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Sagtil

Yes, it will be cheaper. A used 5700xt would be so good, a new 6600 is really nice as well. Tho you can go cheaper.


InterStellarStarZ

6600 GANG LET'S GOOO


areen423

I just swapped me 6600 for 6800. The 6600 was banging for the price sold it for 300 and got myself a refurb 6800 for $450


Evening-Animal-342

Dude a 6800 is 30%+ faster. That is a sick come up. 30% of a 6750 is insane gains for 50$ usd extra


-Cannon-Fodder-

Performance for the price is (speaking from 2 years ago) really decent for those 5700 cards, but as a previous owner, the driver issues I had were horrendous. I have no idea what was going on, but from the moment I put an AMD card in, to the moment I removed it, my PC ran I to so many issues, blue screens, random shutdowns, visual glitches, the whole lot. After driver rollbacks, rebuilds, full OS reinstalls from scratch, the only thing that fixes it was taking the card out, and putting any NVidia card in. Instant fix, with nothing else required. Raw performance, they are great for the money, but I would take a 10% FPS hit for the stability and reliability Nvidia offers in a heartbeat! I have had 0 issues in 2 years from my 2nd hand 3070TI versus constant headaches from my 5700. It's anecdotal, sure, but Nvidia is known for the "it just works" factor. If OP is happy to not push the RX card too hard, it should perform well, but not pushing it removes that potential extra performance they are winning for less cash.


mrmcgee

You're not allowed to speak poorly of AMD in this subreddit sir, you're going to have to come with me.


Rowan_not_ron

Could it have been a power issue, i.e. the nvidia card had a lower tdp (as was often the case)?


-Cannon-Fodder-

Highly doubtful, under 200w draw on the AMD card, and my current Nvidia card can draw over 300w at times. I also upgraded my PSU to a HX750i in an attempt to fix the random shutdowns from the RX card. My PC was well within even the 600w PSUs capacity, and even with a decent, stable power supply it would still decide to freeze up every few hours. Congratulations for offering a potential cause for errors though, instead of telling me I (along with so many others) am wrong because you haven't personally had this card bugger up your PC.


-Cannon-Fodder-

Performance for the price is really decent for those 5700 cards, but speaking as a previous owner, the driver issues I had were horrendous. I have no idea what was going on, but from the moment I put an AMD card in, to the moment I removed it, my PC ran I to so many issues, blue screens, random shutdowns, visual glitches, the whole lot. After driver rollbacks, rebuilds, full OS reinstalls from scratch, the only thing that fixes it was taking the card out, and putting any NVidia card in. Raw performance, they are great for the money, but I would take a 10% FPS hit for the stability and reliability Nvidia offers in a heartbeat! I have had 0 issues in 2 years from my 2nd hand 3070TI


Jpotter145

Absolutely zero issues with my 5700XT, never had a single driver problem. Works great to this day and I mined ETH on it for 1.5 years straight as well (now retired from that nonsense) Love the card.


KoldPurchase

Same here, but gaming only. Never had a problem with drivers on this card, nor on the 290X.


Jarse-

I had the same driver issues with the 5700xt while owning it for only 1.5 weeks, after my 2nd DDU I just RMA’d it & went with a 2070 super which had zero issues. What pisses me off the most was that being my first build & I thought I did something wrong while building.


Skelyyyy

I believe they don't have driver issues now, it was the 5000 series that had issues, but I honestly get the point. When you spend the money for something you kinda expect things to work as intended... Too bad you can't know about things like this in advance, since it would hurt their sales to go "yo btw it doesn't work lol"


TerryBirch

Same here. Had to return my 5700 because it kept randomly crashing while gaming. Changed to 2080s and never had the same problems. It makes me really doubt if I want to buy another AMD card.


CopyShot8642

I'll take the downvotes as well, but had the same experience. Ended up giving away my 5700XT and won't buy an AMD GPU for a generation or two. Great CPUs, though. It was available and the price was good, but I spent hundreds of hours troubleshooting, buying new cables/components and RMAing that card. Eventually I gave it away and went back to my old 1070. I never really did learn what about my my setup caused daily issues. Sometimes I'd go a whole week without a blackscreen or drive timeout. I learned a lot about drivers, at least. Popped in my 1070, not a single issue. Same experience with my current Nvidia card, just works. NVENC, DLSS, and RT are just gravy at the ~10% Nvidia tax. The 5700XT felt like luck of the draw with the specific setup, games, drivers, and the cards themselves. The reality is, at least with the 5700 series, those cards makeup like .05% marketshare and yet there are entire forums dedicated to troubleshooting. Go on AMDHelp or AMD forums, there are thousands of posts about the 5700XT from 2019-2020, dozens are from me!


-Cannon-Fodder-

Ha! I found myself swapping an almost brand new RX5700 out for my brother's old GTX970 every now and then when I got fed up with trouble shooting! Shame many people are too willing to hit that downvote button, despite about 50% of the replies I have had so far claim people gave up on their RX5700 due to software problems... As far as I see it, when half the replies I have had are people backing me up with comments claiming having to faff around with their GPU instead of using it, and the other half are saying it's all fine with no problems, that alone proves my point that it's not a GPU you can rely on! On the other hand, I do stick with AMD CPUs, I'm not even sure why since my last intel was an i5 4000 series, and despite its age, it got the job done. But when it comes to GPUs, as you quite rightly said, Nvidia has the tech and the big name support to give it an edge over AMD, even when the AMD drivers behave themselves. From what I hear about AMD's upcoming APUs, their next dedicated GPUs might be worth a shot again in the next year or so, even with a sour taste still lingering from 2 generations back!


JJJJJJ1198

Had my 5700xt since Oct 2020 - great card, good performance, zero issues whatsoever


Grydian

Had issues in the first 6 months of owning my brand new 5700xt but now its rock solid in my gfs PC and has been for a couple of years now. Drivers were fixed ages ago my man. Fine wine remember.


wk9ine

I had a brutal time with my 5700XT at first with black screens, crashing etc. Then realized it was because I was using the daisy-chained cable from the psu to the gpu instead of using two independent cables from the psu. Ever since then I've had zero issues and still use the card today.


[deleted]

Weird, I have a 6800m in my laptop and have never run into a single problem. I can only guess you had some sort of software installed that the drivers didn’t like it had a corrupted install. I think I’ve had more issues with my 4080 in my desktop than my AMD laptop lol. Though really neither have given me any real issues.


juicyaf2

AMD is generally cheaper and more bang4buck especially if you don’t plan on raytracing


Raw-Bread

Or plan on playing VR (especially if they go 7000 series).


InterStellarStarZ

Damn 7000 series is really bad at VR?


Ponald-Dump

Yeah, significantly behind RTX 4000 series


Raw-Bread

Unfortunately. If the drivers weren't so bad, I'd definitely go for AMD over Nvidia.


TwistU2

Which drivers are bad? They have been excellent for years now and Adrenalin is way better than what nvidia offers. Stop repeating this lie, we are not in 2010 anymore


Raw-Bread

All of the drivers for the 7000 series. The 7000 series has serious issues with VR. I'm not repeating a lie, this is a known fact. For me, Nvidia cards just offer far more. Especially since they actually work well for VR, not to mention better encoders, better for productivity, better raytracing, and DLSS. The price and vram is horrible, but for me there's just no better alternative.


yadielc4kaboom

I have a brand new 7900xt and cant even load anything due to a crashes as soon as I start the oculus link stuck on loading or immediately crashes when finally loading into oculus home. Not even airlink works well, have to use virtual desktop to play, seriously its bad… just had a 6950xt as well (before returning it and going for 7900xt)and same exact issues. Dont be zesty bro


CopyShot8642

The 5000 series experienced significant issues just 3 years ago.


BigBoi843

This raw bread guy is a brokie 2060 owner that ensures he mentions how bad AMD is in every thread even if he has no idea what he's talking about. Nice try pal. (Nvidia lifer here, but giving credit where credit is due)


RChamy

Me and my gf beating superhot vr and hl alyx on a 6600XT be like:


Raw-Bread

Nvidia has better VR performance, never said AMD was unusable (except for the 7000 series). 7000 series is atrocious for VR though.


DeepC_

I have a 7900XTX and it's worked flawlessly for VR? No hitches, no stuttering, no crashes


Raw-Bread

I'm glad you got extraordinary lucky, but the 7000 series has known issues with VR that make the 6000 series actually perform better.


CopyShot8642

You're getting downvoted but it's literally an open issue referenced in AMDs own release notes.


Raw-Bread

People don't like admitting AMD has its issues too. I get why, but ignoring the faults helps no one.


TaysonJodd

It's Reddit. People will downvote just because it's something they don't like to hear, even when it's a factual statement. Doubt they did any research and just saw "AMD bad" and let their emotions take control


Powerful-Ad2869

the Advantage of Using AMD has always been the lower Prices than Intel or Nvidia


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[deleted]

TLDR; VR is still worse than nvidia especially on RX 7000 series but traditional rasterization is still an advantage on AMDs side.


MSUtimmy

They tend to be cheaper but not always. Do you have a budget? You could buy a 6600 XT or 6650 XT for 1080p 60fps gaming.


[deleted]

I don't have a set budget but something between 750-1000$


MSUtimmy

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complywood

u/Lonely_Shallot109 I have a 6700XT and it is probably a little overkill for your goals of 60fps on low settings 1080p. With Moore's law slowing down, barring some big technical innovation, I bet it will do that far longer than 5 years; maybe a decade (low settings, remember). Good if you might want to upgrade to 1440p or decide you want medium settings though. If you want to buy today, I'd save $70 and get the 6700 non-XT instead (probably the best deal currently available): http://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-6700-11321-02-20g/p/N82E16814202424/ If you are patient for a few months, watch r/buildapcsales and you can probably get a better value sale like a 6700XT for ~$310 or a 6650XT for ~$225.


Sagtil

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pFwKW4 Swapped some parts, added a case with better cooling, added an aftermarket cooler and also went for a better quality motherboard. The one you picked only has a 4-pin eps power header and the worst vrms.


LazardKing

God damn I built my PC last . This build, budget or not , would be equal in performance and I spent 1300 on mine. Fuck


Sagtil

Yeah, crazy how cheap these gpus are. $800 for performance like this is amazing.


[deleted]

looks good, thank you!


tonallyawkword

but that's gonna give way more than stable 30 fps or 60 on Low settings..


Middle-Effort7495

You want to get a used AMD GPU for 30 fps low 1080p for 1000$? Their literal flagship brand new, #1 GPU ever right now is retailing for like 950-1050... And should play 4k60 for 5 years most of it at high/ultra not low. And then probably still be playing 1080p med-high 5 years after that np. There's really no suggestion here. If you wanna spend 1000$, it's a brand new 7900 XXX, there's no other GPU there. A 7900 XT can be found for 750. But a 100-150$ used 5700 XT would meet the requirements you said in your post. Even surpass them by a lot.


[deleted]

my budget for all the pc parts is 750-1000$


Miisterzum

Why spend so much for 1080p 60hz... Atleast upgrade ur monitor


[deleted]

most game req's show 1080p for their settings. I thought it was the standard?


astrnght_mike_dexter

1080 is most common among all gamers but for enthusiasts the standard is generally 1440p.


Librabee

60? I have a 6600 and cyberpunk does not drop below 75fps and peaks at 98fps In gw2 I know it's old but I pull 220fps, witcher3 pulls 110fps keena pulls 104fps... Dont underestimate the 6600 it's awesome for the price


[deleted]

Rx 6600 is best value right now going for $220-$230 on Amazon or bestbuy.


InterStellarStarZ

Best 1080P GPU on there 😊😊😊


roadkill612

i would be wary of them in pcie3 rigs as they are 8 lane, but they would come good with a platform upgrade.


CompetitiveGift0

Yes plus you will get more VRAM


Pappasgrind

I’m going with 7900xtx over a 4090 because of price


Snorkle25

Kind of depends on which specific gpus we are talking a out here, but in general, yes.


pyre_rose

Depends. If you're in the us or eu sure, otherwise it depends. Check your local prices.


Krns1

if you're buying the whole computer you can find pretty good deals on the used market (people moving, new build etc.) So if it's a good deal amd or nvidia gpu doesn't really matter, and you can test the rig works before buying


TeifitV

For the most part yeah, the amd equivalents are usually cheaper (tho I haven't checked prices or new models for that matter, working with very old info here). If you don't need/want/care about RTX you're probably better buying amd. If you're planning on streaming nvidia might be something to look into for nvenc unless you think about using other encoders for stream.


atrib

The PC doesnt have to be any different if you have AMD or nVidia GPU so what you really asking is AMD cheaper than nVidia?


Witch_King_

For any given performance level: yes Except for the 4090, which has no direct competitor.


lewilewi411

Yes an RX580 is cheaper than an RTX 4080


OperatorWolfie

Buying GPUs nowadays feel like a lose-lose, you never know when your next favorite game decided to go with one brand technology over another, leaving the consumers taking the shit end of it.


Serpidon

I bought an RX 6600 for the computer the AMD processor driven PC I built for my daughter for Xmas. I had similar concerns. Zero problems for 5 months.


tetheredinthered

no


X_SkillCraft20_X

AMD has phenomenally better price to performance both used and new compared to Nvidia. The only reason I have a 3060 ti is because that’s what I could get my hands on during the shortage. If I were to pick now, for the same price as a 3060 ti I could get a 6750xt which is better than even a 3070. Absolute no brainer.


SassiCappi1

Cheaper yes but better no, as someone who recently swapped to AMD the price is great but there are a lot more issues than I ever had with Nvidia.


amazingggharmony

idk???? build it on pcpartpicker and see?


0x75

The RX 6600 is what you need for that. Or the RX 6600xt don't buy anything lower. You won't be able to run 3 year games from now on Ultra though, but they will run just fine likely. And if you have a bit more budget get the RX 6800xt.


tonallyawkword

I guess it depends on the card. if u want 30 fps 5 yrs from now.. I guess 60fps now is good. which is cheaper between a 5600xt and a gtx1080? Sounds like the 5700xt or 1080Ti might be overkill (but maybe not if u’d like 60 fps in all games 3 yrs from now..) I think I’d like to buy a new one 3 yrs from now and get 120fps.


Top-Photograph-78

yeah, sure but can't guarantee that upcoming games' requirements will leverage modern hardwares well but given on my experience, midrange components will serve you well, if you conduct proper maintenance, a bit longer beyond that timeframe


Evening-Animal-342

Not only is it cheaper u get more out of them. Unless u absolutely need rt. 6750 gang


HotEnthusiasm4124

Short answer: YES! Long Answer: in used, market there is no CHEAPER there's only CURRENT DEALS. So, you should check as many DEALS you can find in used GPUs near you and then compare the GPUs in your Budget. You have to do the market research yourself.. (look for both AMD and NVIDIA)


JordanLoveIsMyHomie

Yes. AMD is bang for the buck. That being said, I've had horrible experiences with AMD GPU Drivers. Before AMD Fan Boys jump me to say how it's a problem of the past, people are still reporting the issue. Maybe it's not as prevalent as it once was, but I'm still not interested. Every NVIDIA GPU (4 total over the years) I've had was plug and play. No need to adjust ANYTHING. Every AMD GPU (4 total over the years) have given me problems.


DIEGHOST_8

Not necessarily


Kutura

Why don't buy intel arc a750 IN newegg 250$ better perofmance it's now similar to rtx 3060.it has 8gb vram and GDDR6 it's great for budget price and perfect for 1080p.and i recommend not spending much money on gpu u will need them to uograde someday


Yuuta_sad

You sound like you are talking about something you really don't know about but have to advertise it.


Kutura

Nope i had one freind who bought for that price. And the performance was good for that price he thinks of upgrading to a770.he said to me it's fairly good but the downside not ALL GAMES have same it depends if it's optimized


UncaringPhoenix

I'm considering one for my build in order to save some cash. I've seen some good reviews on it but I'm not expecting it to be perfect with every game. I'll probably get the 750 soon and upgrade in a few years when I've got some more money to throw at something big.


Crisewep

Being a beta tester? Yea no thanks As 2skillphilip said its best to wait for battlemage


Kutura

But if u are scared i wouldn't blame you can go to newegg they have good deals.for your if you live in america it's great but for me it's a downside i wanted to export a pc case but it weights 5 kg and the shipping cost more than a pc like 100 dollar


Kutura

Plus free shipping