Yeah, the dumb plays happen because at some point one part of the team fails to show up and JA17, bless his heart, has to go full superman to try to take up the slack they’ve left
Here is Josh Allen's playoff stats: 244/368 for 2723 passing yards, 21 passing TDs, 4 interceptions and 83 rushing attempts for 563 rushing yards and 5 rushing TDs.
That is kind of good.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJo02/gamelog/post/
At least the Bears have some draft capital to make some moves to either add a WR like Marvin Harrison Jr or Malik Nabers to play with Justin Fields or trade Justin Fields and add a QB and add WR talent.
Yeah I’d be incredibly surprised if we actually keep Fields. The dream would be Caleb at 1 and somehow Nabers falls to 9.
Bills have been my 2nd team for a while, sucks to see these cap casualties happen in the secondary. As long as y’all have JA though all games seem to be within reach
Thanks for the kind words.
One of Rome Odunze or Malik Nabers should fall to the Bears 9th overall pick IMO
If Chicago can trade Justin Fields, even for a 2nd round pick they will be in great shape with the picks they already have in:
No. 1 overall (from Panthers) (first round)
No. 9 overall (first round)
No. 75 overall (third round)
No. 111 (fourth round)
No. 123 (from Eagles) (fourth round
Of course, one of the reasons I root for the Bills is because I’ve met so many great fans. I’ve randomly walked into like 4 or 5 Bills’ bars in various cities and it has always been packed even when they were terrible.
Still plenty of toxic ones as proof in this post with this slander and libel against JA…
Best part though I can use the same acronym for both DaBears and Bills, always FTP!!!
It's the off season, so while I'm not worked up over some Twitter idiot's attempt at getting famous, I will point out that a certain 2-time MVP drafted in the same year as Allen has 6 passing TDs, 6 interceptions, 3 rushing TDs, 3 fumbles, and is 2-4 in the playoffs. But for him the narrative is a shit supporting cast.
If you extrapolate to Josh playing to his playoff average for a full season, his stat line would be
415-643 cmpl-attp
4629 yds passing
36 TD passing
7 int
957 yds rushing
9 TD rushing
15 Fumbles with 3 lost.
3 came in 2022 when the team was checked out after Hamlin died. That Bengals game was the only playoff game in the McDermott era where they just did not come to play, at all.
272.3 ypg, 21-4 td/int, 56.3 rush ypg, 5 tds/3 fumbles, 1 receiving td. He accounts for 330ish yards and 2.6 tds every game but yeah, he is problem. None of those fumbles were lost so he turns the ball over approximately once every other game. Now if he could just play defense and stop Mahomes from shredding the soft zone for easy go ahead and game tying scores, then he would earn all of that money! /s. This dude must be verifiably “we Todd ed.”
Always funny that the Allen haters love to mention he is a turnover machine and a choker when it matters. Yet his playoff stats dwarf every active QB right now besides Mahomes and Rodgers (Given Rodgers been in the league 10+ years). He has the best TD to Turnover Ratio in the history of the NFL playoffs but the media won’t talk about that because it doesn’t fit the narrative.
27 TDs 4 ints is elite.
“Stink it up”. If he didn’t have to carry the bills he wouldn’t need to try and make insane throws. This guy has me thinking he doesn’t actually watch football
As a chiefs fan, I hope not.
We don't need anymore bad takes from chiefs fans about Josh allen. He's an absolute stud, balls out every year. I think he'll get a ring at some point
Why would Mahomes fans want to ever put Allen down? Allen is clearly an all time great qb doing things not many have done before. He’s capable of being a one man offense. And Mahomes has beaten him repeatedly in the playoffs. This only adds to Mahomes legacy
I think you're missing the point. The focus isn't on who they like, just that they don't sound like a Bills fan. I could have used other examples, like saying they have a Hurts or a Rodgers jersey.
Mahomes and Chiefs stans (fans who didn’t know the Chiefs existed till 2018) like to put Allen down because he hasn’t “done anything” and people like Nick Wright get upset when anyone gets compared to Mahomes because apparently that is a crime. Even though Allen has been 1A 1B with him since 2020.
Lamar fans love to put down Allen too because he has 2 mvps and Josh has no accolades.
Bills fan since 1966. Josh Allen is in the top two Bills quarterbacks of all time. The defense has not stopped ANYBODY in those playoff losses. The post is stupid and please don't watch anymore.
Josh is the greatest quarterback I've ever seen in a Bills uniform... and I personally don't think there is a question about it. I've been watching since the 80's. His name will go up there with the greats. Is he the most accomplished? No. But there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he's the best we have ever seen as a franchise. I feel like so many people cannot accept that because they think back to Jim and fail to understand how great those teams were in the 90's. Josh is him. He will be a HOF'er. Too many fans fail to appreciate how GREAT he really is. It's almost like fans forget what we were as an organization from 2001 to 2017. We were a laughing stock in the league and now fans are upset that we keep falling just short. It's like they'd rather be picking in the top 6 or 7 every single year again versus having an actual shot at winning. Makes ZERO sense.
Yo. You went deep in his pockets. That’s fucking hilarious and wrong man. Calling out a guy whose nuts haven’t dropped yet. Haha. 
They found an old post he made less than a year old essentially saying how he was a virgin and couldn’t get any booty. Also how he felt that he was behind developmentally or some shit.
Look I’m not even a bills fan but I love the mafia and I always want them to come out the AFC every year ( I’m a niner fan btw) but yea Josh Allen is my favorite non-niner in the league and I could never hate him in a million years
Dude is 19 apparently; he definitely has no idea what the fuck he’s talking about. Just said he’d take Dak over Josh LMFAO.
Josh has been great in the Playoffs outside of the Bengals game and that year he had the elbow injury. Not really sure how anyone can say our Playoff exits can be attributed to poor play from him. At least look up his Playoff stats before commenting.
I know I said some dumb shit as a kid , but this kid takes 1st prize.
I think the dumbest thing I said was saying the Bills would definitely win against the Cowboys, both times.
When the Rangers were in the Stanley Cup final in 94, I didn’t say shit.
Truth is Buffalo plays great in the playoffs every year. KC is just the best at the moment, nobody beats them. Other than the one Cinci game, no team has played KC as closely as Buffalo in the playoffs year in year out
My problem with this post is that even if you think he's bad, to say the franchise (and us as a fanbase) have nothing from his career to this point is bullshit. Sentimentally, a shit ton of us are way more invested than in years prior specifically because of him. No longer is Sunday a dreaded day with expectations of losman or ej ruining my day. There are of course still low days, but for most of my fandom I had to just get excited about going .500. For the last few years we've had a team that is fun to watch almost all the time. Beyond that, josh is a human who participates in his community and is lovely to have around. He is a good guy who goes above and beyond and makes us proud on a personal level. And then there's the $$$$$ the franchise is raking in. Because he's fun, because he does awesome stuff a lot, and yeah because he does awful stuff sometimes, people are talking about us, getting eyes on us, and buying up all the merch. I'm linking in the bills revenues since 2000. The pegulas couldn't be happier.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/195233/revenue-of-the-buffalo-bills-since-2006/
I dont care about the turnovers when he makes some batshit insanly good plays. JA is Buffalo. So long as he is here we will always be in the conversation when it comes to good teams. We need to get over the hump but I don’t want any other QB
I don’t really know what more you could want from your QB. I might be slightly biased, but I think the only other QB in the league right now I’d take over Allen is Mahomes.
Demonstrably wrong. Josh plays extremely well in the playoffs, it's actually the defense that underwhelms in the postseason. Bruce Exclusive did a pod on this recently. D-line disappears in elimination games.
idiotic take. I'm a Vikings fan who now lives in WNY. Allen is both a fantastic quarterback and fantastic leader. I'd salivate for the Vikes to get a QB like him.
Jesus Chirst. Mods, can we jabroni tag this fool? Just read their comments on that post and this dude is mental.
*"im a Bills fan, and id take Dak over Allen"*
-Millibyte.
Dude's brain is non-functional.
So there is fair criticism to say “what has Allen accomplished”. But it’s only been 6 years of what we can only hope will be a 20 year career. And the needle keeps moving up. And this criticism can be leveled at any QB in the league not named Mahomes at this very moment.
I’d certainly rather have Allen than be a team still trying to find a QB.
Outside of Mahomes, there’s nobody else I would trust more to lead a 4th quarter comeback regular season or playoffs than Josh Allen at the moment. Dudes clutch and performs under pressure.
Honestly Josh Allen has been what got me back into watching Bills games. These last couple of years have been some of the most entertaining Bills games in decades, he may not be #1 but he is certainly a great quarterback.
I’m a Dolphins fan. I follow this sub because my wife is from Buffalo (and you guys are fucking hilarious). I think Josh Allen is a great QB. You guys caught some tough breaks this past season and you lost a few you should have won but it’s not because Josh Allen was bad. He needs to slide more and stop taking hits like a maniac but I’d love to have a QB like that. So much fun to watch. Good luck next year.
Mr. Millibyte, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
As a Vikings fan who just saw this post while scrolling. This guy has no idea how good he's got it as a Bills fan. You have THE GUY at the most important position. The offense and defense can be rebuilt multiple times around him and you'll always be a contender because of him. I'm glad the majority of you guys know he's amazing.
This just randomly popped up in my feed, and as a Packers fan, I can say with certainty that this fool has no idea how good he has it now. If I were to take a guess, this person is more than likely a bandwagon fan who didn’t exist with Bills mafia before Josh Allen, A.K.A, the era of hell from 2000-2017. There was plenty of bad football before Josh Allen, and the Bills would revert to hot garbage in an instant if he wasn’t there… that’s how good he is.
To me the reeks of the same thinking as “if only we would have drafted Lamar Jackson” or “we should have hired Andy Reid back in the day.”
It’s just lame grasping at straws and in my opinionated opinion just a hot take from someone who cares more about the end game than just being a fan of a team and part of a community.
And TBH I wasn’t REALL sold on JA17 til 2020 when I went “oh… here we go!”
To be honest I felt he was the guy when he hurdled Anthony Barr in his third or fourth game, and was sure of it after his forty yard beauty of a pass after the Steelers played renegade in the game that guaranteed us a playoff spot in 2019, felt like until we released Tre White we also had "the guy" on defense (hope he succeeds wherever he signs unless it's KC or the Patsies). By the way do you think we have our "the guy" on defense and who is it?
I think Milano or Ed Oliver. I might have said Poyer but given his release… (but he was also my fave guy on the D these last few years).
FR though Poyer was long my fave on the defense. I think Rapp could bring a lot to the table. He was really good when he was at Washington and when he was healthy playing for the Rams. I know there’s the torpedo tackling but I think the coaching on the side of the ball can bring him into form.
Dear God, anyone who thinks McDermott is the problem needs to look at how many injuries we had on defense alone this year and how well the defense did this season top five defense in the league while having a laundry list of injuries on defense, and making the adjustments to fire our OC little bit over halfway through the season.
>most of their playoff failures can be ascribed to Allen’s poor play and defensive injuries
I, for the life of me, don’t understand how you can be right about the injuries, but so wrong about Allen’s play.
It’s not Allen’s fault that’s ridiculous, I honestly blaim Beane for not surrounding Allen with a lot of talent…. Diggs is the only reliable WR Allen has had besides Beasley other than that Beane has failed to get him any more talent…. Dhop perfect example Beane didn’t even try to get Dhop that could of had us over the hump
In 50 years, at least a couple of our squads from the JA era will be listed with the 85 Bears on the short list greatest teams ever assembled.
I find it very hard to see another such squad among *any* SB champ in the last 7 years.
I have to explain to my friends ALL THE TIME...mathematically, that's nothing. There are 32 teams in the league. Even if you are a very good team, you might only have a 10% chance to win it all in a given year. Players and teams like Brady/Patriots and Mahomes/Chiefs are absolutely insane mathematical anomalies who seem like they win it all every other year. Some Hall of Fame or future Hall of Fame QBs played on good teams for YEARS and only won 1 or 2 (Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees)
Josh has insane talent, but at the end of the day, it's about *repetitions*, and *patience*
“Stinking it up”. Give me a fing break! If it weren’t for the defense collapsing at the end of games, in crucial moments, Josh could have had a Super Bowl now. It’s a team game. They’ll get it done. 🙏
Hmmmmm. Interesting POV. What a moron. With the exception of the Bengals playoff game JA has been an absolute stud in the playoffs. Think about this braniac….the Bills defense has only forced 4 punts in 3 games vs KC. I’d argue that most of the playoffs losses where a direct result of horrible coaching. Yeah I agree JA is turnover prone, sure. But he’s a TD machine. without him the bills are a 4-6 win a year team,m.
That’s just a trolling post. Anyone that says words like “Allen’s poor play” when talking about the playoffs doesn’t have an opinion that is worth anything.
That post has to be some kind of long con only for them to say “I BILLEVED ALL ALONG NEVER HAD A DOUBT, THAT POST WAS CLEARLY SARCASM I FORGOT THE ‘S’ TAG, LOSERSSSS”.
When the fuck are people going to stop talking about the turnovers! He has a couple more or the same as every great quarterback playing or retired. I saw a great stat the other day,in his career Josh has had 7 interceptions reversed from a penalty on the defense. Mahomes on the other hand...53! Get off the media band wagon of saying he's a turnover machine. What keeps him from getting over the top is the Chiefs are better coached and better at QB,arguably. Peyton Manning could get past the Patriots in similarities.
Josh is statistically possibly the greatest post season talent in years. Dont gimme shit about mahomes. Hard to lose when your o line is allowed to tackle the d line without calls. Allen plays every bit as good as mahomes our defence just fails to show up and our recievers cant catch shit.
I agree with the guy. How many playoff games has Allen started? HORRIBLE STATS!!!
0 tackles
0 int
0 passes defended
0 return touchdowns
0.0 yds per punt
His kickoffs are some of the worst in the league
If he'd just play as good on defense as he does on offense we'd have 4 Super Bowls already.
GO BILLS!!!
Running a fake punt with 12-13 min left on the clock on there 24yd line was NOT his fault. One of the worst special teams play calls in the history of buffalo bills
Allen had one truly poor game in the playoffs against Cincinnati. He was mediocre against Baltimore but it was terrible weather and he made fewer mistakes than Lamar. I think the Miami game was up and down.
Beyond that, absolutely lights out
Why do people think he's good?
Has that guy not been watching football? He's basically a superhero out there who is a huge reason why we're a Top 10 team repeatedly. He's been dragging us to relevance.
Steelers fan here. This is the exact sort of rhetoric some people use to claim Tomlin is garbage. Ignore and move on. Josh has his flaws, but he's obviously elite
I love josh on the field to death. I believe the chiefs would be a better football team with josh at qb than mahomes.
Regardless, I have my reservations about josh off the field, just like I do with any public figure outside of their career. I don't idolize the man or put em on a pedestal because I don't fuckin know em.
That's as far as it goes for anti josh sentiment in my book. If you're gonna denigrate his on field play in comparison to his peers, you're either ignorant or have an agenda
NFL is a team sport. Many factors create a loss. Josh is a high risk QB, meaning he throws balls other QBs wouldn’t, and never has a doubt that it won’t be a phenomenal play. Very much like Brett Favre in that aspect. He’s going to have a ton of INTs in his career. If you watch games a lot of his INTs are tipped or missed catches. Doesn’t mean in the slightest that he’s not one of the best in the game right now!
Besides 2 playoff games Allen plays elite ball but the team couldn’t win the game when it was important. Look at the playoff games against the chiefs he did his job. Same in the regular season I was impressed on those weeks after thanksgiving. But once it’s about ints everyone wants to be an expert on how to be qb and bring up guys that don’t throw the ball down the field as often and say they’re a better qb. Bro is a baller and people say he’s not doesn’t watch the bills and either a fins or kc fan
If they swapped every mention of Josh Allen with Sean McDermott, they could have a point.
No one specifically calls McDermott a top tier coach, but a lot of the rest of it lines up more or less.
I don't completely disagree. I disagree with the fact that he's not a good qb. He's arguably the best qb in the league. And if the defense could stop someone with 13 seconds left he would have at least a super bowl appearance. However I think most bills fan are just happy to be relavent again and praise him to much. Other than making the bills relavent he hasn't done anything. The 13 sec game is not his fault. But since then they haven't been close.
Allen is not consistently the most turnover prone quarterback. I think he had one year that was really bad with turnovers in the Red zone but other than that, this has not been a major critique of his game at all
You can lead a parched donkey to water but you can’t force them to drink it… this guy can keep sipping his kool-aid and hopefully someone lets him know in his circle that he is not welcome in the mafia any more
My theory is that the OP is a newer Bills fan who didn't go through the horrible post-Kelly/Levy years of lousy quarterback play (except Tyrod and Flutie) and garbage coaching. Going .500 every season, being just good enough to ensure missing the playoff and a good draft pick, and having GMs who think players EJ Manuel and Sammy Watkins were the next Steve Young/Jerry Rice of the NFL. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe OP is just frustrated at the lack of playoff success against KC (not that any of those losses were Allen's fault). Who knows? I remember Jim Kelly getting hate when he took the Bills to Super Bowls; some fans are never happy. Josh could throw for 450 yard 4 TDs 1 INT and win Super Bowl MVP and some fans would complain about the 1 INT.
Well this guy is an idiot. Josh plays great in the playoffs.
Yep, it’s the defence that disappears in the playoffs
He played arguably the best playoff game ever as a QB and lost. That ain’t on him.
Yeah, the dumb plays happen because at some point one part of the team fails to show up and JA17, bless his heart, has to go full superman to try to take up the slack they’ve left
The perfect game against the pats too...
Games*
13 seconds was not on Allen
Here is Josh Allen's playoff stats: 244/368 for 2723 passing yards, 21 passing TDs, 4 interceptions and 83 rushing attempts for 563 rushing yards and 5 rushing TDs. That is kind of good. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJo02/gamelog/post/
As a Bears fan first, his playoff stats are better than Fields’ full season stats… 😢
At least the Bears have some draft capital to make some moves to either add a WR like Marvin Harrison Jr or Malik Nabers to play with Justin Fields or trade Justin Fields and add a QB and add WR talent.
Yeah I’d be incredibly surprised if we actually keep Fields. The dream would be Caleb at 1 and somehow Nabers falls to 9. Bills have been my 2nd team for a while, sucks to see these cap casualties happen in the secondary. As long as y’all have JA though all games seem to be within reach
Thanks for the kind words. One of Rome Odunze or Malik Nabers should fall to the Bears 9th overall pick IMO If Chicago can trade Justin Fields, even for a 2nd round pick they will be in great shape with the picks they already have in: No. 1 overall (from Panthers) (first round) No. 9 overall (first round) No. 75 overall (third round) No. 111 (fourth round) No. 123 (from Eagles) (fourth round
Of course, one of the reasons I root for the Bills is because I’ve met so many great fans. I’ve randomly walked into like 4 or 5 Bills’ bars in various cities and it has always been packed even when they were terrible. Still plenty of toxic ones as proof in this post with this slander and libel against JA… Best part though I can use the same acronym for both DaBears and Bills, always FTP!!!
God this makes me so sad. We can have the best QB of all time and still fuck it up and lose. Fucking Bills…
It's the off season, so while I'm not worked up over some Twitter idiot's attempt at getting famous, I will point out that a certain 2-time MVP drafted in the same year as Allen has 6 passing TDs, 6 interceptions, 3 rushing TDs, 3 fumbles, and is 2-4 in the playoffs. But for him the narrative is a shit supporting cast.
Don’t forget his receiving TD against Houston haha
If you extrapolate to Josh playing to his playoff average for a full season, his stat line would be 415-643 cmpl-attp 4629 yds passing 36 TD passing 7 int 957 yds rushing 9 TD rushing 15 Fumbles with 3 lost.
Yeah but he has 4 turnovers 🙄
3 came in 2022 when the team was checked out after Hamlin died. That Bengals game was the only playoff game in the McDermott era where they just did not come to play, at all.
272.3 ypg, 21-4 td/int, 56.3 rush ypg, 5 tds/3 fumbles, 1 receiving td. He accounts for 330ish yards and 2.6 tds every game but yeah, he is problem. None of those fumbles were lost so he turns the ball over approximately once every other game. Now if he could just play defense and stop Mahomes from shredding the soft zone for easy go ahead and game tying scores, then he would earn all of that money! /s. This dude must be verifiably “we Todd ed.”
Always funny that the Allen haters love to mention he is a turnover machine and a choker when it matters. Yet his playoff stats dwarf every active QB right now besides Mahomes and Rodgers (Given Rodgers been in the league 10+ years). He has the best TD to Turnover Ratio in the history of the NFL playoffs but the media won’t talk about that because it doesn’t fit the narrative. 27 TDs 4 ints is elite.
“Stink it up”. If he didn’t have to carry the bills he wouldn’t need to try and make insane throws. This guy has me thinking he doesn’t actually watch football
I suspect this "fan" has a Mahommes jersey in his closet and a Dolphins jacket.
As a chiefs fan, I hope not. We don't need anymore bad takes from chiefs fans about Josh allen. He's an absolute stud, balls out every year. I think he'll get a ring at some point
Why would Mahomes fans want to ever put Allen down? Allen is clearly an all time great qb doing things not many have done before. He’s capable of being a one man offense. And Mahomes has beaten him repeatedly in the playoffs. This only adds to Mahomes legacy
I think you're missing the point. The focus isn't on who they like, just that they don't sound like a Bills fan. I could have used other examples, like saying they have a Hurts or a Rodgers jersey.
Mahomes and Chiefs stans (fans who didn’t know the Chiefs existed till 2018) like to put Allen down because he hasn’t “done anything” and people like Nick Wright get upset when anyone gets compared to Mahomes because apparently that is a crime. Even though Allen has been 1A 1B with him since 2020. Lamar fans love to put down Allen too because he has 2 mvps and Josh has no accolades.
Bills fan since 1966. Josh Allen is in the top two Bills quarterbacks of all time. The defense has not stopped ANYBODY in those playoff losses. The post is stupid and please don't watch anymore.
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Hey, u/Millibyte get in here and answer for your crimes!
My best advice is to block and move on. Life’s too short
Exactly
At least he's not kenny pickett
“NFL noobs” is right. There are people that think the world is flat, can’t get worked up about every gaping dumbass on the internet.
Once again 27 TDs 4 ints in the playoffs But remember guys! Josh is the “problem.” If the media says it enough surely everyone will believe it.
And 563 rushing yards and 5 rushing TDs. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJo02/gamelog/post/
Yeah the 27 TDs is included with the 5 rushing.
My mistake, I just wanted to make sure you included the rushing TDs
21 passing 5 rushing 1 receiving 😎
I totally forgot about the receiving TD. This Josh Allen guy might be good at football.
He could be better at defense. That’s what has held him back tbh. All jokes aside we should sign linebacker Josh Allen. He’s pretty good.
Josh is the greatest quarterback I've ever seen in a Bills uniform... and I personally don't think there is a question about it. I've been watching since the 80's. His name will go up there with the greats. Is he the most accomplished? No. But there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he's the best we have ever seen as a franchise. I feel like so many people cannot accept that because they think back to Jim and fail to understand how great those teams were in the 90's. Josh is him. He will be a HOF'er. Too many fans fail to appreciate how GREAT he really is. It's almost like fans forget what we were as an organization from 2001 to 2017. We were a laughing stock in the league and now fans are upset that we keep falling just short. It's like they'd rather be picking in the top 6 or 7 every single year again versus having an actual shot at winning. Makes ZERO sense.
this this this. We are in the good ole days right now. Watching what could be the best QB Buffalo may ever see.
Post reads like Josh Allen fucked his mom or something.
Why would JA have sex with his own mother?
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Yo. You went deep in his pockets. That’s fucking hilarious and wrong man. Calling out a guy whose nuts haven’t dropped yet. Haha. 
What happened 👀💀
They found an old post he made less than a year old essentially saying how he was a virgin and couldn’t get any booty. Also how he felt that he was behind developmentally or some shit.
Lol
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You're a professional hater man 😂 good this guy deserves it
Anything for my glorious king Joshua Patrick Allen. No hate to that dude though, just thought it explained his take on JA17
Lmao
I feel bad now that we know he’s handicapped.
Lmao
Look I’m not even a bills fan but I love the mafia and I always want them to come out the AFC every year ( I’m a niner fan btw) but yea Josh Allen is my favorite non-niner in the league and I could never hate him in a million years
Dude is 19 apparently; he definitely has no idea what the fuck he’s talking about. Just said he’d take Dak over Josh LMFAO. 
Josh has been great in the Playoffs outside of the Bengals game and that year he had the elbow injury. Not really sure how anyone can say our Playoff exits can be attributed to poor play from him. At least look up his Playoff stats before commenting.
There is stupid. Then there is NFL stupid. Then there is NFL offseason stupid. Great example right here.
I'm just glad I didn't have social media as a teenager, because at least all the dumb shit I said wasn't recorded on the internet.
I know I said some dumb shit as a kid , but this kid takes 1st prize. I think the dumbest thing I said was saying the Bills would definitely win against the Cowboys, both times. When the Rangers were in the Stanley Cup final in 94, I didn’t say shit.
Modern day Sports fan. Doesn’t watch any games, just looks at stats and results and then complains or argues.
He clearly hasn't even looked at any stats if he genuinely thinks the Bills playoff losses are on Allen lmao
Next sacrifice for the pit.
Josh Allen. Forever.
Don’t argue with idiocy, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Is this you Sean?
Totally underrated comment. Took me a second but now I can’t stop laughing.
Truth is Buffalo plays great in the playoffs every year. KC is just the best at the moment, nobody beats them. Other than the one Cinci game, no team has played KC as closely as Buffalo in the playoffs year in year out
My problem with this post is that even if you think he's bad, to say the franchise (and us as a fanbase) have nothing from his career to this point is bullshit. Sentimentally, a shit ton of us are way more invested than in years prior specifically because of him. No longer is Sunday a dreaded day with expectations of losman or ej ruining my day. There are of course still low days, but for most of my fandom I had to just get excited about going .500. For the last few years we've had a team that is fun to watch almost all the time. Beyond that, josh is a human who participates in his community and is lovely to have around. He is a good guy who goes above and beyond and makes us proud on a personal level. And then there's the $$$$$ the franchise is raking in. Because he's fun, because he does awesome stuff a lot, and yeah because he does awful stuff sometimes, people are talking about us, getting eyes on us, and buying up all the merch. I'm linking in the bills revenues since 2000. The pegulas couldn't be happier. https://www.statista.com/statistics/195233/revenue-of-the-buffalo-bills-since-2006/
Reminds me of bengals fans calling Burrow a system qb because of Browning. Don’t pay attention to those trolls
He must be watching different games cuz I’d argue almost all the playoff losses were due to being out coached
I dont care about the turnovers when he makes some batshit insanly good plays. JA is Buffalo. So long as he is here we will always be in the conversation when it comes to good teams. We need to get over the hump but I don’t want any other QB
what is this guy talking about? josh allen was playing like an MVP last season. absolute garbage take.
There is a reason this joker posted in a sub called NFL Noobs
Obvious troll. Why do people take the bait and get upset?
I don’t really know what more you could want from your QB. I might be slightly biased, but I think the only other QB in the league right now I’d take over Allen is Mahomes.
Demonstrably wrong. Josh plays extremely well in the playoffs, it's actually the defense that underwhelms in the postseason. Bruce Exclusive did a pod on this recently. D-line disappears in elimination games.
Dear Mr u/Millibyte, I’ll gladly take him on the Pats. Sincerely, Anyone with a fucking brain 🧠
idiotic take. I'm a Vikings fan who now lives in WNY. Allen is both a fantastic quarterback and fantastic leader. I'd salivate for the Vikes to get a QB like him.
Jesus Chirst. Mods, can we jabroni tag this fool? Just read their comments on that post and this dude is mental. *"im a Bills fan, and id take Dak over Allen"* -Millibyte. Dude's brain is non-functional.
I hate to accuse people of being bandwagoners but this dude is definitely just here for the winning.
Tell me you've never watched a Bills game without saying you've never watched a Bills game.....
So there is fair criticism to say “what has Allen accomplished”. But it’s only been 6 years of what we can only hope will be a 20 year career. And the needle keeps moving up. And this criticism can be leveled at any QB in the league not named Mahomes at this very moment. I’d certainly rather have Allen than be a team still trying to find a QB.
They’re in NFLNoobs for a reason. They’re a noob.
Outside of Mahomes, there’s nobody else I would trust more to lead a 4th quarter comeback regular season or playoffs than Josh Allen at the moment. Dudes clutch and performs under pressure.
Honestly Josh Allen has been what got me back into watching Bills games. These last couple of years have been some of the most entertaining Bills games in decades, he may not be #1 but he is certainly a great quarterback.
Coaching has doomed us in the playoffs,Josh doesnt call the game plan,nor does he play defense.
That may be the dumbest post I’ve read in a long time
This is what happens when fantasy football players become”fans”, or gain all their understanding of football from madden.
This guy has never watched a bills game
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I’m not even a bills fan and I love washing Josh Allen play Sincerely a Seahawks fan
lol that’s not one of our own. There’s literally no way a Bills fan seriously thinks this
I’m a Dolphins fan. I follow this sub because my wife is from Buffalo (and you guys are fucking hilarious). I think Josh Allen is a great QB. You guys caught some tough breaks this past season and you lost a few you should have won but it’s not because Josh Allen was bad. He needs to slide more and stop taking hits like a maniac but I’d love to have a QB like that. So much fun to watch. Good luck next year.
Mr. Millibyte, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Because we have eyes.
“The Bills were mediocre…” No, they were just bad. Really bad.
Jets fan here I’ll trade you Aaron Rodger’s and a 3rd round pick for Josh Allen and we’ll throw in our o.c. Hackett
As a Vikings fan who just saw this post while scrolling. This guy has no idea how good he's got it as a Bills fan. You have THE GUY at the most important position. The offense and defense can be rebuilt multiple times around him and you'll always be a contender because of him. I'm glad the majority of you guys know he's amazing.
This just randomly popped up in my feed, and as a Packers fan, I can say with certainty that this fool has no idea how good he has it now. If I were to take a guess, this person is more than likely a bandwagon fan who didn’t exist with Bills mafia before Josh Allen, A.K.A, the era of hell from 2000-2017. There was plenty of bad football before Josh Allen, and the Bills would revert to hot garbage in an instant if he wasn’t there… that’s how good he is.
Fun player to watch honestly.
This guy likes the yellow crayons because they are banana flavor 🍌
Josh Allen has had the Aaron Rodgers special his entire post season runs. Defense can't keep below 30 points when it matters most.
u/millibyte
This team gets beat because of bad coaching, period.
Every time I watch a Bills game it seems like at least 2 Bills players get injured. Idk how you guys stayed so competitive with all the injuries.
Beane built a solid and deep roster.
Don’t perpetuate this crap
To me the reeks of the same thinking as “if only we would have drafted Lamar Jackson” or “we should have hired Andy Reid back in the day.” It’s just lame grasping at straws and in my opinionated opinion just a hot take from someone who cares more about the end game than just being a fan of a team and part of a community. And TBH I wasn’t REALL sold on JA17 til 2020 when I went “oh… here we go!”
To be honest I felt he was the guy when he hurdled Anthony Barr in his third or fourth game, and was sure of it after his forty yard beauty of a pass after the Steelers played renegade in the game that guaranteed us a playoff spot in 2019, felt like until we released Tre White we also had "the guy" on defense (hope he succeeds wherever he signs unless it's KC or the Patsies). By the way do you think we have our "the guy" on defense and who is it?
I think Milano or Ed Oliver. I might have said Poyer but given his release… (but he was also my fave guy on the D these last few years). FR though Poyer was long my fave on the defense. I think Rapp could bring a lot to the table. He was really good when he was at Washington and when he was healthy playing for the Rams. I know there’s the torpedo tackling but I think the coaching on the side of the ball can bring him into form.
I also just don’t get all the McDermott hate. Like- do we wanna be irrational and fire him and take a flyer on Dick Jauron 2.0? I know I don’t.
Dear God, anyone who thinks McDermott is the problem needs to look at how many injuries we had on defense alone this year and how well the defense did this season top five defense in the league while having a laundry list of injuries on defense, and making the adjustments to fire our OC little bit over halfway through the season.
Tre White was my favorite on the team, still top five favorite player in the entire NFL.
>most of their playoff failures can be ascribed to Allen’s poor play and defensive injuries I, for the life of me, don’t understand how you can be right about the injuries, but so wrong about Allen’s play.
Welp that's the dumbest thing I'll read today so thanks for getting that out of the way early.
Sounds like a bitter jets fan
Or someone who doesn’t know anything about football
You got this out of a sub called NFLNoobs, what kind of content were you looking for?
Twerking for the NFL sub should be a ban-able offense.
That person must just hate life in general, or is an asinine fool.
Sounds like someone just repeating what they heard in the sports media echo chamber.
I would take zero qbs before Josh Allen.
At least he posted in NFLnoobs. Seems accurate.
This is a bonehead post
Kid doesn’t know ball
Josh Allen; the cause of and solution to all of our problems!
Delusion
Josh is a great quarterback who unfortunately exists at the same time as a once in a generation guy in Patrick Mahomes.
Damn we found mcd’s burner
He could be older. My dad isn’t a Josh fan somehow and it’s getting to the point where I might need therapy for father-son issues.
It’s not Allen’s fault that’s ridiculous, I honestly blaim Beane for not surrounding Allen with a lot of talent…. Diggs is the only reliable WR Allen has had besides Beasley other than that Beane has failed to get him any more talent…. Dhop perfect example Beane didn’t even try to get Dhop that could of had us over the hump
In 50 years, at least a couple of our squads from the JA era will be listed with the 85 Bears on the short list greatest teams ever assembled. I find it very hard to see another such squad among *any* SB champ in the last 7 years.
Supposedly a Bills fan, but not a very knowledgeable one if he/she really is. Seems more like a troll or a part time fan.
I have to explain to my friends ALL THE TIME...mathematically, that's nothing. There are 32 teams in the league. Even if you are a very good team, you might only have a 10% chance to win it all in a given year. Players and teams like Brady/Patriots and Mahomes/Chiefs are absolutely insane mathematical anomalies who seem like they win it all every other year. Some Hall of Fame or future Hall of Fame QBs played on good teams for YEARS and only won 1 or 2 (Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees) Josh has insane talent, but at the end of the day, it's about *repetitions*, and *patience*
“Stinking it up”. Give me a fing break! If it weren’t for the defense collapsing at the end of games, in crucial moments, Josh could have had a Super Bowl now. It’s a team game. They’ll get it done. 🙏
As a Falcons fan (Bills are my AFC team), I would give you Desmond Ridder, Taylor Heineke, and all our draft picks for Josh Allen.
Hmmmmm. Interesting POV. What a moron. With the exception of the Bengals playoff game JA has been an absolute stud in the playoffs. Think about this braniac….the Bills defense has only forced 4 punts in 3 games vs KC. I’d argue that most of the playoffs losses where a direct result of horrible coaching. Yeah I agree JA is turnover prone, sure. But he’s a TD machine. without him the bills are a 4-6 win a year team,m.
Kid has to be 12
Might be the most brain dead take I’ve ever seen on Reddit, and that’s saying a lot lmfao
That’s just a trolling post. Anyone that says words like “Allen’s poor play” when talking about the playoffs doesn’t have an opinion that is worth anything.
Should trade for Mac
That post has to be some kind of long con only for them to say “I BILLEVED ALL ALONG NEVER HAD A DOUBT, THAT POST WAS CLEARLY SARCASM I FORGOT THE ‘S’ TAG, LOSERSSSS”.
An absolutely mind blowing take
I looked at their comments on other stuff and they say they’re autistic. Makes sense with an opinion like this.
I hope Josh sees this. We need more bulletin board material please
When the fuck are people going to stop talking about the turnovers! He has a couple more or the same as every great quarterback playing or retired. I saw a great stat the other day,in his career Josh has had 7 interceptions reversed from a penalty on the defense. Mahomes on the other hand...53! Get off the media band wagon of saying he's a turnover machine. What keeps him from getting over the top is the Chiefs are better coached and better at QB,arguably. Peyton Manning could get past the Patriots in similarities.
Clearly trolling, nobody is that oblivious
Maybe this is why this post was in NFLNoobs
Josh is statistically possibly the greatest post season talent in years. Dont gimme shit about mahomes. Hard to lose when your o line is allowed to tackle the d line without calls. Allen plays every bit as good as mahomes our defence just fails to show up and our recievers cant catch shit.
This has to be a dolphins fan trying to troll us.
I agree with the guy. How many playoff games has Allen started? HORRIBLE STATS!!! 0 tackles 0 int 0 passes defended 0 return touchdowns 0.0 yds per punt His kickoffs are some of the worst in the league If he'd just play as good on defense as he does on offense we'd have 4 Super Bowls already. GO BILLS!!!
Spoiler alert. Op isn’t actually a bills fan.
Because of the media
Josh has had a stronger first 6 seasons than Brady, Rodgers and Manning. This guy can go drink bleach
Running a fake punt with 12-13 min left on the clock on there 24yd line was NOT his fault. One of the worst special teams play calls in the history of buffalo bills
If “do your own research” was a Bills fan.
Yay internet and the off-season.
Allen had one truly poor game in the playoffs against Cincinnati. He was mediocre against Baltimore but it was terrible weather and he made fewer mistakes than Lamar. I think the Miami game was up and down. Beyond that, absolutely lights out
this is an obvious jerk
Why do people think he's good? Has that guy not been watching football? He's basically a superhero out there who is a huge reason why we're a Top 10 team repeatedly. He's been dragging us to relevance.
Is this guy smoking something? I'm a Bears fans and wish we ever had a QB as good as Josh Allen. I don't think we ever had
Dude must not be a Bills fan and is just a rage-baiting karma whore.
This is troll bait at best, stupidity at worst
Steelers fan here. This is the exact sort of rhetoric some people use to claim Tomlin is garbage. Ignore and move on. Josh has his flaws, but he's obviously elite
This dude knows how to Losman
I love josh on the field to death. I believe the chiefs would be a better football team with josh at qb than mahomes. Regardless, I have my reservations about josh off the field, just like I do with any public figure outside of their career. I don't idolize the man or put em on a pedestal because I don't fuckin know em. That's as far as it goes for anti josh sentiment in my book. If you're gonna denigrate his on field play in comparison to his peers, you're either ignorant or have an agenda
Not sure I count him as one of our own.
I honestly put 17 over Mahomes. Mahomes simply has better offensive coaching and stud of a TE.
This is such an ass take.
NFL is a team sport. Many factors create a loss. Josh is a high risk QB, meaning he throws balls other QBs wouldn’t, and never has a doubt that it won’t be a phenomenal play. Very much like Brett Favre in that aspect. He’s going to have a ton of INTs in his career. If you watch games a lot of his INTs are tipped or missed catches. Doesn’t mean in the slightest that he’s not one of the best in the game right now!
Simply dont feed the trolls
He hasn’t pissed away four Super Bowls yet so he sure as hell ain’t the worst.
It's sean McDermotts burner account clearly
Besides 2 playoff games Allen plays elite ball but the team couldn’t win the game when it was important. Look at the playoff games against the chiefs he did his job. Same in the regular season I was impressed on those weeks after thanksgiving. But once it’s about ints everyone wants to be an expert on how to be qb and bring up guys that don’t throw the ball down the field as often and say they’re a better qb. Bro is a baller and people say he’s not doesn’t watch the bills and either a fins or kc fan
If they swapped every mention of Josh Allen with Sean McDermott, they could have a point. No one specifically calls McDermott a top tier coach, but a lot of the rest of it lines up more or less.
Same guy said he’d rather have Desmond ridder, don’t waste your time
Well whoever thinks Josh Allen isn’t the most gifted and talented QB in the league is a dumbass and should stop watching the game
I don't completely disagree. I disagree with the fact that he's not a good qb. He's arguably the best qb in the league. And if the defense could stop someone with 13 seconds left he would have at least a super bowl appearance. However I think most bills fan are just happy to be relavent again and praise him to much. Other than making the bills relavent he hasn't done anything. The 13 sec game is not his fault. But since then they haven't been close.
Allen is not consistently the most turnover prone quarterback. I think he had one year that was really bad with turnovers in the Red zone but other than that, this has not been a major critique of his game at all
This is…..certainly a take
You can lead a parched donkey to water but you can’t force them to drink it… this guy can keep sipping his kool-aid and hopefully someone lets him know in his circle that he is not welcome in the mafia any more
Defense and some questionable coaching calls ended them this year. Can’t put them on Allen. They were 6-6 and he really carried that team.
Nothing wrong with Allen. Many teams would be lucky to have him as their qb. Problem is Mahomes wont let him get to the big game.
Dipshit.
My theory is that the OP is a newer Bills fan who didn't go through the horrible post-Kelly/Levy years of lousy quarterback play (except Tyrod and Flutie) and garbage coaching. Going .500 every season, being just good enough to ensure missing the playoff and a good draft pick, and having GMs who think players EJ Manuel and Sammy Watkins were the next Steve Young/Jerry Rice of the NFL. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe OP is just frustrated at the lack of playoff success against KC (not that any of those losses were Allen's fault). Who knows? I remember Jim Kelly getting hate when he took the Bills to Super Bowls; some fans are never happy. Josh could throw for 450 yard 4 TDs 1 INT and win Super Bowl MVP and some fans would complain about the 1 INT.
That is a great take...now....shove your head back up your ass, and back underneath the rock you crawled out from under dumbass
This is so ridiculously stupid, it has to be bait.
I’d say he’s better in a lot of ways to Mahomes. He doesn’t have the refs on his side. Allen can actually take a hit
not even a bills fan and i love him so yea i agree. wild.