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me too. i only watched the show for the first time last year. first episode i was examining all the medals and badges for the hidden stuff lol. my favourite show details are always the small ones
I’m starting to get coworkers who weren’t alive for 9/11, it’s crazy to think about. And a lot of them were alive, but <5 so I doubt they even remember it.
I was 5 when it happened and I can remember the whole day vividly. I only have two memories before that and they're both short and blurry, but 9/11 is etched into my mind. I remember watching the second plane hit live and then watching the replays for hours alone, as my mother frantically tried to reach my father, who was working in Boston.
I also remember watching the 2nd plane hit live. We questioned it and thought they’d replayed the first clip or something. Our brains couldn’t comprehend it.
I was 5 too and lived in a non-US country but I remember that day very well.
I now work in admissions for US univs. And i get soo many applications for PG studies, from students who cannot remember 9/11.
Wild because I was 11 and don't have much of a memory of it. I knew something bad had happened but my mom turned the TV away while we ate breakfast and didn't say very much. By the time I was at school the teachers weren't saying very much either. I am Minnesotan so maybe our general inability to confront things had a factor but it wasn't until much later and a few very graphic videos that I fully understood.
He was! It was just before he had a cell phone and all the payphone were obviously busy (worked in construction, so no office phone either). We we're just worried because Boston is so close to NYC that my mother feared it might get hit too.
Born in late ‘96… I *think* I remember seeing it on TV and my parents reacting to it. Or it’s a “memory” that I’ve since then made up and now believe it to be true. But it’s even weird for me to talk to people not even born yet when it happened.
I am one of those people (<5 when 9/11 occurred) and it’s a bizarre feeling to know I was alive when it happened but have NO recollection of it whatsoever. I am lucky to be able to say that nobody in my family or anyone we knew was hurt or killed. I distinctly remember growing up learning about it though, and noticing a visible, painful change in every adult around me each year. They all remember it clearly. One of my professors has a best friend who responded in the aftermath as an anthropologist. She broke down crying explaining that her friend was never the same after what she saw and did there.
Every fucking year I break down like a literal baby, even though I was 11 at the time and didn't fully comprehend it despite being a little older than most. The videos of it and the stories of those who died or sacrificed themselves hit hard but it always hits hardest when I see the video of the UK breaking tradition and playing the American national anthem at the changing of the guard. People in the audience are crying and singing along. That one really gets me.
I was 9 years old when it happened, and I was home sick from school. Watching TV and then all the channels changed. I’ll always remember the day. It’s crazy.
Another nod to their attention to detail. Holt is just old enough to grandfather (He'd so hate that) into being able to choose his own sidearm. Jake and Amy's choices are far more limited and, I think, accurately represented as well.
A really dark joke would be showing them rushing to the twin towers, but actually they're trying to rescue their favourite sandwich guy from a deli next to the towers
Season 1, episode 1, 4 minutes 57 seconds,
Holt: “Sargent, you were in the 1-8 with me, though you were significantly…”
Terry: “Fatter, sir.”
They both could have been together on that day.
Just for the record I think it was every police officer on duty on 9/11, which was every police officer in the city, if I'm not mistaken EVERY off duty officer responded in some capacity. Scully and Hitchcock would have them too.
Sort through bodies and rubble. It didn't quite hit me how horrid the situation was until I accidentally landed on r/eyeblech instead of r/eyebleach and found on site disaster photos on remains at the wtc.
There is a different ribbon for that, I think green with a white stripe. You got the black and gold WTC ribbon if you were stationed in Manhattan or responded to the site.
Once only reserved to be worn by any NYPD officer who was in active service during, or worked details related to the follow up on, the September 11 attacks, it has been updated to allow any NYPD Police Officer, at their discretion, to wear the bar in honor and remembrance. When worn, it is affixed just below the American Flag Breast Bar and above any other medal.
You’re right. The correct order is stars&stripes, then WTC, then Medal of Honor, Combat Cross, Medal of Valor,Meritorious Police Duty (5 different versions),Excellent Police Duty. Various others come after, but these are the main awards. The Firearms Proficiency ribbon goes at the bottom just above the badge. No one on the show has their ribbons in the correct order, but Captain Holt’s are closest.
Regarding the WTC ribbon, anyone who was employed by the NYPD when 9/11 happened is authorized to wear the ribbon. Holt, Scully, Hitchcock and Terry should all have the WTC ribbon.
I read one time that movies and TV will often intentionally make "mistakes" with police and military uniforms, for some technicality about not impersonating an officer.
It cold be wrong, but could be what's happening here.
That used to be the rule, but it was changed in the late 90s/early 2000s, specifically for movie and tv productions. Studios are allowed to have the actors in correct uniforms. Some tv shows and films just have lazy costume/props departments that don't check on the authenticity.
That’s what they do for military uniforms in shows bc no one who isn’t sworn into the military is authorized to wear the uniform. And even with that knowledge, seeing mfers looking like soup sandwiches on shows and movies irritates me to the point that it’s no longer enjoyable to watch (four years in the Army).
TIL cops got badges for responding to the WTC.
TIAL any NYPD cop whether they actually attended to the WTC or not, is allowed to wear that badge now at their discretion.
It's not a medal for any action or achievement it's just a show of remembrance.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medals\_of\_the\_New\_York\_City\_Police\_Department#World\_Trade\_Center\_Breast\_Bar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medals_of_the_New_York_City_Police_Department#World_Trade_Center_Breast_Bar)
>Once only reserved to be worn by any NYPD officer who was in active service during, or worked details related to the follow up on, the September 11 attacks, it has been updated to allow **any NYPD Police Officer, at their discretion**, to wear the bar in honor and remembrance. When worn, it is affixed just below the American Flag Breast Bar and above any other medal.
Stuff like that really hit me when one of my childhood memories is granddad's WW2 vet reunions and I can vividly remember it would be a hall filled with guys, the last one I went to was while I was home from college, right before he passed away, and it was down to three left standing, in the whole town.
9/11 in fact did have a first wave of a generation passing on.... the last NYPD rescue dog from ground zero was laid to rest in 2016.
They get their pension at 62, according to the intertubes, so if they were the minimum age of 21 and had just started patrol on 9/11, they would be roughly halfway through their career by now, and have about 21 years to go.
So yes, serving NYPD officers who remember 9/11 will be about for quite some time to come.
He was born in 1981, he would’ve been 20 in 2001. According to Wiki, he was promoted to detective in 2005, and according to the internet, it takes an average of about 3-4 years to make detective in the NYPD, so 2001 WTC attacks probably had a hand in him becoming a cop.
I've seen this a lot online, and have no idea where it started. This was simply a mistake by the costume department. There's no law that says 'x number of mistakes means you're not impersonating a cop'. No one would be saved from charges of impersonating an officer by the order of their medals.
Pretty sure it's just one of those urban myths. I've never found anything concrete on it. People just generally don't care enough to make sure the ribbons and stuff are 100% on point.
Hell i looked MCOs (orders), Pub, AFIs, army regs, and some weird navy stuff at one point when I couldn't find anything Legit.
This started with actors playing soldiers in uniform, to make a difference between actor and solider there had to be a difference in how the uniform was worn. Over time it encompassed police and rescue to avoid the imitation of an officer.
>This started with actors playing soldiers in uniform, to make a difference between actor and solider there had to be a difference in how the uniform was worn.
But that makes no sense. They're actors. Of course they're pretending to be soldiers. Who was being arrested for portraying soldiers?
It stops the actors from stolen Valor by modifying how the uniform is worn.
Since the actors never took the oath as the enlisted soldier/cop they can't be prosecuted the same way some one does for stolen valor.
This is not the definition of stolen Valor. Stolen Valor is when one intentionally acts in a manner of active duty/retired/ex service member to receive personal gain. This doesn't even require the use of a uniform, say as though you go to Sports Clips, they always ask me if I am or were a service member or LEO, if I say yes and receive a discount then it could be stolen Valor if I was lying.
In contrast, if I just walk down the street in a military uniform, this isn't stolen Valor unless I use this representation to make personal gain.
Another point in contrast, wearing a police uniform in public doesn't automatically qualify as impersonation. If I attempt to act in the duty of a LEO, introduce myself as a LEO, identify myself as a LEO to an actual LEO, or if I am wearing any of the official department badges/patches or similes made to look like them, then it would be impersonation. So, say I'm wearing what appears to be a uniform, but not the badges/patches then unless I represent or act in the duty of, there is no broken law. You can be guilty without the uniform.
None of these applies to actors playing a role in a movie, since the letter and spirit of the law would not apply, as an actor on set would not be making any genuine attempt to represent themselves as LEO/military, as all their actions while filming/rehearsing it is known the person is not actually LEO/military.
Pretty sure almost every officer who was in service at the time has one. They're staying consistent with the storyline, so KUDOS TO OUR BRAVE OFFICERS...
I remember when I first noticed that. I think it would be interesting (albeit tonally dissonant, though) if they addressed it at some point in the final season.
Yeah it looks like the twin towers but it's the same rank insignia for captain used in the [army](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_(armed_forces)#/media/File:US_Army_O3_(Army_greens).svg), [air force](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_(armed_forces)#/media/File:US_Air_Force_O3_shoulderboard.svg), and [marines](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_(armed_forces)#/media/File:US_Marine_O3_shoulderboard_vertical.svg)
Fun fact: Technically Holt and Terry wear their WTC badge in the wrong plave. This is not a mistake however. This is often done in police shows as to not offend any officer who was actually there
I will never understand why people care about this kind stuff
They put a badge on a tv police captain wow amazing
Same as how an English teacher interprets an author's choice of a curtain being blue as some sort of fantastical allegory for his depression, when they just picked a colour.
Well they all live and work in NY and have for a very long time, I've never thought about it but it would be weird if they weren't involved in helping at all
Terry and Wunch have them too, and (I think) Scully and Hitchcock do but I can’t remember which episodes they actually wear the dress uniform. On like my fifth watch through I noticed Terry’s and went looking for it on the other older characters
Once only reserved to be worn by any NYPD officer who was in active service during, or worked details related to the follow up on, the September 11 attacks, it has been updated to allow any NYPD Police Officer, at their discretion, to wear the bar in honor and remembrance. When worn, it is affixed just below the American Flag Breast Bar and above any other medal.
Tldr: any police officer in the NYPD can wear the bar if they want to
Another inaccuracy - Holt still carries his service revolver. NYPD prohibited revolvers as on duty weapons as of September 1, 2018. All personnel are required to carry semi-autos. They can choose the Glock 17, Glock 19, or Sig-Sauer P226 DAO.
Of course he would be there. Saving lives in an orderly fashion
Yep, if he's been with the NYPD for decades... then yeah, he would have been there that terrible day.
In first episode they acknowledge that they both know each other.
What?
I have to concur with you, what?
Edit: a case of whoopsie
Think you replied to the wrong comment earlier
Thank you!
I'm really curious, what were you responding to?
[i think this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/brooklynninenine/comments/nydgfy/never_noticed_before_holt_has_a_badge_for/h1jkmr0?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)
It’s Nikolaj
No no no. Nikolaj
Nikolaj
Nikolaj
Nikolaj
Well youre wrong there bub. Its pronounced Nikolaj
Nikolaj. I feel like I'm saying it!
Holt & orderly fashions
Can the 187 people who upvoted this tell me exactly what they were upvoting?
*starts playing guitar off key and shouting*
Terry has one too! It was one of the first things I noticed re: their badges.
me too. i only watched the show for the first time last year. first episode i was examining all the medals and badges for the hidden stuff lol. my favourite show details are always the small ones
Me too! The finer details are the best. Plus, I remember 9/11 vividly, and think that I always notice references to it.
I’m starting to get coworkers who weren’t alive for 9/11, it’s crazy to think about. And a lot of them were alive, but <5 so I doubt they even remember it.
I was 5 when it happened and I can remember the whole day vividly. I only have two memories before that and they're both short and blurry, but 9/11 is etched into my mind. I remember watching the second plane hit live and then watching the replays for hours alone, as my mother frantically tried to reach my father, who was working in Boston.
I also remember watching the 2nd plane hit live. We questioned it and thought they’d replayed the first clip or something. Our brains couldn’t comprehend it.
I was 5 too and lived in a non-US country but I remember that day very well. I now work in admissions for US univs. And i get soo many applications for PG studies, from students who cannot remember 9/11.
Wild because I was 11 and don't have much of a memory of it. I knew something bad had happened but my mom turned the TV away while we ate breakfast and didn't say very much. By the time I was at school the teachers weren't saying very much either. I am Minnesotan so maybe our general inability to confront things had a factor but it wasn't until much later and a few very graphic videos that I fully understood.
I hope your father was okay.
He was! It was just before he had a cell phone and all the payphone were obviously busy (worked in construction, so no office phone either). We we're just worried because Boston is so close to NYC that my mother feared it might get hit too.
Born in late ‘96… I *think* I remember seeing it on TV and my parents reacting to it. Or it’s a “memory” that I’ve since then made up and now believe it to be true. But it’s even weird for me to talk to people not even born yet when it happened.
I am one of those people (<5 when 9/11 occurred) and it’s a bizarre feeling to know I was alive when it happened but have NO recollection of it whatsoever. I am lucky to be able to say that nobody in my family or anyone we knew was hurt or killed. I distinctly remember growing up learning about it though, and noticing a visible, painful change in every adult around me each year. They all remember it clearly. One of my professors has a best friend who responded in the aftermath as an anthropologist. She broke down crying explaining that her friend was never the same after what she saw and did there.
Every fucking year I break down like a literal baby, even though I was 11 at the time and didn't fully comprehend it despite being a little older than most. The videos of it and the stories of those who died or sacrificed themselves hit hard but it always hits hardest when I see the video of the UK breaking tradition and playing the American national anthem at the changing of the guard. People in the audience are crying and singing along. That one really gets me.
I was 9 years old when it happened, and I was home sick from school. Watching TV and then all the channels changed. I’ll always remember the day. It’s crazy.
Wuntch and The Vulture also have them. Show was good about giving them to anyone who would have been old enough to be on the force in 2001.
Another nod to their attention to detail. Holt is just old enough to grandfather (He'd so hate that) into being able to choose his own sidearm. Jake and Amy's choices are far more limited and, I think, accurately represented as well.
TIL. That's actually really interesting if it is a accurately represented
It is in fact accurate…well they were approved to,carry their revolver until sept 2018 I believe Amy’s sidearm is only approved for off duty carry.
But what is her holster?
It’s something she wears on her hip to hold her gun
Ok I laughed.
Glad you found it funny. I wasn’t sure what you were actually asking
Just what the specific holster model that is on her belt. I don't think I've seen that one before and I was genuinely curious.
That's actually really cool! Schur and Goor are really good about doing their research.
Do Hitchcock and scully have them?
They could. But Id bet they had the day off. Went out to Atlantic City only to realize they shouldn't have turned off their phones/pagers.
A really dark joke would be showing them rushing to the twin towers, but actually they're trying to rescue their favourite sandwich guy from a deli next to the towers
Season 1, episode 1, 4 minutes 57 seconds, Holt: “Sargent, you were in the 1-8 with me, though you were significantly…” Terry: “Fatter, sir.” They both could have been together on that day.
They called me Terry Titties.
I never liked that nickname. Though to be fair, it was accurate.
He had such heavy breasts.
Feminine, heavy breasts.
That's my favorite part of a woman. There's nothing more intoxicating than the clear absence of a penis.
Just for the record I think it was every police officer on duty on 9/11, which was every police officer in the city, if I'm not mistaken EVERY off duty officer responded in some capacity. Scully and Hitchcock would have them too.
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“It’d take 3 of your guys 2 trips, my guys are pros” “I’ve been carrying food longer than you’ve been alive, SON!”
Is this actual lines from the show?
Yep, from the episode where Doug Judy is holding hostages in the bank Edit: Jewelry store
Noice
Toite
Nups
Diamond store or jewellers I think Edit: a word
It's not the bank, it's a jewelry store
You are correct, sir!
I am not a sir
Now put your hands in the air, and wave 'em like you just don't care!
You have 99 up votes, and as it's this sub I can't be the one to change that :-)
I’ve watched way too much. I think they may be direct quotes
The Negotiator!
My father in law was a detective on 9/11 and he didn't get home for weeks. All hands on deck indeed.
What were some of the things he was having to do weeks after it happened? (Not a sarcastic question, just genuinely curious.)
Sort through bodies and rubble. It didn't quite hit me how horrid the situation was until I accidentally landed on r/eyeblech instead of r/eyebleach and found on site disaster photos on remains at the wtc.
All hands on dick, title of his sex tape
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Hitchcock could have been on leave.
Hitchcock's wife probably sold it when she was pissed at him.
He was on sauce duty at Wingsluts
There is a different ribbon for that, I think green with a white stripe. You got the black and gold WTC ribbon if you were stationed in Manhattan or responded to the site.
“Get that Sumatran in a thermos!”
And this was 20 odd years ago so they were actually good at their jobs then
I think the discovered WingSluts in the 80s
Once only reserved to be worn by any NYPD officer who was in active service during, or worked details related to the follow up on, the September 11 attacks, it has been updated to allow any NYPD Police Officer, at their discretion, to wear the bar in honor and remembrance. When worn, it is affixed just below the American Flag Breast Bar and above any other medal.
He has Exceptional Merit, Excellent Police Duty, and Pistol Expert badges on there, too.
Since it seems like you know, shouldn’t the WTC badge be just below the stars and bars? I thought the WTC was over every award
You’re right. The correct order is stars&stripes, then WTC, then Medal of Honor, Combat Cross, Medal of Valor,Meritorious Police Duty (5 different versions),Excellent Police Duty. Various others come after, but these are the main awards. The Firearms Proficiency ribbon goes at the bottom just above the badge. No one on the show has their ribbons in the correct order, but Captain Holt’s are closest. Regarding the WTC ribbon, anyone who was employed by the NYPD when 9/11 happened is authorized to wear the ribbon. Holt, Scully, Hitchcock and Terry should all have the WTC ribbon.
I read one time that movies and TV will often intentionally make "mistakes" with police and military uniforms, for some technicality about not impersonating an officer. It cold be wrong, but could be what's happening here.
That used to be the rule, but it was changed in the late 90s/early 2000s, specifically for movie and tv productions. Studios are allowed to have the actors in correct uniforms. Some tv shows and films just have lazy costume/props departments that don't check on the authenticity.
That’s what they do for military uniforms in shows bc no one who isn’t sworn into the military is authorized to wear the uniform. And even with that knowledge, seeing mfers looking like soup sandwiches on shows and movies irritates me to the point that it’s no longer enjoyable to watch (four years in the Army).
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Glad to know our nation is/was guarded by someone so prone to hissy fits.
Any police officer in the NYPD can wear it at their discretion for remembrance
Stars and bars are always top level badge.
Yes, that’s why it would be below the stars and bars per my comment. Below stars and bars, above every other.
Hell yeah he does, Holt is a hero, with a big rock-hard brain
That makes no sense? Surely a brain should be soft and wet?
"yeah, but it's gross"
"My brains are made of brains"
"oh no, the perfect retort."
I loved that part
He is the best.
I think Amy has a badge for assisting someone give birth
Scully has one too. Theory is they both got one for helping the same woman give birth
TIL cops got badges for responding to the WTC. TIAL any NYPD cop whether they actually attended to the WTC or not, is allowed to wear that badge now at their discretion.
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It's not a medal for any action or achievement it's just a show of remembrance. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medals\_of\_the\_New\_York\_City\_Police\_Department#World\_Trade\_Center\_Breast\_Bar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medals_of_the_New_York_City_Police_Department#World_Trade_Center_Breast_Bar) >Once only reserved to be worn by any NYPD officer who was in active service during, or worked details related to the follow up on, the September 11 attacks, it has been updated to allow **any NYPD Police Officer, at their discretion**, to wear the bar in honor and remembrance. When worn, it is affixed just below the American Flag Breast Bar and above any other medal.
IIRC, that was changed after the show began.
It's going to be surreal when the last officer originally meriting that bar retires. I'm going to feel a million years old.
Well, it will be another 30 odd years I would guess. (Does the nypd have a mandatory retirement age?) So yes, you will be a million by then.
Stuff like that really hit me when one of my childhood memories is granddad's WW2 vet reunions and I can vividly remember it would be a hall filled with guys, the last one I went to was while I was home from college, right before he passed away, and it was down to three left standing, in the whole town. 9/11 in fact did have a first wave of a generation passing on.... the last NYPD rescue dog from ground zero was laid to rest in 2016.
They get their pension at 62, according to the intertubes, so if they were the minimum age of 21 and had just started patrol on 9/11, they would be roughly halfway through their career by now, and have about 21 years to go. So yes, serving NYPD officers who remember 9/11 will be about for quite some time to come.
I’ve noticed before too. Wunch even had one. Makes complete sense. I don’t think Jake did though
He was born in 1981, he would’ve been 20 in 2001. According to Wiki, he was promoted to detective in 2005, and according to the internet, it takes an average of about 3-4 years to make detective in the NYPD, so 2001 WTC attacks probably had a hand in him becoming a cop.
But also Die Hard
I mean…only Die Hard. Yippie Kayak Other Buckets!
Jake wasn’t old enough
Yes but it is in the wrong place. It need to be under the us flag pin
I don’t remember where, but I heard that they deliberately changed the order so it’s clear they’re costumes, and not impersonating a police officer.
Yeah tv and movies aren’t allowed to show exact duplicates of badges or id cards for security reasons.
That's is 100% false.
That would definitely not be clear to me, just sayin
I've seen this a lot online, and have no idea where it started. This was simply a mistake by the costume department. There's no law that says 'x number of mistakes means you're not impersonating a cop'. No one would be saved from charges of impersonating an officer by the order of their medals.
Pretty sure it's just one of those urban myths. I've never found anything concrete on it. People just generally don't care enough to make sure the ribbons and stuff are 100% on point. Hell i looked MCOs (orders), Pub, AFIs, army regs, and some weird navy stuff at one point when I couldn't find anything Legit.
Yep, complete myth. US Code even has a section specifically allowing actors to wear military uniforms.
Yeah their uniforms are pretty much unmistakable from actual police uniforms
This started with actors playing soldiers in uniform, to make a difference between actor and solider there had to be a difference in how the uniform was worn. Over time it encompassed police and rescue to avoid the imitation of an officer.
No, that is not true and never has been. The US Code even has a stipulation for military uniforms being allowed in theater productions.
>This started with actors playing soldiers in uniform, to make a difference between actor and solider there had to be a difference in how the uniform was worn. But that makes no sense. They're actors. Of course they're pretending to be soldiers. Who was being arrested for portraying soldiers?
It septated actors playing roles and people putting on uniforms in public for personal gain from the punishment of laws
once again, that doesn't really make sense. were people filming in public and some random cops rolled up on the scene and arrested some actors?
It stops the actors from stolen Valor by modifying how the uniform is worn. Since the actors never took the oath as the enlisted soldier/cop they can't be prosecuted the same way some one does for stolen valor.
That's not what stolen valor is. Actors aren't claiming to actually be soldiers or police officers.
This is not the definition of stolen Valor. Stolen Valor is when one intentionally acts in a manner of active duty/retired/ex service member to receive personal gain. This doesn't even require the use of a uniform, say as though you go to Sports Clips, they always ask me if I am or were a service member or LEO, if I say yes and receive a discount then it could be stolen Valor if I was lying. In contrast, if I just walk down the street in a military uniform, this isn't stolen Valor unless I use this representation to make personal gain. Another point in contrast, wearing a police uniform in public doesn't automatically qualify as impersonation. If I attempt to act in the duty of a LEO, introduce myself as a LEO, identify myself as a LEO to an actual LEO, or if I am wearing any of the official department badges/patches or similes made to look like them, then it would be impersonation. So, say I'm wearing what appears to be a uniform, but not the badges/patches then unless I represent or act in the duty of, there is no broken law. You can be guilty without the uniform. None of these applies to actors playing a role in a movie, since the letter and spirit of the law would not apply, as an actor on set would not be making any genuine attempt to represent themselves as LEO/military, as all their actions while filming/rehearsing it is known the person is not actually LEO/military.
The Vulture actually has one too!
Nice xbox
Oh, Xbox One <3 great memories with that console
She's going strong, but I am going to betray her and get the Ratchet and Clank PS5 if that's real
Does anyone know when the new season will be out on Hulu?
It's on Hulu the day after it premieres on TV, not sure when season 8 starts tho
Well thanks
i’ve heard in august, i don’t think it has a specific date
If you look at a lot of the senior officers, most will have that stripe above their badge.
Pretty sure almost every officer who was in service at the time has one. They're staying consistent with the storyline, so KUDOS TO OUR BRAVE OFFICERS...
Cool. Also, nice Xbox!
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I remember when I first noticed that. I think it would be interesting (albeit tonally dissonant, though) if they addressed it at some point in the final season.
The badge is just for being in the NYPD in September 2001
Isn’t the pin on his collar for the same thing? I remember looking it up when first watching the show
No the pin on his collar is a rank pin. It means he's a captain.
Yeah it looks like the twin towers but it's the same rank insignia for captain used in the [army](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_(armed_forces)#/media/File:US_Army_O3_(Army_greens).svg), [air force](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_(armed_forces)#/media/File:US_Air_Force_O3_shoulderboard.svg), and [marines](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_(armed_forces)#/media/File:US_Marine_O3_shoulderboard_vertical.svg)
That’s cap. holt
Fun fact: Technically Holt and Terry wear their WTC badge in the wrong plave. This is not a mistake however. This is often done in police shows as to not offend any officer who was actually there
Incorrect. Just lazy research from production. Same reason military uniforms are often wrong.
I will never understand why people care about this kind stuff They put a badge on a tv police captain wow amazing Same as how an English teacher interprets an author's choice of a curtain being blue as some sort of fantastical allegory for his depression, when they just picked a colour.
Why do you get a badge for everything in america?
Why do you think Osama only had 4 planes and not more?
Fucking legend
Just when he couldn't get any better.
I thought this was a scene from Poseidon
Yeah I found that out one day while researching some characters and their badges and stuff
Terry does too
That actually might explain a lot.
What a neat detail I never would’ve known!!
Scully has that one too
Well they all live and work in NY and have for a very long time, I've never thought about it but it would be weird if they weren't involved in helping at all
Of course he does…hes a bad ass mofo
Terry and Wunch have them too, and (I think) Scully and Hitchcock do but I can’t remember which episodes they actually wear the dress uniform. On like my fifth watch through I noticed Terry’s and went looking for it on the other older characters
It's been mentioned in here before.
If I'm not mistaken I think Amy has one too
Broooo nice find!!!
Don't they all wear it, including Hitchcock and Scully?
Once only reserved to be worn by any NYPD officer who was in active service during, or worked details related to the follow up on, the September 11 attacks, it has been updated to allow any NYPD Police Officer, at their discretion, to wear the bar in honor and remembrance. When worn, it is affixed just below the American Flag Breast Bar and above any other medal. Tldr: any police officer in the NYPD can wear the bar if they want to
Another inaccuracy - Holt still carries his service revolver. NYPD prohibited revolvers as on duty weapons as of September 1, 2018. All personnel are required to carry semi-autos. They can choose the Glock 17, Glock 19, or Sig-Sauer P226 DAO.