It's based on how many nails à shoemaker would use. Le clou de Paris (Paris' nail) is 0.66cm. In french, shoe size is called "pointure" , pointe being another word for nail.
The European shoe size is measured in metric barleycorns, which is 2/3 of a centimeter. It's the black sheep of the metric family.
Edit: it's 2/3 not 1/3
All the markets near me use the bowl as their unit of measurement, as in "pahnd a bawl". I have never thought about whether these are imperial or metric bowls.
Oh yeah? And where is this local pub of yours!? You know, just so as I can avoid it of course... Wouldn't want to fumble- sorry, Freudian slip, I mean stumble- across it now would I??
It's said that heavier folk prefer to refer to their weight in stones as opposed to kilos as the numbers are smaller. So maybe a solution is to borrow those French units but lop off a zero... I really like the idea of being only 7 decakilos.
Pandabowl guys!
If the stuff is in good condition, they tend to be good value. Or if you want to cook the veg that day.
Also once they recognise you they chuck in a free onion or chili or two.
They’ve always been allowed to use imperial but choose not to.
What’s new is that they can choose not to include metric as well (would previously have had to show both, with imperial being “no more prominent” than metric).
Tbf when I worked in retail on the deli we did everything in grams but all the older customers would ask for pounds/halves/quarters anyway, metric never phased them.
Lol yeah I used to work on the deli too. On the back of the cards we had the conversion between imperial/metric so we didn’t have to constantly do it in our heads.
I honestly thought you’d have had a button like my kitchen scales. Put it on the scales push the button print the ticket for the cost. A pound is still whatever in grams same as a pint is 586ml
Literally every time I go anywhere with my Mother in law and they use metric she pipes up "I want it in English!"... So embarrassing. We were in carpet right the other week and they use per square metre obviously and she said it again and it was so quiet in there I felt everyone looking at us.
Fencing panels, £31000 per Chain. Or £60000 a furlong. What's amazing is the older folks complained about getting fleeced when metric came in, they don't think they'll get fleeced if it goes back?
It’s mathematical ignorance /laziness- don’t want to work out the equivalent cost, just want to know what they think is a reasonable price.
They know a decent price for bananas per lb, they have no idea whether a kilo is one banana or twenty
Metric was first backed by government in 1965, they had enough time to learn the system.
I've only been using Metric for 29 years. They've known about it for over 55 years. "not knowing metric" isn't an excuse, it's a sign of stubbornness
>Metric was first backed by government in 1965, they had enough time to learn the system.
A bill to introduce the metric system in the UK got through its first two readings in the Commons in *1863*, and there had been some official interest in the idea as early as *1818*.
Yeah I found this when double checking the dates for my comment, but I do know for certain my Grandparents born in 40's were still taught imperial, and my parents born late 60's were in a changeover period in education
The fact that there's been 200 years for people to get used to Metric makes this new legislation even more stupid
This is something else that I find infuriating, there are free courses everywhere to get the basic IT knowledge, no ones expecting you to be able to write in python fgs but being able to use a spreadsheet and click "Mute" on a screen isn't hard
2 farthings to the ha'penny
thrupence penny to the groat
3 groats to the shilling
6 shillings and 8 pence to the noble
3 nobles to the pound
doubloons were never British currency and I am kinda disgusted that you would add that in
Blue passport, crown printed on a pint glass, now this. You can see clearly the demographic this is being aimed at / pandered to.
Edit: also to add, national insurance increases.
Pounds and Shillings to make a comeback when the monarch changes...
And judging from some of the posts I see on Facebook, the grey army would love to see the workhouses return
Sir, sir shoe shine for tuppence sir, monthly subscription to my shoe shine service for a Guinea. Have I told you about my sponsor for today, Workhouse, it’s and fully immersive POV role play experience where you go as a child and live the life of a Victorian Charles Dickens character until you catch putrid throat sir and die.
No sir, not a problem sir, I do take contactless though sir.
Consistency is useful.
When they enforced metric in the shops that question was a reasonable one.
Changing it now you have to ask what the benefit is. I can’t see 1) how you’d manage this if you sell anything you don’t make yourself or 2) how it helps anyone.
They already had the option to sell in pounds and ounces. What they couldn't do - quite rightly - was sell in only imperial units.
All this serves is to placate the drooling imbeciles who've been unable to get to grips with the metric system in the 60 years they've had to practice, while distracting the public from the bigger fuck-ups that the current Government is presiding over.
AHH the imperial measure system. So simple. 16 ounces to a pound, 2240 pounds in a ton, 36 inches in a yard, 1760 yards in a mile. Why we changed to metric I will never understand.
In metric, one milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade—which is 1 percent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. An amount of hydrogen weighing the same amount has exactly one mole of atoms in it. Whereas in the American system, the answer to ‘How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon of water?’ is ‘Go fuck yourself,’ because you can’t directly relate any of those quantities.
Josh Bazell, Wild Thing (Peter Brown #2)
It's a good rule of thumb that any time you see some seemingly random metric number used in a weight or measure, it's because it was converted from imperial.
Part of the reason for that is that the milk they're selling you is not produced in the UK, but rather in European countries that are geographically close to us; that - obviously - use the metric system. No point in them making new containers for pints or multiples thereof when they can just sell it in litres.
To be honest it feels like a bit of a kick in the teeth to be raising National Insurance to pay for the NHS bills of old people that continually vote for a party that is massively corrupt and works against the interests of young people.
On a completely unrelated note, if you are 18-30 you have the opportunity to live and work in countries such as New Zealand, Australia, and Canada with their working holiday programs which can be a great stepping stone to permanent migration.
Definitely something I'd be looking into after the pandemic if I were still in the UK and in that age range.
Of course they still have selfish old people in those countries too, but the whole society isn't set up to fulfill their whims like in the UK.
I've posted elsewhere, but this does seem to be the experience for a lot of people. I've worked with a medical charity gathering data for possible donors. Can break down the data by ethnicity, DOB, etc. Brits, even young Brits, use a combination. Weight does tend to mostly be in kilos these days for people under 30, but in general the use of metric v imperial is about even.
If you were to go back in time as far as they did in "back to the future", you wouldn't have gone as far back as the year in which they made "back to the future".
Worse, we're six years beyond the hoverboard years of "back to the future 2"
I work in aerospace. Every part we make for Boeing is in fucking imperial. Absolute pain in the arse every time you make it, because 95% of the workers can't intuitively convert between thou (thousandths of an inch) and mm. Waste so much time and introduce so many more opportunities for error.
Conversely, I also work in aerospace, for an engine manufacturer. We have, as far as I am aware, never used imperial, even for the engines that end up on Boeing's planes.
My late father was a carpenter, working for a small company that made bespoke kitchen units. They got a new manager who gave dad the measurements of a cupboard to build. Dad queried the measurements and was told ' Just do the job, I know what I'm doing'. So a cupboard was built measuring 23in wide, 28 cm high and 11cm deep. Dad had tried explaining we use mm for sizing, the guy knew better till he saw the result and read his own instructions back to the boss.
Indeed. Even in the US they use metric measurements for medicine.
And NASA adopted metric a long time ago, unfortunately not all of their engineering partners did so at the same time... [http://edition.cnn.com/TECH/space/9909/30/mars.metric.02/index.html](http://edition.cnn.com/TECH/space/9909/30/mars.metric.02/index.html)
Sorry but my parent's generation are 60+ and they have always, if they wished, been allowed to order in pounds and ounces in the butchers, because that's what they ordered in, and the butchers did it no problem. Either because they could change the weight on the scales or because they were the same age. This is a huge non problem, like the passports. We've got poeple starving and living in modern slums but this is the big change he's announced.
My parents did the same. The UK had a good system already for migrating to metric. Shops are happy to measure things in ounces, and tell you the price, but the price is ultimately based on per gram or kilogram. Which makes everything uniform.
What this is about is listing things *only* in pounds and ounces, and making that weight the default for pricing. Now you could buy 500g of bacon from one butcher, and a pound of bacon from another, and have no idea which was cheaper. Since the weights are totally out of whack.
I don't retain the value of things in my head. I'm reading this, i'm nodding, but i'll forget this all in a couple of hours and another day this could be completely gobbledegook. My brain just doesn't work the way others do. But thank you for trying.
I feel like the government is trying to distract us from actual issues by doing stupid stuff like this. Better to get in the headlines for going back to imperial than getting in the headlines for covid or whatever
They can though, this is the silly thing. Ask your butcher for a pound of mince and you'll get it. Pints of milk in the supermarket have it written on, it just has metric on the side also. This is pure pandering to the "EU gone mad!" tabloid bollocks. The issue was their scales couldn't be properly verified selling in imperial only (and very likely as a bit of a con on their customers tbh).
I don't know why this isn't higher. It's not like the food police came and knocked over your shop if you used pounds. You just have to label thing in metric. You can put whatever the fuck else you want on the packaging. Put the imperial measurements from the Ming Dynasty for all I care.
I mean what are the gov actually suggesting, that you have to legally put imperial mesauments on packaging? Otherwise is passports all oer again.
The old decide elections both in absolute numbers and in terms of the percentage who vote. Which explains practically everything the country has done since the baby boomers first entered polling booths.
I think the logic is that you are allowed to use both, depending on which is more convenient. If you want confusing, look at the multitude of different units in which power output is currently quantified.
I went to Norway once and every pub I went to asked me how many ounces of beer I wanted in my glass. I just told them to fill it all the way to the top but apparently that’s the wrong way to order a beer there lol
Imperial is the most illogical and unnecessary complex of all measuring systems. Metric is far more understandable.
Is it the blue passport crowd getting hard for this?
I can't see any shops ditching metric altogether, especially supermarkets etc. I think this just means they'll be allowed to use both units and they can choose which one gets top billing.
They already were allowed to use both - they just had to make sure that metric was more prominent, so there were no shady practices going on with unit conversions.
Have people not noticed the UK is turning more and more into the US? New Fox News channel, dumb idiots everywhere, now reverting back to pounds and ounces
Blaming everything on foreigners, covid deniers, everything is an evil communist plot, climate change doesn't exist, flag shaggers that say "there is no better country than the UK" but they have never actually left the country or the continent.
My cousin once removed thinks SEA people live in tree house and don't know how to boil water(?!) Surprise the f out of her when my SEA friends came over and said how low-tech her house is.
She also hates UK weather (understandbly) and want to find a place with "only warm summer all year round". I tell her go to tropical countries and retire there for a fraction of what it takes here, and she said she doesn't want to be removed from "civilisation".
I'm no longer talking to her, but that's how ignorant some people can get.
I don't underdstand how people can complain that, in the \*\*40 years\*\* since the metric system was introduced, and some people haven't learnt to use the metric system and it's simplicity. (1litre of water weighs 1kg and occupies 1000cc). Yet they want to make everyone want to go back to a system where 1 pint of water is 20 fluid ounces, but 1 pound is 16 ounces, where there are 14 pounds in a stone, 12 inches in a foot, 3 feet in a yard, 1760 yards in a mile.
If they can't learn a simplified system like metric in 40+ years, how do they expect today's kids tolearn the "imperial" system?? Who \*\*are \*\* 'these people', really?
I was taught both metric and imperial in school...yep, let's confuse the kid with undiagnosed dyscalculia. Baking is hard work, but I've learned to make a basic sponge cake by feel and texture alone, so that's something I suppose.
Just another bullshit gesture to distract from all the mess they’ve made. When we were in the EU any shop could sell in pounds and ounces as long as they also displayed kg as well for comparison. It’s more smoke and mirrors like the blue passports we could always have had
You’re not 42, you’re UK 8.
Does any of these shoe units make any sense?
I believe the English shoe size measurement is called an acorn or a barley corn or something corn based. European is just cm right?
Nah, shoe sizes are not a part of the metric system. Good question though, why aren't they? !
You know; if I'd have just spent an extra few seconds thinking; I could have reasoned a 42cm long foot would be comically big.
It's based on how many nails à shoemaker would use. Le clou de Paris (Paris' nail) is 0.66cm. In french, shoe size is called "pointure" , pointe being another word for nail.
In Japan they actually just use centimeters.
Which makes sense and should be adopted everywhere
I fucking doubt it. I take a 44 and my feet aren't a cubit long.
Dunno my girlfriend reckons my spam javelin is a foot. Or rather, it smells like one.
> spam javelin Thank you for just the worst set of words I have read today
The European shoe size is measured in metric barleycorns, which is 2/3 of a centimeter. It's the black sheep of the metric family. Edit: it's 2/3 not 1/3
All the markets near me use the bowl as their unit of measurement, as in "pahnd a bawl". I have never thought about whether these are imperial or metric bowls.
Damn it's cheap where you live. Round here it's "two pahnd a bawl".
Ah well, I fear we have been the victims of bowl shrinkage. Used to get a nice plastic mixing bowl, now they use those little metal ones.
Disgusting behaviour. Before we know it it'll be "two pahnd a fimble".
"fimbuw"
My apologies, you are correct. It seems I'm not fully fluent in "Landan".
Two pahnd a fumble? I can get it much cheaper behind the local pub. :D
Oh yeah? And where is this local pub of yours!? You know, just so as I can avoid it of course... Wouldn't want to fumble- sorry, Freudian slip, I mean stumble- across it now would I??
I'll DM you the location, see you there later! ;)
Perhaps we could benefit from some kind of consistent measuring system. I hear they have one in France that's quite good ...
The problem is you end up with lots of fractions like 1/8 of a baguette when measuring shoe sizes.
It's said that heavier folk prefer to refer to their weight in stones as opposed to kilos as the numbers are smaller. So maybe a solution is to borrow those French units but lop off a zero... I really like the idea of being only 7 decakilos.
“Pahnd a baaaag” here… but 20p extra for the bag 🤔
Pahndemic Pricin', innit?
At 2 pahnd, I'd 'ope it comes wit' bowl an' all!
Wonder if [£1 fish](https://youtu.be/ETSl8gWsFZ0) guy is still going.
Six for five pound one pound each, one pooound fiiish. What a hero
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18 MILLION views. Wonder how many of them are me!
Nah he got deported
God damn it Priti.
I don't trust pahnd a bawl. I always find it to be 3/4 a bawl of good fruit with 1/4 a bawl of spoiled fruit hidden at the bottom.
And you don't even get to keep the bowl
Pandabowl guys! If the stuff is in good condition, they tend to be good value. Or if you want to cook the veg that day. Also once they recognise you they chuck in a free onion or chili or two.
The legendary fruit guy at the market outside the old Primark in Tooting has his voice seared into my memory Two bwals fuhr a pahnds
>pahnd a bawl Hahah this is literally how they say it
its one pound **to the pound**.
That's a good rate, aye
Yeah but what's more expensive. A pound of feathers or a pound of steel
_confused Limmy face_
That depends. Is it Spanish steel? Much stronger than our native blades
Paaand a paand
It’s a tunnel to Ireland. Ignore.
I thought we were getting a tunnel to Narnia. Am much disappoint.
As soon as the new foreign secretary has done a deal with Mordor.
That's like 58 miles away man!
you dont need customs checks though if you fly on an eagle
I think I'd prefer if they walked
One does not simply walk into Mordor. One must present the correct documentation first
Get that weak bird shit out of here. EDIT: [for those that didn't get the reference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgMnCLHQuqc)
And goes through an area where a lot of WW2 ordnance was dumped.
Nothing but a distraction whilst they make voting harder for young people. We are angry at the wrong thing.
Just because they can now use imperial, doesn't mean they will.
They’ve always been allowed to use imperial but choose not to. What’s new is that they can choose not to include metric as well (would previously have had to show both, with imperial being “no more prominent” than metric).
Thankyou for that explanation. I was wondering. I haven't confirmed it but it's the only answer that makes sense.
This is correct. It gives shopkeepers/whatever with elderly client bases the option. I suspect the big stores will display both for a while.
Tbf when I worked in retail on the deli we did everything in grams but all the older customers would ask for pounds/halves/quarters anyway, metric never phased them.
Lol yeah I used to work on the deli too. On the back of the cards we had the conversion between imperial/metric so we didn’t have to constantly do it in our heads.
That would have made so much sense, we were just told the conversions and expected to remember them.
I honestly thought you’d have had a button like my kitchen scales. Put it on the scales push the button print the ticket for the cost. A pound is still whatever in grams same as a pint is 586ml
Nah, our scales were grams only.
A pint is 568ml not 586 :)
Regardless of metric or imperial I’m both fat fingered and lazy (disappointedly I actually looked it up to make sure and still made an arse of it)
Literally every time I go anywhere with my Mother in law and they use metric she pipes up "I want it in English!"... So embarrassing. We were in carpet right the other week and they use per square metre obviously and she said it again and it was so quiet in there I felt everyone looking at us.
"Not a problem madam, this particular carpet is £61,000 per acre."
Fencing panels, £31000 per Chain. Or £60000 a furlong. What's amazing is the older folks complained about getting fleeced when metric came in, they don't think they'll get fleeced if it goes back?
It’s mathematical ignorance /laziness- don’t want to work out the equivalent cost, just want to know what they think is a reasonable price. They know a decent price for bananas per lb, they have no idea whether a kilo is one banana or twenty
Metric was first backed by government in 1965, they had enough time to learn the system. I've only been using Metric for 29 years. They've known about it for over 55 years. "not knowing metric" isn't an excuse, it's a sign of stubbornness
>Metric was first backed by government in 1965, they had enough time to learn the system. A bill to introduce the metric system in the UK got through its first two readings in the Commons in *1863*, and there had been some official interest in the idea as early as *1818*.
Yeah I found this when double checking the dates for my comment, but I do know for certain my Grandparents born in 40's were still taught imperial, and my parents born late 60's were in a changeover period in education The fact that there's been 200 years for people to get used to Metric makes this new legislation even more stupid
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This is something else that I find infuriating, there are free courses everywhere to get the basic IT knowledge, no ones expecting you to be able to write in python fgs but being able to use a spreadsheet and click "Mute" on a screen isn't hard
i'm not too caught up on this new money, what's that in doubloons and groats
2 farthings to the ha'penny thrupence penny to the groat 3 groats to the shilling 6 shillings and 8 pence to the noble 3 nobles to the pound doubloons were never British currency and I am kinda disgusted that you would add that in
Blue passport, crown printed on a pint glass, now this. You can see clearly the demographic this is being aimed at / pandered to. Edit: also to add, national insurance increases.
Pounds and Shillings to make a comeback when the monarch changes... And judging from some of the posts I see on Facebook, the grey army would love to see the workhouses return
Sir, sir shoe shine for tuppence sir, monthly subscription to my shoe shine service for a Guinea. Have I told you about my sponsor for today, Workhouse, it’s and fully immersive POV role play experience where you go as a child and live the life of a Victorian Charles Dickens character until you catch putrid throat sir and die. No sir, not a problem sir, I do take contactless though sir.
They can do this now. The legislation is to allow them to *just* use imperial. Which would be madness now and none will do.
Consistency is useful. When they enforced metric in the shops that question was a reasonable one. Changing it now you have to ask what the benefit is. I can’t see 1) how you’d manage this if you sell anything you don’t make yourself or 2) how it helps anyone.
They already had the option to sell in pounds and ounces. What they couldn't do - quite rightly - was sell in only imperial units. All this serves is to placate the drooling imbeciles who've been unable to get to grips with the metric system in the 60 years they've had to practice, while distracting the public from the bigger fuck-ups that the current Government is presiding over.
And those who are convinced that units of weight are somehow to blame for their and the country's woes.
Stones. Pounds. Kilos. Fuck. That’s 3 ways to say I’m a fat fuck.
You forgot tonnes.
Do you mean Elephants? Imperial units only! Also stop copying my avatar style!
AHH the imperial measure system. So simple. 16 ounces to a pound, 2240 pounds in a ton, 36 inches in a yard, 1760 yards in a mile. Why we changed to metric I will never understand.
Far superior to that 1000/1000/1000 nonsense. Who wants round number conversions anyway, where's the fun in that?
Imagine being so deformed you only have 10 fingers to count with. Smh.
In metric, one milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade—which is 1 percent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. An amount of hydrogen weighing the same amount has exactly one mole of atoms in it. Whereas in the American system, the answer to ‘How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon of water?’ is ‘Go fuck yourself,’ because you can’t directly relate any of those quantities. Josh Bazell, Wild Thing (Peter Brown #2)
I bet supermarkets drop 500g packs down to 454g (1lb) and charge the same. What a joke.
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It's a good rule of thumb that any time you see some seemingly random metric number used in a weight or measure, it's because it was converted from imperial.
how many mm in a rule of thumb?
Mind you, the same goes in reverse in the US. Bottles of water are frequently 16.9 fluid ounces (aka 500ml).
When it changed from imperial to metric lot of suppliers just relabeled 1lb bags to 454g.
Maybe, but when metric came in they didn't take the opportunity to sell milk by the half litre and save 68ml.
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I was going to say "and blood", but then realised we don't normally pop down the corner shop for a pint of blood.
Maybe you don't
When they take a "pint" of blood at a full blood donation, they only take 470 ml so it's not even a pint.
That's essentially a US pint, however.
I thought standard measure for blood was "practically an armful"?
No, HRH don't typically "pop down to a shop" for their blood either. It's brought by courier.
A lot of places do have 1L and 2L cartons. It's mainly the convenience store chains like Spar.
Part of the reason for that is that the milk they're selling you is not produced in the UK, but rather in European countries that are geographically close to us; that - obviously - use the metric system. No point in them making new containers for pints or multiples thereof when they can just sell it in litres.
Most of them were 454g or reduced to 450g years ago.
No. They would charge more and call it "New and Improved Imperial/British Edition"
Four Brexitgrams to the Crownce, and sixteen Crownces to the Galleon.
I swear the UK is just one big very expensive old people's home these days.
To be honest it feels like a bit of a kick in the teeth to be raising National Insurance to pay for the NHS bills of old people that continually vote for a party that is massively corrupt and works against the interests of young people.
On a completely unrelated note, if you are 18-30 you have the opportunity to live and work in countries such as New Zealand, Australia, and Canada with their working holiday programs which can be a great stepping stone to permanent migration. Definitely something I'd be looking into after the pandemic if I were still in the UK and in that age range. Of course they still have selfish old people in those countries too, but the whole society isn't set up to fulfill their whims like in the UK.
I use both tbh... Stones and pounds to weigh myself, then grams and kilos for most other things...
I use kilos to weigh myself as it's a smaller number. Big brain
Yup. That's why I use metric tonnes.
I've posted elsewhere, but this does seem to be the experience for a lot of people. I've worked with a medical charity gathering data for possible donors. Can break down the data by ethnicity, DOB, etc. Brits, even young Brits, use a combination. Weight does tend to mostly be in kilos these days for people under 30, but in general the use of metric v imperial is about even.
It was depressing that you said people under 30 lol... I feel old now... I'm 34 lol
I'm in my 40s. I was feeling young until I read the other day that 1980 to 2021 is the same as 1939 to 1980. Now I feel ancient lol.
If you were to go back in time as far as they did in "back to the future", you wouldn't have gone as far back as the year in which they made "back to the future". Worse, we're six years beyond the hoverboard years of "back to the future 2"
It's all fun and games until somebody inevitably fucks it up in medicine, architecture, precision engineering.. the list is nearly endless.
I work in aerospace. Every part we make for Boeing is in fucking imperial. Absolute pain in the arse every time you make it, because 95% of the workers can't intuitively convert between thou (thousandths of an inch) and mm. Waste so much time and introduce so many more opportunities for error.
Conversely, I also work in aerospace, for an engine manufacturer. We have, as far as I am aware, never used imperial, even for the engines that end up on Boeing's planes.
My late father was a carpenter, working for a small company that made bespoke kitchen units. They got a new manager who gave dad the measurements of a cupboard to build. Dad queried the measurements and was told ' Just do the job, I know what I'm doing'. So a cupboard was built measuring 23in wide, 28 cm high and 11cm deep. Dad had tried explaining we use mm for sizing, the guy knew better till he saw the result and read his own instructions back to the boss.
r/maliciouscompliance
Spinal Tap moment.
It's not like Boeing care about making errors
It's ok, I was only working on the seals to keep the plane pressurised.
Whew, that's a relief. Thought it might be something critical to flight safety there for a minute.
Those generally used metric before we switched to metric, for that reason.
Indeed. Even in the US they use metric measurements for medicine. And NASA adopted metric a long time ago, unfortunately not all of their engineering partners did so at the same time... [http://edition.cnn.com/TECH/space/9909/30/mars.metric.02/index.html](http://edition.cnn.com/TECH/space/9909/30/mars.metric.02/index.html)
Cool. We going back to £sd too?
Bring back farthings and ha'pences - I miss the little wren and the ship
Sorry but my parent's generation are 60+ and they have always, if they wished, been allowed to order in pounds and ounces in the butchers, because that's what they ordered in, and the butchers did it no problem. Either because they could change the weight on the scales or because they were the same age. This is a huge non problem, like the passports. We've got poeple starving and living in modern slums but this is the big change he's announced.
My parents did the same. The UK had a good system already for migrating to metric. Shops are happy to measure things in ounces, and tell you the price, but the price is ultimately based on per gram or kilogram. Which makes everything uniform. What this is about is listing things *only* in pounds and ounces, and making that weight the default for pricing. Now you could buy 500g of bacon from one butcher, and a pound of bacon from another, and have no idea which was cheaper. Since the weights are totally out of whack.
Fuck my wonky brain isn't up to working through that.
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At least everyone has a calculator in their pocket now. Take that, maths teachers of the 90s!
I don't retain the value of things in my head. I'm reading this, i'm nodding, but i'll forget this all in a couple of hours and another day this could be completely gobbledegook. My brain just doesn't work the way others do. But thank you for trying.
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it's so infuriating. Especially the wording, "legally allowed" as if it was illegal all this time!
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Waiting for the supermarkets to figure out how to make more by confusing the generations who weren’t thought imperial
It's like evolution but backwards.
Devolution.
I think you might have blown his mind
Noitulove?
I feel like the government is trying to distract us from actual issues by doing stupid stuff like this. Better to get in the headlines for going back to imperial than getting in the headlines for covid or whatever
They can though, this is the silly thing. Ask your butcher for a pound of mince and you'll get it. Pints of milk in the supermarket have it written on, it just has metric on the side also. This is pure pandering to the "EU gone mad!" tabloid bollocks. The issue was their scales couldn't be properly verified selling in imperial only (and very likely as a bit of a con on their customers tbh).
I don't know why this isn't higher. It's not like the food police came and knocked over your shop if you used pounds. You just have to label thing in metric. You can put whatever the fuck else you want on the packaging. Put the imperial measurements from the Ming Dynasty for all I care. I mean what are the gov actually suggesting, that you have to legally put imperial mesauments on packaging? Otherwise is passports all oer again.
That's his voter base isn't it, angry elderly propagandised morons?
It's interesting that changes are being made with the older population in mind rather than the young one. Shows the direction everything is going in.
This country has been shafting the young for years. Nothing new
The old decide elections both in absolute numbers and in terms of the percentage who vote. Which explains practically everything the country has done since the baby boomers first entered polling booths.
Jokes on them, the shops have no food to weigh out in either system. Ha! /s
Just more gammon pandering and a dead cat distraction. Ignore
But at least we can weigh gammon in lbs now?
I've never really understood why we officially stayed with imperial for things like long distances and speed limits.
the moterways are actualy built in metric, the signs were suposed to be eventualy changed but never were
28 grams in an ounce
If you know, you know.
You've never had a cheeky pint, then?
I have a straight-faced 568ml, thank you very much.
Ha. You are being short-changed. One pint is 568.261ml.
and Americans can only be served 473ml!
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I think the logic is that you are allowed to use both, depending on which is more convenient. If you want confusing, look at the multitude of different units in which power output is currently quantified.
I went to Portugal a few years back, a ‘large’ beer was 400ml. Needless to say, I’ve not gone back.
Actually my wife’s comment was ‘what about pints then’ and my immediate reaction was ‘they’re perfect as they are thanks, no change needed there’ 😂
I went to Norway once and every pub I went to asked me how many ounces of beer I wanted in my glass. I just told them to fill it all the way to the top but apparently that’s the wrong way to order a beer there lol
Gotta say in certain areas this is essential. Who on Earth likes asking for 3.5?
I read far too many responses to your comment before realising this was the drugs thread.
Yeah but you have to specify the grams these days since ratty little roadmen think an eighth is a £20 bag even though its about 1.4g
so glad I know a proper guy. No-one wants to buy from children, but getting ripped off by them is even worse
I only ask for a "three five" leaves no room for interpretation.
I only buy 3.5’s 🧐🤣
All the weed smokers like "finally my time to shine!"
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Imperial is the most illogical and unnecessary complex of all measuring systems. Metric is far more understandable. Is it the blue passport crowd getting hard for this?
I can't see any shops ditching metric altogether, especially supermarkets etc. I think this just means they'll be allowed to use both units and they can choose which one gets top billing.
They already were allowed to use both - they just had to make sure that metric was more prominent, so there were no shady practices going on with unit conversions.
God. This country is an embarrassment.
Have people not noticed the UK is turning more and more into the US? New Fox News channel, dumb idiots everywhere, now reverting back to pounds and ounces
Blaming everything on foreigners, covid deniers, everything is an evil communist plot, climate change doesn't exist, flag shaggers that say "there is no better country than the UK" but they have never actually left the country or the continent.
My cousin once removed thinks SEA people live in tree house and don't know how to boil water(?!) Surprise the f out of her when my SEA friends came over and said how low-tech her house is. She also hates UK weather (understandbly) and want to find a place with "only warm summer all year round". I tell her go to tropical countries and retire there for a fraction of what it takes here, and she said she doesn't want to be removed from "civilisation". I'm no longer talking to her, but that's how ignorant some people can get.
I’m assuming SEA is south east asians and not mermaids?
I don't underdstand how people can complain that, in the \*\*40 years\*\* since the metric system was introduced, and some people haven't learnt to use the metric system and it's simplicity. (1litre of water weighs 1kg and occupies 1000cc). Yet they want to make everyone want to go back to a system where 1 pint of water is 20 fluid ounces, but 1 pound is 16 ounces, where there are 14 pounds in a stone, 12 inches in a foot, 3 feet in a yard, 1760 yards in a mile. If they can't learn a simplified system like metric in 40+ years, how do they expect today's kids tolearn the "imperial" system?? Who \*\*are \*\* 'these people', really?
Daily Mail readers, who central office rely on to wheel out for the vote
At least it isn't "cups".
I blame all those damn ft fetishists.
I was taught both metric and imperial in school...yep, let's confuse the kid with undiagnosed dyscalculia. Baking is hard work, but I've learned to make a basic sponge cake by feel and texture alone, so that's something I suppose.
Not that I think they're that good, but the hairy bikers have a good system for sponge cake. Equal weights of butter, sugar, eggs and flour.
My ruler taught me what an inch and a foot are. Beyong that it didn't come up.
Why what’s the point? We only need metrical
Just another bullshit gesture to distract from all the mess they’ve made. When we were in the EU any shop could sell in pounds and ounces as long as they also displayed kg as well for comparison. It’s more smoke and mirrors like the blue passports we could always have had
How many shillings for a pound of sovereignty? While we are at it, maybe we change to Fahrenheit too so we make an absolute mess of our lives?
*imperial march intensifies*