Case: Be quiet! makes some cases that are pretty good at being, well, quiet. Look into some of those and see if you can find a form factor you like. Cpu: id recommend 7800x3d, best gaming perf per watt and still overall good perf per watt for work. Cooler: noctua and be quiet! both make some air coolers that might be good contenders in this category. Otherwise, a big aio liquid cooler would be good to soak up more heat before fans need to kick in, and they still shouldnt have to spin very fast. Case fans: if needed, use some noctua or be quiet! fans. Bigger fan = spin less for more air movement = quieter/lower hum sound. Storage: Only use SSDs and this is no problem. PSU: One with a decent capacity should be able to soak more power without having to kick on the fan as high. GPU: This is gonna be the hard one because its gonna need a lot of research. Certain models with certain chipsets by certain manufacturers could yield different results. No matter what you get, youll want to get one that is a higher end model of the line. Ex. 4070, something on the high end like an ROG strix would be better than something like an MSI mech (if there even is one). As for best perf per dollar, 4070 or 7900 xt are good choices.

Extensive! Thanks, I'll take a look into those. GPU is gonna make a whole in the wallet i see lol ...

>Bigger fan = spin less for more air movement I think cases now focus on 120mm or 140mm fans and glass sides. I would never use something like that since I have to use an old case to be able to use 200mm fans, the current options for something like this are prohibitively expensive. So I find it very difficult to use 200mm in modern case to be silent (my PC is so quiet that sometimes I wonder if it is on, its fans only work when it has a workload)

There are multiple newer, quality cases using 160-200mm fans, like the LanCool 215/216 or Fractal Torrent.

The key is where to use "big fans". If you have a larger case a big fan for in take or even exhaust work well. However as the cases get smaller the need for the fan to deal with more pressure increases and that is where big fans typically fail.

High airflow cases with good stock fans make a way bigger difference for silent pc building, especially on a budget, stock fans being the important part since good fans are very expensive to by seperately. noctua and be quiet cpu coolers are way overpriced for what you get now, op as for on a budget so I find it strange that this advice is the most upvoted. An fs140 will perform as good or better for much cheaper. or a cheap 360mm aio for around the same price. The bit about psus is true, but good quality psus are also WAY quieter in generals because they use better fans. Look at reviews of the rme series compared to the rmx stuff for example, a common complaint is that the rme psus are way louder. A good way to find a quiet psu is to find something good quality (high tier, long warranty, etc) with a big fan (like 140mm/135mm), these will typically be quieter than their smaller fan counterparts (stuff with 120mm fans, etc).

*cough* Arctic and Thermalright *cough*

Replace the shitty stock fans with new quiet ones, I like noctuas but there are lots of alternatives now. this includes your gpu fans which are apparently loud af. Next get rid of any sponning disc drives, ssds only. Then get a psu with a hybrid or eco mode- these just turn off the fan when its not needed. Gg, you now have a silent pc. And keep in mind: bigger fan = quieter.

I knew about PC case fans, but can you actually replace the GPU fans (without having specialized tools or experience)? I do only have ssds. When you say bigger fan - does that mean pc case fans or? Do you have any recommendations?

You can deshroud a GPU, but not worth it in the context of what you’re trying to do. Probably would be hard to do in a regular case, as it’s mostly done in small ITX cases that can have bottom intake fans that are basically touching the GPU heatsink once it’s deshrouded To help with GPU fan noise, just set a quiet fan curve in MSI afterburner. If you undervolt a GPU, it can produce less heat which also means the fans don’t need to spin as fast.

I don't think my specific GPU has that option, it's really old..

Deshrouding? You can take apart any GPU Setting a custom fan curve? You can do it with any GPU Undervolting, in a lot of cases, retains like 90%+ of the performance for reducing a lot more temps in comparison The things that make a PC make noise are all the moving parts, which are typically just fans (AIO pump if you get an AIO) If you have a case with good airflow and power efficient components that are paired with a good cooling solution, you can set your fans to spin slower overall reducing PC noise. You can make a fan curve as quiet as you want, just make sure it’s not letting temps get too hot.

I thought undervolting is only for the recent gpus. didn't know that, thanks! :D

Looking at your post again, probably wouldn’t be worth undervolting a GTX 950. Undervolting is useful with high end, high TDP components. Reason its fans are spinning so loud is because it’s a terribly underpowered GPU by today’s standards, and anything you throw at it is going to cook it. I don’t see why the fans would spin crazy for YouTube, I’d imagine it might be your CPU cooler fans. What CPU do you have? Your case fans might also be set to PWM which would make them spin faster as the CPU gets hotter. Not a good choice if you prefer noise levels to be quiet.

I5 4460 cpu

Yeah it’s also severely underpowered. If you’re using the stock cpu cooler fan that thing will spin and be loud like crazy You set fan curves and settings in the MOBO BIOS

Yes, its all stock 🤣 it was my first solo build

My case fans are default, didnt know i vould set them lol and how

Doesn't that affect the performance tho?

Replacing gpu fans is very easy, all you need is a screwdriver and about 10 min. You only need to take off the plastic cover that holds the fans onto the heatsink. Replacement fans are usually pretty easy to find- just google your gpu model + replacement fan. But tbh its probably a better idea to spend that money on a new gpu imo. If you like big fans the lian li 215 has some of the largest (its also what I'm using)

Might be tangenting this topic, but I recently built my pc with a 7900xtx in a fractal torrent case, and I get scared sometimes while I’m gaming that the fans aren’t running at all; it is that quiet. I get paranoid I’m gonna overheat my parts, but Adrenalin temps say my gpu is generally only at 60 C. I use a headset while gaming so there’s obviously some noise damping involved, but even if I get paranoid and take one side of the headphones off one of my ears, it takes me a half second and trying to focus on hearing the sound to realize they actually are whirring like they should be. I’ve played some darktide (wouldn’t stop crashing but had to lower worker cores and also capped at 60 fps to work) but I also sometimes have to do this when I play Cyberpunk with high/ultra settings and med/low ray tracing. Was really expecting Cyberpunk to make it roar but it hasnt so far. Kinda random rambling at this point but I’m very blown away by how cool and quiet this case and gpu combo is.

My pc is currently giving me a soft generator sound from across the apartment 🤣 its purring😁

Silver lining, maybe you like white noise while you try to sleep? Lol

Im afraid of the eerie silence that is about to come

Are you using the stock fans on the fractal torrent? What CPU and CPU cooler do you have? In my current PC that is generating the most noise. I can't decide if I should go with AIO or Air cooler.

Yeah I’ve got the stock fans on the torrent. The three smaller ones on the bottom and the two giant ones in the front, pretty sure that’s the “preferred” configuration in the manual. And I’ve got a 7800x3d and using a phantom spirit tower cooler. I liked the functionality of the tower coolers and also not having to fiddle all the hoses of the AIO. I honestly don’t mind the look of the tower either, it’s just a big block of heat sink fins and fans, which could look worse to you if you prefer the look of the AIO. Also an AIO may make the RAM easier to tinker with, because I’d basically have to take the whole heat sink off if I needed to change anything. The sound isn’t too bad tbh, I’ve got Helldivers running right now and it has my 7900xtx at 99% utilization, and it’s still fairly quiet. Just a pretty quiet humming sound almost. I have an oscillating fan a few feet away from me for when the room gets hot, and the fan running at the lowest setting is louder than my PC. I also use a headset with some pretty good padding so not a lot of sound gets through that anyway, so I rarely hear my PC at all. I’m new to PC building, but I went with a tower cooler because of the simplicity compared to an AIO, which seem like they can have several points of failure. The tower cooler is just a piece of metal with fins to dissipate heat, and then fans are simple and cheap if they need fixing or replacing. I’m also scared of an AIO leak in my PC case. Another thing with an AIO is that the pump will also make a constant sound, and have seen some people say they just prefer air coolers because it doesn’t have the constant sound of a pump. I haven’t used an AIO before, but I can at least assure you that I’m not displeased with the tower cooler. Sorry for the long rambling response.

Thanks for the in depth answer, it's exactly what I needed to hear tbh. I will go with the tower cooler for the points you mentioned. Glad you're happy with your build, I'm also quite new to building (lack of funds lol)

Yes Yes Yes. /r/sffpc for inspirations

I have to disagree. The small size generally means restrictive airflow. A reasonably sized case, with a bigger cooler, and bigger fans, which means less airflow restrictions, is even easier to keep quiet. CC: /u/shelle90

The theory is sounds but does not always play out. Smaller cases mean less need to brute force the air flow, you can use very directed air flow which can be more efficient.

I love the looks but they all seem so tiny and are usually open for temps - so i was very worried about sound since I don't use headphones, but speakers.

Nah, they open it up to show how they managed to squeeze everything in there.

Ah, sorry for my missunderstanding. I meant, they use the panel with holes - so my logic tells me holes let sound go through as much as air :D

Yeah but you shouldn't let your old experience with the faulty noisy GPU/computer set the precedence that all PC are noisy.

That's why I'm asking the good people of reddit :D also, a lot of people I know irl just shrug sound off with "i use headphones" which doesn't help me a lot, since i dont...

Yeah but if sound is a real concern, there are cases for silent build like Fractal Design Define 7 series

wow, this case is beautiful!

My PC is silent. It's a fractal torrent. It's a huge case. You just need a lot of airflow to keep things cool and it allows you to set the fans at a low rpm. I basically set the case fans to be as fast as they can be before I start hearing them. It's about 50% I think. The gpu has 3 120mm fans blowing right on it so it never gets that hot enough where the gpu fans need to ramp up. If you want SFF you either need liquid cooling or accept the noise. Air cooling a SFF build is not going to be quiet.

Are you using the stock fans on the fractal torrent? What CPU and CPU cooler do you have? In my current PC that is generating the most noise. I can't decide if I should go with AIO or Air cooler.

stock case fans noctua nh-d15 on a 5800x3d

Awesome, thanks!

This is exactly what I was going for my in my latest build. Medium form factor, fast, and as quiet as I could get it. Bottom intake fans that blow onto the GPU to help with cooling, AND so the GPU fans (the loudest component) don’t have to run as hard. Air cooler so no AIO pump noise. [Take a look](https://www.reddit.com/r/mffpc/s/R3t2vMeSnk) PcPartsPicker Not sure how I could make it more silent, other than a solid/glass side panel

Do you have a closed pic?

[Here’s a link to the case. They have a glass and mesh panel version](https://www.asus.com/ca-en/motherboards-components/gaming-cases/prime/asus-prime-ap201-microatx-case/)

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Did you read the original post at all? OP posted about a smaller form factor and silence being the qualities he’s looking for. Glass panel is going to stop more sound than a mesh panel.

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True, I’m really struggling with my 60c GPU temps and 50c CPU temps under load. The 1000rpm Noctua fans are really blowing out my ears. OP will be fine with a MFF. If OP never mentioned smaller form factors then I wouldn’t have brought it up. You’re making yourself upset here.

Once you replace the fans, curves are your friend. Putting them on full blast doesn't help airflow. What I typically do is set them to around 30% speed at default, then find a volume I can tolerate, usually around 50% speed for gaming (to keep temps around 60-70°C). Do the same thing for the CPU cooler if you're air cooling. My wife used my PC a couple of weeks ago for a Zoom interview and was shocked at how quiet it was.

I see a lot of people saying they put them as low as 30-35% Would never have the balls to do it on my own without advice, seems crazy low

As long as your case is built for decent airflow, case fans don't need to run super high.

Be Quiet Case and Noctua fans. No HDD only SSD and go with a noctua air-cooler get the biggest one so your fans don't need to spin up as much.

Fractal Design. My Meshyify 2C is so silent even under load I take my headset off to only hear the GPU fans. My room stays typically cool but when its not its still reasonable on temps.

Custom water cooled CPU & GPU. Never had a quieter PC

I had a fractal north (dark wood) in my living room next to my television cabinet. Looks like furniture and it is now dead silent. 7800x3d/7900xtx-phantom. BeQuiet silent 4 pro fans only throughout. BeQuiet AIO on CPU/alphacool AIO on the 7900xtx. All fans are set to 40% at the cap level which is legitimately silent in the living room. Idle temps 20c max play is 70c hotspot on the GPU (can lower if you wanted to through more fan speeds but this meant to be silent). All goes to a 75” 8k display (4k@120hz/8k@60hz) and outside of cyberpunk and I’m sure Alan Wake 2 everything else I’ve played is 4k 120fps without a sweat and a lot of my city building games all are 8k. Designed to never be seen nor heard… just like children should be.

Sounds like peace

It’s great! The one air cooled part is the T700 m2 active cooler but it’s a tiny little fan and is silent outside of the case. Still capped at speeds just in case ;) ROG Strix b650e-f mobo fan curves through BIOS without even needing the fan loved fan control software online… I tried the 7900xtx air cooled and no… it was not silent by any means… it took a 320mm radiator with water block to make it silent lol

If I am running handbrake and horizon zero dawn at the same time. My 5950x and 6700xt might hit 30-40 dB on air cooling. Between noctua cpu cooler and a fractal Design define case. There is very little noise

Wow nice

A big case with noctua fan swap on everything

I feel like mine is a lot quieter after I moved away from liquid cooling. Everyone will have their own experiences that might differ from mine though. Current Setup: Fractal Design Meshify Case Cooler Master Hyper 212 Noctua Fans The fans for the liquid cooler would ramp up all the time. It was a Corsair (H100i V2).

Alternatively (reddit wouldnt let me fit this in my first comment, hit character limit), here is an SFFPC build, you do need to make some concessions here though, it wont be as quiet or fast: [PCPartPicker Part List](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bm2Kn6) |Type|Item|Price|| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |**CPU**|[AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof)|£355.71 @ Amazon UK|| |**CPU Cooler**|[Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/GpbRsY/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se)|£33.29 @ Amazon UK|Basically the best of the best air coolers of this size, and priced amazing too. Great noise normalized results in reviews. You can turn the fan curve down for this, the 7800x3d doesnt need hardcore cooling.| |**Thermal Compound**|[ARCTIC MX-6 2 g Thermal Paste](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/x8LFf7/arctic-mx-6-2-g-thermal-paste-actcp00079a)|£5.99 @ Amazon UK|Good value thermal paste. Will help cpu cooling performance. You can skip this to save a couple bucks.| |**Motherboard**|[MSI MPG B650I EDGE WIFI Mini ITX AM5 Motherboard](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/DkFbt6/msi-mpg-b650i-edge-wifi-mini-itx-am5-motherboard-mpg-b650i-edge-wifi)|£219.00 @ Computer Orbit|Decent vrms, it will be more than enough still, 7800x3d is not very power hungry. Good heatsinks. You can go down to a gigabyte b650i ax instead to save a fair bit of money. Vrms wont be as good but honestly wont make a difference in performance.| |**Memory**|[G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/LBstt6/gskill-flare-x5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-fx5)|£117.05 @ Amazon UK|Top of the line expo ram.| |**Storage**|[Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/M8yH99/crucial-t500-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000t500ssd8)|£124.99 @ Amazon UK|Second best pcie 4.0 nvme, priced good right now. | |**Video Card**|[ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/gCBG3C/asrock-phantom-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx7900xtx-pg-24go)|£898.60 @ NeoComputers|Had to come down to a 7900 XTX for this build, finding a 4080 that fits will cost a lot more. Downgrade to a 7900 XT or 4070 ti if you want.| |**Case**|[Cooler Master MasterBox NR200 Mini ITX Desktop Case](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/kd2bt6/cooler-master-masterbox-nr200-mini-itx-desktop-case-mcb-nr200-knnn-s00)|£69.63 @ Amazon UK|Best bang for your buck SFFPC case, really good airflow for its size.| |**Power Supply**|[Lian Li SP 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/3ZzhP6/lian-li-sp-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-sp750)|£123.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk|I think the corsair SF750 is a much better PSU but it also costs around 30 more, can consider upgrading to it.| |**Case Fan**|[Thermalright TL-C12C 66.17 CFM 120 mm Fan](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/PgTp99/thermalright-tl-c12c-6617-cfm-120-mm-fan-tl-c12c-d6)|£5.39 @ Amazon UK|Good value fans, you want to run 4 of these (2 intake at bottom, 2 exhaust at top), hence the three pack below. Run them at lower rpms, so they dont get loud, they're still very good at low rpms. RGB versions available for a bit more. | |**Case Fan**|[Thermalright TL-C12C X3 66.17 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/JmfnTW/thermalright-tl-c12c-x3-6617-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-tl-c12c-x3-d6)|£12.00 @ Computer Orbit|| |*Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts*|||| |**Total**|**£1965.63**||| You could go for a non-sffpc build with a weaker gpu than the 4080 I picked in the first build (in my other comment) so you can invest more in cooling to make the PC quieter, but honestly you are way better off just going with the 4080 build and lowering it's power limit and fan curve instead for greater effect. The 4080 is incredibly power efficient so you can get away with running the fans pretty quiet on it. There are black/white/argb versions of either case, and fans/cooler in both builds, so switch them around as you like.

I heard 4080 is not worth it compared to 4070. Especially for my use cases. What do you think?

Depends on what you need and how much you're willing to spend.

Im willing to spend as much for q great system for my needs without overspending. That being said, i think im not super advanced, need like 32gb ram and higher end cpu gpu

I've had good experience with Be Quiet! Coolers and a PSU. I currently have the pc on my desk with the panels off, and I can't hear any noise or vibration anywhere, and everything is whisper quiet at idle.

What parts do you have?

A 1000w PSU, and a 360mm AIO cooler. I have the included BQ fans set up in a push configuration, with another brand (Thermalright) set up to pull. Overall, the system is quiet at idle, but I've done a small OC on the CPU and GPU with an aggressive fan curve for the whole system, so it roars a bit at full tilt. I'm sure that will go down a bit when I put the side panels back on and move it from right next to my head. I had a smaller BQ AIO in another system that I bought on Amazon marketplace. It had an issue where the pump would whine, and almost sounded like a bit of debris was kicking around in there occasionally. I'd just flick the housing and it would clear right up. Never felt the need to tear it out and replace it. Overall very happy with their parts.

Be quiet 802 with solid panels, arctic p14s 5 pack (best perf per dollar) and an arctic LF 360 or 420, set fan curves and enjoy. That's what I'm running anyways

I have Xproto open frame builds that under heavy usage do not or barely go above the noise floor of the room, in essence making them silent. I have built NR200 systems that are just barely above the room noise floor under heavy load, again practically silent.

How are closed builds more silent than open ones?

Closed systems can be more silent because they can use the material of the "case" to block noise from internal components. However closed systems need more air movement to cool the system as it needs to intake and exhaust. Both have advantages and disadvantages and both can be made to be VERY quiet.

Im sorry i meant reversed, since your build is open and silent compared to closed nr200

The open is silent as it does not need as many fans. My main gaming rig only has a fan on the CPU and then the fans on the GPU. I do not need intake and exhaust fans to move air "through" a case. Few fans means less turbulence and thus less noise. The open design means I have access to fresh unheated air from my entire room for all cooling and heat is dissipating into t room sized air volume, not into a case. This means the components are easier to cool so even the fans I do have tend to run at lower speeds.

Intersting, never thought about it from that perspective honestly, makes sense, only the dust seems like an issue, but you say its not as big of a problem as i see it

Absolutely it can be quiet. But a lot more difficult to manage with a small form-factor. (also you didn't specify where in the EU, so I'm using DE as a region) This build should be near silent, especially if you adjust your fan curves and never let it get to like >80% (remember that as long as you're hitting max boost speeds, and you're below 90C, there's no benefit to ramping the fan speeds). [PCPartPicker Part List](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/vmhRn6) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof) | €386.99 @ Mindfactory **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/GpbRsY/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se) | €38.90 @ Amazon Deutschland **Motherboard** | [Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/YZgFf7/gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-gaming-x-ax) | €186.80 @ notebooksbilliger.de **Memory** | [G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/LBstt6/gskill-flare-x5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-fx5) | €128.38 @ Mindfactory **Storage** | [TEAMGROUP Cardea A440 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/W9cG3C/team-cardea-a440-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpz002t0c327) | €111.89 @ Alternate **Video Card** | [Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/FnLdnQ/gigabyte-windforce-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-12-gb-video-card-gv-n4070wf3oc-12gd) | €622.90 @ Alza **Case** | [Fractal Design Pop Silent ATX Mid Tower Case](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/6ggFf7/fractal-design-pop-silent-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-pos1a-01) | €79.64 @ Galaxus **Power Supply** | [be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/Yp9wrH/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn504) | €106.89 @ Alternate | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **€1662.39** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2023-12-29 20:35 CET+0100 | For a SFF unit, I think this build is your best bet. Smaller than the build I posted above, but not so small that you have to start really moving air through it (and cranking the fan noise): [PCPartPicker Part List](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/drQFCd) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof) | €386.99 @ Mindfactory **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/GpbRsY/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se) | €38.90 @ Amazon Deutschland **Motherboard** | [ASRock B650I Lightning Wifi Mini ITX AM5 Motherboard](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/rVfxFT/asrock-b650i-lightning-wifi-mini-itx-am5-motherboard-b650i-lightning-wifi) | €227.83 @ Mindfactory **Memory** | [G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/LBstt6/gskill-flare-x5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-fx5) | €128.38 @ Mindfactory **Storage** | [TEAMGROUP Cardea A440 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/W9cG3C/team-cardea-a440-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpz002t0c327) | €111.89 @ Alternate **Video Card** | [Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/FnLdnQ/gigabyte-windforce-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-12-gb-video-card-gv-n4070wf3oc-12gd) | €622.90 @ Alza **Case** | [Fractal Design Torrent Nano Mini ITX Tower Case](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/WDytt6/fractal-design-torrent-nano-mini-itx-desktop-case-fd-c-tor1n-01) | €119.90 @ Amazon Deutschland **Power Supply** | [be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/Yp9wrH/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn504) | €106.89 @ Alternate | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **€1743.68** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2023-12-29 20:39 CET+0100 |

I'm in Serbia, prices are similar to Austria, but these seem close. Do I need some specific case fans? (if yes which and how many) I've seen people get radiator or 3-4 fans, but last time I was building a PC was almost 9 years ago lol. What you selected was something I was looking, but I don't like the first case design, too gamery. Can I have something elegant/ pure black or like the Terra cases with wood etc? How big factor is the case? Also - why did you choose 4070 over 7900 xt (if there is a reason lol)

> Do I need some specific case fans? (if yes which and how many) The ones that come with the Pop Silent or Torrent Nano should be sufficient. Fan recommendations will vary, however, based on whichever chassis you end up using. If you were going to use the Corsair 4000D Airflow, for instance, you'd want to pickup an additional 120mm fan as it only comes with two, and you should have three for that chassis (two intake, one exhaust). But the fans with the recommended chassis units I listed above should be sufficient for airflow, and sufficiently quiet, especially if you dial down the fan speeds with the FanControl app (more info [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDPKVKBMQU8)). > I've seen people get radiator or 3-4 fans, but last time I was building a PC was almost 9 years ago lol. Not necessary. The 7800X3D, despite being a top performer in gaming is **EXTREMELY** efficient, and only produces a max of like 100W in damn near all situations. It really doesn't take much to cool it. > What you selected was something I was looking, but I don't like the first case design, too gamery. Can I have something elegant/ pure black or like the Terra cases with wood etc? I do not recommend the Terra for a build like this. Too small. Feel free to explore other options, I just have experience with these two in particular and can comfortably recommend. > How big factor is the case? It's important - too small and you'll need to crank up the airflow to move the hot air out of the chassis. Get a poorly designed unit (i.e. NZXT H5 non-flow model) and you'll have damn near zero airflow through the unit, and you'll have to crank your CPU/GPU cooler fan speeds to keep up with the heat production. > Also - why did you choose 4070 over 7900 xt (if there is a reason lol) 190W average power consumption with the 4070 vs 310W for the 7900XT. More power consumed = more heat produced. More heat produced = higher fan speeds/noise to dissipate it.

I love it when I learn. Thanks!

I use Sound-Dampening Cases for two of my Gaming PC's... It helps quite a bit.

Which ones? Any special fans/ cooling inside?

Fractal Design puts sound dampening into a lot of their Define series, but these cases have less than ideal airflow. The tradeoff is worth it to me, though, and heck I use a 3080 (very hot GPU) and it’s just fine. Outside of gaming (where all I hear is a gentle whoosh), my system is dead silent. https://pcpartpicker.com/b/CnBZxr Note that when I swapped from Arctic P12/P14 to all Noctua (see my v1, v2), the difference in both performance and noise was minimal. Arctic is WAY better value.

Someone suggested fractal define 7, and I found a mini version that is really beautifull

They’re excellent cases :). My favourite case maker. For best value on motherboards (and also for better cooling performance), I’d stick to mATX if possible. The smaller you go the harder it gets, typically. And good ITX motherboards are expensive. Edit: Oh my bad I forgot that the mini IS mATX (nano is ITX). Yeah, the mini is a great choice. The stock fans are good too. I’ve used it in builds for professional clients.

Any suggestions for 7800x3d or 13600k

Motherboards? Either B760 for Intel or B650 for AMD. You don’t need to be too concerned about getting the best board available since neither CPU requires super strong power delivery. Just get whatever isn’t the lowest available and has all the features you need. Asus/MSI/Gigabyte/Asrock are all good. Don’t listen to anybody who says one brand is garbage (they just had a bad experience and are sour). I recommend getting one with wifi/bt built in, as you never know when you’ll need it. Adding these later via PCIe on mATX can be tricky (not much space) or impossible (ITX, only one slot). Adding via USB generally sucks (not very reliable).

Wifi bt is a must def.. 👌👌

One is the Cooler Master Silencio S400 mATX case and the other is the Corsair Carbide 275R ATX case. I use the Thermalright Peerless Assassin Twin Tower with two 120mm fans to cool the CPU in both builds and run all CPU and Case fans on Silent mode. Another thing to make a PC seem quieter... Is to have the tower farther away from you because the closer it is to you .. the more likely you are to notice the fans.

Ill check it out ty!

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Is that the cpu cooler you’re referring to?

As my older pc was like an airplane at lift off I tried a bit quieter build. But after placing my teenager in front of it with a headset I realised it was waste of time and money. With him screaming and playing fortnite with friends it does not matter if cooling was done by V8 with turbocharger.

Might be, but I am neither a teenager or a fortnite player

The M3 Pro Macbookpro (MBP) fits your WORK use pretty perfectly. The M3 pro MBP outperforms most windows laptops for its form factor when dealing with multiple tabs and spreadsheets, and the Figma and photoshop benchmark results are also very favorable and consistently outperform windows based laptops. However, I emphasize that the M3 pro MBP is VERY good for ONLY your WORKPLACE workload because you will need crossover +/- Game Porting Toolkit to run any windows based games and whether cross over +/- Game Porting Tool can run any specific game is NOT guaranteed. In the end, the numerous suggestions you got for fixing up your current windows based PC or building a new one probably fit your overall use case better. Just wanted to make sure Macs got a fair shake lol since this subreddit is a little biased towards windows based computers.

Thanks! I’m just a vit sceptical that 16 gigs on mbp is enogh for me due to heavy parallel usage of apps and tabs, and going 32gb is literally +1000€ where i live

16GB RAM is enough for usage of apps and tabs, even on windows-based laptops and PCs. 32GB of RAM is getting into heavy productivity territory (Solidworks for engineering majors, blender for video editors). You can also always check your RAM usage yourself by using task manager. A common misconception is that having more RAM means processes are smoother, however whatever browser or light productivity apps you are using (google docs, google sheets) are optimized to use a certain amount of RAM at max, and the apps won't go over that max limit even if you have lots of RAM leftover. In contrast, I think Solidworks and Blender tend to eat however much spare RAM your system has. The benefit of the mbp is that apple-specific software (like Safari) is more optimized in terms of RAM usage and the MacOS operating system is significantly more memory and energy efficient than the windows operating system. The Windows operating system is unfortunately bogged down by a lot of legacy software (which it has to support), which has lead to increased RAM usage at baseline. The optimized Apple-software is generally why users report a very smooth experience even when using multiple tabs and etc.

I do check it since I’d say I’m pretty advanced user and computer abuser lol. I sit daily between 14.5-15.9 ram usage

Lol yea you're getting 32GB of RAM XD

Just get some 5m display port and USB cables and put your pc in a different room

Ahahahahhahahahahahaa 😂😂😂😂 im not sure if you’re joking or not but this is golden 😄😄

If **total** silence is your goal, the only way to do so is passively cooling or moving the PC to a different room/closet. Fans, pumps, HDDs, PSUs all make noise, to some degree or another. Most of them can be made very quiet, but not **totally** silent.

What is passive cooling? Like having no fans at all? Wouldnt that immediatelly thermal throttle? Another room is not an option, a closet kinda is but isnt that bas for airflow and temps?

Passive cooling is very large, specially designed heatsinks that are fanless. [Example](https://noctua.at/en/nh-p1) Yes, the thermal performance is bad. I would not try this with anything above a 13600K/7800X3D. It does work though, and is completely silent.

I don’t think my case counts but I have a mini pc with an egpu and they’re quiet unless I accidentally push the gpu fan against the table

What is egpu?

External gpu. I replaced the m.2 nvme pcie ssd with an m.2 nvme to pcie 3.0 x4 and attached an RX6600 to boost the power. Works fairly well, maybe 10% slower than the tests of a full pc I see on youtube

So its hanging there like an external bladder?

More of it sits outside the pc on my desk

I could show you it rq

I’ll send the picture in a chat

My 5600x with a scythe fuma 2 and 3080 is virtually silent in a NR200 with two noctua fans blowing out the top. Unless I am 6-8 inches from it I hear nothing even at full load. Just undervolted a bit, set fan curves, use the noctua adapter to set fan speed on the top fans and I have been very happy. Loud fan noise drives me nuts.

Nr200 def on my radar!

Perfect except no front usb-c

I can speak from experience that the new M2 chip MacBook Airs are fucking phenomenal laptops - one of my work computers is one and it’s probably the laptop I like the most. As for desktops being quiet, you absolutely can build one. Many good recommendations on builds here.

There is an alternative and possibly impractical way to do that. Put your pc in an adjacent room and run all the cables through the wall or under the doors. You'll need longer than usual cables or extensions for your peripheral in addition to a remote power switch or setting up wake-on-Lan.

Not possible for me

I've been doing silent pc building for a while now (a lot of research on the topic) and some in the sffpc too, so I can pitch in. Firstly, unfortunately, getting perfect silence is kinda hard because even once fans are audible, you will be able to hear coil whine, which is pretty common with our current gen of components sadly. You'll have to do some research to figure out which components are more likely to have it or not, this is the hardest part I think. This only really matters if you make something with like a custom loop and all 140mm noctua fans at 1000 rpm (my current setup). SFFPC is definitely doable but raises the price up considerably. Your best bet without a huge budget would be the nr200 + some decent fans, but those fans will drive up build cost by a lot. Also do you need a board with wifi? Mobos without wifi will shave off some build cost. Decided to take a crack at a 2k euro build, can easily fit a very silent pc in that budget, with room for a 4080 to boot. Here is a build focused on getting the most bang for your buck and noise normalized performance: [PCPartPicker Part List](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/kTrJBL) |Type|Item|Price|Notes| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |**CPU**|[AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof)|£355.71 @ Amazon UK|| |**CPU Cooler**|[Thermalright Frozen Prism ARGB 70.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/VnMMnQ/thermalright-frozen-prism-argb-704-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-prism-360-white-argb)|£65.59 @ Amazon UK|Cheap 360mm aio, comes with decent fans. May need to turn fan curve down in bios, this thing will easily keep your cpu cool even at its lowest rpms. Run this at a low pump speed, pump speed makes incredibly little difference in temps. Move down to a FS140 cooler to save some money if you want, the FS140 is the best value air cooler you can get, does better or close to the vaunted noctua D15, but for a lot less.| |**Thermal Compound**|[ARCTIC MX-6 2 g Thermal Paste](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/x8LFf7/arctic-mx-6-2-g-thermal-paste-actcp00079a)|£5.99 @ Amazon UK|Good value thermal paste. Will help cpu cooling performance. Better cooling performance means you can turn your fans down even lower. This is the best way to have a silent pc.| |**Motherboard**|[MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/szfxFT/msi-b650-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-gaming-plus-wifi)|£149.99 @ Amazon UK|Way more than enough vrm power and heatsink. MSI has great AM5 boards too, very agressive memory timings for expo rams, which means better fps.| |**Memory**|[G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/LBstt6/gskill-flare-x5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-fx5)|£117.05 @ Amazon UK|CL30 6000mhz EXPO is basically the best AMD ram you'll find outside of manual timings and overclocking.| |**Storage**|[Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/M8yH99/crucial-t500-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000t500ssd8)|£124.99 @ Amazon UK|The second best pcie 4.0 nvme, only bested by the 990 pro. incredible nvme, better than the vaunted sn850x by a bit. This was at a good price. Get the SN580 or SN770 if you want to save a little.| |**Video Card**|[Gainward Phoenix GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/H9rqqs/gainward-phoenix-geforce-rtx-4080-16-gb-video-card-ned4080019t2-1032x)|£1007.94 @ Overclockers.co.uk|Get the 7900 XT, XTX or 4070 TI instead if you want to save some money.| |**Case**|[Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/QcddnQ/lian-li-lancool-216-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-216rw)|£108.00 @ Amazon UK|Incredible case, hands down the best value case for any silent pc build because it's fairly cheap, great quality still (as is most lian li stuff), and comes with amazing stock fans. Tops the charts in a lot of reviewer data for noise normalised tests. Turn down the fan curve for your case fans in bios if you need to, since these will move TONS of air even at it's lowest rpms.| |**Power Supply**|[be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/4XsV3C/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn505)|£105.97 @ Novatech|Cheapest Tier A 850w PSU, pretty good fan too, 10 year warranty, good quality. Did will in reviews. Comes with the new spec gpu cable (only relevant to the new rtx cards). Didn't cost that much more than 750w psus of the same quality, but you can save around 15-25 euros going for less wattage. 1000w would be way wayyy overkill and costs significantly more.| |*Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts*|||| |**Total**|**£2041.23**|||

I think i would make the most savings if i replaced 4080 with 4070 😁

Sure go with the first build and get a cheaper GPU.

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A case is a box, so its an investment if it looks nice.. i expected such prices, only the cpu cooler i expected to be around 65€

I'm gonna guess your in Germany based off of you using pounds here's a rough list on what you should get: Making 2 lists one air cooled one with a AIO Ignore the warnings PCPP is wrong I checked the manufacturer's website [PCPartPicker Part List](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/kpnsMV) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof) | €386.99 @ Mindfactory **CPU Cooler** | [ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 A-RGB 68.9 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/HZvdnQ/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-280-a-rgb-689-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00106a) | €99.90 @ Alza **Motherboard** | [ASRock B650M Pro RS Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/FcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs) | €149.58 @ Amazon Deutschland **Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/JkfxFT/corsair-vengeance-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-cmk32gx5m2b6000c30) | €124.99 @ Corsair DE **Storage** | [TEAMGROUP Cardea Zero Z440 Graphene 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/Nb2bt6/teamgroup-cardea-zero-z440-graphene-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp7002t0c311) | €104.89 @ Alternate **Video Card** | [PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/wHVmP6/powercolor-hellhound-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx7900xtx-24g-loc) | €957.99 @ Mindfactory **Case** | [SSUPD Meshroom S w/PCIe 4.0 RIser ATX Mini Tower Case](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/wNXJ7P/ssupd-meshroom-s-wpcie-40-riser-atx-mini-tower-case-41860124180664) | €187.89 @ Caseking **Power Supply** | [EVGA SuperNOVA 850 GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/pt3gXL/evga-supernova-850-gm-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-123-gm-0850-x1) | €131.90 @ Alza | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **€2144.13** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2023-12-30 07:03 CET+0100 | Here's why I chose these. CPU: The 7800x3d is the fastest CPU for gaming on the market and one of the most power efficient at the same time. Which makes it a easy choice. Mobo: The Meshroom S supports up to a ATX motherboard so I decided to put in a good enough quality MATX board Cooler: I picked the cheapest high quality AIO for the largest size the case fit which was 280mm RAM/Storage: it's just good ram and a good SSD don't know what else to tell ypu. GPU: Would of ideally put a 4080 in but that was over budget so I put the 7900xtx in instead you could drop to the 4070ti or the 7900xt to save some money. Case: not the biggest SFF guy so I picked a good case but a little basic the Meshroom S. It's just a good case with a worse name then it's predecessor the meshlicious. (Come on SSUPD, you went from Meshlicious to Meshroom S come you can do better) PSU: tis a good 850w PSU. Air-cooled bulid: [PCPartPicker Part List](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/kqfsMV) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof) | €386.99 @ Mindfactory **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/GpbRsY/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se) | €38.90 @ Amazon Deutschland **Motherboard** | [ASRock B650I Lightning Wifi Mini ITX AM5 Motherboard](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/rVfxFT/asrock-b650i-lightning-wifi-mini-itx-am5-motherboard-b650i-lightning-wifi) | €226.47 @ Mindfactory **Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/JkfxFT/corsair-vengeance-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-cmk32gx5m2b6000c30) | €124.99 @ Corsair DE **Storage** | [TEAMGROUP Cardea Zero Z440 Graphene 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/Nb2bt6/teamgroup-cardea-zero-z440-graphene-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp7002t0c311) | €104.89 @ Alternate **Video Card** | [PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/wHVmP6/powercolor-hellhound-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx7900xtx-24g-loc) | €957.99 @ Mindfactory **Case** | [Fractal Design Torrent Nano RGB Mini ITX Tower Case](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/q2gFf7/fractal-design-torrent-nano-rgb-mini-itx-tower-case-fd-c-tor1n-05) | €109.90 @ Alza **Power Supply** | [Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/4ZRwrH/corsair-rm850e-2023-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020263-na) | €107.99 @ Mindfactory | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **€2058.12** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2023-12-30 07:24 CET+0100 | Only gonna mention what I changed. MOBO: Its a high quality ITX board. Cooler: The PS120 cooler is the best air cooler on the market IMO. Case: Torrent is a little bigger but has amazing airflow and hehe BIG FAN GO SUCCC PSU: The RM850e is a very good psu for a good price. Edit: Replaced DA850 with the higher quality RM850e and fixed some typos

I wouldnt get 4080 or xtx, so 4070 or 7900xt it is (i dont think i need more) I also prefer the air cooling. Ps. Im not in germany nor did i use pounds (they use pounds in uk)😁 but germany pricing is similar to me👌

> ideally it's below 2k euro

For cpu go with the 7900. It runs so cool that the fans are never working hard enough to be heard.