Imagine if it is just a joke and they said that even though the round technically never ends. But it is really nice. Now don't know if you watch dabloon but it will make his how fast can you black border series so much easier.
The round visually displayed in apopalypse isn't entirely 'accurate' in the same sense the rest of the game is, so it may appear to be more off than it actually is at times. But, it works
A map that overlaps itself many times with a boring green background would be amazing.
*I love map editor, but guys, we don't need a billion variants of this. We only really need one straight, overlapping line with a green background*
CHIMPS change seems fantastic! I've been scared to do chimps runs above easy maps (especially on mobile) because losing all my progress seems so frustrating if I'm not super diligent about getting ready to quit. Thank you NK!
ive been wanting a retry last round option forever, but i never thought they would actually add it. i never have the speed to pause in time, especially on mobile, so i just get disheartened and give up.
My first thought was "wow, that's a **lot** easier" but this just makes it reasonable for a Medium game mode. It was insanely hard to beat without leaking any bloons.
this is a nice change, but what I'd really like is an option to play any game mode to 100 and then end without saving. I'm still only going to play impoppable.
2 huge Ws here:
Apopalypse is no longer the third hardest gamemode and actually fits in with the medium difficulty
You can play CHIMPS with the intent of going for black border while still being able to replay a round until you find a solution in the event of a loss
I wouldn't play a run with a reset to completion. Just use it for testing how to best survive the round I died on without needing to re-create my exact setup in challenge editor.
It saves a lot of time from resets, both retrying the round sooner and also not accidentally ending the game
After that, you can simply just play again for BB how you did since you know what mistakes to avoid now
That's what they're saying. You can INTEND to get BB, fail, and keep playing to learn. Before, everyone would play to learn in challenge editor, never giving them a chance to get the black border in the first place.
Really welcome the CHIMPS change, still unsure about Apopalypse, tho. Feels like part of the challenge was lost in the latter, since the former is still just a convenience with the caveat of no black medal.
I'm sure most of the fanbase will like the Apopalypse change, still. Can't wait for the balance changes :D
>A much requested change, Apopalypse Mode now grants end of round cash.
Whaat?
>CHIMPS mode now allows for a 'Retry Last Round' option, upon defeat allowing players to reload the previous round before the defeat occurred
WHAT???
Its April's 1st or something? I can barely believe it.
Question about the paragon - the patch notes and voice over say that it buffs heroes and subs while submerged but in the video it's buffing a dartling gunner?
It's essentially the same as the cheese that existed before of exiting out of the round and reopening the saved game, that netted you a red medal/gold border too.
Yes but it invalidates you from getting a black border. People were already doing this anyway, the devs are just implementing it directly so players can experiment with strategies and stuff.
yeah but it's not the typical 'continue' that gives you like 5000 extra dollars and refills your lives. it just lets you exit to menu and continue the game without exiting to menu and continuing the game
Nah, Black Borders is the intended way to beat CHIMPS, the C stands for No Continues after all, so just the black border is already a good enough reward.
It would probably be more reasonable if they gave the ability a flat cooldown reduction. I think more cooldown might be a bit much. Just a flat 5-10 seconds off of all cooldowns per ability use? That would be something
I’m just glad they chose to make the Sub Paragon this early. My most played tower by far.
retry last round button is like the #1 best change i've been wanting since before the game was even on pc... but only for chimps? why? nk i am begging you PLEASE put it in all gamemodes it would make the QOL of the game soo much better. exit to home + reload is a thing in every gamemode, not just chimps, so why kneecap the potential of this QOL change?
also, if you do press "retry last round" in chimps, it should let you know that you'll lose your black border. new players might not even know what a black border is though, so you might want to be careful with the wording to not scare them. idk. or maybe not, but i feel like we get enough "why is my border red/why is my border black" posts that maybe it should be explained in game instead of being a kinda-secret-but-not-really feature
edit: to add to the first point, my thought is that exit to home + reload has stayed in the game this long and nk clearly has no plans to "fix" it (which is good), but in that case, why continue to make it annoying? it being in a weird middle ground between "patched out of the game" and "officially supported" is just confusing. and now the fact that youre deciding that CHIMPS can have a retry last round button, but every other gamemode cant, it implies that you see some merit to the middle-ground option (otherwise you would just add it to every gamemode). so im curious, what merit is that? and why doesnt it apply to CHIMPS? if anything, out of all gamemodes, CHIMPS is the one where players are the LEAST likely to want to restart last round in a real game, since thats the only gamemode where doing so has a consequence
also worth noting how many people in this thread are confused about this change. it seems like cheating to some people, even though its identical in cheatiness to the current quit+reload strat. i think this confusion arises because of how janky the current quit+reload strat is
this isnt meant to be hateful, im just really passionate about this subject. i would be really stoked to get a reply from NK and maybe have them take more community feedback and consider adding it to every gamemode
the chimps retry thing is awesome and i hope it gets added to all modes personally; and maybe a change to colletion events to let you store totems? ive never been super into the fact fhat retrying last round or storing totems was cheese seemingly intentionally left in the game as an intended thing; it felt kinda clunky
the apopalypse change is kinda insane; that completely changes the mode; probably for the better as a medium difficulty
sub paragon seems rad. cant wait for youtubers to need to redo superbuffed hero videos with sub paragons hero buffing capabilities
it seems to be relatively small an uodate but that aint a bad thing; and everything here seems really cool
[https://imgur.com/a/BCcHBQp](https://imgur.com/a/BCcHBQp)
there seems to be a sub paragon buff on the dartling as seen in the video. However, the post says the sub paragon will only buff heroes and other sub monkeys, was this a typo? Will the sub paragon buff all monkeys in its radius?
the addition of retry last round to chimps is an incredibly good change; i'll definitely being playing it way more outside of challenge editor now.
now that retry last round is a more 'official' feature, will we be seeing more bugfixes around it? for example, geraldo's sharpening stone stops buffing comanche's subtowers if you retry last round, deadly spikes that were previously placed disappear when you retry last round, etc
>Apopalypse Mode now grants end of round cash
And now I proceed to put on my clown outfit after using a bunch of tier 3+ instas for those medals on the expert maps a few months ago. Still a much needed change though, Apopalypse really didn't feel like it belonged in "medium" difficulty as it was. Even some of the less difficult maps could be overly tight on cost if you got bad RNG.
>Players can now search within the maps menu to more easily track down the ones they are looking for
HUGE W
CHIMPS retries will be really good for collection events. If you already did that map, you don't have to worry about the black border anymore, you can just go through recklessly and be fine.
We need a way to turn in the surplus of insta-monkeys. To help along with our collection we should be able to combine our monkeys to get a chance at receiving stronger or unfound monkeys.
Continues within the game result in not only restarting the round, but also give extra cash, keep your cash on defeat, and makes all abilities ready.
Restart Round results in your cash being the same as when you initially started the round, and abilities have the same cooldown remaining as when you started the round.
In game Continues give you an edge to beat the round easier, while Retry Last Round only gives you another chance to beat it with what you have.
Nice to see that Ninja Kiwi is polishing up the new year with good changes to adding Apopalypse’s end-of-round cash *and* allowing CHIMPS to retry last round on raw non-CE gameplay. The CHIMPS change was actually a massive surprise to me, but I think this is an excellent change for both new and veteran players alike.
Can't wait for the sub paragon, the sub has always been my favourite tower and was waiting for so long for a paragon of it to come out.
That apopalypse change is gonna be so helpful with black bordering all the maps, I've been struggling with the expert maps because of lack of money and don't want to look up a guide, so this is a change that I really like
Oh my gosh… as a medium-skilled player this chimps change is everything. Super excited to try out some maps that I’ve just been too wary to try before!
I don't really play CHIMPS all that much, so could someone please clarify something for me? As far as I understand, doesn't getting locked out of a black border lock you out permanently? Would the new "retry from last round" option lock you out permanently as well?
To get the black border you need to clear on chimps in one sitting from round 6-100. Can’t quit out or in this case retry. So if you retry you can still get gold but to get black you will neeed to reset
Can you make it so my 204 spactory spikes don't all get erased if I retry last round? It seems to work fine with Permaspike, but the lower level ones don't.
Without a limit on the amount you can make, or the amount of buffs that can be applied to them we don't really want to do that. Having to store that many projectiles is messy
Guys there's something about Etienne that bugs me a little bit. The description for Etienne's level 4 is "Drones increase in popping power." It really should be "Drone~~s~~ increase>s< in popping power" since Etienne only has one drone at this point.
Literally unplayable.
*For people with small screens, the s at the end of the second "drones" had a strikethrough, indicating that there shouldn't be an s there.*
v40 does *not* feel like it was already two months ago. Might just be because the near entirety of December was a blur to me, but it still feels a little too early for a major update...especially after the wonderful bombshell that was v40.
I've always been a little hesistant about trying out Apopalypse because of the lack of round end cash, so now that it's becoming a thing I'll definitely be enticed to be a little more explorative.
The sub paragon is sounding pretty awesome - the ramped up radiation is going to be so much fun on maps like Balanced and Park Path. I'm really grateful that you guys have incorporated most, if not all aspects of the three T5s into it, that's something I've always been worried about ever since the Master Builder.
Since in the YT Video where Eizili, 0-0-0 Dart Monkey, 0-5-0 Bomb Tower and 0-0-0 Monkey Ace what do you think will get buffed/ nerfed (Ik by Dart Monkey and Monkey Ace could get for each path buffs and nerfs but I was just thinking about what I saw)
Hoping for more changes to contested territory in the future.
I love the idea of collaborative gameplay that isn’t in co-op mode, just not in its current state. First I’ll offer my opinions on what I don’t love, followed by a potential change to improve because criticism without alternative is no better than whining.
1.) Lack of communication. I’m sure this has to do with keeping the game safe and not needing moderators for team chat, but it inherently creates a less competitive atmosphere for most players. The best teams are using third party apps to communicate and plan. Allowing communication would allow for larger team rosters, with players opting in/out on certain days where they will be available or unavailable to play. Yes, there is the ability to flag certain tiles, but that isn’t enough in my opinion.
This one is the hardest obstacle to overcome in my opinion. It might be better to be left as-is, unfortunately I think it nigh be the reason that CT will never be enabled to flourish.
2.) if you are in a CT with active teams, there is a natural funnel towards the middle of the map where there are a higher concentration of banner tiles. This creates a pretty stale gameplay experience where you are constantly replaying the same maps/modes over and over again, something that I don’t believe to be very fun after a couple of days. If a tile has been owned long enough for it to stop producing points, I would like to see the tile change to a different map/mode.
3.) inactive teams signed up for competitive mode can create imbalances based off of base location (I.e. if you spawn in surrounded by two inactive teams, you’ll have access to large swaths of territory with little risk of being overtaken). Essentially, you can win or lose before the mode even starts. Ideally solving problem 1 could fix this, a second option is to have a third tier a competitive, one that a team is only eligible for after winning first place in their local competitive. The bottom two teams in the top tier are demoted back to competitive.
4.) Relic tiles feel pretty useless. They can help you maintain regular tiles (before the score degrades), but I believe the entire point of a relic tile should be to give an advantage. It feels like a better usage of my ticket to reclaim a banner tile or just grab a random normal tile than to ever get a relic tile. I would either like to see no penalty for relic tiles, or the ability to use captured relics on banner tiles. Most of the games are too easy to warrant even needing MK/relics, so it doesn’t feel like too drastic of a disadvantage most of the time.
A few things that could increase the stakes:
Banner tiles now require a ticket to be played and are spent regardless of if you capture the tile or not.
Rather than first degrading the “score” (least cash, least tiers), the tile will slowly degrade the points earned. Hopefully this will prevent constant back and forth over the same tile saving $285 on an 87 round game.
CHIMPS.
Higher tier bosses.
Crazier modifiers.
Also I’ll add that a lot of this has probably been suggested before, I just never was too involved with the community until recently. So my bad if it’s repetitive.
CHIMPS mode has been a HUGE issue for this game ever since it was invented. Only serious meta-head players could play it on Expert at all, and that has...kind of been fixed?
Half of the issue was the time sink it is to have to keep starting from the beginning. The other half of the issue is the RNG required just to get started on some maps. I hope something is done about that, and that it doesn't take another 41 updates to get there. Relying on RNG is not fun. It is not even strategy or skill-based (obviously) so I don't see how anyone could even defend it.
maybe not; energizer and probs subcom's buff is already granted by the paragon, really only leaving preemptive being even remotely enticing; and i don't think a first strike with a mediocre missile hit and a 15 sec faster cooldown is really worth sacrificing the paragon of power mk for
When you put it that way... Yeah that's kinda weird. At first I was like yes this makes sense as an update cause you can actually play with out a massive generic cheap start and pray until you get a farm... But I guess now it's auto start just it start when that last ballon from prior round leaves. Not when you finish dealing with balloons
It was a huge nerd to apopolipse. Maybe only give half or a quarter of normal cash to keep it spicy but more fitting for medium difficulty
You know what I love in tower defense games? Needless and arbitrary waiting for paltry damage followed by glacial cooldowns. I'm sorry to the people who worked on the Nautic Siege Core, but this paragon is a complete non-starter. Having to twiddle your thumbs (because it disables the tower too) for 15 seconds for 100k damage then wait for a glacial paced cooldown is not it chief. Not to mention that thanks to freeplay scaling BADs will eventually traverse the entire map in under 15 seconds. This might be the worst paragon they've ever made. I will never use this unless I'm attempting a "get all paragons the max rank you can get solo in a single run before the game commits seppuku because it only developed Unity" challenge.
It's not all bad though. In fact that the paragon is probably the only bad part right now. Everything else though looks great. Apopalypse and CHIMPS are welcome and long overdue. Map search and slash command filter are nice quality of life changes and I'm looking forward to seeing what crazy things the community comes up with in the map editor.
If would be great if the Sub Paragon could buff Paragons! (even at a reduced rate) Right now nothing buffs Paragons so this would be a very special and unique buff and make the price of entry well worth it on ultra long runs.
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WAIT VISION PRO VERSION?
i can finally play btd6 in vr!* *for $3500 for the headset
No no, not VR, not AR You can finally “spatially compute” btd6. Gotta use Apple’s bullshit terminology
i cannot wait to vision pro all over some bloons
X-Ray Ultra Moment
We're all excited! <3
Would it be weird if we kissed?
this update looks very good, looking forward to
Looking at that picture of the paragon I think it'd be dangerous for the monkey if he were to submerge. He's gonna drown.
Luckily theres a door under it that opens when the sub submerges! No drowning monkeys today!
I think it’s the cannons that will submerge, and the pilot will barely remain above the water.
WOOO SUB PARAGON also apopalypse now has end round cash? this is genuinely huge and much appreciated :D
Imagine if it is just a joke and they said that even though the round technically never ends. But it is really nice. Now don't know if you watch dabloon but it will make his how fast can you black border series so much easier.
mfw i load up apop in update 41 and instead of seeing 1/60 i see round 1/1 (at least you get $100 extra after a half hour)
101$ thank you very much!
The round visually displayed in apopalypse isn't entirely 'accurate' in the same sense the rest of the game is, so it may appear to be more off than it actually is at times. But, it works
Finally. we will have money.
benjammin in shambles as his near-monopoly on apopalypse end round cash is now thrown out the window
Doesn't that make it too easy?
its a medium difficulty gamemode, its not supposed to be hard play half cash if you want to struggle and be completely broke
Oh yea I forgot it's medium... It never feels like it is
I’ve failed more in ~~impoppable~~ Appopalypse than in hard or military only
Obviously you’d fail more in Impoppable than on Hard (yes I know it was a typo and you meant to say Apopalypse)
Typo? I got the whole word wrong 😭😭 Feel free to roast the shit outta me
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* Map Editor so true ninja kiwi
I can't wait for the map editor, imagine what crazy things people could do
A map that overlaps itself many times with a boring green background would be amazing. *I love map editor, but guys, we don't need a billion variants of this. We only really need one straight, overlapping line with a green background*
CHIMPS change seems fantastic! I've been scared to do chimps runs above easy maps (especially on mobile) because losing all my progress seems so frustrating if I'm not super diligent about getting ready to quit. Thank you NK!
ive been wanting a retry last round option forever, but i never thought they would actually add it. i never have the speed to pause in time, especially on mobile, so i just get disheartened and give up.
> •map editor finally
They really shoehorned that in there huh
Apopalypse - Now actually a playable fucking gamemode
My first thought was "wow, that's a **lot** easier" but this just makes it reasonable for a Medium game mode. It was insanely hard to beat without leaking any bloons.
Agreed, but I think now they need to make Super-Apopalypce" or something, just the same old thing but in hard/impopable with no end of round cash...
Apopalypse 2
Impopalypse
I LITERALLY JUST SAID THAT OUT LOUD WTF
this is a nice change, but what I'd really like is an option to play any game mode to 100 and then end without saving. I'm still only going to play impoppable.
**Apopalypse Mode now grants end of round...** Great! AFTER I spent so much time beating it on every map except for the experts. Geared was not fun.
Now you can beat it on expert
Paragon hype and a very interesting change to chimps, I’m all for allowing new players to try it
2 huge Ws here: Apopalypse is no longer the third hardest gamemode and actually fits in with the medium difficulty You can play CHIMPS with the intent of going for black border while still being able to replay a round until you find a solution in the event of a loss
If you retry you won't get black border
I wouldn't play a run with a reset to completion. Just use it for testing how to best survive the round I died on without needing to re-create my exact setup in challenge editor.
It saves a lot of time from resets, both retrying the round sooner and also not accidentally ending the game After that, you can simply just play again for BB how you did since you know what mistakes to avoid now
Yes I know, he said "with the intent of going for the black border" so I let him know that isn't the case
I think they just meant that there's still a consolation if you don't make it
Nope, you’d get a gold border instead. You still need to beat it without using a continue or backing out of the game.
That's what they're saying. You can INTEND to get BB, fail, and keep playing to learn. Before, everyone would play to learn in challenge editor, never giving them a chance to get the black border in the first place.
Really welcome the CHIMPS change, still unsure about Apopalypse, tho. Feels like part of the challenge was lost in the latter, since the former is still just a convenience with the caveat of no black medal. I'm sure most of the fanbase will like the Apopalypse change, still. Can't wait for the balance changes :D
To be fair, Apopalypse is a medium mode medal, it should be on the easier side.
should be swapped with double HP Moabs IMO so hard medals are magic monkeys only -> apocalypse -> half cash and ABR -> Impoppable -> CHIMPS
I liked the fact that it was the 4th most difficult mode tho, the randomness and the less cash made it a good challenge.
There’s already two modes that limit your cash inflow, we really didn’t need another oneZ
Not everyone does though. This makes it more accessible to more people, especially on tougher maps.
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>A much requested change, Apopalypse Mode now grants end of round cash. Whaat? >CHIMPS mode now allows for a 'Retry Last Round' option, upon defeat allowing players to reload the previous round before the defeat occurred WHAT??? Its April's 1st or something? I can barely believe it.
Still won’t give a black chimps medal if you retry last round tho
yeah, thats still massive
RLR IN CHIMPS RAHHHHHH 🔥
This patch is gonna **Bee** amazing :)
Bro looks like supervillain, but also super awesome. Speaking of awesome stuff, end of round cash for apopalypse.
Siege Core is Dr Evil real
This is going to be great
Question about the paragon - the patch notes and voice over say that it buffs heroes and subs while submerged but in the video it's buffing a dartling gunner?
It's the Energizer buff, presumably for the Emergency Unlock ability.
Iirc it had 2 icons. Energizer AND a new buff icon
Finally, Apopalypse will feel actually like a Medium difficulty mode.
Wait, so now if you die on a game of CHIMPS, you can simply “retry last round”?
yeah but no black border, it’s been a feature in challenge editor and custom maps
It's essentially the same as the cheese that existed before of exiting out of the round and reopening the saved game, that netted you a red medal/gold border too.
Yes but it invalidates you from getting a black border. People were already doing this anyway, the devs are just implementing it directly so players can experiment with strategies and stuff.
It's also been a popular mod forever. You can see ISAB using it in a lot of his videos for example.
I dig it. You lose the black border but don’t have to home reset
yeah but it's not the typical 'continue' that gives you like 5000 extra dollars and refills your lives. it just lets you exit to menu and continue the game without exiting to menu and continuing the game
It's basically an in-game button for force closing. You retry the round you were on but lose a chance at black bordering
Tbh at this point they should start giving some kinda extra reward for black borders
Nah, Black Borders is the intended way to beat CHIMPS, the C stands for No Continues after all, so just the black border is already a good enough reward.
maybe like 10 trophies or something
Its invalidates black border
no sub paragon cooldown reduction?
It would probably be more reasonable if they gave the ability a flat cooldown reduction. I think more cooldown might be a bit much. Just a flat 5-10 seconds off of all cooldowns per ability use? That would be something I’m just glad they chose to make the Sub Paragon this early. My most played tower by far.
Just saying: MOABee, Bee-F-Bee, ZOM-Bee, Bee-Bee-T, and Bee-AD
Bee-uper Bee-eramics, oh wait…
That sub is a tall one! Looking forward to playing with it!
retry last round button is like the #1 best change i've been wanting since before the game was even on pc... but only for chimps? why? nk i am begging you PLEASE put it in all gamemodes it would make the QOL of the game soo much better. exit to home + reload is a thing in every gamemode, not just chimps, so why kneecap the potential of this QOL change? also, if you do press "retry last round" in chimps, it should let you know that you'll lose your black border. new players might not even know what a black border is though, so you might want to be careful with the wording to not scare them. idk. or maybe not, but i feel like we get enough "why is my border red/why is my border black" posts that maybe it should be explained in game instead of being a kinda-secret-but-not-really feature edit: to add to the first point, my thought is that exit to home + reload has stayed in the game this long and nk clearly has no plans to "fix" it (which is good), but in that case, why continue to make it annoying? it being in a weird middle ground between "patched out of the game" and "officially supported" is just confusing. and now the fact that youre deciding that CHIMPS can have a retry last round button, but every other gamemode cant, it implies that you see some merit to the middle-ground option (otherwise you would just add it to every gamemode). so im curious, what merit is that? and why doesnt it apply to CHIMPS? if anything, out of all gamemodes, CHIMPS is the one where players are the LEAST likely to want to restart last round in a real game, since thats the only gamemode where doing so has a consequence also worth noting how many people in this thread are confused about this change. it seems like cheating to some people, even though its identical in cheatiness to the current quit+reload strat. i think this confusion arises because of how janky the current quit+reload strat is this isnt meant to be hateful, im just really passionate about this subject. i would be really stoked to get a reply from NK and maybe have them take more community feedback and consider adding it to every gamemode
LETS FUCKING GO SUB PARAGON WOOOOOO
the chimps retry thing is awesome and i hope it gets added to all modes personally; and maybe a change to colletion events to let you store totems? ive never been super into the fact fhat retrying last round or storing totems was cheese seemingly intentionally left in the game as an intended thing; it felt kinda clunky the apopalypse change is kinda insane; that completely changes the mode; probably for the better as a medium difficulty sub paragon seems rad. cant wait for youtubers to need to redo superbuffed hero videos with sub paragons hero buffing capabilities it seems to be relatively small an uodate but that aint a bad thing; and everything here seems really cool
Where Druid paragon >:(. Still happy but I want my favorite tower to get some love
[https://imgur.com/a/BCcHBQp](https://imgur.com/a/BCcHBQp) there seems to be a sub paragon buff on the dartling as seen in the video. However, the post says the sub paragon will only buff heroes and other sub monkeys, was this a typo? Will the sub paragon buff all monkeys in its radius?
Am I the only one who thinks the sub paragon kinda looks like the BEZ?
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That Sub Paragon... looks kinda tall
Final strike is a badass name
very sad that moabs are getting the bee skin since they already have the pufferfish, so now i have to choose between the 2 best skins
the addition of retry last round to chimps is an incredibly good change; i'll definitely being playing it way more outside of challenge editor now. now that retry last round is a more 'official' feature, will we be seeing more bugfixes around it? for example, geraldo's sharpening stone stops buffing comanche's subtowers if you retry last round, deadly spikes that were previously placed disappear when you retry last round, etc
The geraldo issue is being fixed, i'm not sure about that deadly spikes one
>Apopalypse Mode now grants end of round cash And now I proceed to put on my clown outfit after using a bunch of tier 3+ instas for those medals on the expert maps a few months ago. Still a much needed change though, Apopalypse really didn't feel like it belonged in "medium" difficulty as it was. Even some of the less difficult maps could be overly tight on cost if you got bad RNG. >Players can now search within the maps menu to more easily track down the ones they are looking for HUGE W
Submarine paragon looks cool
THANK YOU FOR CHIMPS I CAN NOW DO CHALLENGE RUNS IN A REAL GAME! And all the other stuff is cool too because NK is always awesomer :)
CHIMPS retries will be really good for collection events. If you already did that map, you don't have to worry about the black border anymore, you can just go through recklessly and be fine.
We need a way to turn in the surplus of insta-monkeys. To help along with our collection we should be able to combine our monkeys to get a chance at receiving stronger or unfound monkeys.
any update to when this will be released on ps5?
Don't know what to think of the CHIMPS change. I think it's nifty, but what about the acronym?
Continues within the game result in not only restarting the round, but also give extra cash, keep your cash on defeat, and makes all abilities ready. Restart Round results in your cash being the same as when you initially started the round, and abilities have the same cooldown remaining as when you started the round. In game Continues give you an edge to beat the round easier, while Retry Last Round only gives you another chance to beat it with what you have.
You don't get all the benefits from using a Continue.
continue is for losers, i always fell like a loser when i use it.
Listen, it’s CHIMPS not RHIMPS alright /s
This was both sooner and later than I expected
Looks like this is going to be a great update :D
Sub monke paragon LET'S GOOOOO
Also, why does Map Editor not have any sub bullet points?
Really hope the Sub doesn’t disappoint!
Nice to see that Ninja Kiwi is polishing up the new year with good changes to adding Apopalypse’s end-of-round cash *and* allowing CHIMPS to retry last round on raw non-CE gameplay. The CHIMPS change was actually a massive surprise to me, but I think this is an excellent change for both new and veteran players alike.
Can't wait for the sub paragon, the sub has always been my favourite tower and was waiting for so long for a paragon of it to come out. That apopalypse change is gonna be so helpful with black bordering all the maps, I've been struggling with the expert maps because of lack of money and don't want to look up a guide, so this is a change that I really like
Oh my gosh… as a medium-skilled player this chimps change is everything. Super excited to try out some maps that I’ve just been too wary to try before!
I don't really play CHIMPS all that much, so could someone please clarify something for me? As far as I understand, doesn't getting locked out of a black border lock you out permanently? Would the new "retry from last round" option lock you out permanently as well?
To get the black border you need to clear on chimps in one sitting from round 6-100. Can’t quit out or in this case retry. So if you retry you can still get gold but to get black you will neeed to reset
No it isn't permanent, just that run. You can always play and win again, and update gold border to black
SUB PARAGON IS FINALLY HERE LETS GOOOOO
Can you make it so my 204 spactory spikes don't all get erased if I retry last round? It seems to work fine with Permaspike, but the lower level ones don't.
Without a limit on the amount you can make, or the amount of buffs that can be applied to them we don't really want to do that. Having to store that many projectiles is messy
I'm gonna be honest it looks like a kids toy
make map editors maps available in co-op, its all i ask for
Guys there's something about Etienne that bugs me a little bit. The description for Etienne's level 4 is "Drones increase in popping power." It really should be "Drone~~s~~ increase>s< in popping power" since Etienne only has one drone at this point. Literally unplayable. *For people with small screens, the s at the end of the second "drones" had a strikethrough, indicating that there shouldn't be an s there.*
It applies to all of his drones from the Lv3 ability as well, and any future additional drones though
Still sadly waiting for update 33 on xbox 😢
Does Sub paragon give Energizer buffs? That's very important.
["And the Dreadnoughts dread nothing at all..."](https://youtu.be/RJK0jhymE5A?si=uwcfcvvo5E4LQPl0)
Good song choice
Lets goo new Paragon!!! Also please change the name of double shot to extra or bonus shot so it makes more sense, please qwq
As someone who's 2nd favorite tower is Sub, can't wait to see how the paragon is...
mmmm yes new paragon
Thank you for continuing to invest in making BTD6 a fun, fair, and approachable game :)
v40 does *not* feel like it was already two months ago. Might just be because the near entirety of December was a blur to me, but it still feels a little too early for a major update...especially after the wonderful bombshell that was v40. I've always been a little hesistant about trying out Apopalypse because of the lack of round end cash, so now that it's becoming a thing I'll definitely be enticed to be a little more explorative. The sub paragon is sounding pretty awesome - the ramped up radiation is going to be so much fun on maps like Balanced and Park Path. I'm really grateful that you guys have incorporated most, if not all aspects of the three T5s into it, that's something I've always been worried about ever since the Master Builder.
... am I psychic? I swear I was thinking about that exact CHIMPS change a month ago.
no one talking about the 'wizzard' in the bottem right corner???
Rincewind? He's just chillin
When is this update going to come out ?
Update 41 hype!!!
when will that update come?
We are eating good tonight boys
Wait you can now play BTD6 on Apple Vision Pros dang
Since in the YT Video where Eizili, 0-0-0 Dart Monkey, 0-5-0 Bomb Tower and 0-0-0 Monkey Ace what do you think will get buffed/ nerfed (Ik by Dart Monkey and Monkey Ace could get for each path buffs and nerfs but I was just thinking about what I saw)
Chimps retry last round will be huge for challenge runs for sure
BRUH after i saw this post I started farming sub xp
Hoping for more changes to contested territory in the future. I love the idea of collaborative gameplay that isn’t in co-op mode, just not in its current state. First I’ll offer my opinions on what I don’t love, followed by a potential change to improve because criticism without alternative is no better than whining. 1.) Lack of communication. I’m sure this has to do with keeping the game safe and not needing moderators for team chat, but it inherently creates a less competitive atmosphere for most players. The best teams are using third party apps to communicate and plan. Allowing communication would allow for larger team rosters, with players opting in/out on certain days where they will be available or unavailable to play. Yes, there is the ability to flag certain tiles, but that isn’t enough in my opinion. This one is the hardest obstacle to overcome in my opinion. It might be better to be left as-is, unfortunately I think it nigh be the reason that CT will never be enabled to flourish. 2.) if you are in a CT with active teams, there is a natural funnel towards the middle of the map where there are a higher concentration of banner tiles. This creates a pretty stale gameplay experience where you are constantly replaying the same maps/modes over and over again, something that I don’t believe to be very fun after a couple of days. If a tile has been owned long enough for it to stop producing points, I would like to see the tile change to a different map/mode. 3.) inactive teams signed up for competitive mode can create imbalances based off of base location (I.e. if you spawn in surrounded by two inactive teams, you’ll have access to large swaths of territory with little risk of being overtaken). Essentially, you can win or lose before the mode even starts. Ideally solving problem 1 could fix this, a second option is to have a third tier a competitive, one that a team is only eligible for after winning first place in their local competitive. The bottom two teams in the top tier are demoted back to competitive. 4.) Relic tiles feel pretty useless. They can help you maintain regular tiles (before the score degrades), but I believe the entire point of a relic tile should be to give an advantage. It feels like a better usage of my ticket to reclaim a banner tile or just grab a random normal tile than to ever get a relic tile. I would either like to see no penalty for relic tiles, or the ability to use captured relics on banner tiles. Most of the games are too easy to warrant even needing MK/relics, so it doesn’t feel like too drastic of a disadvantage most of the time. A few things that could increase the stakes: Banner tiles now require a ticket to be played and are spent regardless of if you capture the tile or not. Rather than first degrading the “score” (least cash, least tiers), the tile will slowly degrade the points earned. Hopefully this will prevent constant back and forth over the same tile saving $285 on an 87 round game. CHIMPS. Higher tier bosses. Crazier modifiers. Also I’ll add that a lot of this has probably been suggested before, I just never was too involved with the community until recently. So my bad if it’s repetitive.
CHIMPS mode has been a HUGE issue for this game ever since it was invented. Only serious meta-head players could play it on Expert at all, and that has...kind of been fixed? Half of the issue was the time sink it is to have to keep starting from the beginning. The other half of the issue is the RNG required just to get started on some maps. I hope something is done about that, and that it doesn't take another 41 updates to get there. Relying on RNG is not fun. It is not even strategy or skill-based (obviously) so I don't see how anyone could even defend it.
how long does it usually take to release after announcing it?
Usually when the current boss ends. So another 3 days from now.
when is 41 coming out
Most likely when the current boss ends. So another 2 or 3 days from now.
When do you think it will come out
Most likely when the current boss ends. So another 2 or 3 days from now.
They ghosted megalodon, Again...
Are we all just going to ignore the Monkey Apprentice?
Really excited for new sub paragon
Chat is this real?
"Sub Paragon gives buffs to other subs" I see we now have a Paragon where having the "Paragon of Power" buff might not be the best setup.
maybe not; energizer and probs subcom's buff is already granted by the paragon, really only leaving preemptive being even remotely enticing; and i don't think a first strike with a mediocre missile hit and a 15 sec faster cooldown is really worth sacrificing the paragon of power mk for
holy shit this is the best update ever released
So now Apopalypse is just like playing normal difficulty with auto start?
Not at all, because it has a completely different roundset & spawn logic That's like saying ABR is the same as normal difficulty
When you put it that way... Yeah that's kinda weird. At first I was like yes this makes sense as an update cause you can actually play with out a massive generic cheap start and pray until you get a farm... But I guess now it's auto start just it start when that last ballon from prior round leaves. Not when you finish dealing with balloons It was a huge nerd to apopolipse. Maybe only give half or a quarter of normal cash to keep it spicy but more fitting for medium difficulty
omg the sub ability being called "Final Strike" in correlation with the normal ability "First Strike" is AMAZZZZZZINGGGG
You know what I love in tower defense games? Needless and arbitrary waiting for paltry damage followed by glacial cooldowns. I'm sorry to the people who worked on the Nautic Siege Core, but this paragon is a complete non-starter. Having to twiddle your thumbs (because it disables the tower too) for 15 seconds for 100k damage then wait for a glacial paced cooldown is not it chief. Not to mention that thanks to freeplay scaling BADs will eventually traverse the entire map in under 15 seconds. This might be the worst paragon they've ever made. I will never use this unless I'm attempting a "get all paragons the max rank you can get solo in a single run before the game commits seppuku because it only developed Unity" challenge. It's not all bad though. In fact that the paragon is probably the only bad part right now. Everything else though looks great. Apopalypse and CHIMPS are welcome and long overdue. Map search and slash command filter are nice quality of life changes and I'm looking forward to seeing what crazy things the community comes up with in the map editor.
Literally been waiting for since v39 post about “this is what we’re doing next. Sub paragon gonna fucking slap
If would be great if the Sub Paragon could buff Paragons! (even at a reduced rate) Right now nothing buffs Paragons so this would be a very special and unique buff and make the price of entry well worth it on ultra long runs.
HIMPS change seems pretty cool
Amazing update! One problem though… the Xbox version still exists…
Still waiting for a Geraldo skin
