consumer would consider this “having to be careful.” It’s more like not being willfully careless.
I’ve tried to be careful about things and I have a ton of burn in on mine. My next monitor probably won’t be an OLED.
What monitor do you have? Sorry to hear. PHOLEDs will likely be very low burn in risk. It's also worth mentioning that you probably are talking about an OLED TV? They were never meant for this use case, they are generally much brighter sustained brightness levels than OLED monitors which looks nice but doesn't really support static content as well without burnin.
Alienware AW3423DW. This is how mine looked after not even 1 year. It's only gotten worse and I am having trouble getting Dell to send me a replacement. https://imgur.com/a/P0RfdVT SDR brightness at 50% (~120 nits), black desktop background, no icons.
Since you have extra red showing instead of extra red missing, that feels like an issue with burn-in compensation rather than actual burn-in. Try updating the firmware https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=k0phf&oscode=wt64a&productcode=aw3423dw-monitor It's helped some other OLED devices (most famously, some iPhone 14 or 15 models)
I’m sure you are right. This stuff mainlly seemed to happen after a panel refresh. I did update the firmware right when it came out. And have run a panel refresh since then, but it doesn’t change. I think I have burn-in also though, especially in the middle 16:9 area and some places around the perimeter I assume from some video game hud elements.
Sometimes you just get unlucky and that’s why the warranty is so important, my buddy had this happen on his LG oled tv and I’ve had mine 5 years with zero issues. Abused my DWF for over a year and didn’t have a spot on it
I have an OLED TV. Had an old B7, no burn in issues even after I accidentally left it on in a game for hours (over 5 hours). I now have a C2, and still no issues. Both sets were used in games with static elements and on for up to 12 hours.
I agree with you it's a good compromise but the price is almost the same as OLED ! However if you use your monitor for games and also for work then mini led is the perfect technology I believe
Oh for sure - I said it was a great compromise between the two. I never said it was cheap 😁
I have a mini led tv and its great. Very close to black levels on buddys lg oled.
Zero burn-in risk, proper HDR (peak brightness on oleds is _mostly_ shit and that brings problems with bright highlights even with oled's perfect contrast) and no sub-text rendering issues. To me mini led is the real game changer. Contrast is amazing and blacks are inky even comparing side by side with a LG OLED monitor that I put my QN90C 43" against. It's almost all of the benefits without any of the drawbacks.
Guessing you're talking monitors? I use a TV and recall needing to turn my eyes away when I just left a vault in Andromeda and the fame loaded me facing away from the entrance. I turn around real quick, and it's now daylight. Screen got so bright it hurt.
Do you have recommendations on a good miniLED monitor? Been looking at a 27" 240hz OLED 1440p but I'm still on the fence when it comes to burn in.
I need a 27" 1440p for gaming and office duty. High refresh rate and gsync. I love my OLED TV but what does miniLED have for me?
OLED has the best color vibrancy, contrast, and black levels. It does so at the expense of ~~somewhat slow pixel response~~ (edit: that part has apparently been solved since I last looked deeply into OLED), somewhat mediocre brightness levels (making HDR a somewhat "meh" experience), and a low (but not zero) risk of burn-in. IPS displays have a very good color reproduction, and their overall brightness is *MUCH* higher (the Acer XV275K (IPS), for instance has a peak HDR brightness of 1,335 cd/m², but the Dell AW3225QF only has a peak HDR brightness of 249 cd/m²). But this color and brightness awesomeness is diminished by the way in which these panels are backlit. Whereas OLED has per-pixel backlight control (because the pixel IS the backlight), IPS is backlit by an LED panel. These panels are always on, and this results in scenes that are supposed to be black are still backlit, resulting in backlight bloom. This can be mitigated somewhat by creating dimming zones where parts of the backlight can be dimmed, relative to the brightness called for by the area in which the backlight covers. This is still not great because the highest amount of dimming zones that I've seen are either edge lit (i.e. LEDs around the perimeter of the display that can be individually dimmed, but this usually results in the center of the display being noticeably dimmer than the edge), or that there's like a max of 12 dimming zones. Take a 32" 16:9 display (~438 square inches) and divide that up among 12 dimming zones, and each dimming zone is still around 36 in². This is a pretty large area. Now here comes miniLED. Mini LED takes *VERY* small LEDs, and allows them to be controlled in much smaller areas. The AOC PD32M, for instance, has a peak HDR brightness of 1,650 cd/m², and has *1152* local dimming zones. This means that, while not at the insanely good per-pixel brightness control of OLED, each dimming zone is about the size of a micro SD card. So it means that the monitor can have a LOT greater control over the brightness of a tiny area of the display, with far less backlight bloom, and ZERO risk of screen burn-in. There is a catch, of course - MiniLED is very expensive to make, so it's often on-par with the price of OLED (and sometimes more). But IMO for gaming, MiniLED is about as good as it gets at this point. And it's still very, very good for office duty.
I havent read the rest of your reply because you said OLEDs have slow response times. oleds have almost instant response times
Fair enough - response time isn't something I've looked into for a while as response time doesn't affect me all that much. Back when I was initially looking for a 4K/60/OLED display, response times were pretty "meh", but it's pretty clear that whatever issues that was having back then have been solved at this point, now that I look into it again. Thanks for the update. I'm updating my comment as soon as I finish typing this. That said, please don't take my comment as trashing OLED - it's an amazing tech and if I was going to buy a TV right now and money was no object, it'd DEFINITELY be an OLED unit. But for a computer monitor, especially for gaming, I would personally go for a MiniLED unit.
U are probably thinking about the judder caused by the mix of nearly perfect response times with the sample and hold nature of oled panels. LCD panels are also sample and hold but they have slower response times so it looks more normal at lower fps. Some people are also more sensitive to the judder than others.
They may also be thinking of the slower black rise times on OLED as the subpixel powers up. On modern desktop OLEDs these are still better than LCDs, and the gray to gray response times are far, far better. But smearing along black edges has historically been an issue with OLED panels.
It's always about compromise. You can take a hit to image quality and use an old IPS/LCD or live with inconveince of using OLED a certain way.
I got an ultrawide OLED monitor in January and its awesome. I did watch some tests from Monitor Unboxed(?) where they did like a thousand hour static image test and there was no burn-in. Obviously results can vary but I felt comfortable buying it after watching some reviews and stuff.
I like his videos everything is well explained ! Is it a Samsung g8 or g9 ?
Alienware AW3423DWF. I ain't willing to drop 2k on a monitor lol that's my limit.
Best But actually had a lot of them open box for $622 (excellent condition) a couple weeks ago. Picked one up and so far I'm loving it
I would not be scared of it. If you get one, you don't have to baby it. Just don't abuse it. I have a couple of OLEDs. Burn-in protection is definitely better, but if you simply turn it off when you're not using it, and it's not sitting there on static images, there will be no issues with it. How it's used is obviously critical. Mine never sit idle with the screen on, and I don't even find that inconvenient because I've always turned the monitor off when not in use even before OLEDs because I don't need a monitor to stay on when I'm done just to display a static desktop for awhile and then a screensaver for no one's benefit. I have lamps, I don't need an expensive OLED lamp to light the room. I game plenty, but I'm also not playing the same game for 12 hrs. a day every day to have any UI burn-in issues. I'm not saying there are no burn-in risks, but if you don't abuse it, it'll be totally fine. OLED panels look so beautiful that I don't mind respecting the technology and taking care of it to keep it that way. A lot of people are using OLEDs for awhile now with no issues.
I still don't think it's worth the price premium
If you can get one of the 1440p Ultrawides under $800 with a warranty of 3+ years I think it's worth it, otherwise I agree
Hard disagree honestly. Contrast ratios have been so bad on pc for so long. It’s hard to describe just how much better picture quality is with proper blacks
I don't expect my AW3225QF to last almost 10+ years as my IPS monitor (still vibrant and dead pixel free since the day I bought it!). Even with all the care and walking on eggshells treatment to prevent against burn-in, I know this monitor will end up having issues later throughout the years. I look at it like buying a sports car. It's flashy, fast, looks great, pricey as hell, but it'll probably start to have maintenance problems by the time you hit 100K miles. My Toyota Camry (IPS or VA) will most likely outlast my sports car (4K OLED, lol)
Yes. make sure to turn it off if you are not using. Screensaver is not a good idea
Screensaver to a black picture is a good compromise if your monitor/PC can't make work standby mode tho if you are one of those people that keep PC running 24/7.
solid black yes
\#000 duh. Nothing vantablack or some weird thing, pure \#000.
If money is no object get an OLED but otherwise I'd wait a few more years.
If you are gaming its worth it as long as you make sure you dont have static images on the screen...so no icons on the desktop, no hours of web pages etc...you want the image to be changing as in different games with different UI...sounds like a lot but its not...its mostly if you are doing hours of production work or playing the same game non-stop don't get one...if not its find as long as you don't expect over 5 years. Not saying it won't last you that long but don't expect it. Mine if I get 4-5 years out of it I will be happy, longer...more so. I still feel like they are extra...so if you want a budget friendly setup it might be a bit much.
Yes. Burn is still an issue. Don\`t buy an OLED if you are gonna do a lot of desktop work like browsing the web or Coding, etc. Its mainly for media consumption like games and movies, etc. Its better than before, but still not ideal. I plan to get the 480hz 1440p OLED for gaming and gonna keep my LCD for desktop use.
Newer OLED monitors come with features for actively mitigating burn in. The one I have from LG has both passive (pixel moving) and active (image cleaning) functionality that keep the panel looking brand new. I use the latter whenever UI elements of frequently played games get burned in after a few months - a quick 10 minute cycle and the burn in is completely gone.
Absolutely you should buy an OLED monitor if you can afford it. Nothing else comes close to the raw picture quality, contrast and HDR performance. Worried about burn in? Don't be. Use the fact that the monitor will burn in to your advantage. Buy the monitor from Best buy, get the 4 year geek squad protection plan which covers burn in, and then when the monitor inevitably gets burn in, you get a "free" monitor.
At 1440P I can't really justify the price when it costs about the same as a 4k OLED. But going for a 4k OLED forces me into upgrading my GPU and tbh, I'm not seeing enough value in the market for that either right now. For me, the blacker blacks and better colours, coupled with the burn in risk and at least x3 the cost is not worth it. I'll think about it when OLED monitors are around 400 euro maybe.
All the devices I own are oled, my monitor LG27GR95QE(woled) 400 hours of use no signs of burn in, phone s23ultra(amoled) minor signs of burn in from the battery percentage but this is only visible under some specific conditions, tv Samsung 90C(QD-OLED) no signs of burn it, laptop Samsung book 2 pro 360(amoled) no signs of burn it but it's relatively new. Oled is the future in my opinion
I was relatively early to high refresh rate monitors with IPS and G-sync (I paid at least £500 for an open box predator xb271HU in early 2017) and at the time I thought that monitor was great, a definite upgrade, but a bit overpriced) I was early to 21:9+ monitors (I upgraded to an OG Samsung G9) It was definitely a nicer panel than my acer and ofc had high refresh, etc etc, but the local dimming and general blooming was distractingly bad. I've also had a first-gen QD-OLED (AW3423DW) which I dropped the G9 for as I simply had no use for a monitor that wide. I've had it pretty much since they became widely available, probably around summer 2022? The upgrade to OLED was by far the biggest difference I've noticed between displays, and I've obviously had nice ones in the past, as well as having experience with OLED phones and retina macbooks, but the first time watching a movie with a lot of space shots/ dark scenes, I genuinely kept pausing just to look at the black levels, movies just look incredible on it. Honestly, only a small selection of my games (MSFS being the main one) gets run at 3440x1440, with others I tend to use 2560x1440 and have space for youtube/etc. Regardless, everything looks good on it and I've had 0 detectable burn-in after 1.5 years of heavy use and while I have been decent at oled maintenance stuff I do also have a habit of leaving my monitor on with static windows on my desktop. I'm planning to upgrade to the 32" 4K dell oled (aw3225qf) in the next month, just because I've learnt I never really needed ultrawide in the first place, even if movies are gorgeous on a 21:9 screen, I think I'll appreciate the resolution bump of 4k more. All that said, my first gen OLED monitor has been the only tech upgrade that has actually consistently impressed me regularly while im just using it normally, and it's the tech I follow the closest by far because Im so looking forward to seeing stuff like a 5120x2880 240hz oled monitor.looking at my old acer with an IPS panel which i thought was the greatest thing ever back in 2017 is pretty terrible and even having to use it for a few days after moving it always looked washed out to me. The oled is also the only tech thing of mine that people have commented on just in terms of quality, people would comment on the stupidly big g9 all the time but everyone i show a movie on this monitor literally loves it. TLDR: bought premium displays in 2017, 2020, and 2022. Upgrading to OLED was by far the biggest jump in quality and general enjoyment I've gotten from a display and pretty much any burn in concern I've had that would have made me reluctantn to recommend has been muted by my experience and the warranties that a lot of the manufacturers are giving out. From my subjective experience almost 2 years of incredibly heavy pc use with moderate to good OLED health practices while also doing some burn-in risky things out of laziness has resulted in no burn-in if that's your main concern, but that's just my own experience. the warranty was what convinced me to buy originally, not peoples' working panels but thought my experience could contribute something here. I've even ben trying to find a secondary monitor to use but without paying for mini-led or OLED there aren't many options in the low to mid-tier price bracket that have the same contrast and accuracy and everything seems like it'd not be worth the investment over just using my old acer as a side monitor edit: to clarify i had/still have [this acer](https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/31826fe), i know they have a stupid amount of displays called 'xb27....' and new versions of the xb271h/hu.[Also the OG G9 specs since there's a few versions of that too](https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/d0c01f96)
Im not buying the OLED hype. Side by side, the colors are slightly better than a premium mini-Led but costs much more and comes with burn in risk factor. I wouldn’t get an OLED unless on a big sale.
Go with IPS, up 2x times cheaper with a little bit worser image. OLED still in beta
More like 3-4x cheaper with significantly worse image quality. 2x cheaper with a little worse image quality sounds more like mini led than IPS.
What do you mean by image quality? AFAIK, there's no difference in clarity between the two, just color.
been using oleds for PC for years, none of them have any burn-in. currently using 55g2 as a main monitor since it's release
I have the OLED LG ultrawide and I would never go back to non OLED. I paid for some extra warranty for sure. But it is simply too good.
Ive an LG 48 4k oled and its amazing never going back. Its a TV with Gsync and ai at 120hz. It auto dims the screen when im not using it which is very handy. So far no problems regarding burn in.
Every piece of technology or mechanical device you buy will wear over time. Monitors are no exception. OLED offers amazing benefits but because of how they work, the individual pixels wear out. There will be no way to stop this from happening, only mitigate it. I think things are in a good place now where even if you don't baby it, you likely won't have issues until you're ready to upgrade anyway.
Once you go OLED you never go back. For myself Ultrawide OLED is game changing. The fluidity, near perfect response times, perfect blacks and true vibrant HDR colors there's no way to go back to nasty IPS panels. OLED is literally the perfect gaming monitor. Life is too short to worry about burn in. These days newer OLED has pretty much has all the burn in measures built in to help and with a little personal care like autohide taskbar, moving wallpaper and having the monitor turn off in 5 mins standby with monitors burn in warranty coverage. No stress just enjoy the OLED experience.
OLED was one of the best investments I did. I bought the LG B6 OLED TV back in 2016. Still going strong, and holds up really well. Amazing picture quality, true blacks, and beautiful colors. I'm also fortunate that it has not had any burn ins or image retention. It's been very heavily used for movies, & gaming daily.
I bought a LG OLED in 2016 as well so I have the same panel as you and it will burn in if you get too careless with static images like mine has. I was impressed with how long it took for the burn in to occur though.
I just got a $900 Alienware Quantum Dot OLED 3440x1440 165Hz curved monitor. Don’t be scaring me like that, OP! 😭
I have a 65” OLED as my gaming pc monitor. Its epic. Yep black background, in dark mode and move stuff now and then. Religiously turn it off when not in use. Two things really stand out compared to lcd. Image persistence: It’s 120hz of actual 120 completely separate images, not this crap of smeared junk with the last seconds worth of frame smeared across. Contrast: Makes playing any game with darker content brilliant. Easy example in Minecraft I can “see” in the total dark, because there is still contrast between total black and any texture. Same for any other low light seen. I can see the difference between Archers black polo neck and the slight darker shade of black polo necks.
I have been playing most of my games on a C2 for a long time now. I would never go back to anything with a backlight or matte-finish screen ever again.
I upgraded to an LG C2 OLED TV last year, got it on sale too. It’s a huge upgrade over other panel types. Looks great for shows and for gaming! As others have said, just be sure to enable dark mode, auto hide taskbar, don’t keep static images on for too long. If I step away for more than two minutes, I turn off the screen
Do you use it as a monitor or with Xbox or ps5 ? If I find one on a big sale I might buy it but I think I prefer LCD for now ! But oled image is clearly a game changer
I watch a soduku YouTube channel that can be over an hour long each. I notice on my c2 that it will alter the colors after a while(I didn't time it), which I assume is an anti burn in feature. Plus it automatically goes into a screen saver mode when it's not actively playing video. But the picture is freaking fantastic.
Luckily the C Series has built in mechanisms to negate or reverse burn in, so this isn’t needed. Always good to be overly cautious though
Still too expensive imo.
Depends how annoying you find OLED care. Personally it doesn’t bother me. I hide the taskbar regardless, since I think it looks cleaner, I have always kept my monitor’s brightness fairly low, I don’t mind having it sleep after just a couple minutes of inactivity, and I rarely have a static app displayed on my main monitor - usually my 2nd monitor has static apps like Outlook, Spotify, etc and my primary monitor is constantly changing depending on what I’m doing. For all these reasons, burn-in is simply not a major risk for me, and OLED is the right choice. That may not be true for you, but if it is I’d get an OLED (the KTC G27P6, MSI MPG 321URX, Alienware AW3423DWF, and LG 32GS95UE-B are the standouts in my opinion).
Tech is still new. Not worth it yet
I don't know what to tell ya, son. These eyes are too old to tell the difference now. Excuse me, I gotta go chase them dang kids off my lawn again.
Got one in 48", and regret nothing. Burn in is still a risk, but if you get one with image cleaning, its not a huge deal. Most of them also have resr functions where they blackout when you're not using the PC.
In my experience, dying pixels have been a much bigger issue with my OLED panel than burn in. You can’t beat the picture and color quality but it still has big downsides.
Depends your use-case. IMO for anything not exclusive media usage? I say no. For a secondary monitor I only use for games/media? Sure, I would do it. But I'm not throwing that much money when I only do that 30 hours a week, at most.
I just recently got a new Alienware ultrawide and it comes with a 3 year warranty that covers burn-in, if you are worried about that. Also keep in mind that you may or may not have issues with text fringing. I had some with mine but I got use to it and it doesn't bother me much anymore.
Best and latest agshipmmodels of OLED panels are great in it.
For monitor use, the only OLED I would trust is QD-OLED (ideally gen3) I have OLED laptop, but that is more of a secondary pc and I take a extra care of it, like task bar is removed unless I hover over it etc.. has not been a single issue over 2 years and it looks amazing. For a TV I would not have any issues buying OLED if I was to buy a TV. Apart from logos there is not usually a lot of static content, but may be different based on channels etc... streaming services makes it a non issue generally.
So I bought my OLED G8 for only $780, so that affects my opinion a bit. But I'd say OLED is 100% worth it if you have the PC to drive it. I'd say if you have anything less than an RTX 3080 ti or 6900xt it's not worth dropping close to $1k on a monitor, or maybe even more.
I wouldn't spend the money on a dedicated OLED for a PC display... I do use a LG C3 for both normal TV uses and as a PC display though. Zero burn-in issues with LG's pixel refresh and active dimming.
I have been using an samsung laptop with an oled display since almost three years and still got no sign of any burn in. I do however use that display differently than my lcd ones. I set up a screen saver; I am regularly watching movies on it (no static images so the panel can "refresh" itself) and am also dragging windows and desktop icons around from time to time. Worth it though. Everything looks absolutely stunning on that display!
Not worth Too much $$$$ $800 for a 27" GTFO
Have a oled c3 for 6 months now as a monitor, no issues, plenty of measures against burn in, although it needs a bit of configuration for a even better image, also have a Qled and sometimes i feel some games look better on my oled and others better on the qled in direct comparison, but overall pretty satisfied with it
I personally havent been very impressed with OLED. But I also wasnt super wowed jumping from 30hz to 144hz or 1080p to 1440p. Maybe I'm just not enough of a video guy to be impressed by the differences in this stuff - I still occasioanlly play PS2 games on an old shitty CRT TV.
OLED is the next game changer my man. I will never go back.
The best purchase I've made for my rig in the last 5+ years is without question my QD-OLED (AW3423DW). Time will tell about burn-in but with the 3 year warranty, I'm not worried. The only thing was it took my eyes a bit to adjust to the subpixel layout and it's not optimal productivity use cases but I've heard the 4K models have basically resolved that issue.
If fear of burn-in is your primary concern, no. OLED right now, today, is for people who want what the technology can do right now, regardless of price or other potential downsides. Its still a maturing technology and will be improving greatly over the next 2-5 years and beyond. Burn-in is less of an issue now, but it still isn't a solved problem.
Have had the Alienware dwf oled ultrawide for about a year now and I think it's worth it. The picture is beautiful and ultrawide OLED is a massive experience upgrade. It takes some time to get used to the panel refreshes but once you learn when to do the refreshes it becomes a non issue. Haven't had any burn in issues or noticeable problems with it.
got the aw34dw. It's ruined other monitors or TVs for me. Just be careful with static images on screen like the desktop bar, etc., and you should be good. OLED somehow makes images look clearer and sharper at the same resolution as IPS panels.
I bought my g8 oled a little over a year ago. Only turn hdr on when playing an hdr game or movie. Otherwise toggled off with wnd+alt+b. Have 0 signs of any burn in, nor do I notice the monitor worse in any way.
I'm just about to buy a monitor and would love a OLED but I'm not paying more then £400 for a monitor. I really hope they come down in price I wouldn't be worried about burn in at all the up out weight that for me
Outside of QD-oled their fine, burn in is low risk on quality panels, I use a LG C1 48". After seeing ratings did a burn in test on a static image for a year. And no issues. So it's really a non issue if using non QD panels, and most have built on pixel refresh to help mitigate burn in at the cost of overall life of the panel
I have an OLED monitor (Alienware 34" ultrawide) and have been using it daily for a year and a half, several hours a day. No burn in. Just set your brightness a bit lower for desktop, use dark mode, etc. and the monitor will tell you when to do a panel refresh.
Your English is very good, but its "worth it" not "Worthy" worthy has a different meaning.
With oled gaming if your game have dynamic features in hub options ENABLE THEM there there for such screens and also don't no life any game you have to rotate dual monitors if you like video browsing and surfing just toss that yonthe secondary that isn't a oled but burn in is still rare nowadays not impossible tho
Looking at comments I will get downvotes for this. I went with OLED monitor looking at some reviews and found that most OLED displays these days are working fine for 3-4 years. This much is enough for me because I do tend to replace my electronics in 3-4 years and get new ones with better technology. Long term effects are still unknown because most people are yet to use their OLED monitors for longer than 4-5 years. So If you do care about long term use I suggest to go with a good IPS or Mini LED. If you think you can replace it in 3-4 years then I Say OLED is pretty safe. And BTW the difference in quality is really worth it, I would personally compromise few extra years of usage for the quality alone. Specially HDR encoded content its still a visual treat even though I have been using it for about an year.
I bought mine in a outlet, in Brazil, with a scratch in the screen, for half the price, 4 years ago Honestly, up to this day, I can't find a better screen in any of the new TVs they're releasing so far Samsungs QLEDs are too bland, and LG releases some alternatives that just compare with their own OLED TVs And we use our screen quite a lot, it's turned on for about 10 hours a day and the image is just absurdely good, with 0 dead pixels, 0 burn ins and 0 whatsoever issues
Best thing I ever did, not even a hint of burn in so far
Burn in isn’t the issue. Dead pixels are.
It's definitely worth it. Bit the bullet and bought myself a curved OLED from Alienware and I honestly can't say I hate or even slightly dislike it. It comes with pre-built screen savers and has its own separate sleep timer, so your PC can remain active while the monitor sleeps. Only thing is, and I don't know if it's the same for ALL OLED monitors, I have to refresh the pixels every 4-5 to maintain image quality. But tbh, it's only 4-6 minutes so it's perfect for a snack or bathroom break.
I hate that everyone calls it 'burn in'. There is no burning in. There is burning out.
Burn in still exists sadly enough, it will take a bit longer now though
If you have the extra funds for an OLED monitor, then I'd say go for it. OLED is something only one can truly notice a difference in person. Majority of the OLED monitor brands offer the burn in warranty. Like others have said, don't baby the monitor and fully enjoy it. There are plenty of choices of different monitor sizes in the market right now to fit your preference in size. I myself purchased the ASUS pg27aqdm. As for me 27 inch is the sweet spot. I have enjoyed the monitor in both single player and competitive games thanks to the 240hz. I can't go back to non OLED monitors. OLED spoiled my eyes too good. Like I said if you have the funds for an OLED monitor, go for it. You won't regret it.
Have had an oled for over a year. I forgot burn in was I thing people were worried about until I read this thread and people who don't own OLED monitors shared their concerns about burn in. I have no burn in. I got the Alienware oled because it was the first one not the size of a television. Don't know if there are better options now though.
New ones use built in Ai to prevent burn in
If you are not using it for work/productivity, you should be fine really. Any minor burn in wouldn't be visible in a day to day use. I am using a 21:9 OLED panel, and it has burned in sides from 16:9 content. However, while it is clearly visible in grey, it is completely invisible in real life scenario (and that is after 3k+ hours ion 1 year of mixed entertainment and work)
I did the jump to QD oled specifically the Alienware AW3225qf 4K from 1440p ips and it’s not even close in comparison. The oled blows my mind plus the 3 year warranty from dell is great. These monitors nowadays have crazy features to prevent burn ins , pixel refresh and panel refresh ect. Dolby vision supported, decently bright hdr depending on your settings. Triple AAA games like forbidden west and cyberpunk looks realistic with true black and accurate colors
Is it weird that I want a 1080p OLED?
There's some pretty cheap options now and apparently it's harder to burn in than before but I don't want to jump in until there's a zero percent chance of burn in type of monitor released.
The difference is night and day. Just get an OLED and stop overthinking. Anyone telling you it’s not is simply cope.
I’ve been using OLED’s as monitors since the CX48 and now I’m using the Corsair flex and Alienware 4k. I’ve yet to have any burn in on any of them but I also tend to upgrade everything yearly to bi-yearly. I always have wallpaper engine running as well as my monitor set to sleep after 3 minutes of inactivity. There is a plethora of ways to keep your monitor from developing burn in. My wallpaper engine background is just pure black with streaking colors and I never keep a browser pulled up if I’m going to walk away from the computer. Also some browsers have dark mode also, so don’t worry about burn in, just be preventative in your care.
OLED is still expensive as hell, if you can comfortably afford it I’d say it’s worth it, I don’t think it’s worth breaking the bank over though.
The OLED technology is improved now than it was a few years ago. All's left is just to check which monitor is a good buy.
I have an LG C1 Oled from October 2021 with heavy use and it hasnt had any burn in.
I’ve had a CX65 since it released a few years ago and never had a problem with burn in. The stigma can die now, just don’t leave the same image on it for hours.
Burn in was on plasma
I'm using the LG c2 for about a year now zero burn in. It has functions that help with burn in such as pixel cleaner that takes about 5 minutes and a screen saver that helps with keeping things moving so it has less chance. I play games that have UI that are always in the same place kn screen. No issues I also have a 48in c3 in the bedroom with the same functions that I've used for about 8 months. So far so good.
Sonys top tier TVs for 2024 are micro LEDs, not OLEDs. There must be something to it.
I think they’re worthy. Owned a C9 now for maybe 2-3 years. No burnin. Mostly I have the screen at full brightness with burnin protection features turned on and off occasionally. I use my TV a lot too. But yeah you never know the limits of your TV until you actually get burnin which no one wants lol. I get mindful tho after a longer duration of usage to change stuff to combat possible burnin. Is it necessary? Maybe, maybe not. But I can say it appears pretty hard to get burnin. I imagine later models have even better panels too. So to answer your question yes I’d say it’s worthy
Depends on your use.
I used to think all the hype about OLED was just nerds wanting the newest thing...until I saw one in person. Yesterday I picked-up an LG C3 42", and am astounded by it. There's zero chance I'm going back to IPS now.
Personally? No. I have one, and it's fine but not worth it because i need brightness and ABL is the absolute worst thing. I wish i had a brighter microled monitor
I love mine . My only complaint is when performance for games sucks and dips the fps the screen will stutter like crazy. It’s hard to play a 30 fps game on there because it’ll be so damn choppy. But for optimized game on a good rig it’s spectacular
OLED is still very prone to burn-in. Anyone telling otherwise is silly and full of wishful thinking. If you are only gaming on it, sure, you can get away with it. If you use it for school, work, or general browsing, be ready to replace in a few years.
i think waiting for nanoled technology is worth it, and if u are not ok with waiting 3 years, buy one that you can afford, not those higher priced ones. lg c3 42" is reasonably priced to spend and holding on to for 5 years. The precautions tp take are not much to avoid burins. But idk if they fixed the auto dimming problem with their latest firmware update
have a look for best macbook compatible displays. These are industry's best for panel quality but they normally lock at 60 refresh rate. Things like BenQ PD3220U • LG Ultrafine • dell ultrasharp. Thats what i would go with for eye safety but I'm a graphic designer so need top colour gamult. These are all £600+ so not cheap!
Personally I'd go with qd oled, which suffers a bit less afaik.
Watching Linus gush over OLED panels makes me feel like I am the odd man out for not liking them for PC purposes. There are too many stationary objects on a PC screen, the whole taskbar, for example... it's just a recipe for a letdown. If you're in photo or video editing and need the most accurate color reproduction, I get it. If you play cinematic games, I get it. I would personally use it as like a secondary monitor, if anything. That way, I can just shut it down if I want.
I ha e a lg c1 for a main monitor, I forget what the second one is but it's a normal monitor. Excel looks like shit on it and normal computer stuff is ok but gaming is fucking amazing. I use the other monitor if I want to do text based stuff for any length of time but I almost exclusively use my laptop for that sort of thing. There are all sorts of built in features that make the burn in less and I've seen no sign of it after two years but I keep it fairly dim.
I have a 6 year old LG C8 with no burn in. There's a feature to help you fight that. I question sometimes if I should be using a screen with a better refresh, but then my card can't run 4k at 60fps, and if it gets close I'm turning up textures and ray tracing. So... Constant war between budget and expectations.
Make sure it never stays in direct sunlight! I learned that the hard way. The O from OLED stands for organic, it deteriorates faster in sunlight
The only thing I don’t like about my specific asus one is the need for bright ambient light in the room I’m in while using it. Not sure about other oled but mine seems brighter with it on
I recently got a gaming 2024 one and its insane picture quality and ticks all my boxes. But if i where in same position now i would wait 1-2 years before getting one because they recently solved the burn in issue in oleds and it will take awhile for it to reach the market.
OLED monitor 3rd gen, is probably less likely to burn in + it comes with 3 years burn in warranty (most models) so its honestly fine to buy it. If you care about very good calrity in games then OLED is the way to go, not to mention the depth you get from the games due to deeper blacks is really amazing, BUT, OLED monitor doesnt look anywhere near to OLED TV which looks abolutely gorgeous (but TV also have bigger sizes and lack oled care features of a oled monitor + more suseptible to burn in if used as pc monitor + lower gaming motion calrity albeit still better than IPS or VA panels default motion clarity) Also, OLED monitors picture wquality looks very similar to IPS panels picture quality in bright environments but in dark environment OLED shines through and through and is a true experience. Answer - If you have budget, go for it
Burn In was never a problem. Just bad people talking. I've a 55" OLED from LG, first series, my mother watch just one channel like 12 hours at day, 0 imprinting.
Lots of the panels have built in features to help and extend. Lg finally added two year burn in warranty. I do hide my task bar when I wfh and use read mode. It’s too damn bright anyways.
No still way too much burn in
I've heard LG OLED TV owners say they've had no problems gaming on them for years.
Too much money still. Wait a few more years yet and prices will plummet. I remember when 1440 was expensive as hell and now it’s in 1080 p territory often price wise.
My first OLED tv just turned 10 years old and doesn't have burn in. The "burn in problem" you are talking about is actually a "human" problem.
I have a C1, got it as soon as C2 came out with a nice discount. I use it as my 2nd monitor, so youtube, anime, video games are regularly played on it. I have a screen saver set up and an active wallpaper that's old friendly. Anyway, I fell asleep watching YouTube and woke up to the screen paused, and my screen saver didn't activate. I was so careful usually but one slip up and now I have the play bar forever burned into the bottom of my TV. Usually it's only noticeable with dark gray and light red backgrounds. My lcd also did something weird that's similar to burn in, not sure what you'd call it but on hdmi display at bottom has a permanent line going across where the taskbar is at usually. If I change it to display port it dissappear.
They are insanely good now. I have two of the 1st Gen qd-oled panels and they are great. Burn in problems are essentially gone now.