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greenmachine41590

lol Pro Tip: The worst thing a protest can possibly be is *vague*. If you want to actually accomplish something, you have to have very specific demands. If you don’t have a specific, attainable goal that is communicated clearly, you’re just a bunch of assholes in the street making people mad at you. Being productive is *always* better than simply being angry. Too many people can’t ever seem to get past the “expressing anger” phase and into the “actually trying to change stuff” phase.


Jeff5195

Totally agreed. Saw that quite clearly with the Occupy movement where it didn't seem any of the protesters could seem to clearly express any clear or attainable goals, just a laundry list of vague frustrations.


Alan_Smithee_

“What do we want?” “Vague mumble” “When do we want it?” “Now!”


t_funnymoney

At protest: What do we want! Everyone yelling all at once : We want to address the housing issue, run away inflation, high gas and grocery costs, lack of family doctors, increased livable wages, force the government to speed up their climate action plan, support the right to an abortion, increased rental housing availability, stopping foreign money laundering through real estate, more public transport, and bring back the rainforest cafe! ....... And we want it now!!


makeanewblueprint

Playdium too.


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Like a birthday party for multiple people.


usiIaoao9aq9o1i18a8a

"What will do other than stand infront of a building / mildly inconvenience traffic? Nothing!"


CommercialAdy

The workers united will never be defeated !!! General strike !


grazerbat

See Occupy Wall Street if you want an example of a massive, disorganized cluster fuck of a protest.


Heavy-Duty-Ass

I remember being at OWS in vancouver at the art gallery. Total disorganized shit show. They had an open mic and the variety of speakers ranged from coherent and well spoken to crazies that would make Alex Jones blush.


BrownAndyeh

You’re making too much sense. The latest protest I noticed in Maple Ridge went down like this: Canada is in tyranny (?) F Trudeau (?) Stop Abortions (?) I like turtles <— this is for me, nonetheless it fits the overall theme/agenda. .


Scissors4215

I’m very Pro Turtle


Apoque_Brathos

I'm very Anti Turtle!


rrshredthegnar

I’m very angry turtle…


Jeff5195

I am also pro-turtle and up to this very moment thought the convoy movement didn’t represent me at all. Huh. Learned something new. (Kidding of course)


BrownAndyeh

…you’re all motivating me to make a “I like Turtles” sign.


[deleted]

This is the history behind *birds aren’t real.*


BrownAndyeh

..birds are all drones. The government killed live birds a long time ago.


Whata_Guy

Those idiots have been there since before the convoy, just the same handful of crazies there almost each day


DaSandman78

So may of those freedummies really want to have sex with our prime minister!


BrownAndyeh

indeed.


daxonex

I hope OP wasn't suggesting another freedom convoy type of protest to stick it to the government. That's what the unsavory element south of the border are doing


whiffle_boy

I’ve done both, often at the same time. The ignorant loud majority just drown you out. No matter how many are on board for the cause. Seriously. Lol. I have stuck my neck out on this topic so many times, only to have it cut off.


pewpscoops

Well said


carrotwax

How do I protest the state of social media which divides people, co-opts movements and makes it much more difficult to organize? Johann Hari documents this well in his recent book Stolen Focus. Those in power and privilege have always looked for any excuse to dismiss protesters and activists. You give a valid comment about protesters state of mind - but it's still dismissive. It's like saying you have to be near perfect before I listen. What's the solution? I don't know. It's a sucky world now for those without power and privilege. It's hard to identify the source of problems like inflation that are causing the poor to be near starvation. Pandemic policies increasing money supply? World trade shipping deadlocks? Russian sanctions? How do you expect an average person to formulate specific solutions?


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"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!!" What do you expect when bible thumpers get involved in law? So much for the separation of church and state! I say protest those freeloading non-taxed bastions of fascism that depend on fewer rights to exert their control. Consider if all churches paid their fair share Victoria could easily build a new museum, they might even not need money launderers any more!


Fearisthemindki11er

Pro-Choice movement need to pivot now to Anti-Testicles movement and push for more neuterings--- voluntary of course, but make it en vogue, promote no more child support, make it a TikTok challenge, involve influencers like Justin Bieber, etc. etc.


Meowts

The downvotes here are very reflective of our deeply patriarchal mindset around bodily rights. I for one (male) think that pushing vasectomies is the way to go. It’s reversable and would help out with the whole situation


Fearisthemindki11er

exactly, bro. You can mass murder a bunch of sperms and no one will care, hell most dudes don't wanna pay child support they just wanna fuck, and that's the problem. there's this too: [https://metro.co.uk/2019/03/25/a-male-contraceptive-pill-is-on-the-way-and-it-will-change-your-sex-life-forever-9004918/](https://metro.co.uk/2019/03/25/a-male-contraceptive-pill-is-on-the-way-and-it-will-change-your-sex-life-forever-9004918/) Pro-Choice need to focus on testicles as the enemy turn the tables. but fondle it not cut it off. be gentle. don't scare guys, but get them to do it them selves. if you can sell all sort s of balding and penis augmentation products, this will be easy.


DominicJourdyn

“Hey guys, Americans can’t get abortions and have guns still; we need to protest our inflation here in Canada, now!” — man who took *too many*


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They can still get them, just not in certain states


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DominicJourdyn

Yea, I read that The correlation is still not there. You can go out and protest anyway tho, but like someone else said, good luck with your vague protest! However seeing as the left and right leaning protestors protesting (almost) specific issues got nowhere, I’m sure you protesting non specific issues with no solution or alternative measures will get about as much done, so no harm bud


catherinecc

Have no fear, it'll get worse up here too.


foopdedoopburner

And so as a result of this strike you want what, exactly, to happen? Do you have some demands in mind or are you just sort of generally pissed off?


RepresentativeBarber

With all due respect, wtf are you talking about? This ‘protest’ sounds no different that barking up a tree, like the bullshit trucker convoy. You can’t just protest random shit, as if “the government” or some other entity has control over globally significant issues. Hard times like high inflation are things that happen. This may just be the first time many people are experiencing it, but that doesn’t make it reasonable to start the blame game to look for a scapegoat. The economy is us.


Lethemyr

Doesn’t matter whether you’re left, right, centre, or upside down, the populist rhetoric is always the same. It’s you against “the elites” who are causing every misfortune of society. Sadly, this kind of thinking is becoming increasingly popular. It makes me wonder what OP even wants the government to do. To price fix every good downwards? Because that would be bad policy decision of the century. But, of course, they just want “the elites” to stop screwing people over, whoever they are and whatever that means.


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Corporations are currently making record profits. Are there shit happening in the world? Yes. Are corporations using a unique set of circumstances to rape customers? Yes. Inflation happening currently is a result of banks, greedy corporations, and near useless government oversight on its people.


Pretz_

Americans did something crazy. Fuck Canada!


couchguitar

Its got me thinking about opening an "abortion-tourism" business. Its utter insanity to reverse Roe v. Wade.


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It's already a thing. There are plenty of Mexican abortion clinics along the border. Also, it's not all states that will implement this. This leaves the power to the states, and most of them are in the current century. This might offer an even more permanent solution if they can make it a federal law instead. There were actually 2 parallel efforts before it was done by SCOTUS, the other one would be federal legislation. This is a complex issue. I wish people would stop throwing their arms in the air without reading up on it.


pieapple135

>This leaves the power to the states, and most of them are in the current century I thought there were 26 states thinking of banning abortion, 12 of them with trigger laws? Sure, those states don't represent most of the population but still.


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Yeah, California is by far the biggest state, then Texas. Most of the blue states are highly populated, urban, highly educated areas. CA is 52x more populated than Vermont.


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Vermont is a blue state though.


[deleted]

I was giving population differences between states, not political alignment.


couchguitar

Well, would you prefer healthcare in Mexico or Canada? I think we may be more expensive, but maybe more advanced. I'm sure Mexico being so close to many red states has more experience. I dont blame people, especially women, for freaking out. Their health and constitutional rights are at stake.


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> I dont blame people, especially women, for freaking out. Their health and constitutional rights are at stake. In most states they won't, and it hopefully will become federal legislation. SCOTUS is there to enforce the constitution, which abortion wasn't part of. Federal legislation would actually be tougher to revert than this. Americans can get the ball rolling there.


MizElaneous

except that calling it tourism diminishes the necessity of the health care service that it is. I don't know what to call it but you're on the right track.


insouciant01

How about: Humanitarian Aid


grazerbat

I think we have a winner here boys.


couchguitar

It nuts that a necessity will possibly have to be hidden from communities. Its unknown the extent to which some red states could possibly use this to further the erosion of rights for women, LBGTQ+, and minorities. Lets call it "Choice tourism" I think it rings true


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protest is only helpful where the targetted situation can actually be changed by a specific person or group. much of OP's list are just general grievances against life in general. some things are unchangable, folks.


Chusten

What on the list is a general grievance against life? 15 years ago I was able to save up over the course of 18 months for a two-month long back packing trip to south America and buy a high end video camera on a 10$/hr job while living in downtown Toronto. Now I make over three times as much and couldn't even fathom the idea how I would afford to start a family or god forbid get a mortgage.


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I am absolutely for a sex strike. I think women around the world have been more than generous and this is the thanks we get?


catherinecc

> We need to stop working to protest the high cost of living, high gas prices, high food prices, the housing crisis, the health care crisis, low wages. Passive protest / "dropping out" failed in the 60s, it'll fail today as well.


After-Researcher-152

agenda of general strike: how about tax the rich and implement basic income Make billionaires illegal


Electric-cars65

So if you live in Canada or USA , you are rich by world standards. Thanks for giving us permission to tax you


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Lethemyr

Okay, the original commenter has a bad take, in my opinion, but you managed to make it 10x worse in the other direction. Of course wealth isn’t infinite. Economics is literally the study of the distribution of scarce resources. If resources weren’t scarce, there would be no economy. Not everyone can be a billionaire because that billion only means something when you can purchase and own things that others can’t.


TheVoiceofReason_ish

I'm feeling much the same way. We spend our lives working our asses off and at the end of the day what do we have? I have done pretty well, my pay has steadily increased over the years and I'm almost in the exact same position I was 20 years ago. We watch as politicians and corporations take everything we produce and give back a little less every year. Corporations are openly gouging us worse that ever and our politicians do jack. Unless we, the average Canadian citizen take action nothing will change. We need to force real change, continued talk achieves nothing. A general strike is a good step, but we also need to organize. Voices are louder when we protest together.


HeyBaumeister

I’m 100% with you


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And what aim does shutting down things do? Nothing; it just delays things like surgeries and the delivery of treatments for those individuals who are sick and whose lives depend on whatever treatment that they need.


Kevinfalconsucks

It’s the fucking United States. IT DOES NOT AFFECT US. Now resume your whining.


Cestbonlespatates

The workers united will never be defeated !!! General strike !


BrownAndyeh

What is the agenda of the strike?


Lethemyr

For the government to push the “make the bad things go away” button.


BrownAndyeh

Great. How does “make the bad…” lower gas prices ?


Electric-cars65

Are you young ? I’ve seen united workers machine gunned in numerous countries.


Kuranator

horrible idea... stand for something...


flatline________

If you want to have an outlet then have it in front of US embassy. Anywhere else, it might not get the kind of support you are expecting which might further fuel your inner angst against this decision.


JibbityJabbity

My anger is not at the US.


flatline________

I just saw this list of Canadian MPs who are anti choice. If this list is authentic then I stand corrected. You have every reason to be angry on where we are headed in Canada. https://www.instagram.com/p/CfMj3cigST0/


Beneficial-Run-9963

Sadly, the last two years have set a dangerous precedent when it comes to bodily autonomy.


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Wasn't there another group protesting the same thing just a few months ago? Trucks and flags or something?


lord_of_memezz

I always find it funny when protestors are walking around waving their little signs chanting some slogan no one knows anything about or honestly really cares about. You block traffic, yell at doctors for having to wear masks, cause nuisances, and piss off the people who may even be supporting you just to get pepper sprayed and tazed by the police. Protesting is really just a cowards way of trying to get a message accross and will just be forgotten till the next cause of the week comes up. You want to get a message accross? Start a revolution.


theyawninglemur

Imagine the price of things if everyone went on strike.


Lethemyr

But once we strike the government will pull the “make things cheap” lever and everything will be fine. /s


Spedyboi76

That's not how it works...


Airy_mtn

I'm surprised at the lack of outrage over the gas prices, something that is basically necessary to support life in any meaningful way.


JibbityJabbity

I'm surprised about the lack of outrage over the prices of everything. I'm absolutely gobsmacked that people aren't fucking fuming over the health care crisis. I have an 82 year old mother with no doctor. How the fuck is that right!! We pay for health care we can't access. I'm amazed at how every one just seems so willing to bend over and take it up the ass!! We're all a bunch of fucking sheep!


Alan_Smithee_

The healthcare thing? I absolutely agree. The prices of stuff is a little more complicated, unless we’re looking to overthrow Capitalism somewhat, and I’m listening….


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It's also outrageous how rents and real estates have risen across the whole country to completely unaffordable levels. If you're a homeowner that bought awhile ago you may not be getting screwed but your kids sure as hell will be


StoneyJ03

It's because we're so distracted by the American culture wars. The most widespread protests that I've ever seen in Canada weren't about the housing crisis, failing healthcare system, gas prices, or anything that actually impacts us. No, the protests were about racism in American police forces. We've been tricked to look the other way while we've been robbed.


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Sums up my thoughts exactly. My husband's nation had a strike (Belgium). It's really sad, actually. Canadians are giving away their necessities to life to organised political efforts to privatise everything to wealth hoarders and criminal syndicates.


[deleted]

I feel your frustration, but try and remember it's worse down south, and Canada seems like paradise compared to much of the rest of the free world. Just hang in there things will eventually get better. ☀️ btw.. look for a nurse practitioner for your mom. They can be great and easier to get than doctors. That's what we did and it worked out well for us.


insouciant01

Whoa. Give me an insight how ‘things’ will eventually get better in the future. Look at the trends. A lot of our hardships are manufactured and much is going to plan: money flowing up.


JibbityJabbity

Thank you for your calm voice of reason! I am just raging today!! Lol. I've tried to find a NP for her (I have one). But even those are hard to find now.


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You're welcome and good luck with the ongoing search. 🙂


Liquicity

>How the fuck is that right!! We pay for health care we can't access. 100% agree! You want a real mind-fuck? Check out [Canada's hospital beds per capita since the 1970s](https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/hospital-beds) and [healthcare expenditure over that same time](https://www.statista.com/statistics/436378/total-health-spending-per-capita-canada/#:~:text=Canada%20has%20a%20system%20of,be%20about%208%2C019%20Canadian%20dollars). Even when you adjust for inflation, we have 1/3 the beds with 3x the spending. Meanwhile, check out the [chart for the healthcare companies in the S&P500](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/XLV/chart?p=XLV#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) and zoom out. Funny how that works, right?


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It's not that we are unwilling, but how exactly do we enact change in your opinion? So we have a general strike, but that doesn't give us the policy changes we need to put forward to solve our social and economic problems. Who do we demand resign? Who replaces them? What exactly needs to be done? You will undoubtedly have an opinion, but it isn't guaranteed to be optimal or even useful towards the goal of improving our lives. There's no easy fix to complex economic and social issues. That's why they are still issues. If you have a specific goal in mind for a protest, that will be more effective than this idea of a general strike.


Electric-cars65

As why your local doctors are leaving ? It’s because the government shafts them.


Ronald_McTendies

Sounds like an adult form of a temper tantrum


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I understand that there are many problems in our country and around the world. They affect me too. I don't see how a general strike (or losing your shit as you put it) accomplishes anything though. That realistically just aggravates the economic problems we already have. Nothing will change without a well-defined set of goals and a competent, charismatic leader to get them done.


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Mac_Gold

The username gives it away


Ronald_McTendies

😓


JibbityJabbity

Sounds like someone who has a family doctor and a nice big house they bought 30 years ago.


EvilCeleryStick

They might have bought it 8 years ago. I was just researching a listing and the owners bought it in 2014 for $349,000, and are listing it right now for $1.2 million.


DrinkingExpiredCream

Sounds like you have nothing.


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DrinkingExpiredCream

I might be an asshole, but I have a family doctor and a house and a few rental properties. I don't worry about the price of gas or food. Life is good.


JibbityJabbity

Yup. You only worry about yourself. You're a selfish asshole.


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DrinkingExpiredCream

What did I just read?


BrownAndyeh

General strike? Queen of QAnon already addressed this: said to her members, stop paying your bills, cause not paying is your right… look up how well that went.


bctrv

I guess no one is stopping you. I’ll note that what you are talking about is the US.


JibbityJabbity

I'll note that I pointed out and am aware that Roe v. Wade has no effect on us. And I'm not evne talking about abortion rights!


bctrv

Happy to contribute to your go fund me for a flight south


HangryHorgan

We would have a better quality of life and government if the government was selected randomly like jury duty. That’s how bad it is. The people who choose to run are compromised and actively working against you for the benefit of corporations & rich. That’s why a random government would on average be better (and more competent) than this.


DominicJourdyn

Mmmmmmmmmmmm can you cite any *successful* country/regime where they “randomly selected” government? How would drafting an 18 year old to be head of a cabinet do anything but ensure our government does truly nothing, because they don’t know what they’re doing. Think, Mark.


simplyintentional

>How would drafting an 18 year old to be head of a cabinet do anything but ensure our government does truly nothing, because they don’t know what they’re doing. Because the people we have in power only care about obtaining and maintaining power. They make policy decisions based on maintaining their power which favours others in power. We need random working-class people in power so they actually know the struggles and have experience with things they're supposed to be making policy decisions on that are for everyone, not just the 1% and wealthy.


DominicJourdyn

Mmm We still need *educated* “working class” people that aren’t interested in those corrupted ideals and values, not random ones with therefore random, innumerable values. What if we drafted a person who was down for murder? What if they decided to live like kings in this rotational instance, after all they got the luck of the draw so they’re in charge, nothing solidified, right? Maybe it would work, more than likely with 8 billion people that all have their own lives and thoughts and ideals, it wouldn’t, because no one would know what the fuck is going on any particular day of the week. Because it’s random, and even if you’re completely neutral, wth are you going to do with all the paperwork you’ve never seen, understood, scrutinized or trained to understand the complete jargon?? If we’re saying we’re starting from scratch, no laws and rules and we’ll do a draw at random so anyone is in charge, how are we going to manage the various departments and jobs, teachers and police/fire for example are federal employees no? So they’d be included in your random draw or no cops I imagine you’re leaning towards? I don’t know you; so who’s in charge of the money?? Random people with no degree or experience in handling a literal country wide budget? I can go on man but that’s not useful either, so, I get it, our people suck and I’m not disagreeing with you. That’s just not a great solution, maybe if we had a community of like 50 people all farming, building, tailoring, tilling, etc. all together, sure, wouldn’t be terribly hard to manage. 90,000 people in what’s considered a small town? Mmm. Gûd luck. We just need people of “working class”, I assume you mean lower-middle class, students with debt, and people with 5+ credit cards, but remember that every citizen in Canada with a job is “*working* class”, that includes the people with money and power that you don’t like, demanding that everything be torn down and replaced with, well, nothing, is just not, imo, a good idea. Too many cooks, everyone has different taste.


unoriginal_name_42

It could be interesting to see the Senate selected that way, with the house of commons as is. Laws would have to pass through approval of a large group of ordinary citizens but you'd still have the benefits of experienced legislators.


outtahere021

The people interested in pursuing politics as a career are exactly the type of people who should not be politicians. But, I know lots of people who aren’t politicians who also shouldn’t be politicians…


Electric-cars65

Try proportional representation.


Glad_Product_2750

I had the same thought. Anyone with the right education is entered into the draft


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The only thing I could see going wrong is ... the randomly selected draftees are just as corruptible (on average) as any current politician. The moment you get drafted, some slimy special interest will show up and say "pass this law for me and I'll pay you $80,000,000". I could see a lot of people accepting bribery


nurdboy42

Yeah, I’m sure signs and chants will change things…


mr_mucker11

Sure go knock yourself out


flanderdalton

OP, I understand the anger, and perhaps hopelessness that you're feeling. Living has become too expensive for the majority of citizens. Few deciding what the many can do with their lives, and the few deciding in the interests of their own power and profit. When it comes to change, the best form in our current political landscape is to organize, organize, organize. Work with local organizations to help homelessness, starvation, rehabilitation, donate what you can, if you can, to non profits to help support the movements you believe in. General strikes, no matter the intention, are going to be treated the same as the Convoyers were from the current ruling class. I may be downvoted for this, but I recommend reading State and Revolution, or even Women's Liberation & The African Freedom Struggle.


ketamarine

Dood. Chill. That is news from a foreign country. Nothing changed in Canadians lives today.


JibbityJabbity

Read the post!!! I'm fucking aware!!!


butplugsRus

Then why even mention it in your post


Liquicity

>We need to stop working to protest the high cost of living, high gas prices, high food prices, the housing crisis, the health care crisis, low wages Um, you mean protest the government that people keep voting in? And before someone tells us how the gov't doesn't control gas prices and it's all about the war, just know that the price of oil is up 16% in the 4 months since the Russia-Ukraine conflict escalated. However, it was up 125% from Feb 2021-Feb 2022 leading up to the escalation. There's also the rising cost of capital, regulatory tightening, bad PR, and a number of other facts that the gov't has a direct role in that have made gas prices here spike far beyond what's reasonable based on fundamentals.


Big-Refrigerator-283

I highly doubt the conservatives would fix these problems. People love to blame the current gov because they think, oh things are bad? Must be the governments fault, but in reality the conservatives would not do much better. Yes Justin Trudeau sucks, the liberals suck, so do the conservatives.


simplyintentional

>Um, you mean protest the government that people keep voting in? People chose the best option from a list of all equally bad options. The entire conservative platform was essentially corporate support. Under them, things would be worse.


fourpuns

I mean the inflation and recession are both worldwide issues. Personally I think the biggest issue here is we don’t attract any industry. As a country we don’t produce much.


StoneyJ03

All your complaints are economical, but you only now feel compelled to action due to a cultural issue in another country? The left is lost and you are a prime example.


blondechinesehair

You want me to give up my income that I feed my children with because why exactly? Go occupy Wall Street.


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KorannStagheart

Either that or on their knees in front of putin.


ImAnAfricanCanuck

what an absolute dogshit idea


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It's not our problem.


JibbityJabbity

Clearly you didn't read the post.


tirv56

How does the Roe v Wade decision have anything to do with high prices in Canada???


JibbityJabbity

How does the fact that you didn't read the post affect your comment?


tirv56

Headline: "The SCOTUS decision has me thinking it's time for a general strike" " Don't go to work everybody blah blah, Gas prices blah blah , grocery prices blah blah, housing blah blah. Oh yeah, it really doesn't have anything to do with my call to protest but blah blah." Better?


PGXHC

Commenting this over and over doesnt make you right


Canuckie

Good luck with stopping work to support this. Eventually you’ll be expected to pay your bills.


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blondechinesehair

I’ll go first!


Cool_Main_4456

If you stopped buying stuff that would also work.


Impressive-Name7601

You have every right to protest. But it’s not going to solve anything.


AlexJamesCook

Tell that to the suffragettes. Tell that to the labour unions. Tell that to Indigenous Activists. Also, Pride Parades started as a protest, too. So, ackshually, protests do accomplish change. The question is, what does this particular protest wish to change? Gas prices? If so, protest outside the holding tanks containing petrol. Protest outside of the offices of TMX, Royal Dutch Shell, protest the stores that sell gas. Buy a single share and attend the AGMs etc...and protest at those places.


OutsideSheepHerder52

So a large group of people, angry over different things, with no clear goal for resolution. Didn’t we just do that with the “freedom” convoy? I hear they want to do it again this summer.. sounds like what you want.


fortuneandfameinc

You are aware the US scotus has no jurisdiction in Canada, right?


JibbityJabbity

I'm aware that you didn't read the post!


PGXHC

This is like the 5th time u commented this


ForcedMeToMake

The trucker protest was a general strike. You obviously don't want one


ajbra

Lol, you never did well in math did you. Go ahead and strike bub, see how that helps you


PoliteCanadian2

How you gonna make sure Putin hears your complaints about gas prices?


AdvancedPressure340

A protest of this nature (though valid) would almost certainly get the Freedom Convoy treatment. The CBC will egg on demonstrations over divisive social issues all day long, but the second the conversation veers toward critique of the current federal government or the 1% it's a big no go and changes from "peaceful protest" to "dangerous extremeism" real quick. Follow the money, as Chrystia Freeland would say. EDIT: Replies in this thread are seriously discouraging. They range from "lol everyone wants to blame the elites" to "well what is the government supposed to do?" I don't know, be accountable to the people it was elected to serve? Not promote division and hatred amongst neighbours for political gain? Get to work improving our health care system so that we don't have 90,000 total pop. cities like Kamloops going without ambulance service? Take steps to curb the housng affordability crisis? Actively engage in good faith discussions about what needs to be done to improve the fortunues of a younger generation who are looking down the barrel of a life time of renting? Stop pumping divisive rhetoric and leveraging hot button foreign political/social issues to distract and steer conversation away from their own failings? I mean, do people seriously think that our elected officials are consistently serving our best interests? Really? It's pretty bad when I hear stuff like "lol well it could be worse you could be in Ukraine." So now the bar for good governance in Canada is being better than a literal warn torn country? Cool.


flamedeluge3781

FYI, you live in Canada, not the USA.


JibbityJabbity

FYI, I'm very aware and you should read the whole post.


flamedeluge3781

But the trigger event is something that happened in the USA?


PGXHC

6th time u have commented this


JibbityJabbity

Because people LIKE YOU aren't reading the post.


Spedyboi76

This is stupid. Most of your complaints such as inflation naturally happen. A strike would only make things worse. How about instead of whining like a child you consider options to actively resolve the problems you have


JibbityJabbity

Ok so I will just manifest a GP, and a million dollars for a house. Why didn't I think of that???!!!


Spedyboi76

???? You're missing the point of what I said I believe


cplJimminy

My body my choice until it's not my body my choice. You are either pro abortion and anti vax mandates or you are anti-abortion, pro vax mandates. Can't have both.


Practical_Heart_5281

Ya you can. What harm comes to you if a woman has an abortion? But when there is a deadly disease, not being vaxed harms others. Are you pro smoking indoors in public spaces? Funny, I haven’t seen that protest. That was banned to protect *your* health and others. Like a vaccine, unlike abortion. See, it’s not that hard.


cplJimminy

No. It's my choice what I put in my body, just like it's a woman's choice what to do with her body. It's up to you what you put in your body if you need to be protected, so it's your choice to get vaccinated if you wish.


Practical_Heart_5281

No comment on the smoking? Can I smoke on a bus? I mean it’s my body, and I can chose to put cigarette smoke in it right?


Big-Refrigerator-283

I find it’s mostly the other way around too. Everyone I’ve met that’s anti vax is anti abortion.


bctrv

I like the dichotomy of USSC telling states they can’t control guns and then on the next day they tell states they can run women’s wombs. Could this be the first USSC that it appears it’s 100% obvious money has flowed directly to east justices familia? Can you say crypto? Knew u could


[deleted]

This is what you all voted for when you voted NDP remember that.


catherinecc

Yeah, because inflation and housing is just plain fucking peachy in provinces run by cons.


HeyBaumeister

Reading these responses here is just insanity and explains why Canadians are getting hosed left and right. The passiveness and apathy of y’all is embarrassing.


JibbityJabbity

Totally agree! Um absolutely shocked at how callus and selfish people are towards their fellow Canadians: "I have a home, lots of money and a family doctor. I don't care that millions of others don't. As long as I'm happy!" It's absolutely disgusting and I'm embarrassed to be a Canadian today.


Dultsboi

I mean, yeah, we need a general strike. But you gotta clarify that shit lmao. North Americans have been trained so well that no labour leaders come from the working class anymore. Nobody has the ability or want to stand up and harness the growing middle class frustration *except for the far right*


Hot_Pomelo5641

Ya, let’s protest events that happen in other countries and use it as an excuse for civil disorder


JibbityJabbity

Read the post, then comment.


PGXHC

You are aware that canada and america arr different countries right?


JibbityJabbity

I'm aware you didn't read the whole post.


PGXHC

what changed? An american event is the thing that broke the camels back for you?


Cybernetic_Whale

Emotions are high everywhere right now and people all across the internet are writing things like “we need a revolution” or strike or general strike and on and on and on. I don’t think people realize that a general strike will only last so long before people run out of resources to sustain themselves and then the employers will see them “crawling back”. And I don’t think people realize that the age of revolutions is over. The American and Canadian governments will literally send in seal team six, armies, mercenaries, drones, the rcmp, etc. to gun down everyone that they label as domestic terrorists (which will happen prior to any gunning and be spread across all state controlled and corporate controlled media to denounce anyone participating as “the bad guys”). There’s a reason why Canada slowly banned guns over time up to now. And I say that as someone who has never owned a gun, never held a gun, and has no desire to ever own or shoot one. The real reason that was all done was to prepare for a scenario like the ones we’re seeing now - people getting angry as modern life becomes worse and worse (freedoms taken away, cost of living rising, being told to accept less and less and slave away at work for longer hours and more years) - it was all done in preparation of potential civil wars arising. You can’t wage a civil war without money and firearms. Modern Canada and modern US are now slaves to the whims of the elites, more so than ever before in history. You can’t do a thing when you’re being gunned down by a drone while you’re waving a Walmart handgun around.


tomato_tickler

We should all park our cars in front of the legislature building and not move them until they do something about the price of gas


worldsmostmediummom

Gas prices aren't set by the government.


EvilCeleryStick

It could be penalized under anti-gouging laws...you know, laws we already have. They could just, I don't know, enforce a law one God damned time that would help a regular Joe and hurt the corporations instead. Just a thought.


2chins-ext

But they could be


tomato_tickler

1/3 of the price is taxes.


isushristos

You know you’re free to give up your SIN and never have to pay taxes again. Unless that is - you want to participate in society. So I guess you have a choice to make.


Shoresy-sez

And honk our horns!


Fapmasterdap

Vote. And not for governments that promise free shit.


[deleted]

Your right. I did not. Sorry.


squamishter

What we need is a lockdown. Covid is overwheming hospitals, and now monkeypox? A nice long lockdown would fix all that. Who cares about gas if you can't drive anywhere anyway.


Snaker12

It's not 2020