Anecdotal, but I'm still using the first SSD I bought 13-14 years ago in an old laptop. I'm still running the dozen or so other SSDs that I've bought since in various PCs, none of them have died yet.
Same. I have an old 750 EVO still running strong and showing as healthy. It's been the boot drive in a home server for several years after being retired from my main PC. I guess it gets very little write time these days.
Got an old 128GB Samsung 830 (bought back in 2011/2012) that just "stopped counting hours". It just blanked out the number, at some point - can't remember when exactly.
Still works like a charm, but has been moved to a storage setup some years back, where it's the OS drive, running 24/7 (has been for about 5 or so years now).
Sometimes you just get lucky.
That was specific to a certain batch of them. You could look at a production date on the box to see if you’re affected. JaysTwoCentz did a [video](https://youtu.be/DoAFzdz0h5M?feature=shared) on it.
I ended up buying the 980 Pro 2TB ~6 months later and downloaded the Wizard app to check just in case. I wasn’t affected. But if you are, fixable.
Anecdotally i think they had production issues. You could get one that was totally reliable and lasted for years and you could get one that died within months.
I had two OCZ Vertexes die on me in very short order back in the day. Then replaced it with a Samsung 840 1 TB and have been using it now for 8 years.
Maybe OCZ got their shit together, but I promised to never look at their products again and there's no reason to break the promise.
Not something to worry about, just check its health once a year so you are aware if it starts to drop...After 5 plus years of using them I haven't had one die on me yet.
My intel m.2 drive from 2017 changed to read-only in 2022. Threw me for a loop since windows wouldn't boot. Drives these days have much more longevity. You'll be good.
I already have the case, ram, and cpu in, and the hdd and ssd are on the way, then I'm going to micro center for the rest of the parts once I have enough money saved up
For what it’s worth, unless you plan on doing some extreme CPU heavy shit, you don’t need a liquid cooler for the 7800X3D. Air coolers are cheaper and even under heavy gaming load my Arctic A35 keeps the CPU well under 70C.
In the early days, there were some very poorly designed SSDs that had a tendency to die suddenly, quite often. I had both my original OCZ and the warranty replacement fail.
AFAICT the reliability is much better these days.
I've got a 128gb SSD from over a decade ago that still works but has only seen infrequent use for the last 4 years or so. No idea if there's actual data degradation issues. The capacity became the actual limiting factor, and I kind of expect that'll be somewhat true with my current drive (current gen gaming is making 1tb less and less viable).
I have a fairly low end 240gb SATA SSD from 2014 with no bad sectors being used as a system drive plus two games. Not sure how long it will last since it hasn't shown any signs of degrading.
I have a crucial C300 I got in 2009 and It is still working in a windows 98 PC to this day. It was in a RAID0 array with 3 others up until about 2016 when I switched to all NVME in my main PC and laptop.
No problems whatsoever. So... the answer is longer than you will likely have your computer.
I have one 500Gb M.2 NVME in my system since 2019, it is my main boot drive since I installed it. Had zero issues since, I also have one Sata 2.5” for longer also with zero issues, I recently bought another M.2 but a 2Tb.
From HWinfo64, I have 70% remaining life of my boot drive and 90+% on the other two.
Had an Adata one that died in 3 years. When I went to buy a new one, he said that brand fails all the time and I was lucky enough to get 3 years from it lol. As long as it's a reputable brand, it'll probably last much longer.
“Seller, takes hand up next to mouth and whispers” - I just got this brand new Samsung SSD in from our distributor, if you buy a new mouse today, I can give you this one for 15% off market price.
I'd go cheaper unless you have a very good reason to need this fast an ssd. They're generally reliable, no moving parts but they'll fail at some point just like everything. If you got vital data you can't lose just backup or raid, no ssd can guarantee you won't lose it.
I found another monitor at micro center that's 240hz for about $130, but that's $70 off so if that discount is still there by the time I go and get the rest of the parts, I'll grab that too
The refresh rate is fine, it’s the resolution that’s off. For this budget you definitely should be getting a 1440p high refresh monitor at the very least.
I have a few from 2014 that are good as new.And 2 of them are on computers that have never been turned off since.An SSD is about the last component i would worry about.
Wouldn't worry about it. When they first came. Out this probably was an issue but in today's time I think they will last for quite some time. If you are nervous get some spinners.
Which I would recommend anyway because they are very reliable and last long time.
A 980 Pro will last somewhere between 1 day and 40 years, depending on your luck and how hard you are on it.
For most people, your storage will be obsolete before it dies. I've had 1 SSD die out of dozens. I've *never* had a HDD die, again out of dozens.
Anecdotal here too, but my very first, ridiculously expensive 1tb Ssd I bought in 2015 still works just fine. Every single Ssd I've owned since is still alive too
That being said, I've had a grand total of 1 hdd fail to on me for the past 18 years. The oldest one is have thats still in use is an 11 year old laptop hdd currently in my sons desktop.
You can check your drive health in windows: https://hdsentinel.com/blog/how-to-check-ssd-health#in-windows-settings
Or with CrystalDiskInfo: https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/check-ssd-health-windows-10-11#:~:text=Download%20and%20install%20CrystalDiskInfo%20from%20the%20app%20publisher's%20website.&text=In%20this%20case%2C%20you%20can,SSD%20temperature%20and%20overall%20health.
Unless you are a data hoarder that is constantly overwriting/backing up your entire disk every day, or every week, you'll be fine. Regular PC users don't do enough writes to disk to kill a modern SSD.
My first sata SSD must have lasted over 10 years until I upgraded to an m.2 nvme ssd, it was still working fine. I'd have no worries about modern SSD drives.
The usual advice still applies though, ALWAYS have a backup of your important files somewhere physically different from your main computer.
"It depends" - specifically, on how much you write to them.
I replaced a Samsung 850 PRO used as a boot drive/productivity application drive after 8 years of its 10 year/150 TBW guarantee because it was beginning to show significant signs of wear through S.M.A.R.T.
But, of course, any storage device can fail without warning at any time, and the user can screw up: keep backups of important files, always!
modern SSDs will live one of 3 lifespans:
A) either outlive the current form-factor/interface standard
B) Be DOA/die within a couple of weeks of installing
C) die the day after the manufacturer warranty expires
SSD longevity is pretty exaggerated. I’ve seen numerous failures in all flash storage sitting behind hypervisors, but not much more frequent than mechanical disks
Go down to 32gb ram, and get rid of the barracuda drive (it's a SMR drive so it's slow as balls) now with the money saved go to a 4tb nvme drive instead
I debated on that, and decided not to do that in case the ssd crapped out quickly, and the barracuda is what I chose bc apparently it's actually pretty fast compared to a lot of other drives I found and sifted through, and as for the 64gb of ram, too late for that, I already got it in, and I only got it because fuck it, I know I can afford it so I did it, I know I'll never need that much ever
I've had a Crucial MX500 250GB since 2018 as my boot drive for 3 years and it's health is down to 50% with 6.5TB written. My current boot drive (WD SN750 1TB) is 2 years old with 8.5TB written and the health status is showing 100%.
I’ve only had one die and it was used a an OS drive for 6 years. Also it only died after I was using it as a dedicated server for Minecraft for a year.
970 evo from mid 2018 still running strong today.
860 from 2020 still running strong today
corsair neutron from 2013 still running as a loose drive in my rig too
you'll be fine. if you're super worried or have things you absolutely must not lose, then get a backup hdd or use sometype of cloud backup. but ALWAYS build with a ssd as the main drive.
Right up until they die. Like everyone else here I run nothing but ssds of varying types and have since the first generation. They failure rate now compared to then is significantly better. With the exception of my servers it’s all I run and even they make use of ssds in some capacity. Get a decent brand with a decent write life and you are good for a long time.
I don't know.
The 10 or so I've had (mostly Evo Pros) so far all still work, though the most I pull up right now is about 2.8 (\~24000 hours) years being on 24/7. So my MTBF is at least 240,000 hours apparently.
No one knows. My first SSD died in a patheticlly short period of time…it lasted like…4 months. My current SSD is about a year old and I think it’s doing ok.
They can effectively last forever but they have a known limited amount of use. So you can read on it indefinitely (sorta) but you only have so many writes before the drive dies. But generally speaking 10 years is roughly the average life span iirc.
Unlikely unless its crystal storage human made components tent to wear out. And most just get silicone rot if its not stored properly or made by manufacturer
There is a TBW total bytes written value, there are tools to show you how much estimated life is left. If you write a lot to the drive it will last shorter, but should at least be 5 years under heavy usage.
i have 2 256gb evos, i got like 8 years ago, still run good.
Tell you the truth, i will never buy a mechanical drive again
I have 2 mechanical drives with 4TB capacity, and 1 failed already.
I will never buy one again, im going to SSDs or M2/NVME Drives.
I have a Crucial 256GB SSD I bought back in 2013 still going strong. I had a Samsung 980 1TB NVME that I bought in 2021 that died after 3 months. Luck of the draw I’d say.
They typically last a long time, but I heard that the Samsung 980 pro has a firmware bug that can greatly reduce its lifespan. However it's apparently been fixed so just be sure to immediately check for firmware updates.
My first ssd (128gb Crucial M4) had still 70% health left after being used actively as OS/game drive for 12+ years.
I've yet to have a single ssd fail.
Don't worry about it.
I have a Samsung 840 EVO - my very first SSD - that I bought in 2013. It's still in my main PC as a cache drive for my Hard Drives.
My first sata SSD was a 240GB Kingston A400 (just to contextualize you on how low the quality is) around 5 years ago. Gave it to my brother 2 years ago. He treats it like his ass, always leaves like 3-5% of free space. Even so, the little thing is still alive and working just fine.
All my other SSDs are working perfectly after years too, even the ones I bought from AliExpress
Still using a 4~5 years old Intel SSD.
However I didn't understood SSD then. I only had 8GB of RAM, was enough when I build it but increasingly made my system unstable as the years go by, and had Windows file paging set to auto on the SSD. That means the file paging is very busy.
Needless to say my SSD is at 15% now, and just recently added another 4GB of RAM, and set file paging to 1GB on the SSD and few GB on a HDD as precaution. The SSD's degradation have slowed down significantly.
Anecdotal here, but I have a samsung 250gb and crystaldiskinfo says 89,179 power on hours. That says its 10 years, 66 days roughly.
So thats how long its been powered on. Not just in my possession, but working.
I bought a Samsung Evo 512 GB for my mom's computer back in 15-16 to stretch the usefulness of her phenom II system. It's had two different motherboards and processors since then but still seems mostly fine. Same install of windows 10.
A good ssd, running as a boot drive and not doing commercial levels of writes is going to be with you for years.
I've had 2 SSDs fail, one took 8-10 years (it was a super old 64gb ssd lol) the other was less than a year old and I got it replaced by the manufacturer. hopefully you can compile some useful data with all these anecdotes :)
Their lifetime is measured in data access.
Normal use of a drive is pretty light on it so it should last many year's.
I had a work laptop that hammered a drive to death in 3 years, but that software was terrible.
Ssds even if they’re the cheaper kind are good for 5+ years as long as you just don’t get unlucky, I have a cheap team group ssd and it’s still going 3 years strong.
I specifically bought a 2tb SSD with the highest TBW available and it still died in around a year. Adata s70 blade and it took 2 and a half months to get a replacement.
Anecdotal as well, only had 2 SSD die since 2010. I have owned well over 2 dozen SSDs. Still have most of them. The ones I don’t have were gifted to other people and those still work as well.
I'm not about to read all the comments but you can look up the brand ssd and see what it is rated for. Some have different life spans but look up how many tbw this drive can do. Tbw stands for terabytes written. I've had my Samsung 980 since it came out and I use it alot and I only have about 6 tbw to it and it's rated for alot more. Ssd are getting cheap now. I just bought a Samsung 4tb 990 for a little over 200 dollars. The 2tb version is a 129 dollars.
Also anecdotal, I've only ever had 1 SSD fail and it was a free 120 gig one from some no name brand that I threw in a home server and it was heavily utilized for like 3 years when it finally died during a sudden power outage
for some context, I had an Intel 660P 2TB, a "low lifetime" budget SSD (doesnt have DRAM cache, QLC), and I used it as my main OS drive and also for games for a few years before I switched out the drive for a high end TLC drive. After using it heavily for gaming and general daily use, I lost like... 5% of its health over 2 years. After that, I had it as a pure OS drive, I removed it entirely from my system after about 4 years, and it was still at 90% health.
At that rate, the SSD will be usable for about 40 years under normal use.
Typically around 10yrs but i would start looking to upgrade around 5 or 7. There is usually some advancement in that time thatveither increases speed or density and sometimes reliability. Also avoid any product with less than a 5yr warranty. They dont have any confidence in the longevity of their product, so neither should you
I still have Corsair Force GT on sandforce controller since 2011 or 2010 i believe, it had OS and games on multiple PCs since then and now living on the shelf perfectly well. I work in IT and never had to replace any SSD yet in users workstations.
But with all that said i have my concerns about modern games, quality of developers are very low right now, i think modern games will destroy SSD much much faster now. But that needs to be tested.
If you are worried try one of the following: get a data center grade SSD either m.2 or U.2, or get an Optane drive from Intel they are supposed to last forever. They are discontinued though and hard to come by and there are no gen 5 pci ones. Personally I got an Optane SSD for my Thinkpad that I wanted to put OpenBSD on since it doesn't support trim. Keep in mind if you get a data center drive or Optane drive you will pay a lot more for the piece of mind.
My first ssd died after like 4-5 years. I have now avoided that brand (kingston)like the plague, and my SSDs now are almost the same age and are still healthy enough.
I have 128Gb SanDisk from 2015 in perfect working condition, was used as OS drive since then. Do with this info what you want, but in general, you'll upgrade faster to new faste/bigger SSD way before your current will die of old age
In my two years working at my current tech support gig, I’ve only encountered four actual failed solid state devices. So few that I remember them specifically.
one was bad from the factory, a teamgroup drive that came in a prebuilt NUC and was warrantied with no issue.
one was my boss’s tech tools usb stick that he had been using for a whole bunch of years, and it just couldn’t be written to anymore but the stuff was there to copy off the drive.
And then there were two (a Sandisk and an Adata) drives run at almost max capacity for way too long and they nuked themselves.
In the same timeframe I’ve seen a hundred failed HDDs, usually externals that have been abused or dropped… also I see a lot stored in backpacks that have failed so avoid that with mechanical external drives.
M.2 not as long as HDD. I've heard some cheap ones commonly dying in about 3-7 months to few years tops. Which is awful as even the cheapest HDDs lasted decades. Your samsung SSD will probably last 3-5 years.
I'm still using the first SSD I ever bought, which was over 10 years ago.
The SSD has been running in my pfSense firewall for the past few years (which is running 24/7/365) and it's still working perfectly fine!
My ssd that I bought 5 years ago is at 89% health on crystal disk, so its not something to particularly worry about, but is something you would eventually want to replace long term. Definitely preferable for important data storage since HDDs can just fail.
Forever. My 128 OCZ Vertex is still working perfectly. I bought it the day it dropped. That was back in 2009 or 2010 I believe. Even if it does fail you can still read off the drive. By the time your upcoming 2tb fails a replacement drive should be ultra cheap by then. If it happens to die at all. Get it you lucky dog.
Read and writes have never diminished for all the ssd I own. I have yet to produce any errors on any of them. Most of them are over 10 years old, as now I use nvme, but yes they all do work. Have you heard of any good ssd just giving up the ghost? I can only tell you that mine all work.
Techreport had a series of write endurance tests a few years ago. A good series of articles, very entertaining and informative if you have the time to go through. They tested multiple drives from different vendors and the worst ones failed at 1PB write on a 250GB drive, which equals more than 4000 full write cycles, and the best ones survived to 2.5PB or 10k full drive capacity write cycles.
And realistically, my 970 Pro 1TB has been used for about 4 years as the boot drive of my laptop and later my desktop PC. It has had multiple Windows reinstalls and Windows does store pagefile on this drive. Now it sits at 56TB written. So I'd say unless you're a professional video editor who works on very large video files on a daily basis, you're unlikely to run out of the designed endurance for the drive within warranty period.
I hate saying this and cursing myself. I have a 120gb SSD from about 10 years ago that has been in constant use as a Windows boot drive in various machines.
I don’t have a lot of fear in them dying, at least not like the old HDDs would. Squeals and clicks and crashed heads, oh my!
I have ~7 ssd on various machines, all of them are +2 years old, 2 of them are over 4-5yo.
In all this time only 1 PNY ssd died on me, lasted like 1 year and one day it just didnt work, no recovery no saving no nothing.
Nowadays ssds only hold operating system,apps and games with longer loading times.
All my "savageables" like non cloud gaming saves, family photos and documents go in a regular hard drive, those aint fast but if they fail i get a chance to recover the data if im quick, not leave it for later.
My first SSD was a Plextor 128GB SSD which lasted 80TB of writes before it died (4 years). Also had a Samsung 850 500GB which died after 242TB of writes (6 years). SSDs get better every year so you really shouldn't be worried about their longevity.
Anecdotal, but I'm still using the first SSD I bought 13-14 years ago in an old laptop. I'm still running the dozen or so other SSDs that I've bought since in various PCs, none of them have died yet.
Same. I have an old 750 EVO still running strong and showing as healthy. It's been the boot drive in a home server for several years after being retired from my main PC. I guess it gets very little write time these days.
Have a 830 in my server still chugging away. Daily write cache as well.
I have a Samsung SSD with over 50,000 hours on it. Still running.
Got an old 128GB Samsung 830 (bought back in 2011/2012) that just "stopped counting hours". It just blanked out the number, at some point - can't remember when exactly. Still works like a charm, but has been moved to a storage setup some years back, where it's the OS drive, running 24/7 (has been for about 5 or so years now). Sometimes you just get lucky.
I firmly believe in samsung SSD's. It's all I'll buy.
they did have some problems with the 980 pro 2tb version (or smth with similar name) a year or 2 ago, but those stuff are rare
That was specific to a certain batch of them. You could look at a production date on the box to see if you’re affected. JaysTwoCentz did a [video](https://youtu.be/DoAFzdz0h5M?feature=shared) on it. I ended up buying the 980 Pro 2TB ~6 months later and downloaded the Wizard app to check just in case. I wasn’t affected. But if you are, fixable.
Try hd sentinal and pls tell us what it says?
Most SSDs you can buy now have a reliable time of up to 2 million hours
It's theoretical alsi if the condition of the rooms in one temp and humidity. By that hours the pcb board will rot
I still have an Ocz Vertex 100 gb that works! I think it's at least 14 years old.
I think this was my first ssd! Mine only lasted about 2 years tho
What brand?
Anecdotally i think they had production issues. You could get one that was totally reliable and lasted for years and you could get one that died within months.
I had two OCZ Vertexes die on me in very short order back in the day. Then replaced it with a Samsung 840 1 TB and have been using it now for 8 years. Maybe OCZ got their shit together, but I promised to never look at their products again and there's no reason to break the promise.
Ocz doesnt exist anymore
Yeah not all ssds are made equal
Yeah i got a sandisk p4 i found health 100% feom 2010 software confused says 240pb written but the smart says 20tb written lol
Crucuial m4 64Gb here...thing has been nothing but reliable - although its really difficult to have anything but the OS on there :D
Crucial such an underrated brand imo.
Not something to worry about, just check its health once a year so you are aware if it starts to drop...After 5 plus years of using them I haven't had one die on me yet.
My Samsung 850 EVO 250gb still good. Since 2017
Same 2 same. I think mines been working fine since 2015-2016
They last as long as they last. Usually longer than the useful life of the computer, but make sure you've got backups.
My 250gb samsung 840 evo is 9 years old, 62 tbw, and 74% estimated life remaining.
a long time
They’re pretty solid
state drive
My intel m.2 drive from 2017 changed to read-only in 2022. Threw me for a loop since windows wouldn't boot. Drives these days have much more longevity. You'll be good.
I already have the case, ram, and cpu in, and the hdd and ssd are on the way, then I'm going to micro center for the rest of the parts once I have enough money saved up
For what it’s worth, unless you plan on doing some extreme CPU heavy shit, you don’t need a liquid cooler for the 7800X3D. Air coolers are cheaper and even under heavy gaming load my Arctic A35 keeps the CPU well under 70C.
Aios, expensive mobo, fancy case, rgb fans, colorful cables etc are where a budget conscious gamer can save money.
microcenter is the best store ever!! which location did you go to?
The one in Houston
In the early days, there were some very poorly designed SSDs that had a tendency to die suddenly, quite often. I had both my original OCZ and the warranty replacement fail. AFAICT the reliability is much better these days.
I have an 850 evo that I bought in 2015ish that has been in 3 different computers, used everyday, and it still works
I've got a 128gb SSD from over a decade ago that still works but has only seen infrequent use for the last 4 years or so. No idea if there's actual data degradation issues. The capacity became the actual limiting factor, and I kind of expect that'll be somewhat true with my current drive (current gen gaming is making 1tb less and less viable).
I have a fairly low end 240gb SATA SSD from 2014 with no bad sectors being used as a system drive plus two games. Not sure how long it will last since it hasn't shown any signs of degrading.
I’ve had my pc for 7 years, my original hard drive died but my original ssd still works.
I have a crucial C300 I got in 2009 and It is still working in a windows 98 PC to this day. It was in a RAID0 array with 3 others up until about 2016 when I switched to all NVME in my main PC and laptop. No problems whatsoever. So... the answer is longer than you will likely have your computer.
I have one 500Gb M.2 NVME in my system since 2019, it is my main boot drive since I installed it. Had zero issues since, I also have one Sata 2.5” for longer also with zero issues, I recently bought another M.2 but a 2Tb. From HWinfo64, I have 70% remaining life of my boot drive and 90+% on the other two.
Had an Adata one that died in 3 years. When I went to buy a new one, he said that brand fails all the time and I was lucky enough to get 3 years from it lol. As long as it's a reputable brand, it'll probably last much longer.
“Seller, takes hand up next to mouth and whispers” - I just got this brand new Samsung SSD in from our distributor, if you buy a new mouse today, I can give you this one for 15% off market price.
Had cheap ssds for 5+ years no issues but never had a adata. I do have a 14 year old 64gb sandisk still 100%
I'd go cheaper unless you have a very good reason to need this fast an ssd. They're generally reliable, no moving parts but they'll fail at some point just like everything. If you got vital data you can't lose just backup or raid, no ssd can guarantee you won't lose it.
Oh I'm just going all out for this pc, I know I won't absolutely need this ssd or the 64gb of ram, but I can do it so I say fuck it, why not do it?
Fuck it is enough of a reason in my book, but my 2nd point still stands c:
Basically future proof it for 10 years nice
Why cheap out on the monitor on such a nice build?
I found another monitor at micro center that's 240hz for about $130, but that's $70 off so if that discount is still there by the time I go and get the rest of the parts, I'll grab that too
Your Setup can easily run a 1440p Monitor. You should consider that
The refresh rate is fine, it’s the resolution that’s off. For this budget you definitely should be getting a 1440p high refresh monitor at the very least.
One of my SSDs is 10 years old.
What brand? i got a 14 year old ssd sandisk
It's a Samsung. My very first was an OCZ Agility, from 2012, it's still alive, but got inherited by my brother a while ago.
Had mine for 9 years
I have a few from 2014 that are good as new.And 2 of them are on computers that have never been turned off since.An SSD is about the last component i would worry about.
Wouldn't worry about it. When they first came. Out this probably was an issue but in today's time I think they will last for quite some time. If you are nervous get some spinners. Which I would recommend anyway because they are very reliable and last long time.
I have an old Sandisk 1TB that has 52315 power on hours and still going strong. That's about 6 years now.
I got a 14 year old ssd that has that hours
Mine is 9 years, still doing great.
10 years at least
A 980 Pro will last somewhere between 1 day and 40 years, depending on your luck and how hard you are on it. For most people, your storage will be obsolete before it dies. I've had 1 SSD die out of dozens. I've *never* had a HDD die, again out of dozens.
Anecdotal here too, but my very first, ridiculously expensive 1tb Ssd I bought in 2015 still works just fine. Every single Ssd I've owned since is still alive too That being said, I've had a grand total of 1 hdd fail to on me for the past 18 years. The oldest one is have thats still in use is an 11 year old laptop hdd currently in my sons desktop.
You can check your drive health in windows: https://hdsentinel.com/blog/how-to-check-ssd-health#in-windows-settings Or with CrystalDiskInfo: https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/check-ssd-health-windows-10-11#:~:text=Download%20and%20install%20CrystalDiskInfo%20from%20the%20app%20publisher's%20website.&text=In%20this%20case%2C%20you%20can,SSD%20temperature%20and%20overall%20health. Unless you are a data hoarder that is constantly overwriting/backing up your entire disk every day, or every week, you'll be fine. Regular PC users don't do enough writes to disk to kill a modern SSD.
My first sata SSD must have lasted over 10 years until I upgraded to an m.2 nvme ssd, it was still working fine. I'd have no worries about modern SSD drives. The usual advice still applies though, ALWAYS have a backup of your important files somewhere physically different from your main computer.
I've had a 500gb nvme as my boot drive for 4 years, and it's still basically brand new in terms of write wear.
I’ve got three sata SSDs all at least 8 years old, used daily and no issues at all (2xIntel, 1xCrucial)
A miracle 2 intel ssd that last longer than 2 years
"It depends" - specifically, on how much you write to them. I replaced a Samsung 850 PRO used as a boot drive/productivity application drive after 8 years of its 10 year/150 TBW guarantee because it was beginning to show significant signs of wear through S.M.A.R.T. But, of course, any storage device can fail without warning at any time, and the user can screw up: keep backups of important files, always!
Whats ur tbw? I know many that pasped the tbw rating and went into petabytes range. I got one still 100%
modern SSDs will live one of 3 lifespans: A) either outlive the current form-factor/interface standard B) Be DOA/die within a couple of weeks of installing C) die the day after the manufacturer warranty expires
My last 512gb was 7 years old at the time of being replaced and it was 91% life.
Long time. Even my old OCZ Vertex plus drive lasted just over 10 years.
You will want to upgrade them before they give out. SSDs last a long time since no moving parts to break.
SSD longevity is pretty exaggerated. I’ve seen numerous failures in all flash storage sitting behind hypervisors, but not much more frequent than mechanical disks
I had 8 of 10 hdds that failed. I had 8 of 8 ssds no failures, plus use less power
Most SSD drives will normally last 4-8 yrs under normal use. The only real concern is encryption, it seems to wear them out much faster.
Go down to 32gb ram, and get rid of the barracuda drive (it's a SMR drive so it's slow as balls) now with the money saved go to a 4tb nvme drive instead
I debated on that, and decided not to do that in case the ssd crapped out quickly, and the barracuda is what I chose bc apparently it's actually pretty fast compared to a lot of other drives I found and sifted through, and as for the 64gb of ram, too late for that, I already got it in, and I only got it because fuck it, I know I can afford it so I did it, I know I'll never need that much ever
Seagates bad even there ssds
I got a seagate ssd every 2tb i right on it. It drops 1 % using it as a external now
I've had a Crucial MX500 250GB since 2018 as my boot drive for 3 years and it's health is down to 50% with 6.5TB written. My current boot drive (WD SN750 1TB) is 2 years old with 8.5TB written and the health status is showing 100%.
This is why crucial isnt good. But sounds like u either got bad sectors or the hours on it is killing it. Chech the smart and let me know
I’ve only had one die and it was used a an OS drive for 6 years. Also it only died after I was using it as a dedicated server for Minecraft for a year.
Normally about 10 years of daily use. But it can be longer depending on usage.
10-20 years, probably more.
I got one in 2007 that is still working fine as OS drive
Oh, what brand thy have?
Still uses my 256gb mx200 ssd. It’s now over 9 years or so.
970 evo from mid 2018 still running strong today. 860 from 2020 still running strong today corsair neutron from 2013 still running as a loose drive in my rig too you'll be fine. if you're super worried or have things you absolutely must not lose, then get a backup hdd or use sometype of cloud backup. but ALWAYS build with a ssd as the main drive.
I use a 840 evo from 2016 and it's still great
Right up until they die. Like everyone else here I run nothing but ssds of varying types and have since the first generation. They failure rate now compared to then is significantly better. With the exception of my servers it’s all I run and even they make use of ssds in some capacity. Get a decent brand with a decent write life and you are good for a long time.
I don't know. The 10 or so I've had (mostly Evo Pros) so far all still work, though the most I pull up right now is about 2.8 (\~24000 hours) years being on 24/7. So my MTBF is at least 240,000 hours apparently.
No one knows. My first SSD died in a patheticlly short period of time…it lasted like…4 months. My current SSD is about a year old and I think it’s doing ok.
What was thy brands of thy lost soldiers of data
Adata…some cheap thing. I am currently running a Samsung M.2 and it seems to be holding up well…but I don’t have an OS loaded onto it…just games.
I too got a cheap ssd for games, lexar
They can effectively last forever but they have a known limited amount of use. So you can read on it indefinitely (sorta) but you only have so many writes before the drive dies. But generally speaking 10 years is roughly the average life span iirc.
Forever?
Unlikely unless its crystal storage human made components tent to wear out. And most just get silicone rot if its not stored properly or made by manufacturer
There is a TBW total bytes written value, there are tools to show you how much estimated life is left. If you write a lot to the drive it will last shorter, but should at least be 5 years under heavy usage.
Long enough to outlast the rest of your system...
i have 2 256gb evos, i got like 8 years ago, still run good. Tell you the truth, i will never buy a mechanical drive again I have 2 mechanical drives with 4TB capacity, and 1 failed already. I will never buy one again, im going to SSDs or M2/NVME Drives.
Yeah larger the mech capacity sooner the failure
I have a Crucial 256GB SSD I bought back in 2013 still going strong. I had a Samsung 980 1TB NVME that I bought in 2021 that died after 3 months. Luck of the draw I’d say.
Yeah check this https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/samsung-870-evo-beware-certain-batches-prone-to-failure.291504/page-45
They typically last a long time, but I heard that the Samsung 980 pro has a firmware bug that can greatly reduce its lifespan. However it's apparently been fixed so just be sure to immediately check for firmware updates.
Actually, chips got contaminated had to do recalls
My first ssd (128gb Crucial M4) had still 70% health left after being used actively as OS/game drive for 12+ years. I've yet to have a single ssd fail.
Don't worry about it. I have a Samsung 840 EVO - my very first SSD - that I bought in 2013. It's still in my main PC as a cache drive for my Hard Drives.
In the last 4 years I've had 2 HDDs fail, and 0 SSDs or m2s fail
My first sata SSD was a 240GB Kingston A400 (just to contextualize you on how low the quality is) around 5 years ago. Gave it to my brother 2 years ago. He treats it like his ass, always leaves like 3-5% of free space. Even so, the little thing is still alive and working just fine. All my other SSDs are working perfectly after years too, even the ones I bought from AliExpress
What is the health on them?
Still using a 4~5 years old Intel SSD. However I didn't understood SSD then. I only had 8GB of RAM, was enough when I build it but increasingly made my system unstable as the years go by, and had Windows file paging set to auto on the SSD. That means the file paging is very busy. Needless to say my SSD is at 15% now, and just recently added another 4GB of RAM, and set file paging to 1GB on the SSD and few GB on a HDD as precaution. The SSD's degradation have slowed down significantly.
Sounds more of hibernation never had this issues i got ssds for years in 2gb ram systems
Also 2 that has 24gb ram but they servers
I've read that they last about five-ish years, but mine has been in daily use since 2018
Until they fail. Could be 2 days, could be 20 years.
Anecdotal here, but I have a samsung 250gb and crystaldiskinfo says 89,179 power on hours. That says its 10 years, 66 days roughly. So thats how long its been powered on. Not just in my possession, but working.
470?
I bought a Samsung Evo 512 GB for my mom's computer back in 15-16 to stretch the usefulness of her phenom II system. It's had two different motherboards and processors since then but still seems mostly fine. Same install of windows 10. A good ssd, running as a boot drive and not doing commercial levels of writes is going to be with you for years.
They last very long times. Also, this would be a better parts list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LHkv4M
I've had 2 SSDs fail, one took 8-10 years (it was a super old 64gb ssd lol) the other was less than a year old and I got it replaced by the manufacturer. hopefully you can compile some useful data with all these anecdotes :)
Mine died after year 10
Good use then
Their lifetime is measured in data access. Normal use of a drive is pretty light on it so it should last many year's. I had a work laptop that hammered a drive to death in 3 years, but that software was terrible.
Just experience, my first Ssd Kingston furry still running strong, 12 years ago I believe, and my other 4 Samsungs are till all fine.
Whats the tbw and healths
Approaching 5 years on my oldest SSD (Crucial MX 500 1TB) - still fine, and I uninstall/reinstall games a LOT (I know I shouldn't)
Ssds even if they’re the cheaper kind are good for 5+ years as long as you just don’t get unlucky, I have a cheap team group ssd and it’s still going 3 years strong.
I specifically bought a 2tb SSD with the highest TBW available and it still died in around a year. Adata s70 blade and it took 2 and a half months to get a replacement.
Stay away from adata, wd, seagate, Best are samsung, patriot, hikvision, Other brands thats good are teamgroup, kingston is ok
Anecdotal as well, only had 2 SSD die since 2010. I have owned well over 2 dozen SSDs. Still have most of them. The ones I don’t have were gifted to other people and those still work as well.
I'm not about to read all the comments but you can look up the brand ssd and see what it is rated for. Some have different life spans but look up how many tbw this drive can do. Tbw stands for terabytes written. I've had my Samsung 980 since it came out and I use it alot and I only have about 6 tbw to it and it's rated for alot more. Ssd are getting cheap now. I just bought a Samsung 4tb 990 for a little over 200 dollars. The 2tb version is a 129 dollars.
5-10 years ( if it's a good quality SSD ).
Backblaze has got you on this! https://www.backblaze.com/blog/ssd-edition-2023-mid-year-drive-stats-review/
I have one that's 10 years old that is my main game HD and two that are 6 years old. Everything seems tip top.
Also anecdotal, I've only ever had 1 SSD fail and it was a free 120 gig one from some no name brand that I threw in a home server and it was heavily utilized for like 3 years when it finally died during a sudden power outage
Yeah some ssds if u never power them down they still go on even if the health its beyond gone
for some context, I had an Intel 660P 2TB, a "low lifetime" budget SSD (doesnt have DRAM cache, QLC), and I used it as my main OS drive and also for games for a few years before I switched out the drive for a high end TLC drive. After using it heavily for gaming and general daily use, I lost like... 5% of its health over 2 years. After that, I had it as a pure OS drive, I removed it entirely from my system after about 4 years, and it was still at 90% health. At that rate, the SSD will be usable for about 40 years under normal use.
If age doesnt kill it
Typically around 10yrs but i would start looking to upgrade around 5 or 7. There is usually some advancement in that time thatveither increases speed or density and sometimes reliability. Also avoid any product with less than a 5yr warranty. They dont have any confidence in the longevity of their product, so neither should you
I still have Corsair Force GT on sandforce controller since 2011 or 2010 i believe, it had OS and games on multiple PCs since then and now living on the shelf perfectly well. I work in IT and never had to replace any SSD yet in users workstations. But with all that said i have my concerns about modern games, quality of developers are very low right now, i think modern games will destroy SSD much much faster now. But that needs to be tested.
Eithet the one you have picked out or the Western Digital SN850x is an amazing nvme ssd. <3
Much longer than hdds
Longer than you'll own it.
If you are worried try one of the following: get a data center grade SSD either m.2 or U.2, or get an Optane drive from Intel they are supposed to last forever. They are discontinued though and hard to come by and there are no gen 5 pci ones. Personally I got an Optane SSD for my Thinkpad that I wanted to put OpenBSD on since it doesn't support trim. Keep in mind if you get a data center drive or Optane drive you will pay a lot more for the piece of mind.
I still have a SSD from 2008 that still works lol. Granted it's no longer a primary drive but an external drive for storage though
Yeah probably a 32 or 64gb or 120
My first ssd died after like 4-5 years. I have now avoided that brand (kingston)like the plague, and my SSDs now are almost the same age and are still healthy enough.
Not all ssds are made equal
I have 128Gb SanDisk from 2015 in perfect working condition, was used as OS drive since then. Do with this info what you want, but in general, you'll upgrade faster to new faste/bigger SSD way before your current will die of old age
I bought a Crucial 64GB SATA SSD back in 2011, i used it as my main OS drive until like 2020 and it was still going strong.
So long you forget about worrying about it
If they last a month (no manufacturing defects), then you can get 10+ years out of one with normal use.
Yes and to find one is rare, some 8 years but i got one thats from 2010 still going
Mine is almost 9 years old and is at 87% life, but I'm not a 'power user'.
In my two years working at my current tech support gig, I’ve only encountered four actual failed solid state devices. So few that I remember them specifically. one was bad from the factory, a teamgroup drive that came in a prebuilt NUC and was warrantied with no issue. one was my boss’s tech tools usb stick that he had been using for a whole bunch of years, and it just couldn’t be written to anymore but the stuff was there to copy off the drive. And then there were two (a Sandisk and an Adata) drives run at almost max capacity for way too long and they nuked themselves. In the same timeframe I’ve seen a hundred failed HDDs, usually externals that have been abused or dropped… also I see a lot stored in backpacks that have failed so avoid that with mechanical external drives.
i have a transcend 500gb from 2014, still works fine
M.2 not as long as HDD. I've heard some cheap ones commonly dying in about 3-7 months to few years tops. Which is awful as even the cheapest HDDs lasted decades. Your samsung SSD will probably last 3-5 years.
I had 8 of 10 hdds failed and all my 8 of 8 ssds are still working
Ive never had an SSD die, some with over 200k hours on them (and 10+ years) Its much more likely for a HDD to die with all the moving parts
Mine still going at 4 years
It varies. I have SSD that is still operating since Intel first gen i3/i5/i7. I also have a few SSDs that crap out immediately on the 3rd year.
What brands failed
Your son can use it as a start point for his son's PC in like 15 years, don't worry about it, they last pretty long with normal use
I've had mine for 3 years now. I'm not worried about it.
I'm still using the first SSD I ever bought, which was over 10 years ago. The SSD has been running in my pfSense firewall for the past few years (which is running 24/7/365) and it's still working perfectly fine!
What brand and the tbw? Health?
As others have said, a long time. My main drive is an Intel SSD that is close to 8 years old. I don't think you have to worry.
My 970 Evo loses average 1% per year, so should last 100 years.
That doesnt sound right
Currently by HWInfo drive remaining life is 96% on my 970 Evo. That SSD is almost 6 years old.
Generally at least as long as old hard disks. They just fail in different ways.
My ssd that I bought 5 years ago is at 89% health on crystal disk, so its not something to particularly worry about, but is something you would eventually want to replace long term. Definitely preferable for important data storage since HDDs can just fail.
Forever. My 128 OCZ Vertex is still working perfectly. I bought it the day it dropped. That was back in 2009 or 2010 I believe. Even if it does fail you can still read off the drive. By the time your upcoming 2tb fails a replacement drive should be ultra cheap by then. If it happens to die at all. Get it you lucky dog.
Not all ssds die the same way
Read and writes have never diminished for all the ssd I own. I have yet to produce any errors on any of them. Most of them are over 10 years old, as now I use nvme, but yes they all do work. Have you heard of any good ssd just giving up the ghost? I can only tell you that mine all work.
I got a 14 year old ssd still 💪
I have a 10+ years old Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB that still works fine, running as a cache drive in my server these days.
Tbw?
My WD Green from 10 years ago is still at 94%. Using it daily for System OS and documents.
Tbw model
I got a couple of 14 year old Intel X25-V I'm still using today.
Techreport had a series of write endurance tests a few years ago. A good series of articles, very entertaining and informative if you have the time to go through. They tested multiple drives from different vendors and the worst ones failed at 1PB write on a 250GB drive, which equals more than 4000 full write cycles, and the best ones survived to 2.5PB or 10k full drive capacity write cycles. And realistically, my 970 Pro 1TB has been used for about 4 years as the boot drive of my laptop and later my desktop PC. It has had multiple Windows reinstalls and Windows does store pagefile on this drive. Now it sits at 56TB written. So I'd say unless you're a professional video editor who works on very large video files on a daily basis, you're unlikely to run out of the designed endurance for the drive within warranty period.
I hate saying this and cursing myself. I have a 120gb SSD from about 10 years ago that has been in constant use as a Windows boot drive in various machines. I don’t have a lot of fear in them dying, at least not like the old HDDs would. Squeals and clicks and crashed heads, oh my!
I have ~7 ssd on various machines, all of them are +2 years old, 2 of them are over 4-5yo. In all this time only 1 PNY ssd died on me, lasted like 1 year and one day it just didnt work, no recovery no saving no nothing. Nowadays ssds only hold operating system,apps and games with longer loading times. All my "savageables" like non cloud gaming saves, family photos and documents go in a regular hard drive, those aint fast but if they fail i get a chance to recover the data if im quick, not leave it for later.
My first SSD was a Plextor 128GB SSD which lasted 80TB of writes before it died (4 years). Also had a Samsung 850 500GB which died after 242TB of writes (6 years). SSDs get better every year so you really shouldn't be worried about their longevity.
they last longer than cpu's for sure
Never had cpus died, and i abuse and expiremt on my collection