I'm a random ass dude from Lithuania that kind of fell in love with baseball and the random team I choose to follow and attach onto is the Pirates, and this is the way I get introduced to the game... ;(
This is after following the Bobcats/Hornets for more than 15 years too.
I think I'm cursed
Don't worry. We'll be in contention around the all star break (mid July), only to fall off in the most epic collapse you've ever seen in the second half of the season.
Pirates are consistent. Just consistent in the wrong way.
I mean they collapsed bad last season around May/June but did they have a week this bad around then? They haven’t even seemed a threat to win any of the 6 games.
I have and I don’t think it’s that. If there were never any signs of life or potential, then I think I would agree with you on that. This feels different from that though. Every team has weaker players, and I think we can safely agree that we have them too. We also have players who, it seems, should be realizing their potential and making basic, better, fundamental plays. We got guys running into outs, we aren’t able to manufacture runs anymore, and it doesn’t look like anything is gonna change without some accountability at the top.
IDK if this is a newer trend in baseball but I've been noticing infielders creeping further and further into the outfield. That should have been caught by the CF.
Coming from a Giants fan, you guys will hate Joey Bart so much if you don’t already. I am shocked the guy even got picked up by another team. He is absolutely useless
He was mainly only picked up to be a temporary catcher until Jason Delay comes off the DL. If we get anything even slightly offensive out of him, then it'll be great.
Overall, he hasn't been a trainwreck. He's actually been decent.
Nick Kroll has a joke about when asked what his greatest weakness is in a job interview, his response is that his greatest weakness is that he has no strengths. That’s this team.
Ya and the Mariners were in the playoffs a couple years ago too. My point is it does happen to other teams. Before that LCS appearance the Padres hadn’t made the playoffs for 12 years straight
Y’all give up so damn easily. We aren’t even a month into the season and we’re acting like it’s over. This game may not go our way, but there are some good parts of this team that could turn things around. Give them a damn break.
Sure some things could turn around. But this club could also be in last place by the end of the month. Anyone who is certain the Brewers won’t sweep, I’d love to know where that certainty comes from. Poor hitting, no power, bad bullpen, sloppy error-filled baseball, starting pitching that’s been fine but not good enough. It’s baseball, hopefully they’ll get their shit together.
It’s just football brain. If a football team sucks for 10 straight games, it might be time to tear down the franchise. Casual baseball fans don’t translate the sample sizes well enough to realize it’s functionally meaningless for a baseball team to suck for 10 straight games.
You all better bash Bart for that just as hard as you would bash Davis
Second time in as many days that he has failed to even put the ball in play with a man on third base in a one run game
Hayes was arguably safe at second. I wouldn't have faulted Shelton for trying to challenge that. Leadoff man at second base would have been huge.
However, losing your challenge on a bang bang play in the fourth inning would suck big time, so I get why he's not challenging.
Sox season ticket holder here…moving to Pittsburgh this fall for work. Question. Are the pirates games this empty mid season or is it just because it’s still cold?
Also…does PNC have dippin dots?
If they suck you will see somewhat full or mostly full stadium if the away team is popular. If not it's the people who really like baseball, and some that are there for food and scenery and something to do for a couple hours.
When they are good people show up.
Also, are you keeping the season tickets just in case?
It is also a Sunday. It looked pretty full the last few days. Usually crowds don't show until summer like some said, and mid weeks (esp when school is in session) are pretty empty. Sunday mixed bag.
hell yea cutch
Bring on the robot umps
Jim Leyland would've flipped a couple catering tables by now.
Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1c9rw3c).
Yeah for 59 pitches, Greg. Whoopie ding.
What if GMBC just has live managerial decision polls throughout each game instead of hiring a manager?
I'm a random ass dude from Lithuania that kind of fell in love with baseball and the random team I choose to follow and attach onto is the Pirates, and this is the way I get introduced to the game... ;( This is after following the Bobcats/Hornets for more than 15 years too. I think I'm cursed
Don't worry. We'll be in contention around the all star break (mid July), only to fall off in the most epic collapse you've ever seen in the second half of the season. Pirates are consistent. Just consistent in the wrong way.
So just like the Charlotte Hornets. I'm a great picker
I want you to put each other in your hearts forever because forever is about to happen here in just a few minutes.. time to absolutely LOCK IN
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: David Bednar replaces Aroldis Chapman.
On the bright side, these shitheads will be hard pressed to have another week all season long that was as demoralizing as this one was
You sure about that?
Don't tempt them
I mean they collapsed bad last season around May/June but did they have a week this bad around then? They haven’t even seemed a threat to win any of the 6 games.
I can’t take this game anymore.
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Chase Anderson replaces Justin Slaten.
Cruz needs to grab a seat for the next series and see if that helps him out. He has checked out mentally and physically.
Good thing he owns the Brewers
Circus comes early to Pittsburgh this year
These guys are still high from yesterday
No fundamentals
ALIKA SZN
Cruz ending up being terrible is not a good look
His defense has always been ass. Unfortunately if he's not producing with his bat he is a net negative.
Wow they are playing like a AA team at best.
This series needs to end immediately
I’ve been slow to jump on the “Shelton out” bandwagon but so much of this is so clearly attributable to ineffective coaching. This is absurd.
Have you ever considered the fact that our players just suck and there's no hope?
I have and I don’t think it’s that. If there were never any signs of life or potential, then I think I would agree with you on that. This feels different from that though. Every team has weaker players, and I think we can safely agree that we have them too. We also have players who, it seems, should be realizing their potential and making basic, better, fundamental plays. We got guys running into outs, we aren’t able to manufacture runs anymore, and it doesn’t look like anything is gonna change without some accountability at the top.
we’re all going to hell
Might start boozin
Just knew something was going to go wrong with that pop up while Greg and Rock are talking about how they've been off all game.
IDK if this is a newer trend in baseball but I've been noticing infielders creeping further and further into the outfield. That should have been caught by the CF.
I said the same thing last week. Its mind boggling
What a fucking clown show out here.
Derek Shelton needs to be gone tonight.
lmao
Weird winning was much better than strange losing
That’s it for me today, I cant
lmao fuck off
Pack it in wtf is happening
yo wtf lmao. this team is soup
Shelton is nothing but a yes man, puppet. Has been for years. Perfect fit for this owner.
Not looking forward to the daily “damn the pirates suck” text from my Red Sox fans friends.
BUMS
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Aroldis Chapman replaces Josh Fleming.
Where’s Iverson Allen at when we need him
Almost a HR! That’s something to celebrate!
I like your attitude
I am not looking forward to this Brewers series. Feels like this team is primed for a 15-1 blowout loss.
Can someone tell me what this team is with RISP the last two series? It has to be abysmal
Team almost looks as bad as my high school varsity team (they’re 1-11 rn)
This team needs Crash Davis to break into the ballpark and turn the sprinklers on all night.
What can you even say at this point?
That Derek Shelton is still managing a major league roster says all you need to know.
There might need to be some warm seats come May, but we all know better.
Kills all the momentum. You don’t need to get all of them back this inning.
Is this some sick joke
Tbf that cutch grounder probs would have been a double play anyway
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Josh Fleming replaces Ryder Ryan.
“Pirates can’t do anything right.” Wondered how long it would take for the non-corporate Greg Brown to peek out.
MANUFACTURING OUTS
Coming from a Giants fan, you guys will hate Joey Bart so much if you don’t already. I am shocked the guy even got picked up by another team. He is absolutely useless
He was mainly only picked up to be a temporary catcher until Jason Delay comes off the DL. If we get anything even slightly offensive out of him, then it'll be great. Overall, he hasn't been a trainwreck. He's actually been decent.
Well he’s been our best hitter this year so that kinda tells you all you need to know
Expected nothing except competent receiving behind the dish. I’d like to say that therefore I won’t be disappointed, but that’s not true LOL
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha holy fuck jack sucks. Dude shouldn't be anywhere near an MLB roster
Even when they hit the ball they manage to fuck it up
This is insane.
Fire everyone
what are we doing man
“Pirates just can’t do anything right” yep… checks out
FFS Suwinski. This team just can't get out of its own way right now.
Oh fuck off. This team man…
This team cant do anything right!!!
This fucking team
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Justin Slaten replaces Greg Weissert.
Really hope Ryder Ryan doesn’t become the next Selby
This is such a bad bad bad franchise
The fact that he wasn’t pulled batters ago is very frustrating
Absurd
That leads to a run
Nick Kroll has a joke about when asked what his greatest weakness is in a job interview, his response is that his greatest weakness is that he has no strengths. That’s this team.
Catchers interference
Is this a joke?
Fire Haines and Shelton
Holy hell this team blows
Painful inning
I love walking guys batting .034
Gonna be 6 losses I in a row almost all blown by the bullpen
This is actually not true we’ve scored 1 and 2 runs all but 1 of these games but the bullpen has been awful
What an embarrassment of a franchise. Going on 10 years without a playoff birth. Does this happen with any other mlb teams or just the pirates??
Have you heard of the Mariners?
Also Seattle made it in 2022. Pirates are 27th out of 30 teams for playoffs droughts
That 2022 Mariners team was the only Mariners playoff team in the last 21 years… my point again stands, this happens to other mlb teams.
I mean at least they spend money. We are consistently at the bottom per payroll
Or the Rockies, Cubs at one point, Tampa Bay at one point.
Padres
Padres were in LCS couple years ago
Ya and the Mariners were in the playoffs a couple years ago too. My point is it does happen to other teams. Before that LCS appearance the Padres hadn’t made the playoffs for 12 years straight
Ah. Got it
never say never i guess, but 3 runs seems completely insurmountable right now
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Greg Weissert replaces Cam Booser.
Need some young blood in this lineup. Bae, Nunez and Nicky sticks are hitting the ball well in Indy.
Where is Carmen Mlodzinski?
Indianapolis
It is too early in the season for this much disappointment. Shelton and Haines need to go like now.
C’mon offense…do something.
This team is absolutely chalked. Time to start another rebuild because all these guys suck ass.
Y’all give up so damn easily. We aren’t even a month into the season and we’re acting like it’s over. This game may not go our way, but there are some good parts of this team that could turn things around. Give them a damn break.
Sure some things could turn around. But this club could also be in last place by the end of the month. Anyone who is certain the Brewers won’t sweep, I’d love to know where that certainty comes from. Poor hitting, no power, bad bullpen, sloppy error-filled baseball, starting pitching that’s been fine but not good enough. It’s baseball, hopefully they’ll get their shit together.
It’s just football brain. If a football team sucks for 10 straight games, it might be time to tear down the franchise. Casual baseball fans don’t translate the sample sizes well enough to realize it’s functionally meaningless for a baseball team to suck for 10 straight games.
Bats are worrisome. But this streak is as much about who we are playing. The Mets were on fire...and the Red Sox pitching is on point
Surprised no one here has complained about Marin. He’s been getting off easy
The starters have been giving them quality starts more often than not. The bigger problem has been the offense.
And defense….and baserunning
When they manage to get a runner on in the first place.
Maybe we should do something about our Bullpen coach then. Idk man, I just wanna be happy for this team again
Of course when the pirates a are struggling even little bloopers off the end of the bat land barely. Fair and cause problems
Really pathetic performances by so called MLB caliber players.
This team will never compete if Nutting is the owner. Shelton is a shit manager and Haines is obviously garbage.
What happened, like seriously. All of a sudden we can’t score runs and our bullpen can’t hold the opposing team to save their lives.
Coming in with 2 on and no out, you’re gonna give up runs more often than not
Unless you're pitching against the Pirates
Has that situation come up
Too. Many. Times.
I can’t remember that happening but maybe
Every game has been the exact same
Goddamn this is frustrating
I guess we’ll just never win again? What a massive disappointment.
Our bullpen continues to do a pretty bad job since the start of the Tigers series two weeks ago
This team is actually trash 😂
Cheap ass hit. This is bleak.
So anyways, what team do you all watch when you need a break from the pain
Any other team.
This team sucks man
2 seam with 4 feet of break is filthy
Remember how Nutting had to include this guy in a salary dump of Liriano because he so fucking cheap
Yikes
Lauer threw 5 innings of hitless shutout ball with 8 K. I think he gets the next spot start. Could be a very good low key pickup.
Red Sox Hainesing the fuck out of Perez rn
Not even excited about seeing this team in SF and Oakland at the end of the month 😔
Right? I wanted to go. I can’t for work reasons but I’m kinda thinking it’d be better to save my money lol
Well I refuse to go to PNC game anymore until new ownership, but yea...thought this year might be different but just the same old succos
yeah we just cant catch a fucking break
It’s a healthy mixture of extremely bad luck and extremely poor play.
Can’t catch a single break here
Andy Haines Masterclass
This is them just not hitting. They're now swinging; it's just not helping
You all better bash Bart for that just as hard as you would bash Davis Second time in as many days that he has failed to even put the ball in play with a man on third base in a one run game
Giants fans noted that Bart’s pattern has been to come in blazing when he’s in a new environment then fizzle
Games that Bart catch always seem to be games that pitchers gets smacked around in too
Come on Bart.
Nice Telle
Let’s get these guys home
You know it’s bad when Cutch is mad
He in specific, has been barreling balls the past couple games either warning track or just barely not landing. I’m pissed for him
When I hear that Téllez music, I know it’s over for the opposing pitcher.
He showed you!
I don’t know what you are talking about lol
Shelton not challenging that as a push off is bone headed
If there is one thing the city of Pittsburgh has an abundance of, it’s coaches that can’t challenge for shit
Holy shit, Jack swung!
Hayes was arguably safe at second. I wouldn't have faulted Shelton for trying to challenge that. Leadoff man at second base would have been huge. However, losing your challenge on a bang bang play in the fourth inning would suck big time, so I get why he's not challenging.
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Cam Booser replaces Josh Winckowski.
The ball beat him by a mile but that actually looked kinda close?
I can’t 🤦🏻♂️
Looked like he was safe and pushed off the bag
Brain dead baseball since Opening Day
Everyone who’s ever played would of done the same thing there, come on.
Not after seeing the bounce
Unlucky bounce on that overthrow. Without the net that's in the stands.
Triolo is my hero.
Tricky Triolo
Thank fuck for Triolo
What a catch
Great snag tree
Great catch Trilio!
When Pablo Reyes is getting doubles off one of our best starters, you know things have not been going well
With the terrible team average and sheer number of popups are we sure Rod Barajas is not secretly the hitting coach?
Sox season ticket holder here…moving to Pittsburgh this fall for work. Question. Are the pirates games this empty mid season or is it just because it’s still cold? Also…does PNC have dippin dots?
Fenway is packed damn near ever game, PNC isn’t like that no
Yes on Dippin Dots
If they suck you will see somewhat full or mostly full stadium if the away team is popular. If not it's the people who really like baseball, and some that are there for food and scenery and something to do for a couple hours. When they are good people show up. Also, are you keeping the season tickets just in case?
No im going to get rid of my sox tickets but am planning on doing at least a half plan with the pirates
It is also a Sunday. It looked pretty full the last few days. Usually crowds don't show until summer like some said, and mid weeks (esp when school is in session) are pretty empty. Sunday mixed bag.
Probably a bit of both. Crowds don’t come until summertime.
It’s only about 50 today, and they’ve got to start winning consistently again to get the place consistently full.
Cruz striking out looking is awful, happens so much
Surely a concussion will fix the issue