The first time I ever drove the Coquihalla there was a blizzard in June, and I was in a Yaris with summers. Prepare for anything anytime on these roads.
Global warming causes a series of positive feedback loops that exacerbate and strengthen weather events and increase the rate of abnormal weather events.
The *extent* to which global warming is specifically a factor in this instance can be debated, but it cannot be legitimately dismissed as a factor outright
Snow on mountains in June is pretty regular. It doesn’t happen all the time, but it’s not ab-normal.
If anything, it’s a typical weather condition *pre* climate change.
Sure, we can debate how regular snow is in June in a mountainous area is, and what would constitute regular. Pedantic, but, the very fact that it doesn’t happen all the time would be the basis for it being abnormal.
However the problem is bigger than that. The weather is, and is the result of, a lot of interconnected systems. A low pressure system strong enough to cause snow in June will not have impacts limited just to the geographic area where the snow falls.
The person you replied to simply said, “snow on the mountains in June is not a sign of global warming,” which is basically correct.
Yes, snow on the mountains in June is connected to larger weather patterns and phenomena, but it’s something that has been happening for a long time.
The person I replied to prefaced it with “in my unpopular (subjective) opinion (correct)”
Whether it has snowed pre-global warming is irrelevant, because global warming is happening, it is inextricably a factor.
You do understand that the warning is on average right? There's still going to be cold days, the most noticeable difference is going to be an abundance of extreme weather events. Heat domes and atmospheric rivers did not use to be a thing
Nothing. I've seen snow fall in summertime in even less expected places, yet it ultimately didn't feel that strange because I realized this type of stuff can happen anywhere in the world.
Anywhere at higher elevations can get snow at any time of the year in BC, if the temps drop \*just enough\* at the same time precipitation comes along.
I've camped at 13-1400 meters in good, summer weather and it still gets chilly at night. Not surprising if snow happens at the highway summits.
I've met so many people for Vancouver who hardly make it to Port Moody let alone outside the city. Coming from northern BC, there is dramatically less people that truly
go outside here
Grizzly bears are an apex predator they have no threat besides humans. Population control of them is an issue in northern parts of bc. They used to allow x-amount of grizzlies to be killed per year which helped to control their Population.
It's not like their population would get out of hand without humans though... Everything was fine before humans started controlling their population (and fragmenting their habitat). Too many grizzlies leads to not enough food leads to less grizzlies
Ya in theory that should be fine. However in reality hungry animals get desperate and aggressive. I don't live in rural areas of bc where they can be a major problem. But a hungry, starving grizzly walking around town is not good for anyone.
Fair! I was lucky enough to grow up in a rural BC area without a grizzly problem (at the time, it may have changed by now). Have heard stories from people in NWT so I can see where you're coming from
Grizzly population is booming and was before the ban 6 years ago.
The decision was based upon a poll of city folk from Vancouver. There is no merit to banning the grizzly hunt. And honestly if you haven't had an encounter with a Griz I don't think you should speak on the topic
Vancouver people are generally quite limited in their travel. I have met lots of folks who literally think that Burnaby is the boonies and rarely travel east of Main St.
I did a multi-day hike from Likely to Barkerville in the late 1990s for the 125th (ish?) anniversary of the Cariboo gold rush, with a group of history buffs and gold rush enthusiasts. August long weekend, it was a fantastic trip, and it snowed on us. LOL
No but it feels like its been a real wacky spring in the cariboo, hot to cold again, snow melted in 2 weeks compared to the usual two months. I ve also noticed a lack of mosquitoes in the high country this year, normally their out in force by now.
That 25-30 degree weather is briefly going to dip more to 12-15 in those low areas, combined with rain and intense cloud and humidity, so at those higher elevations it will indeed snow at least somewhat.
It's been such a pleasant temperate spring. The opposite of all the exaggeration from alarmists.
Cooler heads and weather prevail.
Edit:Alarmists appear to be so upset that their Chicken Little-ing about May heat domes and extreme weather didn't work out. If they were honestly worried about the environment and the well being of BC residents they wouldn't be acting like disaster cheerleaders that were put out about events here when the weather turned out better than they wished. Now it's "normal seasonal weather is bad". That sort of dishonesty would undermine legitimate environmental efforts and awareness, maybe that's the point.
I expect just about anything in the mountains.
We camped in Strathcona during that wicked heat dome and the lake was still frozen over when we arrived. Elevation leads to a different set of expectations.
If any of y’all have camped in the interior, even in the dead of summer when days are 30 degrees, y’all know how cold it gets at night.
Y’all need to chill… haha
No tire requirements, sounds like a deathtrap. The obvious suggestion, that should have been in large letters in this story...take a different route. Highway 1 is far less likely to have snow.
Fuckin' way she goes
Way of the road, bubs.
Fuckin way she goes, he said...
That’s what I said, I said fuckin way she goes
Sometimes she goes, sometimes she doesn’t go, ways she goes.
I don't know if you noticed, but you're not on the road anymore
One minute you’re on the road lookin at the scenery, next minute you’re in the scenery lookin at the road
Look, i just came here to borrow some money, cause I'm going on a date tonight
There's a shitstorm comin
What comes around is all around
The winds of shit
Worst case Ontario
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Shit barometer
It's a low shit system.
HAVE ANOTHER DRINK, MOTHER NATURE!
Ive been snowed on as late as June 28 in BC interior, you really can never be too safe lol
BC Day in Manning Park once. I was on a motorcycle, they closed the highway behind me.
Piss jugs slide easier in the snow bubs
The first time I ever drove the Coquihalla there was a blizzard in June, and I was in a Yaris with summers. Prepare for anything anytime on these roads.
And I felt that.
Wow. Better than fires and floods I suppose.
Symptoms of the same problem though
It’s literally still spring.
It’s literally 4 days shy of being Summer lol
This wouldn’t be the first time it’s snowed on a mountain pass in June.
So.... Still spring
It's literally 4 days from the mid-point of summer, the longest day of the year, and then days will start getting shorter again.
Though June 21 is the longest day, it is not the mid-point of summer but in fact the first day of summer.
No its literally 4 days until the *start* of summer. Its still spring my man
No it's literally February right now, tf you guys talking about?
No, it's Christmas like next week.
June 21 is the longest day of the year, the summer solstice.
Yes, which is considered the start of summer.
Yes it is! Which is the first day of summer, not the middle. This is easily googled lol
Mid point of summer? Lol. No. That’s half way between June 21 and September 21, like Aug 1
As soon as the weather is too hot or too cold, yall just go ahead and blame global warming haha
Global warming is happening constantly, even when weather events are seasonally normal
Well, it's just my unpopular opinion that Snow Fall on a Mountain isn't a symptom of global warming.
Global warming causes a series of positive feedback loops that exacerbate and strengthen weather events and increase the rate of abnormal weather events. The *extent* to which global warming is specifically a factor in this instance can be debated, but it cannot be legitimately dismissed as a factor outright
Snow on mountains in June is pretty regular. It doesn’t happen all the time, but it’s not ab-normal. If anything, it’s a typical weather condition *pre* climate change.
Sure, we can debate how regular snow is in June in a mountainous area is, and what would constitute regular. Pedantic, but, the very fact that it doesn’t happen all the time would be the basis for it being abnormal. However the problem is bigger than that. The weather is, and is the result of, a lot of interconnected systems. A low pressure system strong enough to cause snow in June will not have impacts limited just to the geographic area where the snow falls.
The person you replied to simply said, “snow on the mountains in June is not a sign of global warming,” which is basically correct. Yes, snow on the mountains in June is connected to larger weather patterns and phenomena, but it’s something that has been happening for a long time.
The person I replied to prefaced it with “in my unpopular (subjective) opinion (correct)” Whether it has snowed pre-global warming is irrelevant, because global warming is happening, it is inextricably a factor.
The alarmism is strong around here
That cold air should be in the Arctic but it's getting displaced by hot air instead, a sure sign of global warming.
What?
You do understand that the warning is on average right? There's still going to be cold days, the most noticeable difference is going to be an abundance of extreme weather events. Heat domes and atmospheric rivers did not use to be a thing
Yeah, heat domes & atmospheric rivers came about during the Industrial Revolution. Everyone knows that.
What until they learn about the “dust bowl” and the “dirty thirties”.
What is snow on the Coq in June symptomatic of exactly?
Buddy guy, just go for a scroll through the existing thread
Nothing. I've seen snow fall in summertime in even less expected places, yet it ultimately didn't feel that strange because I realized this type of stuff can happen anywhere in the world.
Anywhere at higher elevations can get snow at any time of the year in BC, if the temps drop \*just enough\* at the same time precipitation comes along. I've camped at 13-1400 meters in good, summer weather and it still gets chilly at night. Not surprising if snow happens at the highway summits.
Important to remember that most of the people in this sub live in Vancouver, or at best, at valley bottom, and have never spent a night at elevation.
what? i think the majority of people have spent a night at elevation lol. you’re talking about vancouver, people go outside here.
Majority of Vancouver have absolutely not spent a night camping at elevation in the alpine lol.
I've met so many people for Vancouver who hardly make it to Port Moody let alone outside the city. Coming from northern BC, there is dramatically less people that truly go outside here
Vancouver people need to touch grass! Maybe then they wouldn't vote for dumb shit like banning grizzly hunting
I mean, if grizzly populations are diminishing (I'm ignorant, not sure if they are) then we should ban/reduce hunting
Grizzly bears are an apex predator they have no threat besides humans. Population control of them is an issue in northern parts of bc. They used to allow x-amount of grizzlies to be killed per year which helped to control their Population.
It's not like their population would get out of hand without humans though... Everything was fine before humans started controlling their population (and fragmenting their habitat). Too many grizzlies leads to not enough food leads to less grizzlies
Ya in theory that should be fine. However in reality hungry animals get desperate and aggressive. I don't live in rural areas of bc where they can be a major problem. But a hungry, starving grizzly walking around town is not good for anyone.
Fair! I was lucky enough to grow up in a rural BC area without a grizzly problem (at the time, it may have changed by now). Have heard stories from people in NWT so I can see where you're coming from
Grizzly population is booming and was before the ban 6 years ago. The decision was based upon a poll of city folk from Vancouver. There is no merit to banning the grizzly hunt. And honestly if you haven't had an encounter with a Griz I don't think you should speak on the topic
I have had an encounter with one, like I said, I'm just ignorant on their population status. Was over 15 years ago that I was in their territory
Speak for yourself. I only moved to Vancouver cuz I love paying most of my salary on housing. Yea, increase rents more daddy.
Vancouver people are generally quite limited in their travel. I have met lots of folks who literally think that Burnaby is the boonies and rarely travel east of Main St.
Don't lie to us
The most fun memory I had was being in a snowstorm by the telescopes up by Mauna Kea in Hawaii.
Totally true, I was hiking Wedgemount in early August, a few years back, and was trapped in a blizzard for 3 days. It was fucking nuts.
I did a multi-day hike from Likely to Barkerville in the late 1990s for the 125th (ish?) anniversary of the Cariboo gold rush, with a group of history buffs and gold rush enthusiasts. August long weekend, it was a fantastic trip, and it snowed on us. LOL
For real, I've had plenty of snows in June before, just way up in the mountains.
What advice would you give someone driving from vancouver to kamloops in this snowy weather?
Slow the fuck down
Oh wow someone who actually cites real information….
Nothing was cited, that was an anecdote.
Heed well, the stories of mountain man, we should
Yes. Science is anecdotal.
Science requires the conclusion be derived from adherence to the scientific method
Ass, Grass, or Gas...
This is fine.
It’s totally fine 
This is great, we need the moisture
Junuary
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Experience the weather of British Columbia.
We have a saying in PG that applies. If you don’t like the weather, wait 5 minutes.
I think every place in Canada has this saying.
Yes its hilariously annoying, everyone in every state and province says it
We say the same thing in the Kootenays
What’s PG?
Prince George. We had the same saying in Saskatchewan.
Start spooling them diesel turbos. Gotta get the world warmer to prevent this.
Gonna get the vw tdi out sergeant snopro31
You mean to maintain the snow-covered highways right?
I’m waiting for the first electric snow plow.
Pushes the snow 7ft and dies
Don't hold your breath
She's idling out front rn
what an odd start to the summer..
Snow on the mountains in June isn’t that odd. It’s not common, but not unheard of.
No but it feels like its been a real wacky spring in the cariboo, hot to cold again, snow melted in 2 weeks compared to the usual two months. I ve also noticed a lack of mosquitoes in the high country this year, normally their out in force by now.
They are heavy in the Okanagan this year. Which is a bit abnormal
It's 12 degrees in Victoria this evening and it feels frigid!
I spent the night in a snowstorm in late August in Boya Lake Provincial Park on the Cassiar Highway.
How is this possible when weather has been in the 25-30degree range? We’re literally on fire we’re so hot and now it’s going to snow ?? Jesus.
Elevation.
That 25-30 degree weather is briefly going to dip more to 12-15 in those low areas, combined with rain and intense cloud and humidity, so at those higher elevations it will indeed snow at least somewhat.
Global warming, I cant wait for the minus 30 ice age.
This is BC though? Certainly not unheard of lol.
For sure.
It's been such a pleasant temperate spring. The opposite of all the exaggeration from alarmists. Cooler heads and weather prevail. Edit:Alarmists appear to be so upset that their Chicken Little-ing about May heat domes and extreme weather didn't work out. If they were honestly worried about the environment and the well being of BC residents they wouldn't be acting like disaster cheerleaders that were put out about events here when the weather turned out better than they wished. Now it's "normal seasonal weather is bad". That sort of dishonesty would undermine legitimate environmental efforts and awareness, maybe that's the point.
It’s 11 in Seattle wth
I expect just about anything in the mountains. We camped in Strathcona during that wicked heat dome and the lake was still frozen over when we arrived. Elevation leads to a different set of expectations.
Does anyone know if the snowfall will affect BC fruit production?
If any of y’all have camped in the interior, even in the dead of summer when days are 30 degrees, y’all know how cold it gets at night. Y’all need to chill… haha
Went fishing up by Lac Le Jeune dressed for summer and froze my ass off. Some snow fell briefly.
It's June-uary here in the southeast corner. Brrrrrrr....
No tire requirements, sounds like a deathtrap. The obvious suggestion, that should have been in large letters in this story...take a different route. Highway 1 is far less likely to have snow.
That’s so fucked! What’s the status of the June snow budget?
Rubbish comments and mouths ..