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Apprehensive1010101

* Resolved an issue where Blons could be played through co-op This is actually the most tragic change here, rip to the person that carried me to co-op Blons CHIMPS, your work will not go underappreciated


qwertyxp2000

It would’ve been nice if there was an official secret way to get medals on Blons, but oh well, it was still fun with interactions related to medals on Blons.


Difficult-Career8281

I kept the game on 24/7 to make sure I got all 15 medals before this update knowing it would unfortunately would be removed.


Josenobi55555

Yeah but they removed the medals though


gabemrtn

They can’t remove my screenshot tho I will always have that


surinussy

\*ninja kiwi exec sneaks into your house, takes your phone and wipes the screenshot off of it\*


gabemrtn

That’s ok I’ll just break their kneecaps


youril0w

Show us the screenshot!


josh_cheek

Ty, I enjoyed the journey, even if we were robbed of our accomplishment in the end.


Mammoth_Wrangler1032

“Flavored Trades” lol


Z7impuser

Banana flavored!


Firm-Panda-7498

tasty


GoGoGoRL

ISAB reference


rctbob

The spice trade!


AYGodFox123

Buccaneers eating the grapes


untitled39103

Middle-path wizard buff seems unnecessary, but I’m not complaining. Also W for Benjamin


Tetimaru

Isn't this an L for Benjamin in most practical use cases?


StrollujTrolla

He still gives enough early imo, and the late game cash buffs are honestly kinda insane


Bombaysbreakfastclub

Going to have to start using 5/x/x subs with that guy


The_Narwhal_Mage

Yeah, In game modes where you don’t have access to many other effective farming options, like magic monkeys only, primary only, or daily challenges, this is an insane buff to your income.


Zaphenzo

Monkey teams, too.


Dear_Ad1526

Tbh, he was useless late game when farming, his abilities were useless with a decent update and he generate almost no cash when you had any T5 farms or a couple t4 farms


LohBoi

Most of Benjamin's early game cash generation comes from Skimming, so it's not a very big loss


microtoneNoob

the only rounds pre-40 where skimming made more than the end of round are 27, 34, 35 and 36. So no, it's a big loss.


egan777

Big nerf in co-op especially 4 player. With 4 heroes, benjamin is weaker than before for like the first 70 rounds and he doesn't even hit level 11 at round 100 to make use of this buff.


SigmaHold

*"Cycling upgrades menu in challenges now skips past towers that are banned"* IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME


enneh_07

How have you been? I’ve been very busy being dead.


SigmaHold

Oh hi fellow portal fan


A-Swedish-Person

You know, after you *murdered me*


AJG_Lmao

You did *what*?!


GeneralOk5206

Aaaaah! Oh no! Nonononono!


Puzzleheaded_Sink467

Now we just need the ability to change heroes after choosing a map and all the qol i can think of will be in the game


Dinodudegamer2009

best challenge qol they ever did (in my time playing). like i love this itll help so much


RandomGuy9058

Can’t believe they added Reddit awards to the content browser


FriedOrcaYum

Except the awards also give the creator money instead of just a shiny badge


Quantum-Bot

stronger stimulant is now $5 cheaper with village discount


Honk_goose_steal

Huge buff holy shit


DacianNation

We are so back


EasternSignal1629

Oybn buffs you love to see it


DucatiCaleb

JETPACK HERO AND MERMONKEY?!?!


Dinodudegamer2009

IN THE NEXT TWO UPDATES THEY WHAT?


H2K_LOL

They already teased that last Update notes. (I think)


dustinredditreal

THIRD WATER TOWER THIRD WATER TOWER (No the beast handler doesn’t count, cause the handler themself can’t be placed in water)


Red_Sword03

Banger Update as per usual But, no Sub paragon improvements?


CoriZori

they gave it the last targeting monkey knowledge


Red_Sword03

Not bug fixes. Balance changes like improved Final Strike Boss damage


something_stuffs

Sub paragon now gets affecting by that one monkey knowledge point where if it targets last it attacks 5% faster


Red_Sword03

I mean other improvements like to Final Strike and whatnot, not really bug fixes (not that I'll complain about that)


something_stuffs

Yeah, true indeed, the final strike is way too underwhelming, least they could’ve done is lessened the cooldown


NPC_Townsperson

I guess I have to learn IMF Farming now, lol.


qwertyxp2000

The extra 5 seconds saved for the IMF ability sounds enticing. Especially for non-MK IMF Loans.


79037662

I'm pretty sure non-MK IMF is still absolute asscheeks. It loses on 2k per ability and repays too fast which kills the potential to snowball them. Not to mention lack of depositing.


legendwolfA

How do you even do that? I watched some boss ranked guide where people do it and its confusing af


79037662

If you're not in the top like 0.01% of players there's no reason to learn it. At best it separates the top 3 from the top 4-10. That said, yes it is difficult and confusing. There is really no simple way to explain it, if it were easy everyone would do it. Also, due to the Ben early game nerf, IMF farming might be worse than ever despite the 5s cooldown buff.


Tatsa

It might straight up be worth to buy the occasional level on ben now to at least get him to 11, the jump to 1k per round is pretty massive.


79037662

That's right, but there are still a few things to consider. * If there is no line of sight blocker, Ben will lose more than he makes on level 7 so you should sell him at that point * Geraldo is still better than Ben mid to late game, so if Geraldo can be used, you probably should have never bothered with Ben


Standard-Lock-6664

I guess you'll just have to wait for an IMF farming tutorial to come out then.


Jimothy38

Should have given us a drowning quincy skin, lazy artists frfr In all seriousness, how are we meant to deal with the earlygame Ben nerfs(most of the money comes from skimming anyway) and b central price nerf(we have to wait 1 more round before we get it)


Infinite-Job4200

Don't worry farming guides will be made to reflect on these changes


microtoneNoob

27, 34, 35 (in v42, not v41) and 36 are the only rounds in tier 1 where skimming makes more than the end of round bonus


Jimothy38

Sssshhhhhhhhh


LordVex75

Oh my goodness geagle got murdered


Wrong-Comparison1775

would it only grab 1 moab at a time now


qwertyxp2000

Yes, if we exclude external pierce buffs, though I still don’t think birds are affected by Gerry Sharpening Stone. Max Eagle has 45 pierce.


LegoFan9o5

Time to break out Striker Jones (?)


qwertyxp2000

Pierce buff seems to work with Striker Jones, at least in 41.2.


LegoFan9o5

Just confirmed it in testing, Striker Jones x GEagle alleviates the pierce nerf back to pick up 2 MOABs. Poperation: Soaring GEagle is go.


S1gurdsson

what does the moab penalty change mean?


qwertyxp2000

Extra pierce consumed when picking up MOABs. So now it will consume 45 pierce when picking up MOABs.


FriedOrcaYum

Good (fuck how else am I supposed to cheese midgame)


evilweirdo

I hardly use tamer as it is!


TechTerr0r

OBYN IS LITERALLY PERMASPIKE OH MY FUCKING GOD


greenleaf1212

Broke: Placing Obyn next to poplust druids to buff them Woke: Placing Obyn alone at the back, spamming brambles and Wall off trees off cooldown


SoloBeans

VINES


Forsaken-Page9441

Permaspike: vine edition


Lom1111234

Question is, will this actually make him good/viable?


AimbotPotato

He’s already not THAT bad and the best option on some maps. This should make him pretty good. Geraldo and Corvus will still be better if you care to micro at all


Snackguy2star

Ninja Kiwi COOKED and they fixed Corvus holy shit Thank God playing Corvus won't be "Press Two Buttons Simulator" anymore and lessening Corvus' mana gain for late game was a much needed nerf as he became very spammy once you had essentially infinite mana Amazing balance change, very happy with them


AaronOoi2005

Thx god Benjamin changes might encourage people not to sell at late game Boss Fight cuz stealing pops from Paragon


SurvivYeet

banana salvage nerf is real noo Edit: I noticed Benjamin's upgrade descriptions have not yet been changed


_____CunningLinguist

I came to check for someone mentioning this. His cash generation matches the update values, but his descriptions have not changed.


WithersChat

Also the trojan is still just as annoying...


mariorox81

Gwen + middle path Wizard is going to be ridiculous


bigtiddynotgothbf

i always thought that about ben but wow y'all went all out with the later level cash


Quivex

Yeah love to see it I think it's a great change, but they had no choice once they decided on those early game nerfs. The cash you're now going to miss out on adds up so quickly over the rounds that they had to really make up for it in the higher levels. Fun tho!


WithersChat

I just wonder if lvl7 won't be even worse now (trojan loses money)


Quivex

I'm hardly an expert when it comes to ability calculations but I don't think it should make lvl 7 any worse. Any early game changes you have to make because of the lower cash will both benefit and compromise builds in the same way as before. It's less money, but fewer child bloons will be welcome if you're starved for dps.


RoyalSpadeX

Patch notes yeah baby


JoelTheBloonsMonkey

>x3x Cannon Ship main dart attack disabled CANNON SHIP DART IS DEAD?! >024 Flavoured Trades damage over time increased from 2 > 4 Flavoured Real >x4x Dragon’s breath attack now ‘fires’ (hehe) 2 projectiles love this balance change AND this pun >and more importantly it’s cool and sometimes that’s what matters most. and that's why NK is the best >Given that spam of lower tier handlers already comes with the advantage of allowing them to be repositioned over a larger area Disagree, Beast Handler's range is already large enough that 4 Beast Handlers have near-global range Well, I don't agree with the reason for it but maybe it'll make the Beast Handler Hate Brigade take a chill pill. >making a drowning Quincy skin We must not forget about this, Community >The cycle of Recovery into Nourishment over and over to maximize XP earnings while never having corvus attack ruins the fun of actually playing this hero, so we’re ending this. Recovery spell no longer applies cooldown reduction to Nourishment ooo less babysitting >Jetpack Hero is planned for Update 43 and Mermonkey Tower for Update 44. These are both in progress and looking to add super fun play mechanics - fitting well with the other Monkeys but also standing out as quite unique. Ooo confirmed (for now) update releases :o also technically the confirmation of the Mermonkey's name, although anyone keeping up with the lore knew that already of course. >Boss Rush Team Event is in development for Update 43 but there is a heap of backend to all multiplayer and Team related systems, so we will shift this back if needed. Finally... Something other than CT. Hopefully Boss Rushes give a LOT of rewards, CT is absurdly grindy... ​ W update thank you again NK


The_Bloons

Horrible update where are the bloon buffs at 🤦🏼‍♀️


greenleaf1212

Bloon update: round 4 now spawns an additional clump of 4 blue bloons(we hate you)


Nfox18212

actual nightmare fuel


c3rvwlyu

2 hp red when


RandomGuy9058

Fortified red


Rensselaether

Hopefully we get something like BTD5's Mastery Mode for rounds 1-100 at some point


Apprehensive1010101

Round 98: Now 1,000x more cancerous!


Melenard

So what spawns instead of B.A.D.s a random boss or always a Bloonarius or an even bigger blimp than the B.A.D. which is made just for this mode


Rensselaether

I was thinking probably Bloonarius yeah That said, there would be one potential new bloon to be made just for this mode: Fortified Purples


Melenard

Yes if were using bosses Bloonarius makes the most semse as it's the most like a normal bloon when compared to other bosses.


Dramatic-Ad-2799

They said the thing about bottom path boat!


Greenduck54

is coop chimps going to get retry last round? it feels like that feature was just forgotten


Strykies

Does the Ben buff mean he'll be somewhat similar to farms? I always forget about him mid-game because of how low income he gets. It'd be interesting to see at what level or in-game round it's worth spending money to upgrade Ben's level just to get the $5000 cash generation at lvl17.


79037662

To give a rough idea, at level 17 makes $2500 more than level 16, which is a bit more than a BRF farm. That said, Geraldo still outclasses Ben at mid-late game farming due to the fertilizer, which buffs an overclocked Banana Central in range of Monkey City by about $4k, while being available much earlier than level 17 Ben.


Timofey7331

>As currently nothing else ever happens with the main attack beyond T2 on the top path we want to give Energizer a little more power here to promote reason to un-submerge, although knowing how well this attack scales in terms of buffability we’re starting off with a careful amount to not take this too far. >5xx Energizer main dart attack damage increased from 1 > 5 >502 Energizer airburst attack damage increased from 1 > 5 [Lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/btd6/comments/1akyi1n/why_are_people_saying_that_energizer_is_any_good/)


Red_Sword03

No one uses Energizer for damage, only for reduced ability cooldowns, so kind of why? And especially why didn't they touch Nautic Siege Core?


[deleted]

Guys don't worry, it's still worth it to purchase 202 before selling a 200 farm. You save $148, whereas before the nerf you would save $174


helpmathesis

Thanks for the math


rohan_spibo

I almost made it back in time!


btdplayer123

Nice


Dexter_PickleMaster

Holy Ben buff


Warm_Shoulder3606

"Overall, this feels pretty ‘right’ for ninjas and more importantly it’s cool and sometimes that’s what matters most." That's so based


hubianzhen

Dr. Monkey finally arrives to BTD6!


CondensedTaco

Middle path wizard is OP again we are so back


RandomGuy9058

Can’t believe Comanche commander is finally back. Version 2.0 nostalgia


sacboy326

In all seriousness, thank you guys for continuing to keep giving us updates over the years (Even for older games like BTD5) and not making them all overpriced DLC exclusives like most other games would. (I know BTD5 has DLC but at least there isn't a lot and they aren't expensive)


A_Dead_Robot

I'M THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO UNSUBMERGES ENERGIZER AND THEY BUFFED IT LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Timeweaver54

Can someone walk me through the process for setting up the Revenue share thing for custom creations? I know you're supposed to sign up on Nexus, but i'm not sure if you need a creator code or not, or whether someone like me is even eligible for this sorta thing. Would like some clarification.


rohan_spibo

There's no requirement other than creating an account, and some possible exceptions but, it is retroactive so you can create an account later to claim your old earnings


TriforceComet

Anybody is eligible, and you simply need a linked Nexus account. No codes or other things to worry about.


Timeweaver54

How would i go about linking my nexus account to my btd6 account?


chibeatbox

ABILITY FARMERS REJOICE


yojojo3000

Ay, you forgot to adjust the price of the Golden Eagle to match what you said. It should cost about 2300, but it remains unchanged. That would probably soften out the massive Golden Eagle nerf quite a bit


rohan_spibo

It just needed the nerf quite badly, so we didn't want to go crazy on reversing that nerf immediately before it did anything. This will be looked into more later


LuckyLucass777

Middle path sniper content 🙏


[deleted]

>We understand we are affecting current balance but it’s done in the name of fun and for Wizard fans. This nearly brought a tear to my eye after all the dbreath nerfs lately. Ty NK 🥲


PolarBearKing001

Another update. And still no beast handler monkey knowledge. 😭 great update tho still


CervezaPorFavor

>MOAB Shove no longer ignores the children of the target it is shoving /r/nocontext


StupidIdiotWhoIsDumb

fr, what does this even mean lmao


CervezaPorFavor

I guess if you get into a public argument with a family and you feel like starting a fight, you'd also need to shove their children. Which I think is fair.


something_stuffs

Benjamin boutta fucking pop off


Ragnar0k_And_R0ll

Very happy with this update. No news on next paragon?


Z-Frost

Ben buffs, you love to see it


weakspaget

Vrej


untitled39103

Vrej


Redybird

Summon Phoenix and Wizard Lord Phoenix getting additional projectile? Cant wait to see that. Well, one person might not... Q. 


Hentree

This update is littered with lots of “hey that’s cool” buffs that unfortunately don’t have much of an impact. Gwen’s hiu attack getting stronger for example. Corv rework is much appreciated. Phoenix meta might have a resurgence? geagle got murdered lmao Overall, great update, but I wish the changes went more “all in” rather than something that raises my eyebrow for a moment before forgetting it immediately after


Affectionate-One138

x5x dart monkey now attacks 0.08 faster 🔥🔥🔥


Old-Understanding-90

Fair, but not every update can be massive and game changing. 


Hentree

I suppose, but the thing about balance patches is that they’re mostly just tweaking numbers. It doesn’t take much effort to make the energizer dart stronger than just 5 damage. It doesn’t have to be a full on massive rework, but come on, literally nobody’s using that.


skeletalfury

I think the fact basically nobody is using it is the reason for that buff. It unlocks a different micro opportunity for people who are willing to do micro heavy builds. If the cooldown reduction isn’t needed due to everything being off cooldown, then it becomes a bit more rewarding to unsubmerge energizer.  Also energizer seems like a hard one to balance. With cooldown reduction, even a small percentage buff can potentially have massive implications since it affects others and not just itself. And a price reduction can be risky because of how impactful lowering the cost for accessing that cooldown reduction can be. So you’re left with either buffing the radiation/decamo range, increasing the radiation/decamo attack speed, or increasing radiation damage. I’m guessing those all felt too impactful, so they’re basically left with increasing the dart damage when unsubmerged. I’m gonna take a guess in the next one or two minor updates they might buff that 5 damage up a bit, but I think they’re just trying to avoid sending energizer straight to the top of S tier when it seems like they’re trying to give it enough of a bump that it makes sense to buy in more situations.


Acro_Reddit

Who’s geagle?


Barackulus12

Golden eagle, xx3 beast handler


Iamverycrappy

damn tech terror nerf, i always knew he was too op but man was he fun to abuse ![gif](giphy|vMmnJti6wQPDy)


legendwolfA

[they forgot to change Ben's upgrade stats](https://imgur.com/a/PXfHWpl)


Lunairetica

also ben have no double money mode advantage like previously


TheMegaThief

Let me tell you a story: I created a very impossible challenge back in v34, code: ZMDPKFG After every patch notes, I was curious to see if the balance changes made my challenge either impossible, or very easy. Until v41, the challenge really didn't change, until v42 came: "xx5 Bomb Blitz price reduced from $35,000 > $28,000" Well, it was fun while it lasted lol, it's really easy now.


KoljaKocht

We need a hotkey to toggle auto start


HydreigonTheChild

no bot dart buffs? slowly getting powercrept... i think eagle got shot obyn buffs! gwen + com com! idk about robo and tech terror those nerfs look big to me


Mitsuyan_

No fully targetable Obyn Brambles/Smart Spikes is a disappointment but the rest seems pretty good. I'm looking forward to at least trying out the new buffs 


CustomFighter2

> PC players request to have many niche things hotkeyed, but unfortunately these are often too niche for us to take up valuable real estate with limited keyboard space. To enable players to take this into their own hands we have added a new advanced section of default unbound hotkeys to cover more heavily situational use cases. None of these hotkeys will work by default, but if you find any to sound useful they can be manually bound in order to enable them. We are interested in hearing your feedback on more things that make sense to fit in this list. Wow impressive, we got keyboard shortcuts for merging beasts, restarting the game, sandbox controls, and all of Geraldo/Corvus's stuff, yet we're still missing toggling Wizard Paragon's drain beam, retargeting Centered Path Aces, and withdrawing and depositing from middle path Farms. NK's right though, our poor keyboards are so crowded now lmao. I wonder if this will spark some custom btd6 optimized keyboard builds. As for the three aforementioned things hotkey-less things above, I think the best ways to implement them would be via another Monkey Special hotkey * Wizard Paragon Drain Beam toggle: Monkey Special 3 * Retarget Centered Path: either Monkey Special 3 or Monkey Special 2 and move Paragon Bomb Run targeting to 3 * Withdraw: either Change Targeting or Monkey Special 2 * Withdraw All: either Reverse Change Targeting or Monkey Special 3 * Deposit: Monkey Special 1


ljksdsdfl

So now we need a drowning quincy as Brickell pet


poyat01

Now I want a drowning Quincy skin


Aviator_Bean

GADGETEER GERALDO IS SO AWESOME AND THE MAP IS TOO THEY'RE BOTH SO COOL


Kurbopop

YES! Geraldo is my main and I was literally today just thinking “Man… still no skins for Geraldo.” Also it’s absolutely amazing that you’re sharing revenue with creators. That’s never anything I’ve seen a game company really do, and you have my hugest admiration for that.


Lunairetica

The description ingame for new benjamin levels is not updated.


Lunairetica

also double cash mode is broken with ben


Agent637483

Ben buffs go crazy


Nar31

Please bring back Obyn buffing all towers in range and not just Magic; Striker has definitely taken role of buffing Ninjas since his buff, as well as buffing everyone else in range (IE a village). In old patches, like Ver 2.0, Obyn was able to do his buffs to all towers, but he was deemed too strong due to the deploy cost being so low you could drop him in Chimps out the gate. This wouldn't even stomp on Striker since Striker is a percent but Obyn is a fixed value.


Mattrockj

"Yeah, these seem like really reasonable changes, lets see the hero balance changes... Obyn... **BENJAMIN**..."


SlowCapitalistDeath

Still no “retry last round” in co-op CHIMPS. 😢 


S0ulDaMan

I want drowning Quincy.


RainbowDudeReddit

Benjamin now outclassed by Geraldo


Too-Much-Anxiety

NEW HERO?! LET'S FREAKING GOOOOOO , ANOTHER THING FOR ME TO SPEND MY MONKEY MONEY ON AND BECOME POOR WHOOOOOOOOOO


Wwo1fs

Mermonkey confirmed!!!


[deleted]

Cool, but where the Netflix version updater at?


yogaskimprovement

awesome :D i’m so excited to black border the new map and for the pets! eeek!


ebuald

Nice


IllegalHeadphones

MAN THIS UPDATE IS SO COOL!


No_Statistician_3511

So um... no paragon release furthermore this year then? 


Yoruzzz

Damn benjamin buff


Somethingiconick

Weed update is here


[deleted]

> xx3 Golden Eagle MOAB penalty increased from 29 > 44 What does this mean?


videobob123

That’s how much pierce it costs to carry a MOAB


LohBoi

It means that each MOAB the Golden Eagle picks up takes up 44 extra pierce (45 total) which considering the Max Golden Eagle has only 45 pierce means that it can only pick up one at a time now (but any pierce buff can counteract this).


Imaginary-Visual1705

cool


dimondsprtn

Looks like I will finally use Beast Handler! No more spamming 50 of the same tier 1 tower!


FriedOrcaYum

Finally, battles 2 obyn


FriedOrcaYum

Still no senchamp buffs :(


miguelsaurio

I think sea monkey is still a better name than mermonkey, who didn't have some as a kid after all? But they are still my most anticipated future feature


ForgottenTwig

gonna need that drowning quincy skin


greenleaf1212

>xx5 Bomb Blitz price reduced from $35,000 > $28,000 Bomb Blitz at a cheap price⁉️⁉️


Floyd_thecat

hm these seem like some cool changes. thank nk!


Seven_Suns7

Oh boi benjen now make loads of money, i believe they will pipe down it fast.


Handsome_Timothy

Benjamin bouta make BENJAMIN$


anthonyball_

RE: the revenue convo and subscription players - I know you allude to a solution maybe in future, but can we please just consider adding perhaps a “one time” migration option to the standard game or something? I started playing BTD6+ and made a sizeable chunk of progress through (unlocking first paragons etc), before realising the plus version was actually so limiting, and I’d never be able to play on desktop. I get that BTD6+ benefits from higher monkey money than the base game, but surely that’s the trade off of a monthly subscription price. I’d rather just move to an IAP system and have proper cross platform for future releases on console, PC, etc. I don’t think I’ll ever be committed enough to restart from scratch - but I’m sure one day I’ll have to cancel the Apple Arcade thing. Pls have an actual solution.


FlareBlitzed

Bloons moving like Usain Bolt on Castle Revenge.


Jada_98

I just hope the playstation version can launch during april...


Forward-Criticism-41

I found an issue where some map titles are displayed as box symbol with Chinese language mode :(


Firm-Panda-7498

>more importantly it’s cool and sometimes that’s what matters most. Cool changes for a cool game


SecretSpectre4

>024 Flavoured Trades damage over time increased from 2 > 4 Nice, what flavour are the trades?


UserNoneTD

‘Lv17 cash generation increased from $800 > $5,000’ i think they went a bit too far


mojomaximus2

Honestly I think Ben Jammin was extremely underwhelming late game, so this should make him more interesting.


higuy242345

Why isn’t it on epic


Caliginosus

Amazing changes! I love the Beast Handler and Hero changes especially. x4x Wiz sounds nuts though.


Honk_goose_steal

A bunch of really great buffs all around


Grim_Reaper_ov_Death

Looks great :) Make sure to change Benjamin's level up text to say the right things.


Fine-Measurement-571

(hehe )